UH OH Spaghetti Oh! Hansen says the temps have been flat!

[daveman]

Richard Muller, Global Warming Skeptic, Now Agrees Climate Change Is Real

WASHINGTON — A prominent physicist and skeptic of global warming spent two years trying to find out if mainstream climate scientists were wrong. In the end, he determined they were right: Temperatures really are rising rapidly.

The study of the world's surface temperatures by Richard Muller was partially bankrolled by a foundation connected to global warming deniers. He pursued long-held skeptic theories in analyzing the data. He was spurred to action because of "Climategate," a British scandal involving hacked emails of scientists.

Yet he found that the land is 1.6 degrees warmer than in the 1950s. Those numbers from Muller, who works at the University of California, Berkeley and Lawrence Berkeley National Lab, match those by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration and NASA.

He said he went even further back, studying readings from Benjamin Franklin and Thomas Jefferson. His ultimate finding of a warming world, to be presented at a conference Monday, is no different from what mainstream climate scientists have been saying for decades.

Richard Muller, Global Warming Skeptic, Now Agrees Climate Change Is Real

Muller was never a skeptic, you moron.

 

[RollingThunder]

NASA Admits that 1934, Not 1998, was the Warmest Year on Record - Yahoo! Voices - voices.yahoo.com

In one more devastating blow against the global warming or "climate Apocalypse" supporters such as former Vice President Al Gore, NASA stated today that it was wrong when it release a report that 1998 was the warmest year ever recorded in modern history.
According to H. Sterling Burnett, a senior fellow at the National Center for Policy Analysis (NCPA), NASA scientist and famous man-made global warming proponent James Hansen's well-known claims that 1998 was measured as the warmest year on record in the U.S. were the result of a serious mathematical error. NASA has now corrected that error, and 1934 is now known as the warmest year on record, with 1921 the third warmest year instead of 2006 as was also previously claimed.

5 1/2 years ago GISS said 1934 was the warmest ever. warmer than 1998. now through the wonders of 'adjustments' it is 2012.

I call bullsh*t

Call BS on yourself for posting this retarded drivel and on the lying scumbag who authored that quote you posted. Idiots, both of you. NASA was not "wrong when it release a report that 1998 was the warmest year ever recorded in modern history". At the time they reported that, 1998 was the hottest year on record for the whole planet (now it's 2010 and 2005 in a tie). It was only in the US that 1936 (by a very tiny margin) was the hottest year on record. A fact that the author of that quote was trying to use deceptively. Now, average temperatures in the US in 2012 have exceeded the records set in 1936. No mystery "adjustments", you flaming nitwit, it just got hotter this last year over the lower 48 states than it ever has been before. We had a winter heat wave before the severe summer heat wave. Everybody experienced this reality - stop trying to deny it, you just make yourself look even more like an idiot.

Unrelenting heat wave bakes half the U.S.; 30 dead
USAToday
7/7/2012
(excerpts)
PHILADELPHIA (AP) – Americans dipped into the water, went to the movies and rode the subway just to be in air conditioning Saturday for relief from unrelenting heat that has killed at least 30 people across half the country. The heat sent temperatures soaring over 100 degrees Fahrenheit in several cities, including a record 105 F in Washington, St. Louis (106 F), and Indianapolis (104 F), buckled highways and derailed a Washington-area train even as another round of summer storms threatened. The heat sent temperatures soaring in more than 20 states to 105 F in Louisville, Kentucky, 101 F in Philadelphia, and 95 F in New York; besides Washington, a record of 104 F was set in Sioux Falls, South Dakota, and Baltimore set a record at 102 F. At least 30 deaths were blamed on the heat, including nine in Maryland and 10 in Chicago, mostly among the elderly. Three elderly people found dead in their houses in Ohio had heart disease, but died of high temperatures in homes lacking power because of recent outages, officials said. Heat was also cited as a factor in three deaths in Wisconsin, two in Tennessee and three in Pennsylvania. Officials said the heat caused highways to buckle in Illinois and Wisconsin. In Maryland, investigators said heat likely caused rails to kink and led a green line train to partially derail in Prince George's County, Maryland, on Friday afternoon. No one was injured, and 55 passengers were safely evacuated. "This is becoming a black swan of heat waves, in the sense that it's such a long heat wave, such a severe heat wave and encompassing such a large area," said Chris Vaccaro, spokesman for the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.

