U.S. Marines test all-male squads against mixed-gender squads: Results are bleak

[bripat9643]

Why test a mixed gender Marine unit against an all male Marine unit?

That's not who they'd ever be fighting against.

I would pay serious money to see a bull dyke Marine take on Obiwan, Rabbi, or Koshergrl, in hand to hand combat. The amusement value alone would boost troop morale.

But whether or not they can toss grammas is irrelevant. The discussion is how valuable are they in the field...and the answer is...they're a liability.

What I wonder is what happens when you have three men and one woman in a foxhole all day long and she has to go to the bathroom. Leaving the foxhole means almost certainly getting shot. What does the woman do?

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Anyone truly surprised ?
It won't matter at all though, we don't fight wars to win anyway.

The US Marines tested all-male squads against mixed-gender ones, and the results were pretty bleak

In 2013, the US military lifted its ban on women serving in combat. Shortly after, the Marine Corps began what it calls an “unprecedented research effort” to understand the impact of gender integration on its combat forces. That took the form of a year-long experiment called the Ground Combat Element Integrated Task Force, in which 400 Marines—100 of them female—trained for combat together and then undertook a simulated deployment, with every facet of their experience measured and scrutinized.

All branches of the military are facing a January 1, 2016, deadline to open all combat roles to women. The Marine Corps is using this experiment to decide whether to request exceptions to that mandate.The Corps’ summary of the experiment, posted online today by NPR, concludes that combat teams were less effective when they included women.

Overall, the report says, all-male teams and crews outperformed mixed-gender ones on 93 out of 134 tasks evaluated. All-male teams were universally faster “in each tactical movement.” On “lethality,” the report says:

All-male 0311 (rifleman) infantry squads had better accuracy compared to gender-integrated squads. There was a notable difference between genders for every individual weapons system (i.e. M4, M27, and M203) within the 0311 squads, except for the probability of hit & near miss with the M4.

And:

All-male infantry crew-served weapons teams engaged targets quicker and registered more hits on target as compared to gender-integrated infantry crew-served weapons teams, with the exception of M2 accuracy.

And:

All-male squads, teams and crews and gender-integrated squads, teams, and crews had a noticeable difference in their performance of the basic combat tasks of negotiating obstacles and evacuating casualties. For example, when negotiating the wall obstacle, male Marines threw their packs to the top of the wall, whereas female Marines required regular assistance in getting their packs to the top. During casualty evacuation assessments, there were notable differences in execution times between all-male and gender-integrated groups, except in the case where teams conducted a casualty evacuation as a one-Marine fireman’s carry of another (in which case it was most often a male Marine who “evacuated” the casualty)

The report also says that female Marines had higher rates of injury throughout the experiment.

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Such conclusions may be disheartening to proponents of gender integration in combat, and certainly put a damper on the news that the Army’s ranger school recently graduated its first female soldiers. The tests come with at least one important caveat: As the Marine Corps Times notes, many of of the male study participants had previously served in combat units, whereas female participants, by necessity, came directly from infantry schools or from noncombat jobs.

The US Marines tested all-male squads against mixed-gender ones, and the results were pretty bleak

Interesting on the accuracy measurements.....I wonder if that could be trained out.

Doubtful. SWAT teams rarely include females and it's for the same reaoson....they don't shoot as well. They have smaller weaker hands. Accurate shooting requires many things...but a firm strong grip is crucial, especially with combat weapons (sniper rifles much different...women can easily do that just as well).

Pistols, shotguns, AR15....women almost never shoot as well and no amount of training will grow their hands to be larger and stronger.

Well, save money and buy smaller weapons or make them smaller for women. But with ground war becoming obsolete due to drones and other technologies, even men may no longer be needed in ground combat situations

The gun is soon to be as useful in war as the stick, and the rock...

 

[Obiwan]

Why test a mixed gender Marine unit against an all male Marine unit?

That's not who they'd ever be fighting against.

I would pay serious money to see a bull dyke Marine take on Obiwan, Rabbi, or Koshergrl, in hand to hand combat. The amusement value alone would boost troop morale.

But whether or not they can toss grammas is irrelevant. The discussion is how valuable are they in the field...and the answer is...they're a liability.

What I wonder is what happens when you have three men and one woman in a foxhole all day long and she has to go to the bathroom. Leaving the foxhole means almost certainly getting shot. What does the woman do?

Adapt...

The question is ability..

I've seen some good ones, but very few...

