Turkish naval warships to accompany Turkish prime minister on the next aid mission

[nraforlife]

.....................
cool... there isn't a single issue where you get anything correct. ..................

If you think its that is a 99.9% assurance I am headed in the right direction. Your consistent stupidity laced with arrogant invincible ignorance makes you a pretty fair miner's canary. Your karma is to be an object lesson for others.

 

[CMike]

Israel has a legal right to have a blockade and enforce the blockade.

Yeah sure thing sport, just about as much of a 'right' as Hitler had to win the war the joos launched against Germany by any means necessary, eh. That sword of 'self-defense' cuts a lot of different ways. Or how about Iran has the legal right to acquire and USE nukes against a nuke armed State which has over and over saber rattled that arsenal to intimidate weaker States.

I'll ask you again to change your screen name so people don't associate gun owners or the NRA with ignorant stupid cocksuckers like you.

+1

He really is an embarassment.

I am a proud gun owner, and he is an embarassment.

 

[The Rabbi]

I think he's really a plant from the DNC to make us look bad.

 

[skookerasbil]

LOL..............the "Turkish Navy"!!!! My daughters bathtub collection is more formiddable!!!!

Today, the Turkish Navy (...) third largest in Europe in terms of the displacement of the total fleet, with 258,948 tons.[3][4][5]

Turkish Navy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Your daughter must have a very huge bathtub collection.

fAiL..............the blockade area is easily covered by the IDF Air Force, thus making the Turkish Navy virtually obsolete. Now......they could try something but it'd be a pretty spectacular armada on the bottom of the Medditeranean!!!

 

[ekrem]

fAiL..............the blockade area is easily covered by the IDF Air Force, thus making the Turkish Navy virtually obsolete. Now......they could try something but it'd be a pretty spectacular armada on the bottom of the Medditeranean!!!

No, the person with failed knowledge is you.
After UK and France, Turkey has highest displacement tonnage of Navy in Europe, with different ships for different roles. You described that as inferior to your daughter's bathtube collection.
Reality is, that it needs formidable efforts to sink the Navy. Navy would shoot down also Israelian Aircrafts. But kill-ratio in Navy vs. Airforce conflict is off course pro Airforce.
But,
your "Israelian Airforce making the Turkish Navy obsolete"-scenario excludes the factor of Turkish Airforce. Everything was discussed already in the thread.

Turkish Airforce is no midget:

The Turkish Air Force(...) ranks 3rd in NATO in terms of fleet size, behind the USAF and RAF.

Turkish Air Force - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Total combat Aircraft = 410.

That Airforce would be accompanied by 3rd biggest Navy of Europe, whilst Israel has only Coast Guard Navy.
Airforce+Navy = Cumulative firepower that do work-share in conflict zone.
Now go and tell someone else your irrelevant bathtube collection stories of your daughter.


Given the fact, that Israel has no option to station its Airforce in bases outside of Israel in neighbouring countries (Syria, Lebanon, Jordan, Egypt), the geographical factor leads the Israelian equipment to be located densely on ground.

 

[Shai]

I translate this from Hebrew using google i hope its thorn out ok:


Former U.S. Ambassador to Turkey: Erdogan makes the country's internal difficulties
Middle East and former U.S. Ambassador to Turkey: Erdogan makes the country's internal difficulties
Updated 14:13 05/06/2010

Conference of the Strategic Dialogue Center in Netanya tension former U.S. ambassador to Turkey, Usman Lugol's iodine, criticized the prime minister, Tayyip Erdogan, saying that choose to support the Palestinians away from Israel, which makes it difficult to Istanbul to continue to mediate between the parties in the Middle East. "He said," Erdogan's attitude to Israel is Hayslimstit worldview requires that all Islamic solidarity "
"Turkish Prime Minister Rajiv Tayyip Erdogan choose to support the Palestinians away from Israel, making it difficult for Istanbul continue to fulfill its role as a mediator between the parties in the Middle East", says today (Thursday), former U.S. ambassador to Turkey, Usman Lugol's iodine.


Erdogan. "Erdogan's attitude to Israel is his worldview Hayslimstit"
Photo: Reuters (Archive)

Conference organized by the Center for Strategic Dialogue on the Netanya Academic College Israel relations Turkey, referred to Lugol's iodine relations between Israel and the United noting that worsened the extent of military cooperation and economic level - but made it clear that Israel too has a part in that.

However, the former ambassador noted that the two countries have an interest to continue cooperation sons, among other things, that Turkey is "a key for the entire region" in the words. "Turks and Israel have a shared commitment to the future and insist Israel must continue to maintain these ties," he said.

According to Erdogan's attitude to Israel is Hayslimstit worldview requires that all Islamic solidarity and he also opposes Israel's policy towards the Palestinians, including "Operation Cast Lead.

"Erdogan was able to dismantle obsolete procedures, but as a new building"
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More Ambassador attacked the policies of Prime Minister Erdogan said that on the one hand is good Belprk procedures Anerkonissteim country but he failed in white on the other new things, causing, he declares, "many internal difficulties in Turkey."