 

[georgephillip]

Yes, the grand old man has finally been forced to admit that the last ten years have been flat, global tempwise, further he also admits that 2012 was the NINTH warmest on record.

Must suck to be a braindead propagandist like oltrakrtrollingblunderfraud and have the leader of the cult come out and say it's all been a lie.

But, being the nice little useful idiots they are, they'll figure out a way to rationalise it all away.



Summary. Global surface temperature in 2012 was +0.56°C (1°F) warmer than the 1951-1980 base period average, despite much of the year being affected by a strong La Nina. Global temperature thus continues at a high level that is sufficient to cause a substantial increase in the frequency of extreme warm anomalies. The 5-year mean global temperature has been flat for a decade, which we interpret as a combination of natural variability and a slowdown in the growth rate of the net climate forcing.
An update through 2012 of our global analysis1 (Fig. 1) reveals 2012 as having practically the same temperature as 2011, significantly lower than the maximum reached in 2010. These short-term global fluctuations are associated principally with natural oscillations of tropical Pacific sea surface temperatures summarized in the Nino index in the lower part of the figure. 2012 is nominally the 9th warmest year, but it is indistinguishable in rank with several other years, as shown by the error estimate.


So much for the claims of 2012 being the HOTTEST YEAR EVAH! Fools.




http://www.columbia.edu/~jeh1/mailings/2013/20130115_Temperature2012.pdf

"Note that the 10 warmest years in the record all occurred since 1998."

What's your rationalization for this claim?

How would you define "climate forcing?"

http://www.columbia.edu/~jeh1/mailings/2013/20130115_Temperature2012.pdf

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

Richard Muller, Global Warming Skeptic, Now Agrees Climate Change Is Real

WASHINGTON — A prominent physicist and skeptic of global warming spent two years trying to find out if mainstream climate scientists were wrong. In the end, he determined they were right: Temperatures really are rising rapidly.

The study of the world's surface temperatures by Richard Muller was partially bankrolled by a foundation connected to global warming deniers. He pursued long-held skeptic theories in analyzing the data. He was spurred to action because of "Climategate," a British scandal involving hacked emails of scientists.

Yet he found that the land is 1.6 degrees warmer than in the 1950s. Those numbers from Muller, who works at the University of California, Berkeley and Lawrence Berkeley National Lab, match those by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration and NASA.

He said he went even further back, studying readings from Benjamin Franklin and Thomas Jefferson. His ultimate finding of a warming world, to be presented at a conference Monday, is no different from what mainstream climate scientists have been saying for decades.

Richard Muller, Global Warming Skeptic, Now Agrees Climate Change Is Real

Muller was never a skeptic, you moron.

REALLY? says who, you?

 

[georgephillip]

Richard Muller, Global Warming Skeptic, Now Agrees Climate Change Is Real

WASHINGTON — A prominent physicist and skeptic of global warming spent two years trying to find out if mainstream climate scientists were wrong. In the end, he determined they were right: Temperatures really are rising rapidly.

The study of the world's surface temperatures by Richard Muller was partially bankrolled by a foundation connected to global warming deniers. He pursued long-held skeptic theories in analyzing the data. He was spurred to action because of "Climategate," a British scandal involving hacked emails of scientists.

Yet he found that the land is 1.6 degrees warmer than in the 1950s. Those numbers from Muller, who works at the University of California, Berkeley and Lawrence Berkeley National Lab, match those by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration and NASA.

