The Marine Corp no more?

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That is the title of the article cited below.

Personally...I believe the Commandant's logic is sound.

We have the Army to do most of the things this article woes the loss of...and an Air Force to do the rest.

The Marine Corp is a part of the Navy, and should be concentrated on Naval combat.

Let the Army handle the tanks, the artillary and the seizing of territory on land.

The Marines have a mission here that that is both vital AND soley within the purview of Naval Operation.

One that may be absolutely pivotal to victory in a potential US-China conflict.




'The Marine Corps is small, agile, and flexible, priding itself on being the first to fight, anywhere. Over the past four years, however, the current Commandant, General David H. Berger, has radically transformed the image and the mission of the Marine Corps. The primary focus now is upon developing missile units intended to sink Chinese warships. To fund those units, General Berger did away with 21% of the personnel in infantry battalions, 100% of the tanks, 67% of the cannon artillery batteries, 33% of the assault amphibious companies, nearly 30% of Marine aviation, and almost all assault breaching equipment. The desired number of large amphibious ships was reduced from 38 to 31. Due to these cuts, Marines are less capable to fight as a combined arms force. The Marine Corps cannot seize a city from an entrenched enemy, as it did Fallujah in 2004. It cannot fight on a battlefield such as Ukraine unless it queues up behind the National Guard to receive any left-over tanks and crews the U.S. Army is not employing.'

 
I personally feel that the Marine Corps should be enlarged, and these troop ships should be expanded. The Army infantry should be downsized and this focus should be transferred to National Guard units across the country, where they can train for one weekend a month and are ready to be recalled to active duty if needed.

With the new focus on technology and drones and guided missiles the mass infantry assaults may be over, and the need for more surgical strikes may be taking precedence. A skilled fighting force like the Marines can provide this force, and also augment Special Forces units and work closely with them, while we keep a larger standing army in reserve.

Due to the challenges posed by an aggressive China, expanding our Navy should be a priority.
 
Yes, and the trouble is that both China and Russia have unstoppable hypersonic missiles that will break an aircraft carrier in half, and take down all the Marines with it.

That is, expecting that the war won't go nuclear too quickly.

Regardless of all Litwin's cheerleading, the proxy war against Russia isn't going all that great?
 
We have never really needed a Marine Corps for anything other than ship protection.

Army Infantry can take care of grunt work.

It is a waste of defense funds to pay for both Marine and Army land infantry.
 
We have never really needed a Marine Corps for anything other than ship protection.

Army Infantry can take care of grunt work.

It is a waste of defense funds to pay for both Marine and Army land infantry.
Fun Fact, the Army staged more landings in the Pacific in WWII than the Marines.
A small rapid deployment force is needed, however you call it however. Making them immune to crayon wax is just a bonus.
 
the Marines are the fiercest fighting machines in the world. they are put to task precisely because they can handle it.
No they are not.

Army Airborne and Army Rangers are better trained and better equipped and have the backing of Big Army to insure success. The typical Army Infantry regiment is just as good as any Marine regiment.

Hell, the Marine Corps don't even have armor any more.

The Marines have cool uniforms and a great hymn and a fantastic Public Relations Department but it is the US Army that you call on when you need to kick ass.
 
No they are not.

Army Airborne and Army Rangers are better trained and better equipped and have the backing of Big Army to insure success. The typical Army Infantry regiment is just as good as any Marine regiment.

uh-huh.


Hell, the Marine Corps don't even have armor any more.

they take all the scrap from the other branches & STILL get the job done.


The Marines have cool uniforms and a great hymn and a fantastic Public Relations Department but it is the US Army that you call on when you need to kick ass.

is that why the Marines can go in fighting with only the POTUS order?
 
uh-huh.




they take all the scrap from the other branches & STILL get the job done.




is that why the Marines can go in fighting with only the POTUS order?


In Vietnam the Marine Cobras were prohibited from flying below 1500 feet. The 1st Cav flew them at 500 feet and DOWN.

The 1st Cav was responsible for 50% of all enemy casualties, and one battalion, the First of the 9th, was responsible for 50% of that!
 
I (Army) served in I-Corp in Vietnam for most of 1968.

There were Marines stationed at a nearby firebase.

They were all the time begging us for equipment, ammo, fuel, food and supplies.

We called them "the beggar boys". "Here comes the Begger Boys again".
 
I (Army) served in I-Corp in Vietnam for most of 1968.

There were Marines stationed at a nearby firebase.

They were all the time begging us for equipment, ammo, fuel, food and supplies.

We called them "the beggar boys". "Here comes the Begger Boys again".

they had to make do.

that's called having ingenuity & survivor skills.
 

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