"For Erdogan source is Islam and all around are tools designed to match his party's view of the world shaped by a deep religious faith," said Ambassador Lugol's iodine.

Turkey's current ambassador to Israel Ahmet Czech consideration, he also attended the event, said that Istanbul's regional role is growing in the Middle East and the players to be alert of his country's contribution. "Turkey to play a constructive role to promote peace in the Middle East" he added.

 

[skookerasbil]

fAiL..............the blockade area is easily covered by the IDF Air Force, thus making the Turkish Navy virtually obsolete. Now......they could try something but it'd be a pretty spectacular armada on the bottom of the Medditeranean!!!

No, the person with failed knowledge is you.
After UK and France, Turkey has highest displacement tonnage of Navy in Europe, with different ships for different roles. You described that as inferior to your daughter's bathtube collection.
Reality is, that it needs formidable efforts to sink the Navy. Navy would shoot down also Israelian Aircrafts. But kill-ratio in Navy vs. Airforce conflict is off course pro Airforce.
But,
your "Israelian Airforce making the Turkish Navy obsolete"-scenario excludes the factor of Turkish Airforce. Everything was discussed already in the thread.

Turkish Airforce is no midget:

The Turkish Air Force(...) ranks 3rd in NATO in terms of fleet size, behind the USAF and RAF.

Turkish Air Force - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Total combat Aircraft = 410.

That Airforce would be accompanied by 3rd biggest Navy of Europe, whilst Israel has only Coast Guard Navy.
Airforce+Navy = Cumulative firepower that do work-share in conflict zone.
Now go and tell someone else your irrelevant bathtube collection stories of your daughter.


Given the fact, that Israel has no option to station its Airforce in bases outside of Israel in neighbouring countries (Syria, Lebanon, Jordan, Egypt), the geographical factor leads the Israelian equipment to be located densely on ground.

The Turkish Navy!!!! LMBO...............its got about 15 frigates although only a handful are modern like the US Aegis Class = about as fomidable as my daughters bathtub navy, but could certainly kick Kuwait's ass!!! Since when does "tonnage" mean anything. In the Faulklands War in 1982, Argentina had lots of "tonnage" and got their asses kicked royally. Oh.........the rest of the Turkish Navy is a few submarines and a couple of dozen Corvettes ( kinda like row boats with guns).

My guess is that the Israeli IDF could put the entire Turkish Navy on the sea floor within an hour with missiles from mainland Israel.

 

[skookerasbil]

Israel has 25 of these.............F-151 medium bombers. Just a handful has the capability to take out the whole bathtub floatilla of the Turkish Navy!!




A derivative of the F-15 Eagle air superiority fighter, the Strike Eagle proved its worth in Desert Storm, carrying out deep strikes against high-value targets, performing "Wild Weasel" (SEAD) patrols and providing close air support for coalition troops.

Its armament..............

Missiles: Bombs



2xAIM-9M Sidewinder, 2xAIM-120 AMRAAM
B61 nuclear bomb CBU-105 SFW GBU-38
and Up to 4 AIM-7M Sparrow
or 4 additional AIM-120 AMRAAM Mark 82 bomb GBU-10
Paveway II GBU-39
Small Diameter Bomb
Up to 6 AGM-65 Maverick Mark 84 bomb GBU-12
Paveway II

AGM-130 CBU-87 CEM GBU-15

AGM-84 Harpoon CBU-89 Gator GBU-24
Paveway III

AGM-84K SLAM-ER CBU-97 SFW GBU-27
Paveway III

AGM-154 JSOW CBU-103 CEM GBU-28

AGM-158 JASSM CBU-104 Gator GBU-31




Oh and did I mention..............a range of more than 3,000 miles!!!

 

[PatekPhilippe]

fAiL..............the blockade area is easily covered by the IDF Air Force, thus making the Turkish Navy virtually obsolete. Now......they could try something but it'd be a pretty spectacular armada on the bottom of the Medditeranean!!!

No, the person with failed knowledge is you.
After UK and France, Turkey has highest displacement tonnage of Navy in Europe, with different ships for different roles. You described that as inferior to your daughter's bathtube collection.
Reality is, that it needs formidable efforts to sink the Navy. Navy would shoot down also Israelian Aircrafts. But kill-ratio in Navy vs. Airforce conflict is off course pro Airforce.
But,
your "Israelian Airforce making the Turkish Navy obsolete"-scenario excludes the factor of Turkish Airforce. Everything was discussed already in the thread.

Turkish Airforce is no midget:

The Turkish Air Force(...) ranks 3rd in NATO in terms of fleet size, behind the USAF and RAF.

Turkish Air Force - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Total combat Aircraft = 410.

That Airforce would be accompanied by 3rd biggest Navy of Europe, whilst Israel has only Coast Guard Navy.
Airforce+Navy = Cumulative firepower that do work-share in conflict zone.
Now go and tell someone else your irrelevant bathtube collection stories of your daughter.