He said he went even further back, studying readings from Benjamin Franklin and Thomas Jefferson. His ultimate finding of a warming world, to be presented at a conference Monday, is no different from what mainstream climate scientists have been saying for decades.

Richard Muller, Global Warming Skeptic, Now Agrees Climate Change Is Real

Muller was never a skeptic, you moron.

"Muller's research team carefully examined two chief criticisms by skeptics. One is that weather stations are unreliable; the other is that cities, which create heat islands, were skewing the temperature analysis.

"'The skeptics raised valid points and everybody should have been a skeptic two years ago,' Muller said in a telephone interview. 'And now we have confidence that the temperature rise that had previously been reported had been done without bias.'

"Muller said that he came into the study 'with a proper skepticism,' something scientists 'should always have. I was somewhat bothered by the fact that there was not enough skepticism' before"

Do you lack sufficient skepticism of Koch brothers' motives?

Richard Muller, Global Warming Skeptic, Now Agrees Climate Change Is Real

 

[IanC]

Richard Muller, Global Warming Skeptic, Now Agrees Climate Change Is Real

Muller was never a skeptic, you moron.

"Muller's research team carefully examined two chief criticisms by skeptics. One is that weather stations are unreliable; the other is that cities, which create heat islands, were skewing the temperature analysis.

"'The skeptics raised valid points and everybody should have been a skeptic two years ago,' Muller said in a telephone interview. 'And now we have confidence that the temperature rise that had previously been reported had been done without bias.'

"Muller said that he came into the study 'with a proper skepticism,' something scientists 'should always have. I was somewhat bothered by the fact that there was not enough skepticism' before"

Do you lack sufficient skepticism of Koch brothers' motives?

Richard Muller, Global Warming Skeptic, Now Agrees Climate Change Is Real

daveman is correct. Muller was never a global warming skeptic.

he did heavily criticize Mann's graph. then he organized a redo of global temps but left the stats to someone else. he also borrowed info from a station quality paper but broke confidence to grandstand to a senate committee. his group's BEST papers have been in peer review for a very, very long time.

if you want to find his views on global warming and the IPCC just watch his lectures on youtube

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

Muller was never a skeptic, you moron.

"Muller's research team carefully examined two chief criticisms by skeptics. One is that weather stations are unreliable; the other is that cities, which create heat islands, were skewing the temperature analysis.

"'The skeptics raised valid points and everybody should have been a skeptic two years ago,' Muller said in a telephone interview. 'And now we have confidence that the temperature rise that had previously been reported had been done without bias.'

"Muller said that he came into the study 'with a proper skepticism,' something scientists 'should always have. I was somewhat bothered by the fact that there was not enough skepticism' before"

Do you lack sufficient skepticism of Koch brothers' motives?

Richard Muller, Global Warming Skeptic, Now Agrees Climate Change Is Real

daveman is correct. Muller was never a global warming skeptic.

he did heavily criticize Mann's graph. then he organized a redo of global temps but left the stats to someone else. he also borrowed info from a station quality paper but broke confidence to grandstand to a senate committee. his group's BEST papers have been in peer review for a very, very long time.

if you want to find his views on global warming and the IPCC just watch his lectures on youtube

In his own words without your filter:

CALL me a converted skeptic. Three years ago I identified problems in previous climate studies that, in my mind, threw doubt on the very existence of global warming. Last year, following an intensive research effort involving a dozen scientists, I concluded that global warming was real and that the prior estimates of the rate of warming were correct. I’m now going a step further: Humans are almost entirely the cause.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/30/o...imate-change-skeptic.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

 

[westwall]

Richard Muller, Global Warming Skeptic, Now Agrees Climate Change Is Real

WASHINGTON — A prominent physicist and skeptic of global warming spent two years trying to find out if mainstream climate scientists were wrong. In the end, he determined they were right: Temperatures really are rising rapidly.