They lack in strength.

 

[bripat9643]

Anyone truly surprised ?
It won't matter at all though, we don't fight wars to win anyway.

The US Marines tested all-male squads against mixed-gender ones, and the results were pretty bleak

In 2013, the US military lifted its ban on women serving in combat. Shortly after, the Marine Corps began what it calls an “unprecedented research effort” to understand the impact of gender integration on its combat forces. That took the form of a year-long experiment called the Ground Combat Element Integrated Task Force, in which 400 Marines—100 of them female—trained for combat together and then undertook a simulated deployment, with every facet of their experience measured and scrutinized.

All branches of the military are facing a January 1, 2016, deadline to open all combat roles to women. The Marine Corps is using this experiment to decide whether to request exceptions to that mandate.The Corps’ summary of the experiment, posted online today by NPR, concludes that combat teams were less effective when they included women.

Overall, the report says, all-male teams and crews outperformed mixed-gender ones on 93 out of 134 tasks evaluated. All-male teams were universally faster “in each tactical movement.” On “lethality,” the report says:

All-male 0311 (rifleman) infantry squads had better accuracy compared to gender-integrated squads. There was a notable difference between genders for every individual weapons system (i.e. M4, M27, and M203) within the 0311 squads, except for the probability of hit & near miss with the M4.

And:

All-male infantry crew-served weapons teams engaged targets quicker and registered more hits on target as compared to gender-integrated infantry crew-served weapons teams, with the exception of M2 accuracy.

And:

All-male squads, teams and crews and gender-integrated squads, teams, and crews had a noticeable difference in their performance of the basic combat tasks of negotiating obstacles and evacuating casualties. For example, when negotiating the wall obstacle, male Marines threw their packs to the top of the wall, whereas female Marines required regular assistance in getting their packs to the top. During casualty evacuation assessments, there were notable differences in execution times between all-male and gender-integrated groups, except in the case where teams conducted a casualty evacuation as a one-Marine fireman’s carry of another (in which case it was most often a male Marine who “evacuated” the casualty)

The report also says that female Marines had higher rates of injury throughout the experiment.

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Such conclusions may be disheartening to proponents of gender integration in combat, and certainly put a damper on the news that the Army’s ranger school recently graduated its first female soldiers. The tests come with at least one important caveat: As the Marine Corps Times notes, many of of the male study participants had previously served in combat units, whereas female participants, by necessity, came directly from infantry schools or from noncombat jobs.

The US Marines tested all-male squads against mixed-gender ones, and the results were pretty bleak

Interesting on the accuracy measurements.....I wonder if that could be trained out.

Doubtful. SWAT teams rarely include females and it's for the same reaoson....they don't shoot as well. They have smaller weaker hands. Accurate shooting requires many things...but a firm strong grip is crucial, especially with combat weapons (sniper rifles much different...women can easily do that just as well).

Pistols, shotguns, AR15....women almost never shoot as well and no amount of training will grow their hands to be larger and stronger.

Well, save money and buy smaller weapons or make them smaller for women. But with ground war becoming obsolete due to drones and other technologies, even men may no longer be needed in ground combat situations

The gun is soon to be as useful in war as the stick, and the rock...

There will always be men carrying guns in war. The air force thought they were going to do away with planes armed with guns during the Vietnam war.

 

[bripat9643]

Why test a mixed gender Marine unit against an all male Marine unit?

That's not who they'd ever be fighting against.

I would pay serious money to see a bull dyke Marine take on Obiwan, Rabbi, or Koshergrl, in hand to hand combat. The amusement value alone would boost troop morale.

But whether or not they can toss grammas is irrelevant. The discussion is how valuable are they in the field...and the answer is...they're a liability.

What I wonder is what happens when you have three men and one woman in a foxhole all day long and she has to go to the bathroom. Leaving the foxhole means almost certainly getting shot. What does the woman do?

Adapt...

The question is ability..

I've seen some good ones, but very few...

They lack in strength.

That isn't the only issue. What happens when the commander has a mission that involves a high probability of someone getting killed. Are they going to send woman?

What happens when when one woman and three men are lying wounded out in the battle zone and they can save the one woman or the three men? Who get's saved?

 

[JQPublic1]

Anyone truly surprised ?
It won't matter at all though, we don't fight wars to win anyway.

