Zone1 Ukrainian-born model winning Miss Japan re-ignites identity debate

[el midgetron]

"There have been racial barriers, and it has been challenging to be accepted as Japanese."

That's what a tearful Carolina Shiino said in impeccable Japanese after she was crowned Miss Japan on Monday.

The 26-year-old model, who was born in Ukraine, moved to Japan at the age of five and was raised in Nagoya.

She is the first naturalised Japanese citizen to win the pageant, but her victory has re-ignited a debate on what it means to be Japanese.

While some recognised her victory as a "sign of the times", others have said she does not look like what a "Miss Japan" should.

Ukrainian-born model winning Miss Japan re-ignites identity debate

Is a 100% Ukrainian born and ethnic woman, Japanese enough to be crowned “Miss Japan”? No, she is not.

There is a valid reason why the commie dickheads who run China ban certain social and political ideas. They know, just like the dickheads running the show in the US, that multiculturalism is bad for society. A society needs shared values and traditions for cohesion and strength. It doesn’t matter what mix of skin color demographics you have in that society. That society will be better off if they share a clear identity.

On one hand we have the social justice warriors telling us that first generation immigrants are forever handicapped within society. The same people then turn around and tell us that a foreign born immigrant is every bit the equal of a native citizen.

 

[gtopa1]

"There have been racial barriers, and it has been challenging to be accepted as Japanese."

That's what a tearful Carolina Shiino said in impeccable Japanese after she was crowned Miss Japan on Monday.

The 26-year-old model, who was born in Ukraine, moved to Japan at the age of five and was raised in Nagoya.

She is the first naturalised Japanese citizen to win the pageant, but her victory has re-ignited a debate on what it means to be Japanese.

While some recognised her victory as a "sign of the times", others have said she does not look like what a "Miss Japan" should.

Ukrainian-born model winning Miss Japan re-ignites identity debate

Is a 100% Ukrainian born and ethnic woman, Japanese enough to be crowned “Miss Japan”? No, she is not.

There is a valid reason why the commie dickheads who run China ban certain social and political ideas. They know, just like the dickheads running the show in the US, that multiculturalism is bad for society. A society needs shared values and traditions for cohesion and strength. It doesn’t matter what mix of skin color demographics you have in that society. That society will be better off if they share a clear identity.

On one hand we have the social justice warriors telling us that first generation immigrants are forever handicapped within society. The same people then turn around and tell us that a foreign born immigrant is every bit the equal of a native citizen.

If she is a Naturalised Japanese then she's Japanese. The rest is just whether or not they're good lookers.

Greg

 

[Alan Stallion]

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Of course she isn't Japanese. She is a Japanese citizen, but not Japanese. To say anything else is insanity.

 

[DudleySmith]

She learned the language and acquired citizenship, and certainly doesn't run around sniveling about how evil her country is n stuff, so she deserves the win, which is a indeed a tough thing to do among Asians, who are mostly racists.

 

[Magnus]

"There have been racial barriers, and it has been challenging to be accepted as Japanese."

That's what a tearful Carolina Shiino said in impeccable Japanese after she was crowned Miss Japan on Monday.

The 26-year-old model, who was born in Ukraine, moved to Japan at the age of five and was raised in Nagoya.

She is the first naturalised Japanese citizen to win the pageant, but her victory has re-ignited a debate on what it means to be Japanese.

While some recognised her victory as a "sign of the times", others have said she does not look like what a "Miss Japan" should.

Ukrainian-born model winning Miss Japan re-ignites identity debate

Is a 100% Ukrainian born and ethnic woman, Japanese enough to be crowned “Miss Japan”? No, she is not.

There is a valid reason why the commie dickheads who run China ban certain social and political ideas. They know, just like the dickheads running the show in the US, that multiculturalism is bad for society. A society needs shared values and traditions for cohesion and strength. It doesn’t matter what mix of skin color demographics you have in that society. That society will be better off if they share a clear identity.

On one hand we have the social justice warriors telling us that first generation immigrants are forever handicapped within society. The same people then turn around and tell us that a foreign born immigrant is every bit the equal of a native citizen.