The study of the world's surface temperatures by Richard Muller was partially bankrolled by a foundation connected to global warming deniers. He pursued long-held skeptic theories in analyzing the data. He was spurred to action because of "Climategate," a British scandal involving hacked emails of scientists.

Yet he found that the land is 1.6 degrees warmer than in the 1950s. Those numbers from Muller, who works at the University of California, Berkeley and Lawrence Berkeley National Lab, match those by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration and NASA.

He said he went even further back, studying readings from Benjamin Franklin and Thomas Jefferson. His ultimate finding of a warming world, to be presented at a conference Monday, is no different from what mainstream climate scientists have been saying for decades.

Richard Muller, Global Warming Skeptic, Now Agrees Climate Change Is Real

Muller has never been a sceptic you silly person. He has a sustainability company for shits sack. Really, you should at least make an effort to get accurate info about your subjects.

 

[westwall]

Frankly, we should all be making burnt offerings to the Climate Change Gods in order to keep up the Global Warming. Considering how much of the earth's history has been spent as a giant snowball in space, Global Warming has been Very Very Good to Human Beings.

thinning the herd helps too

Yes, you libs and oh so caring AGW cultists, allways decend to the Hitlerian ideal of mass murder.

 

[westwall]

Because humans have added CO2 to the atmosphere so fast that it will take time for the temperatures to catch up. The process is not instantaneous. If current CO2 levels "were sustained at those levels" for a century or two, world average temperatures would be that high and sea levels would be vastly increased.

Funny, that has never been stated by your high priests, ever...in fact they have proclaimed just the opposite...

LOLOLOLOLOL.....I see you've totally lost the thread again, walleyed.....are you still drunk???.....let me refresh your memory, you poor befuddled retard.....I posted an article referencing a scientific study showing that when CO2 levels were this high in the past, which hasn't happened in the last 15 million years, planetary temperatures were 5 to 10 degrees warmer and sea levels were 75 to 125 feet higher than today. The Ass-ter asked why temperatures aren't that hot now and I gave the answer you are so very idiotically responding to. Just because it would take a while for temperatures to catch up and equilibrate with the 'forcing' of the extra CO2 mankind has put into the air, assuming current CO2 levels were "sustained" at current levels (about 400ppm) for a long period of time, does not mean that, in the real world with rapidly rising CO2 levels that may hit 600ppm or even 900ppm, we aren't facing an immediate crisis that needs an immediate response or that there aren't some pretty severe consequences starting to happen now or that there aren't tipping points/feedback loops in wait that could potentially cause uncontrollable run-away global warming, possibly, for example, through the release of the methane under the permafrost or from the undersea methane clathrates.

World has only ten years to control global warming, warns Met Office

World has only ten years to control global warming, warns Met Office - Telegraph

Dr. Hansen has said in the past that a global tipping point will be reached by 2016 if levels of greenhouse gases like methane and carbon dioxide are not reduced.

Earth's Climate Approaches Dangerous Tipping Point

Within as little as 10 years, the world will be faced with a choice: arable farming either continues to feed the world's animals or it continues to feed the world's people. It cannot do both.

George Monbiot: Why vegans were right all along | Global development | The Guardian

All quite true, unfortunately. And not at all contradicted by what I said, as you so idiotically imagine.

You are a broken record pushing your little drug induced cult.

LOLOLOLOL.....yes, I'm sure all of those tens of thousands of scientists all around the world are "on drugs".....LOLOLOL......

Meanwhile, you are a deluded and very ignorant little cretin pushing the myths, misinformation and lies of your stupidity induced, fossil fuel industry sponsored cult of rightwingnut reality denial.

Yeah sure silly person, you see those are just the most recent "tipping points", there have been many others extending far back into the dark ages of AGW "theory". Hell there was recently a missive warning us that we had only hours to act!