Given the fact, that Israel has no option to station its Airforce in bases outside of Israel in neighbouring countries (Syria, Lebanon, Jordan, Egypt), the geographical factor leads the Israelian equipment to be located densely on ground.

ROFLMAO....
Iraq had a bigger Army than Turkey and we kicked their ass in 2 days...the Turkish Army will fight like they train....which means Israel will politely hand them their ass and say "Next time maybe you'll listen."

Lesson from time immemorial...:"don't mess with the Zohan.

 

[PatekPhilippe]

All they have to do is get the ZOHAN out there...and the Turks are TOAST!!!!
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCcK-QYJcSU]YouTube - You Don't Mess With the Zohan!![/ame]

 

[skookerasbil]

Turkish Navy setting sail to assist Peace Floatilla!!!!

 

[The Rabbi]

Can't be. Note the chick in the bathing suit. Strictly verboten.
Here is a real pic of the Turkish Navy sailing:

 

[Shai]

All they have to do is get the ZOHAN out there...and the Turks are TOAST!!!!
YouTube - You Don't Mess With the Zohan!!

I spill my coffee when i read that

 

[GHook93]

Turkish naval warships to accompany Turkish prime minister on the next aid mission

shit is about to get serious. turkey's army would fuck israel up. if I was israel, after much bitching, etc ( PR ), I would then let them through claiming diplomacy etc cuz PM on board

Dream on bluballs. He stated he is considering it. Nothing more than a publicity stunt. He doesn't want war and regardless of the propaganda you or ekrem states, Turkey can only match Israel in a ground battle. It will not come to that.

said to be considering sailing to the GAZA strip with an aid flotilla backed by Turkish Navy ships, international news media reported

Remember you leftist bastards though Israel would get spanked in '67 and '73. DIDN'T HAPPEN!

 

[GHook93]

Turkish naval warships to accompany Turkish prime minister on the next aid mission

shit is about to get serious. turkey's army would fuck israel up. if I was israel, after much bitching, etc ( PR ), I would then let them through claiming diplomacy etc cuz PM on board

Holy Shimolies!

Yeah, having Turkish ships of the line defending the vessels bringing humanitarian aid GAZA is certainly going to create an international crises of the highest order.

I am sure that diplomatic pouches between Washington and Ankara are stuffed to the brim, right now.

Isreal will say that Turkey's navy entering their water is a violation of their national rights, and who can argue that it isn't?

Turkey appears to be saying (should they do this) that their humanitarian mission trumps the soverign rights of Isreal and Turkey will have enormous support from humanitarians worldwide, too.

This could get very messy very quickly.

Erogan is only talking no way in hell he goes through with it. Its the same as Iran first stating they are sending their navy along with a Flotilla!

 

[saveliberty]

I give the Turkish Navy 5,000 yards into Israeli waters then its straight to the bottom.

 

[GHook93]

The Turkish Army??? Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ....Not so fast .... Israel has been at war for 50 years...Turkey is soft.

you need to check your figures. israel lost in lebanon not too long ago and turkey has the 2nd biggest military besides us if I am not mistaken. They are also extremely trained and have advanced weapons. the only thing israel has over them is nukes

Let's exam, Lebanon left in ruins, Nashrallah (Hezbollah leader) is still in hiding and fears assassination and never comes out in public. And Israel left in tactic with a few bruises.

Israel fought that war with their hands behind tied, fearful of public condemnation and found a PR war as much as they fought the war on the ground. That won't be the same way with Turkey (or Iran for that matter).

 

[Shai]

Turkish naval warships to accompany Turkish prime minister on the next aid mission

shit is about to get serious. turkey's army would fuck israel up. if I was israel, after much bitching, etc ( PR ), I would then let them through claiming diplomacy etc cuz PM on board

Holy Shimolies!

Yeah, having Turkish ships of the line defending the vessels bringing humanitarian aid GAZA is certainly going to create an international crises of the highest order.

I am sure that diplomatic pouches between Washington and Ankara are stuffed to the brim, right now.

Isreal will say that Turkey's navy entering their water is a violation of their national rights, and who can argue that it isn't?

Turkey appears to be saying (should they do this) that their humanitarian mission trumps the soverign rights of Isreal and Turkey will have enormous support from humanitarians worldwide, too.

This could get very messy very quickly.

Erogan is only talking no way in hell he goes through with it. Its the same as Iran first stating they are sending their navy along with a Flotilla!

I so hope that Iran will do that, encourage them to sent the ship, with Ahmadinejad and all his poeple on her.
Please do that.

 

[GHook93]

I wonder if anti-semitism runs so high no one afflicted with it notices that if Israel goes, the next in line to be nuked will be the US?

FUCK every single person on USMB with an anti-Israel POV.

I much prefer:

fuck israel firsters

no one is stupid enough to nuke us

So says the highschool student that have never held a job or paid taxes and is the first to ask for a socialist style hand-me-out. Your not an American, your a Venezuelan style douche bag!

 

[ErikViking]

Erogan is only talking no way in hell he goes through with it. Its the same as Iran first stating they are sending their navy along with a Flotilla!

Or any of theese:

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