Trump’s Wall Costs $21.6 Billion; Illegal Immigration Costs $148.3 Billion Per Year

[Onyx]

Why anyone would want Americans to compete with the lowest dregs of humanity in some third world hell hole is beyond me.

Now we have identified the real issue. You have what would first appear to be an irrational hatred of foreigners, but is in reality a projection of your own insecurities.

 

[Marion Morrison]

A government is absolutely supposed to protect its citizens from foreign invaders.

Because you are too much of a pussy to defend yourself? There are no arbitrary responsibilities assigned to government.

"We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence"

Constitution for the United States of America

Not sure what country you're from, but I'm an American.

I don't think you fully grasp
the amount of bloodshed that would be if Americans had to defend themselves from foreign invaders because the government refused to.

It would start with the government, then go South.

 

[bripat9643]

The douche bags who support open borders keep claiming that 40% illegals are visa overstays. That means the rest came over the border.

Let me tear down your terrible logic with common sense.

The wall would only cover half the border. It wouldn't stop immigrants from exploiting weaknesses or even creating them. Even if an immigrant couldn't cross the border conventionally, they wouldn't just sit there dumbfounded. The number that enter via plane, boat, and professional trafficking would increase.

I don't know where you get this "half the border" figure. 1700 miles is the figure I've seen discussed. The only areas that would be left out are where natural boundaries make the wall unnecessary.

Mexican peasants walk across the border because they don't have money to buy cars or pay for air fair. If they can't get across the border on foot, then they are pretty much stuck.

Here's some common sense for you: walls work. Israel has demonstrated the fact beyond all possible doubt.

Anyone who whines about the cost is automatically not to be believed. $21 billion over 4 years comes to $5.25 billion a year. The US government spends more than that on office supplies.

Whenever a snowflake starts whining about the cost of some program, you know they are full of shit. Cost is never an object when it comes to the grandiose programs they want the taxpayers to support. The talk about $trillions of dollars as if that was nothing.

 

[bripat9643]

Why anyone would want Americans to compete with the lowest dregs of humanity in some third world hell hole is beyond me.

Now we have identified the real issue. You have what would first appear to be an irrational hatred of foreigners, but is in reality a projection of your own insecurities.

You mean the way you and the other snowflakes hate the Russians?

 

[Jantje_Smit]

....The plan is simple and time-tested—China’s Great Wall did it’s job, so did Hadrian’s Wall in Roman Britain—and yet it’s come under fire from the mainstream media...

One slight problem with your "simple and time-tested" plan, the Chinese and Romans didn't build a wall to keep poor, illegal immigrants, willing to work for slave wages out (they had actual slaves for that) but to prevent their ruling 1% from being robbed by barbarians

 

[NYcarbineer]

The wall won't work. You want to stop illegal immigration? You need an all out war on the people who employ illegals,
right down to the homeowner who hires an illegal to mow his lawn.

That will never happen.

 

[Wyatt earp]

We do want the government to protect us from a flood of unskilled peasants willing to work for nothing. Why shouldn't we?

Translation: I'm upset that foreigners can out compete me, and want a socialist government to protect my entitled fat ass from the harsh realities of free market capitalism.

Illegal aliens aren't "the economy." Whenever douche bags don't want to be explicit about not giving a fuck about flesh-and-blood Americans, they start talking about an abstraction called "the economy."

You're right. The only economy that matters is the global economy. There is no abstract economy within an arbitrary set of borders, in a modern world of economic interdependence.

People like you are afraid of getting bitch slapped by the rest of the world, but closed borders wont help your stagnant economy.

Got to love your ignorant spin liberal translation device..


Hey asshole we are talking illegal immigrants... Not legal ones..


Do you even know what the fucking difference is child?

Ask your pops who used to have a job in construction industry making $25 an hour replaced by an illegal making $3.00 an hour below minimum wage



.

 

[NYcarbineer]

We do want the government to protect us from a flood of unskilled peasants willing to work for nothing. Why shouldn't we?

Translation: I'm upset that foreigners can out compete me, and want a socialist government to protect my entitled fat ass from the harsh realities of free market capitalism.

Illegal aliens aren't "the economy." Whenever douche bags don't want to be explicit about not giving a fuck about flesh-and-blood Americans, they start talking about an abstraction called "the economy."

You're right. The only economy that matters is the global economy. There is no abstract economy within an arbitrary set of borders, in a modern world of economic interdependence.

People like you are afraid of getting bitch slapped by the rest of the world, but closed borders wont help your stagnant economy.

Got to love your ignorant spin liberal translation device..