LOL What the fuck do you care? Ukrainian or Japanese - she is way out of your reach.

 

[el midgetron]

There are pics at the link in the OP

 

[fncceo]

LOL What the fuck do you care? Ukrainian or Japanese - she is way out of your reach.

chloroform and zip ties to the rescue.

 

[Calypso Jones]

That's globalism for ya.

 

[Calypso Jones]

Who are the bigger complainers? The japanese or DEI/DIE twitter users?

 

[luiza]

Is a 100% Ukrainian born and ethnic woman, Japanese enough to be crowned “Miss Japan”? No, she is not.

I personally can understand unabashed Racists giving us their views, even when they have no idea how Racist they appear .
OP's type of views are often heard from the elderly, either because many of them are simply out of touch, or, they are from people who are hard wired for Cognitive Rigidity and where it has truly cemented.
As long as they do not take themselves too seriously , I believe we should try to tolerate them . They just do not see that they are becoming quaint relics from a narrow past .
imho

 

[Vastator]

Japan could have done much better...

 

[Zebra]

She learned the language and acquired citizenship, and certainly doesn't run around sniveling about how evil her country is n stuff, so she deserves the win, which is a indeed a tough thing to do among Asians, who are mostly racists.

she deserves to win

 

[el midgetron]

I personally can understand unabashed Racists giving us their views, even when they have no idea how Racist they appear .
OP's type of views are often heard from the elderly, either because many of them are simply out of touch, or, they are from people who are hard wired for Cognitive Rigidity and where it has truly cemented.
As long as they do not take themselves too seriously , I believe we should try to tolerate them . They just do not see that they are becoming quaint relics from a narrow past .
imho

That’s the funny thing about culture, sometimes the DEI crowd ties it to race and other times they reject the connection. If you disagree with them in either instance, they stomp their feet like a child and call you a racist.

So, since we can agree that race and culture are both social constructs, and since someone like yourself considers it to be “racism” to reject a “white” person being “Japanese”, then can we also assume that a “white” person can be “black”?

A while back there was the case of Rachel Dolezal, a white woman living her life as a black person. The media and the DEI crowd ripped her up for “not being black”. Was the media being “racist” against Dolezal for rejecting her blackness?

 

[luiza]

That’s the funny thing about culture, sometimes the DEI crowd ties it to race and other times they reject the connection. If you disagree with them in either instance, they stomp their feet like a child and call you a racist.

If it helps ease your predicamernt , let's pretend to criticize in terms of discrimination instead of Racism . The latter being one expression of the former .

My opinion then remains the same .

 

[Calypso Jones]

That’s the funny thing about culture, sometimes the DEI crowd ties it to race and other times they reject the connection. If you disagree with them in either instance, they stomp their feet like a child and call you a racist.

So, since we can agree that race and culture are both social constructs, and since someone like yourself considers it to be “racism” to reject a “white” person being “Japanese”, then can we also assume that a “white” person can be “black”?

A while back there was the case of Rachel Dolezal, a white woman living her life as a black person. The media and the DEI crowd ripped her up for “not being black”. Was the media being “racist” against Dolezal for rejecting her blackness?

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aren't twitter users mostly younger types. Then aren't you rather bashing the 'elderly'?

 

[el midgetron]

If it helps ease your predicamernt , let's pretend to criticize in terms of discrimination instead of Racism . The latter being one expression of the former .

My opinion then remains the same .

Your opinion? It’s the entire shtick of the woke dullards. Everything is racist according to your crowd. It’s nothing more than a substitute for anything intelligent to say.

Buck up and try your best. If a white person can be Japanese, then can a white person be black?

 

[el midgetron]

 

[JoeB131]

Meh, she doesn't look that great to me.

 

[JoeB131]

A while back there was the case of Rachel Dolezal, a white woman living her life as a black person. The media and the DEI crowd ripped her up for “not being black”. Was the media being “racist” against Dolezal for rejecting her blackness?

Actually, Dolezal was a sad case. Her parents adopted black kids and treated their adopted kids better than their natural born kid. So she placed a value on being "black". That she took her self-delusion as far as she did was sad.