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First, that mortal enemy of Republicans, the IRS agent.
Every agent recovers MUCH more in otherwise lost revenue to the Treasury than his salary. So why do conservatives want them gone? Because conservatives encourage deadbeat taxpayers in their ranks.
Second, another target of the GOP, the illegal alien. (Notice how they're willing to give people breaking the law by not paying their taxes a full pass, but are willing to spend huge amounts chasing down poor Mexicans.)
Illegal aliens are lowering your expenses across the board from cheaper produce to cheaper lawn care. Many pay Social Security that they will never collect on. Tax dodgers, on the other hand, are costing you, if you're one of us who pay their taxes.
Return to the idea of a federal government with specifically enumerated powers that can meddle in nothing else. Then you'd see the resurgence of the American dream.
I've yet to hear a libertarian get anything totally right.
But you're "totally right"? You'll have to back up with logic, reason and specificity.
I'm not 'willing' to do any such thing. The power banks hold has nothing to do with free markets and everything to do with central planner meddling. In this case, the Federal Reserve. Libertarians have long called for ending the Fed. The Federal Reserve enacts central price controls, which are never a good idea. They control the price of money (the interest rate), while suggesting they're goal is to 'control' inflation. That's bullshit. They don't control inflation, they cause it. For example, a widget that cost $1 in 1780 cost $1 in 1913, before the Fed was created. In other words, the market saw some products and services rise in price, others decreased. Overall, inflation was flat.
Since 1913, that widget that cost $1 in 1913 now costs nearly $24! The Fed caused that...and that kind of inflation is the most regressive tax of all.
End the Fed.
In the sense that the price of money "should" be determined by free market supply and demand, yes.
No libertarian wants to "kill" the government. That's anarchism. We simply want the government to restrict it's power to the specifically enumerated powers in the Constitution.
If you think giving even more money to a government that long ago exceeded its powers is the answer, I'm not sure I can help you.
I've already addressed libertarian's position on the 'bank run economy'. However, that does not change the fact that SS is a Ponzi scheme that, like all Ponzi schemes, is destined to fail. Ponzi schemes only work as long as more and more people contribute money into the program, so that early investors can get paid. The problem with foisting such a plan on an entire country is that the citizens would have to produce increasing numbers of taxpayers over time. That never happens in a society that is advancing in modernity and economic success. Such societies have FEWER offspring, not more. Look to failing, third world nations for families that have lots and lots of children.
However you look at it, SS has failed. It's broke, and the idea of taxing us even more to resurrect a bad idea.
Now you're spewing Marxist nonsense. There is no Constitutional mandate, nor moral justification, to force some citizens to labor on the behalf of others. That kind of economic slavery must end. If you wish to assist someone else's family, write a check, start a charity or lend a hand. Forcing others to do so, with the threat of incarceration, is immoral.
Further, you must look at the actual results of welfare, which began in earnest in the late 1960s with the so called 'great society', the goal of which was to end poverty. In the decades prior, the rate of poverty was dropping precipitously, with no federal spending on welfare. Since then, after spending trillions of dollars, the decline in poverty ceased and has in fact increased! The fed's attempts to end poverty have actually made the problem worse!!
People with your revulsion for 'welfare' just don't care whether people need help or not. You're not a part of the team, you're a scavenger raiding the garbage bin late in the night. And, besides, this country is already one of the stingiest on the planet by almost every measure.
Bullshit. As I've proven, when charity was a voluntary choice, poverty declined. When the central planners mandated it, poverty increased. Libertarians care deeply about those that are having a tough time. We simply believe VOLUNTARY actions produce superior results than force. And you're wrong about American stinginess. Whatever socialist garbage has influenced you, I strongly suggest you find other sources of information and economic thought. Try Mises, Hayek or Friedman to start.
Before you get on your high horse, no, I don't think much of lazy bastards unwilling to do their part. But I don't count those willing to keep people poor, so that they'll be available to work cheap, as any kind of hero either. They're just as much crooks as the guys in Congress no matter how rich they get.
First, you should understand what it means to be poor in America. Our poorest citizens rank in the 84th percentile of world wealth. That's right, our poor are comparably rich! So much for stingy Americans. Further, no libertarian is "willing to keep people poor". We believe free markets and voluntary choice produce superior wealth for EVERYONE. Just look at America before the Progressive era began 100 years ago when more poor became middle class and more middle class became rich than at any time in history. The central planners were just sure they knew better. 100 years later, we can see just how wrong they were.
If you're truly interested in understanding just how detrimental are the ideas of central planning, more taxes, and entitlement programs, you might consider these works:
The Road to Serfdom: Text and Documents, The Definitive Edition by F. A. Hayek | 9780226320557 | Paperback | Barnes & Noble
Liberalism / Edition 1 by von Mises | 9780865975866 | Paperback | Barnes & Noble
A Monetary History of the United States, 1867-1960 / Edition 1 by Milton Friedman | 9780691003542 | Paperback | Barnes & Noble
End The Fed by Ron Paul | 9780446549172 | Paperback | Barnes & Noble
No, They Can't: Why Government Fails-But Individuals Succeed by John Stossel | 9781451640953 | Paperback | Barnes & Noble
First, that mortal enemy of Republicans, the IRS agent.
Every agent recovers MUCH more in otherwise lost revenue to the Treasury than his salary. So why do conservatives want them gone? Because conservatives encourage deadbeat taxpayers in their ranks.