Hey asshole we are talking illegal immigrants... Not legal ones..


Do you even know what the fucking difference is child?

Ask your pops who used to have a job in construction industry making $25 an hour replaced by an illegal making $3.00 an hour below minimum wage



.

So when legal immigrant doctors take American jobs that's somehow better?

 

[bripat9643]

The wall won't work. You want to stop illegal immigration? You need an all out war on the people who employ illegals,
right down to the homeowner who hires an illegal to mow his lawn.

That will never happen.

The wall will work. It works everywhere it's tried. Sovling the problem after they have already entered the country is orders of magnitude less likely to be successful. Of course, that's exactly why you propose it.

 

[bripat9643]

....The plan is simple and time-tested—China’s Great Wall did it’s job, so did Hadrian’s Wall in Roman Britain—and yet it’s come under fire from the mainstream media...

One slight problem with your "simple and time-tested" plan, the Chinese and Romans didn't build a wall to keep poor, illegal immigrants, willing to work for slave wages out (they had actual slaves for that) but to prevent their ruling 1% from being robbed by barbarians

Which is easier, keeping out some ignorant peasants, or keeping out some well trained armies bent on conquest?

 

[Norman]

We've all heard the snowflake lies about the cost of the wall and the cost of illegal immigration. Here's a more credible examination of the facts.

Trump's Wall Costs $21.6 Billion; Illegal Immigration Costs $148.3 Billion Per Year—Do The Math | National Economics Editorial​

President Donald Trump announced that he will fulfill his campaign promise to build a nearly 2,000 mile long wall (not a fence) along America’s southern border with Mexico.

The idea is that a physical barrier will act as a low-cost deterrent, and will help stem the flow of illegal immigrants entering America via Mexico—the hope is that once an illegal alien (particularly a criminal migrant) is deported, they won’t return.

The plan is simple and time-tested—China’s Great Wall did it’s job, so did Hadrian’s Wall in Roman Britain—and yet it’s come under fire from the mainstream media.

They claim that the wall will be prohibitively expensive, that illegal immigrants contribute to America’s economy (so there’s no reason to deport them), and that the wall won’t work.

They’re factually wrong on all accounts—let’s look at the numbers.

How Much Will Trump’s Wall Cost? $21.6 Billion.
The first question we must address is very straightforward: how much would it cost to build a wall along the Mexican border?

We don’t know for sure (construction costs rarely align with initial estimates), but we have a few good estimates.

Senate leader Mitch McConnell said Congress estimates the wall will cost $15 billion at most—he said it would likely fall within a range of $12 to $15 billion.

However, according to more recent information acquired by Reuters, the border wall will cost $21.6 billion, and will take roughly 3.5 years to build. This is according to a document from the Department of Homeland Security.

It’s probably our best current estimate, and this article will proceed under using this cost assumption.

On the high end (which can’t be totally discounted, given the nature of construction projects), the left-wing advocacy group cum “newspaper” the Huffington Post said the wall would cost roughly $40 billion. Their evidence is based on a study done by MIT (although their assumptions about the size and building materials may be why the projection is so high).

Either way, the cost of the wall pales in comparison to the cost of illegal immigrants in America.

. . . . . . . .​

Obama spent almost 800 billion on infrastructure in one year. Every lefty was of the opinion that deficits don't matter and Obama should spend even more to stimulate demand. Paul Krugman even suggested that we should fake an alien invasion so Obama could spend more on digging and then filling ditches.

Now that Trump is proposing a measly 20 billion infrastructure project - the lefties are FURIOUS. Outrageous spending!!!

 

[KissMy]

We've all heard the snowflake lies about the cost of the wall and the cost of illegal immigration. Here's a more credible examination of the facts.

Trump's Wall Costs $21.6 Billion; Illegal Immigration Costs $148.3 Billion Per Year—Do The Math | National Economics Editorial​

President Donald Trump announced that he will fulfill his campaign promise to build a nearly 2,000 mile long wall (not a fence) along America’s southern border with Mexico.

The idea is that a physical barrier will act as a low-cost deterrent, and will help stem the flow of illegal immigrants entering America via Mexico—the hope is that once an illegal alien (particularly a criminal migrant) is deported, they won’t return.

The plan is simple and time-tested—China’s Great Wall did it’s job, so did Hadrian’s Wall in Roman Britain—and yet it’s come under fire from the mainstream media.

They claim that the wall will be prohibitively expensive, that illegal immigrants contribute to America’s economy (so there’s no reason to deport them), and that the wall won’t work.

They’re factually wrong on all accounts—let’s look at the numbers.