The US Marines tested all-male squads against mixed-gender ones, and the results were pretty bleak

In 2013, the US military lifted its ban on women serving in combat. Shortly after, the Marine Corps began what it calls an “unprecedented research effort” to understand the impact of gender integration on its combat forces. That took the form of a year-long experiment called the Ground Combat Element Integrated Task Force, in which 400 Marines—100 of them female—trained for combat together and then undertook a simulated deployment, with every facet of their experience measured and scrutinized.

All branches of the military are facing a January 1, 2016, deadline to open all combat roles to women. The Marine Corps is using this experiment to decide whether to request exceptions to that mandate.The Corps’ summary of the experiment, posted online today by NPR, concludes that combat teams were less effective when they included women.

Overall, the report says, all-male teams and crews outperformed mixed-gender ones on 93 out of 134 tasks evaluated. All-male teams were universally faster “in each tactical movement.” On “lethality,” the report says:

All-male 0311 (rifleman) infantry squads had better accuracy compared to gender-integrated squads. There was a notable difference between genders for every individual weapons system (i.e. M4, M27, and M203) within the 0311 squads, except for the probability of hit & near miss with the M4.

And:

All-male infantry crew-served weapons teams engaged targets quicker and registered more hits on target as compared to gender-integrated infantry crew-served weapons teams, with the exception of M2 accuracy.

And:

All-male squads, teams and crews and gender-integrated squads, teams, and crews had a noticeable difference in their performance of the basic combat tasks of negotiating obstacles and evacuating casualties. For example, when negotiating the wall obstacle, male Marines threw their packs to the top of the wall, whereas female Marines required regular assistance in getting their packs to the top. During casualty evacuation assessments, there were notable differences in execution times between all-male and gender-integrated groups, except in the case where teams conducted a casualty evacuation as a one-Marine fireman’s carry of another (in which case it was most often a male Marine who “evacuated” the casualty)

The report also says that female Marines had higher rates of injury throughout the experiment.

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Such conclusions may be disheartening to proponents of gender integration in combat, and certainly put a damper on the news that the Army’s ranger school recently graduated its first female soldiers. The tests come with at least one important caveat: As the Marine Corps Times notes, many of of the male study participants had previously served in combat units, whereas female participants, by necessity, came directly from infantry schools or from noncombat jobs.

The US Marines tested all-male squads against mixed-gender ones, and the results were pretty bleak

Interesting on the accuracy measurements.....I wonder if that could be trained out.

Doubtful. SWAT teams rarely include females and it's for the same reaoson....they don't shoot as well. They have smaller weaker hands. Accurate shooting requires many things...but a firm strong grip is crucial, especially with combat weapons (sniper rifles much different...women can easily do that just as well).

Pistols, shotguns, AR15....women almost never shoot as well and no amount of training will grow their hands to be larger and stronger.

Well, save money and buy smaller weapons or make them smaller for women. But with ground war becoming obsolete due to drones and other technologies, even men may no longer be needed in ground combat situations

So you want to go with inaccurate weapons, as apposed to direct fire, and increased civilian casualties?

How undemocratic..
.

Are you a war criminal?

A smaller weapon does not necessarily equate to inaccuracy. Further, with increasing technological innovations collateral damage could be kept to a minimum, possibly even more than when ground troops are deployed.

 

[JQPublic1]

Anyone truly surprised ?
It won't matter at all though, we don't fight wars to win anyway.

The US Marines tested all-male squads against mixed-gender ones, and the results were pretty bleak

In 2013, the US military lifted its ban on women serving in combat. Shortly after, the Marine Corps began what it calls an “unprecedented research effort” to understand the impact of gender integration on its combat forces. That took the form of a year-long experiment called the Ground Combat Element Integrated Task Force, in which 400 Marines—100 of them female—trained for combat together and then undertook a simulated deployment, with every facet of their experience measured and scrutinized.

All branches of the military are facing a January 1, 2016, deadline to open all combat roles to women. The Marine Corps is using this experiment to decide whether to request exceptions to that mandate.The Corps’ summary of the experiment, posted online today by NPR, concludes that combat teams were less effective when they included women.

Overall, the report says, all-male teams and crews outperformed mixed-gender ones on 93 out of 134 tasks evaluated. All-male teams were universally faster “in each tactical movement.” On “lethality,” the report says:

All-male 0311 (rifleman) infantry squads had better accuracy compared to gender-integrated squads. There was a notable difference between genders for every individual weapons system (i.e. M4, M27, and M203) within the 0311 squads, except for the probability of hit & near miss with the M4.