Only a truely delusional idiot like you and your fellow travellers can think AGW "theory" has legs anymore. Even the high priest of the movement (bowel movement perhaps?) Hansen is backing off of the hysteria because it ain't working any more fool.

 

[westwall]

Yes, the grand old man has finally been forced to admit that the last ten years have been flat, global tempwise, further he also admits that 2012 was the NINTH warmest on record.

Must suck to be a braindead propagandist like oltrakrtrollingblunderfraud and have the leader of the cult come out and say it's all been a lie.

But, being the nice little useful idiots they are, they'll figure out a way to rationalise it all away.



Summary. Global surface temperature in 2012 was +0.56°C (1°F) warmer than the 1951-1980 base period average, despite much of the year being affected by a strong La Nina. Global temperature thus continues at a high level that is sufficient to cause a substantial increase in the frequency of extreme warm anomalies. The 5-year mean global temperature has been flat for a decade, which we interpret as a combination of natural variability and a slowdown in the growth rate of the net climate forcing.
An update through 2012 of our global analysis1 (Fig. 1) reveals 2012 as having practically the same temperature as 2011, significantly lower than the maximum reached in 2010. These short-term global fluctuations are associated principally with natural oscillations of tropical Pacific sea surface temperatures summarized in the Nino index in the lower part of the figure. 2012 is nominally the 9th warmest year, but it is indistinguishable in rank with several other years, as shown by the error estimate.


So much for the claims of 2012 being the HOTTEST YEAR EVAH! Fools.




http://www.columbia.edu/~jeh1/mailings/2013/20130115_Temperature2012.pdf

"Note that the 10 warmest years in the record all occurred since 1998."

What's your rationalization for this claim?

How would you define "climate forcing?"

http://www.columbia.edu/~jeh1/mailings/2013/20130115_Temperature2012.pdf

Well georgie old boy, when you only use weather stations that are situated at airports and parking lots you can get a nice high temp reading compared to the correctly sited weather stations in the rural areas. I would think even a brain dead socialist like you could figure that one out....but then I remembered...you're a fucking socialist!

The only humans stupider than AGW cultists are socialists! And lo and behold a lot of the AGW cultists ARE socialists (go figure) so you have fundamentally retarded people who think they can get a collectivist government to work, in the face of over a century of failure on multiple continents, and the deaths of hundreds of millions in the quest of that ridiculous fantasy.

And here we have yet again, collectivists seeking yet more carnage (Dantes post the page before) in the misbegotten quest of population and more importantly PEOPLE control.

Fuck you and all your murderous kind you lazy prick.

 

[westwall]

Richard Muller, Global Warming Skeptic, Now Agrees Climate Change Is Real

Muller was never a skeptic, you moron.

REALLY? says who, you?

Muller, you fucking dipshit. Pull your fucking head out of your ass and read his work. Nowhere does he even remotely come accross as a sceptic. But that would ruin your meme wouldn't it.

Too bad, that's the reality.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

In his own words without your filter:

CALL me a converted skeptic. Three years ago I identified problems in previous climate studies that, in my mind, threw doubt on the very existence of global warming. Last year, following an intensive research effort involving a dozen scientists, I concluded that global warming was real and that the prior estimates of the rate of warming were correct. I’m now going a step further: Humans are almost entirely the cause.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/30/o...imate-change-skeptic.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

 

[westwall]

"Muller's research team carefully examined two chief criticisms by skeptics. One is that weather stations are unreliable; the other is that cities, which create heat islands, were skewing the temperature analysis.

"'The skeptics raised valid points and everybody should have been a skeptic two years ago,' Muller said in a telephone interview. 'And now we have confidence that the temperature rise that had previously been reported had been done without bias.'

"Muller said that he came into the study 'with a proper skepticism,' something scientists 'should always have. I was somewhat bothered by the fact that there was not enough skepticism' before"

Do you lack sufficient skepticism of Koch brothers' motives?