How Much Will Trump’s Wall Cost? $21.6 Billion.
The first question we must address is very straightforward: how much would it cost to build a wall along the Mexican border?

We don’t know for sure (construction costs rarely align with initial estimates), but we have a few good estimates.

Senate leader Mitch McConnell said Congress estimates the wall will cost $15 billion at most—he said it would likely fall within a range of $12 to $15 billion.

However, according to more recent information acquired by Reuters, the border wall will cost $21.6 billion, and will take roughly 3.5 years to build. This is according to a document from the Department of Homeland Security.

It’s probably our best current estimate, and this article will proceed under using this cost assumption.

On the high end (which can’t be totally discounted, given the nature of construction projects), the left-wing advocacy group cum “newspaper” the Huffington Post said the wall would cost roughly $40 billion. Their evidence is based on a study done by MIT (although their assumptions about the size and building materials may be why the projection is so high).

Either way, the cost of the wall pales in comparison to the cost of illegal immigrants in America.

. . . . . . . .​

More fake news.

I know many Mexicans & every one of them works their ass off. I haven't found one yet that was on the government dole. Lazy Mexicans don't run across a huge brutal desert to get hard labor jobs.

 

[bripat9643]

We've all heard the snowflake lies about the cost of the wall and the cost of illegal immigration. Here's a more credible examination of the facts.

Trump's Wall Costs $21.6 Billion; Illegal Immigration Costs $148.3 Billion Per Year—Do The Math | National Economics Editorial​

President Donald Trump announced that he will fulfill his campaign promise to build a nearly 2,000 mile long wall (not a fence) along America’s southern border with Mexico.

The idea is that a physical barrier will act as a low-cost deterrent, and will help stem the flow of illegal immigrants entering America via Mexico—the hope is that once an illegal alien (particularly a criminal migrant) is deported, they won’t return.

The plan is simple and time-tested—China’s Great Wall did it’s job, so did Hadrian’s Wall in Roman Britain—and yet it’s come under fire from the mainstream media.

They claim that the wall will be prohibitively expensive, that illegal immigrants contribute to America’s economy (so there’s no reason to deport them), and that the wall won’t work.

They’re factually wrong on all accounts—let’s look at the numbers.

How Much Will Trump’s Wall Cost? $21.6 Billion.
The first question we must address is very straightforward: how much would it cost to build a wall along the Mexican border?

We don’t know for sure (construction costs rarely align with initial estimates), but we have a few good estimates.

Senate leader Mitch McConnell said Congress estimates the wall will cost $15 billion at most—he said it would likely fall within a range of $12 to $15 billion.

However, according to more recent information acquired by Reuters, the border wall will cost $21.6 billion, and will take roughly 3.5 years to build. This is according to a document from the Department of Homeland Security.

It’s probably our best current estimate, and this article will proceed under using this cost assumption.

On the high end (which can’t be totally discounted, given the nature of construction projects), the left-wing advocacy group cum “newspaper” the Huffington Post said the wall would cost roughly $40 billion. Their evidence is based on a study done by MIT (although their assumptions about the size and building materials may be why the projection is so high).

Either way, the cost of the wall pales in comparison to the cost of illegal immigrants in America.

. . . . . . . .​

More fake news.

I know many Mexicans & every one of them works their ass off. I haven't found one yet that was on the government dole.

I've stood behind Mexican women in the grocery store who were using food stamps, and they didn't speak a word of English. One was buying diapers for her anchor baby.

 

[KissMy]

We've all heard the snowflake lies about the cost of the wall and the cost of illegal immigration. Here's a more credible examination of the facts.

Trump's Wall Costs $21.6 Billion; Illegal Immigration Costs $148.3 Billion Per Year—Do The Math | National Economics Editorial​

President Donald Trump announced that he will fulfill his campaign promise to build a nearly 2,000 mile long wall (not a fence) along America’s southern border with Mexico.

The idea is that a physical barrier will act as a low-cost deterrent, and will help stem the flow of illegal immigrants entering America via Mexico—the hope is that once an illegal alien (particularly a criminal migrant) is deported, they won’t return.

The plan is simple and time-tested—China’s Great Wall did it’s job, so did Hadrian’s Wall in Roman Britain—and yet it’s come under fire from the mainstream media.

They claim that the wall will be prohibitively expensive, that illegal immigrants contribute to America’s economy (so there’s no reason to deport them), and that the wall won’t work.

They’re factually wrong on all accounts—let’s look at the numbers.

How Much Will Trump’s Wall Cost? $21.6 Billion.
The first question we must address is very straightforward: how much would it cost to build a wall along the Mexican border?