And:

All-male infantry crew-served weapons teams engaged targets quicker and registered more hits on target as compared to gender-integrated infantry crew-served weapons teams, with the exception of M2 accuracy.

And:

All-male squads, teams and crews and gender-integrated squads, teams, and crews had a noticeable difference in their performance of the basic combat tasks of negotiating obstacles and evacuating casualties. For example, when negotiating the wall obstacle, male Marines threw their packs to the top of the wall, whereas female Marines required regular assistance in getting their packs to the top. During casualty evacuation assessments, there were notable differences in execution times between all-male and gender-integrated groups, except in the case where teams conducted a casualty evacuation as a one-Marine fireman’s carry of another (in which case it was most often a male Marine who “evacuated” the casualty)

The report also says that female Marines had higher rates of injury throughout the experiment.

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Such conclusions may be disheartening to proponents of gender integration in combat, and certainly put a damper on the news that the Army’s ranger school recently graduated its first female soldiers. The tests come with at least one important caveat: As the Marine Corps Times notes, many of of the male study participants had previously served in combat units, whereas female participants, by necessity, came directly from infantry schools or from noncombat jobs.

The US Marines tested all-male squads against mixed-gender ones, and the results were pretty bleak

Interesting on the accuracy measurements.....I wonder if that could be trained out.

Doubtful. SWAT teams rarely include females and it's for the same reaoson....they don't shoot as well. They have smaller weaker hands. Accurate shooting requires many things...but a firm strong grip is crucial, especially with combat weapons (sniper rifles much different...women can easily do that just as well).

Pistols, shotguns, AR15....women almost never shoot as well and no amount of training will grow their hands to be larger and stronger.

Well, save money and buy smaller weapons or make them smaller for women. But with ground war becoming obsolete due to drones and other technologies, even men may no longer be needed in ground combat situations

So you want to go with inaccurate weapons, as apposed to direct fire, and increased civilian casualties?

How undemocratic..
.

Are you a war criminal?

A smaller weapon does not necessarily equate to inaccuracy. Further, with increasing technological innovations collateral damage could be kept to a minimum, possibly even more than when ground troops are deployed.

 

[Obiwan]

Anyone truly surprised ?
It won't matter at all though, we don't fight wars to win anyway.

The US Marines tested all-male squads against mixed-gender ones, and the results were pretty bleak

Interesting on the accuracy measurements.....I wonder if that could be trained out.

Doubtful. SWAT teams rarely include females and it's for the same reaoson....they don't shoot as well. They have smaller weaker hands. Accurate shooting requires many things...but a firm strong grip is crucial, especially with combat weapons (sniper rifles much different...women can easily do that just as well).

Pistols, shotguns, AR15....women almost never shoot as well and no amount of training will grow their hands to be larger and stronger.

Well, save money and buy smaller weapons or make them smaller for women. But with ground war becoming obsolete due to drones and other technologies, even men may no longer be needed in ground combat situations

So you want to go with inaccurate weapons, as apposed to direct fire, and increased civilian casualties?

How undemocratic..
.

Are you a war criminal?

A smaller weapon does not necessarily equate to inaccuracy. Further, with increasing technological innovations collateral damage could be kept to a minimum, possibly even more than when ground troops are deployed.

State YOUR service...

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Funny thing is, if I was going to wage war I'd send young men to die in droves as young women are far too valuable. Less crime, more sex and babies. Winner winner, chicken dinner. Godspeed, boys...

Did you have a point, or are you just trying to be a dick, as usual?

My point is that I can lose 50 little dicks to one of these, and still kick your ass.

Young men are of very little value. Fodder for the cannons...

And your military experience is what, pussy???

We're talking physical combat, not your gay sex...

If you die, it's violent, not from AIDS.

I'm not cannon fodder, I built what they need to kill, and was well paid for it. Motherhood and apple pie is the lie we use, to get you to lay down your life, dumbass...

 

[whitehall]

General Victor "Brute" Krulak risked a court martial when he fought against the Truman administration attempt to do away with the Marine Corps completely after WW2. The Clinton administration called Marines "neanderthals" among other things when the USMC successfully resisted the idiocy of the Bill/Hillary administration to turn the Marine recruit centers into co-ed love affairs. Barry Hussein out slicked the slickster by appointing a phony Marine like James Amos as commandant even though Amos never attended Marine basic school and as a pilot never commanded ground troops. True to form Amos agreed to court martial a hard charging combat Marine Officer for the crime of pissing on the bodies of the enemy. If a political administration tries hard enough and with the cooperation of the liberal media it's conceivable that they can undermine all that makes the Marine Corps the greatest fighting force. God help America if that happens.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Anyone truly surprised ?
It won't matter at all though, we don't fight wars to win anyway.