Richard Muller, Global Warming Skeptic, Now Agrees Climate Change Is Real

daveman is correct. Muller was never a global warming skeptic.

he did heavily criticize Mann's graph. then he organized a redo of global temps but left the stats to someone else. he also borrowed info from a station quality paper but broke confidence to grandstand to a senate committee. his group's BEST papers have been in peer review for a very, very long time.

if you want to find his views on global warming and the IPCC just watch his lectures on youtube

In his own words without your filter:

CALL me a converted skeptic. Three years ago I identified problems in previous climate studies that, in my mind, threw doubt on the very existence of global warming. Last year, following an intensive research effort involving a dozen scientists, I concluded that global warming was real and that the prior estimates of the rate of warming were correct. I’m now going a step further: Humans are almost entirely the cause.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/30/o...imate-change-skeptic.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

Biodiversity, the new AGW mantra....and that from years ago. Sceptic????not by a long shot.

"Subsequently, Muller branched out into other areas of science, and in particular the Earth sciences. His work has included attempting to understand the ice ages, dynamics at the core-mantle boundary, patterns of extinction and biodiversity through time, and the processes associated with impact cratering. One of his most well known proposals is the Nemesis hypothesis suggesting the Sun could have an as yet undetected companion dwarf star, whose perturbations of the Oort cloud and subsequent effects on the flux of comets entering the inner Solar System could explain an apparent 26 million year periodicity in extinction events."

 

[westwall]

In his own words without your filter:

CALL me a converted skeptic. Three years ago I identified problems in previous climate studies that, in my mind, threw doubt on the very existence of global warming. Last year, following an intensive research effort involving a dozen scientists, I concluded that global warming was real and that the prior estimates of the rate of warming were correct. I’m now going a step further: Humans are almost entirely the cause.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/30/o...imate-change-skeptic.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

Here you go idiot. These are all Mullers views of AGW "theory" when he was supposedly a "sceptic". As can be plainly seen...well, probably not to the brain dead such as yourself,
but to a normal person he very clearly was never a sceptic.

Enjoy the truth silly person...

Author and physicist Richard A. Muller chats with Grist about getting science back in the White Hous | Grist

Physics the Next President Needs to Know | Wired Science | Wired.com

Medieval Global Warming | MIT Technology Review

Bay Area Nobel Prize winner named US Energy Czar | abc7news.com

Global Warming Bombshell | MIT Technology Review

 

[mamooth]

Let's check out more of what Hansen said.

"The current stand-still of the 5-year running mean global temperature may be largely a consequence of the fact that the first half of the past 10 years had predominantly El Nino conditions, and the second half had predominantly La Nina conditions." -- Hansen

That's what everyone already knew. The persistent La Nina has been depressing surface air temps. That has jack to do with global warming theory or the heat balance of the earth, it just means more heat going into the ocean instead of the air. Eventually the La Nina will flip to El Nino, and air temps will skyrocket.

Now, only a moron would have thought that the La Nina/ El Nino cycle somehow refuted global warming. But look who's posting here, the usual array of hysterical right-wing political cultists. If they didn't do a face plant into a cow patty every time they spoke, they wouldn't be denialists.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

In his own words without your filter:

CALL me a converted skeptic. Three years ago I identified problems in previous climate studies that, in my mind, threw doubt on the very existence of global warming. Last year, following an intensive research effort involving a dozen scientists, I concluded that global warming was real and that the prior estimates of the rate of warming were correct. I’m now going a step further: Humans are almost entirely the cause.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/30/o...imate-change-skeptic.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

Here you go idiot. These are all Mullers views of AGW "theory" when he was supposedly a "sceptic". As can be plainly seen...well, probably not to the brain dead such as yourself,
but to a normal person he very clearly was never a sceptic.

Enjoy the truth silly person...