Second, another target of the GOP, the illegal alien. (Notice how they're willing to give people breaking the law by not paying their taxes a full pass, but are willing to spend huge amounts chasing down poor Mexicans.)
Illegal aliens are lowering your expenses across the board from cheaper produce to cheaper lawn care. Many pay Social Security that they will never collect on. Tax dodgers, on the other hand, are costing you, if you're one of us who pay their taxes.
This really sums up the modern day Dumocrat. Personally, I don't want cheaper - I want legal.
If raping your wife results in cheaper housing, are you for it? If molesting children results in cheaper automobiles, are you for it? If you stole some of your groceries, the total would be much cheaper for you. So do you support all of that? Well, you probably do. However, the rest of us find that appalling. I don't want cheaper - I want legal.
If you're truly interested in understanding just how detrimental are the ideas of central planning, more taxes, and entitlement programs, you might consider...
This really sums up the modern day Dumocrat. Personally, I don't want cheaper - I want legal.
If raping your wife results in cheaper housing, are you for it? If molesting children results in cheaper automobiles, are you for it? If you stole some of your groceries, the total would be much cheaper for you. So do you support all of that? Well, you probably do. However, the rest of us find that appalling. I don't want cheaper - I want legal.
So... you're in favor of beefing up the IRS to catch more ILLEGAL tax cheats? Cause if you are, have one on me.
Don't pretend you conservatives haven't been screaming about how your taxes are killing you for decades now. What the hell do you think you've been saying when you say you don't want your taxes to go up, but you want the same services?
YOU want cheaper alright, and YOU don't care who gets hurt. Not me.
There's got to be a better way to engage in an argument on this forum than this messy, hard to follow result. I'm spending most of my time trying to find the replies.
If you're truly interested in understanding just how detrimental are the ideas of central planning, more taxes, and entitlement programs, you might consider...
Some screed!
You haven't said one thing I haven't heard before, and moved beyond, long ago. Your basic problem is that you haven't quite taken your arguments to their logical conclusion, probably because you don't like the way they break. And you're missing some very key points, especially about money.
But, at least you've been thinking.
Keep going over your thoughts and you might eventually get it. My money is on you NOT wanting to move off your position, no matter what.
I'd be curious if you are a member of any organization that requires dues? Do you also try to skip on those?
Good Lord.. .how old are you?
I don't know, Soggy, how old do I have to be to know better than you? 10 maybe?
If you're truly interested in understanding just how detrimental are the ideas of central planning, more taxes, and entitlement programs, you might consider...
Some screed!
You haven't said one thing I haven't heard before, and moved beyond, long ago. Your basic problem is that you haven't quite taken your arguments to their logical conclusion, probably because you don't like the way they break. And you're missing some very key points, especially about money.
But, at least you've been thinking.
Keep going over your thoughts and you might eventually get it. My money is on you NOT wanting to move off your position, no matter what.
I'd be curious if you are a member of any organization that requires dues? Do you also try to skip on those?
There's got to be a better way to engage in an argument on this forum than this messy, hard to follow result. I'm spending most of my time trying to find the replies.
First, that mortal enemy of Republicans, the IRS agent.
Every agent recovers MUCH more in otherwise lost revenue to the Treasury than his salary. So why do conservatives want them gone? Because conservatives encourage deadbeat taxpayers in their ranks.
Second, another target of the GOP, the illegal alien. (Notice how they're willing to give people breaking the law by not paying their taxes a full pass, but are willing to spend huge amounts chasing down poor Mexicans.)
Illegal aliens are lowering your expenses across the board from cheaper produce to cheaper lawn care. Many pay Social Security that they will never collect on. Tax dodgers, on the other hand, are costing you, if you're one of us who pay their taxes.
Every agent recovers MUCH more in otherwise lost revenue to the Treasury than his salary.
So do Mafia soldiers, how come you're not worshiping them?
Thanks for the giggle.
Well, let's see, the Mafia imposes itself on its victims... and so does Congress, but with input from the rabble.
The Mafia has a strict hierarchy where the top guy takes the biggest draw... and so do we, the rich just keep getting richer.
It seems you have a point, except... the IRS is collecting on OUR behalf, not the bosses. So I'm afraid it's exactly the opposite.
Mafia soldiers are more like bankers and most judges. Both can squeeze you mercilessly unless you pay. Both deserve harsh treatment in my opinion.
So, no, I don't equate Mafia soldiers with IRS agents. Nor should you unless your some Godfather.
Sheesh, the Op is an Obama shill from his goons called his, truth squad?
Not MANY regular citizens would be singing the praises of the friggen IRS
Good gawd
You realize that joining organizations is voluntary, right?
Are you seriously equating the Rotary Club with the IRS?
Again, how old are you?
Sheesh, the Op is an Obama shill from his goons called his, truth squad?
Not MANY regular citizens would be singing the praises of the friggen IRS
Good gawd
I think he works for the IRS.....wonder what they're paying him for this??
So, in essence, you love the IRS.
So, in essence, you love the IRS.
Nobody likes paying taxes. But that's the system. Do you have any idea how many BILLIONS are lost to people who think its OK to skip on their taxes? And yet the GOP is chasing Mexicans instead of tax dodgers.
Frankly I don't think McConnell and company could run a lemonade stand without screwing it up.