The US Marines tested all-male squads against mixed-gender ones, and the results were pretty bleak

Interesting on the accuracy measurements.....I wonder if that could be trained out.

Doubtful. SWAT teams rarely include females and it's for the same reaoson....they don't shoot as well. They have smaller weaker hands. Accurate shooting requires many things...but a firm strong grip is crucial, especially with combat weapons (sniper rifles much different...women can easily do that just as well).

Pistols, shotguns, AR15....women almost never shoot as well and no amount of training will grow their hands to be larger and stronger.

Well, save money and buy smaller weapons or make them smaller for women. But with ground war becoming obsolete due to drones and other technologies, even men may no longer be needed in ground combat situations

So you want to go with inaccurate weapons, as apposed to direct fire, and increased civilian casualties?

How undemocratic..
.

Are you a war criminal?

A smaller weapon does not necessarily equate to inaccuracy. Further, with increasing technological innovations collateral damage could be kept to a minimum, possibly even more than when ground troops are deployed.

lol SMALLER WEAPON, the M-16 is beyond light fully loaded and has almost no kick, in fact an instructor can hold it in front of his crotch and fire it with no damage. And exactly how does one make a squad automatic weapon smaller and lighter then the current ones?

 

[deltex1]

Funny thing is, if I was going to wage war I'd send young men to die in droves as young women are far too valuable. Less crime, more sex and babies. Winner winner, chicken dinner. Godspeed, boys...

If you were to wage war you'll need a set of balls. No chance of that.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Funny thing is, if I was going to wage war I'd send young men to die in droves as young women are far too valuable. Less crime, more sex and babies. Winner winner, chicken dinner. Godspeed, boys...

Did you have a point, or are you just trying to be a dick, as usual?

My point is that I can lose 50 little dicks to one of these, and still kick your ass.

Young men are of very little value. Fodder for the cannons...

And your military experience is what, pussy???

We're talking physical combat, not your gay sex...

If you die, it's violent, not from AIDS.

I'm not cannon fodder, I built what they need to kill, and was well paid for it. Motherhood and apple pie is the lie we use, to get you to lay down your life, dumbass...

Of course you're a pussy...

Go back and Paint By Numbers and let the adults talk...

What I'm not is stupid. Get paid like shit, ordered around, and have people shoot at you? Or, make the big bucks, manage others, and go home to single-malts and TV at night? Gee, I just can't figure that out.

And do you think you were protecting American by being walking targets for the Sand ******* on the other side of the fucking planet? We love the robots that shit and eat, and shoot who we tell them to. We make a big deal about it when they come home in a box however we always figured that they would, if they were any good at doing our biding that is. Cannon fodder like you are tools, the same as hammers, and just as expendable...

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Funny thing is, if I was going to wage war I'd send young men to die in droves as young women are far too valuable. Less crime, more sex and babies. Winner winner, chicken dinner. Godspeed, boys...

If you were to wage war you'll need a set of balls. No chance of that.

Sweetcheeks, when I fight wars the wounded cannon fodder don't make it home since I'm not interested in paying for damaged goods. You don't want me fighting your wars since I win, and you die. You are nothing more than an item on the Butcher's Bill. If I gave you any thought at all then I couldn't win, so, I don't...

 

[Obiwan]

Did you have a point, or are you just trying to be a dick, as usual?

My point is that I can lose 50 little dicks to one of these, and still kick your ass.

Young men are of very little value. Fodder for the cannons...

And your military experience is what, pussy???

We're talking physical combat, not your gay sex...

If you die, it's violent, not from AIDS.

I'm not cannon fodder, I built what they need to kill, and was well paid for it. Motherhood and apple pie is the lie we use, to get you to lay down your life, dumbass...

Of course you're a pussy...

Go back and Paint By Numbers and let the adults talk...

What I'm not is stupid. Get paid like shit, ordered around, and have people shoot at you? Or, make the big bucks, manage others, and go home to single-malts and TV at night? Gee, I just can't figure that out.