Author and physicist Richard A. Muller chats with Grist about getting science back in the White Hous | Grist

Physics the Next President Needs to Know | Wired Science | Wired.com

Medieval Global Warming | MIT Technology Review

Bay Area Nobel Prize winner named US Energy Czar | abc7news.com

Global Warming Bombshell | MIT Technology Review

context. you leave out the context of his shifting belief based on evidence...unlike you

In his own words without your filter:

CALL me a converted skeptic. Three years ago I identified problems in previous climate studies that, in my mind, threw doubt on the very existence of global warming. Last year, following an intensive research effort involving a dozen scientists, I concluded that global warming was real and that the prior estimates of the rate of warming were correct. I’m now going a step further: Humans are almost entirely the cause.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/30/opinion/the-conversion-of-a-climate-change-skeptic.html?

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

Let's check out more of what Hansen said.

"The current stand-still of the 5-year running mean global temperature may be largely a consequence of the fact that the first half of the past 10 years had predominantly El Nino conditions, and the second half had predominantly La Nina conditions." -- Hansen

That's what everyone already knew. The persistent La Nina has been depressing surface air temps. That has jack to do with global warming theory or the heat balance of the earth, it just means more heat going into the ocean instead of the air. Eventually the La Nina will flip to El Nino, and air temps will skyrocket.

Now, only a moron would have thought that the La Nina/ El Nino cycle somehow refuted global warming. But look who's posting here, the usual array of hysterical right-wing political cultists. If they didn't do a face plant into a cow patty every time they spoke, they wouldn't be denialists.

yup. they take quotes out of context and build castles in the air

 

[westwall]

Here you go idiot. These are all Mullers views of AGW "theory" when he was supposedly a "sceptic". As can be plainly seen...well, probably not to the brain dead such as yourself,
but to a normal person he very clearly was never a sceptic.

Enjoy the truth silly person...

Author and physicist Richard A. Muller chats with Grist about getting science back in the White Hous | Grist

Physics the Next President Needs to Know | Wired Science | Wired.com

Medieval Global Warming | MIT Technology Review

Bay Area Nobel Prize winner named US Energy Czar | abc7news.com

Global Warming Bombshell | MIT Technology Review

context. you leave out the context of his shifting belief based on evidence...unlike you

In his own words without your filter:

CALL me a converted skeptic. Three years ago I identified problems in previous climate studies that, in my mind, threw doubt on the very existence of global warming. Last year, following an intensive research effort involving a dozen scientists, I concluded that global warming was real and that the prior estimates of the rate of warming were correct. I’m now going a step further: Humans are almost entirely the cause.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/30/opinion/the-conversion-of-a-climate-change-skeptic.html?

Bullcrap. These views are from as long ago as 2003 and they are all written in the vernacular of the AGW proponent. I see you are still not bothered by intellectual honesty.

Go figure.

 

[westwall]

Let's check out more of what Hansen said.

"The current stand-still of the 5-year running mean global temperature may be largely a consequence of the fact that the first half of the past 10 years had predominantly El Nino conditions, and the second half had predominantly La Nina conditions." -- Hansen

That's what everyone already knew. The persistent La Nina has been depressing surface air temps. That has jack to do with global warming theory or the heat balance of the earth, it just means more heat going into the ocean instead of the air. Eventually the La Nina will flip to El Nino, and air temps will skyrocket.

Now, only a moron would have thought that the La Nina/ El Nino cycle somehow refuted global warming. But look who's posting here, the usual array of hysterical right-wing political cultists. If they didn't do a face plant into a cow patty every time they spoke, they wouldn't be denialists.

Welll, well. Look who discovered natural cycles and normal variability all of a sudden

You nimrods were all about "there is no climate variability and there is only CO2". We, on the other hand were all about natural cycles. Now that we have been proven correct you asshats try and jump on the bandwagon and claim that you were saying this all along....you silly liars!

Your propaganda is coming back to bite you in the ass. I hope you have a thick derrier.