And do you think you were protecting American by being walking targets for the Sand ******* on the other side of the fucking planet? We love the robots that shit and eat, and shoot who we tell them to. We make a big deal about it when they come home in a box however we always figured that they would, if they were any good at doing our biding that is. Cannon fodder like you are tools, the same as hammers, and just as expendable...

So you have no training or experience???

GFY!!!

The adults are talking.

 

[Obiwan]

Funny thing is, if I was going to wage war I'd send young men to die in droves as young women are far too valuable. Less crime, more sex and babies. Winner winner, chicken dinner. Godspeed, boys...

If you were to wage war you'll need a set of balls. No chance of that.

Sweetcheeks, when I fight wars the wounded cannon fodder don't make it home since I'm not interested in paying for damaged goods. You don't want me fighting your wars since I win, and you die. You are nothing more than an item on the Butcher's Bill. If I gave you any thought at all then I couldn't win, so, I don't...

You won't fight because the weakest woman in my battalion would feed you your balls on the end of a bayonet.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

My point is that I can lose 50 little dicks to one of these, and still kick your ass.

Young men are of very little value. Fodder for the cannons...

And your military experience is what, pussy???

We're talking physical combat, not your gay sex...

If you die, it's violent, not from AIDS.

I'm not cannon fodder, I built what they need to kill, and was well paid for it. Motherhood and apple pie is the lie we use, to get you to lay down your life, dumbass...

Of course you're a pussy...

Go back and Paint By Numbers and let the adults talk...

What I'm not is stupid. Get paid like shit, ordered around, and have people shoot at you? Or, make the big bucks, manage others, and go home to single-malts and TV at night? Gee, I just can't figure that out.

And do you think you were protecting American by being walking targets for the Sand ******* on the other side of the fucking planet? We love the robots that shit and eat, and shoot who we tell them to. We make a big deal about it when they come home in a box however we always figured that they would, if they were any good at doing our biding that is. Cannon fodder like you are tools, the same as hammers, and just as expendable...

So you have no training or experience???

GFY!!!

The adults are talking.

If you were trained then we trained you, to fight and die. That is your sole purpose, don't believe that you have any other.

You work for us, you go where we say, and you kill who we say, or you die trying. Period...

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Funny thing is, if I was going to wage war I'd send young men to die in droves as young women are far too valuable. Less crime, more sex and babies. Winner winner, chicken dinner. Godspeed, boys...

If you were to wage war you'll need a set of balls. No chance of that.

Sweetcheeks, when I fight wars the wounded cannon fodder don't make it home since I'm not interested in paying for damaged goods. You don't want me fighting your wars since I win, and you die. You are nothing more than an item on the Butcher's Bill. If I gave you any thought at all then I couldn't win, so, I don't...

You won't fight because the weakest woman in my battalion would feed you your balls on the end of a bayonet.

The weakest woman in your battalion is even less of a hired gun than you are but as long as she dies fighting, I couldn't care less. At my level you never do, it gets in the way.

 

[SwimExpert]

NO... THEY PUT A CLAMP ON IT AND CHOKE IT OFF UNTIL THEIR BLADDERS BURST.

What a STUPID fucking question. What do you THINK they do?

Take a piss before they go out on mission, for starters.

 

[Obiwan]

And your military experience is what, pussy???

We're talking physical combat, not your gay sex...

If you die, it's violent, not from AIDS.

I'm not cannon fodder, I built what they need to kill, and was well paid for it. Motherhood and apple pie is the lie we use, to get you to lay down your life, dumbass...

Of course you're a pussy...

Go back and Paint By Numbers and let the adults talk...

What I'm not is stupid. Get paid like shit, ordered around, and have people shoot at you? Or, make the big bucks, manage others, and go home to single-malts and TV at night? Gee, I just can't figure that out.

And do you think you were protecting American by being walking targets for the Sand ******* on the other side of the fucking planet? We love the robots that shit and eat, and shoot who we tell them to. We make a big deal about it when they come home in a box however we always figured that they would, if they were any good at doing our biding that is. Cannon fodder like you are tools, the same as hammers, and just as expendable...

So you have no training or experience???

GFY!!!

The adults are talking.

If you were trained then we trained you, to fight and die. That is your sole purpose, don't believe that you have any other.

You work for us, you go where we say, and you kill who we say, or you die trying. Period...

And your experience to talk military matters, other than the fact that if we fight, we will leave you on the side of the road, begging the enemy for mercy???

PUSSY!!!