We don’t know for sure (construction costs rarely align with initial estimates), but we have a few good estimates.

Senate leader Mitch McConnell said Congress estimates the wall will cost $15 billion at most—he said it would likely fall within a range of $12 to $15 billion.

However, according to more recent information acquired by Reuters, the border wall will cost $21.6 billion, and will take roughly 3.5 years to build. This is according to a document from the Department of Homeland Security.

It’s probably our best current estimate, and this article will proceed under using this cost assumption.

On the high end (which can’t be totally discounted, given the nature of construction projects), the left-wing advocacy group cum “newspaper” the Huffington Post said the wall would cost roughly $40 billion. Their evidence is based on a study done by MIT (although their assumptions about the size and building materials may be why the projection is so high).

Either way, the cost of the wall pales in comparison to the cost of illegal immigrants in America.

. . . . . . . .​

More fake news.

I know many Mexicans & every one of them works their ass off. I haven't found one yet that was on the government dole.

I've stood behind Mexican women in the grocery store who were using food stamps, and they didn't speak a word of English. One was buying diapers for her anchor baby.

I don't believe you. Next time take video & ask her if she crossed the desert to get food stamps.

 

[Jantje_Smit]

Which is easier, keeping out some ignorant peasants, or keeping out some well trained armies bent on conquest?

You're missing the point comrade, there is a demand for those ignorant peasants and they will keep coming as long as somebody is willing to hire them. A wall isn't going to stop them since they can simply bring shovels or ladders with them to the promised land (and it's a lot easier for a few immigrants to sneak in under the cover of darkness than it would be for an entire army)

 

[bripat9643]

We've all heard the snowflake lies about the cost of the wall and the cost of illegal immigration. Here's a more credible examination of the facts.

Trump's Wall Costs $21.6 Billion; Illegal Immigration Costs $148.3 Billion Per Year—Do The Math | National Economics Editorial​

President Donald Trump announced that he will fulfill his campaign promise to build a nearly 2,000 mile long wall (not a fence) along America’s southern border with Mexico.

The idea is that a physical barrier will act as a low-cost deterrent, and will help stem the flow of illegal immigrants entering America via Mexico—the hope is that once an illegal alien (particularly a criminal migrant) is deported, they won’t return.

The plan is simple and time-tested—China’s Great Wall did it’s job, so did Hadrian’s Wall in Roman Britain—and yet it’s come under fire from the mainstream media.

They claim that the wall will be prohibitively expensive, that illegal immigrants contribute to America’s economy (so there’s no reason to deport them), and that the wall won’t work.

They’re factually wrong on all accounts—let’s look at the numbers.

How Much Will Trump’s Wall Cost? $21.6 Billion.
The first question we must address is very straightforward: how much would it cost to build a wall along the Mexican border?

We don’t know for sure (construction costs rarely align with initial estimates), but we have a few good estimates.

Senate leader Mitch McConnell said Congress estimates the wall will cost $15 billion at most—he said it would likely fall within a range of $12 to $15 billion.

However, according to more recent information acquired by Reuters, the border wall will cost $21.6 billion, and will take roughly 3.5 years to build. This is according to a document from the Department of Homeland Security.

It’s probably our best current estimate, and this article will proceed under using this cost assumption.

On the high end (which can’t be totally discounted, given the nature of construction projects), the left-wing advocacy group cum “newspaper” the Huffington Post said the wall would cost roughly $40 billion. Their evidence is based on a study done by MIT (although their assumptions about the size and building materials may be why the projection is so high).

Either way, the cost of the wall pales in comparison to the cost of illegal immigrants in America.

. . . . . . . .​

More fake news.

I know many Mexicans & every one of them works their ass off. I haven't found one yet that was on the government dole.

I've stood behind Mexican women in the grocery store who were using food stamps, and they didn't speak a word of English. One was buying diapers for her anchor baby.

I don't believe you. Next time take video & ask her if she crossed the desert to get food stamps.

Yeah, right.

What a fucking jackass.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Illegal immigrants in America pay more in taxes than they receive in state benefits. The net economic benefit that they provide through working is also positive.

You should stop sourcing information from openly biased op-ed media. In other words, stop using fake news.

Does that include the welfare and unemployment benefits of Americans who lost their jobs to illegals?

Baghdad Bripat, just who lost jobs to illegals? Give us names, places, and locations, please.

 

[bripat9643]

Which is easier, keeping out some ignorant peasants, or keeping out some well trained armies bent on conquest?

You're missing the point comrade, there is a demand for those ignorant peasants and they will keep coming as long as somebody is willing to hire them. A wall isn't going to stop them since they can simply bring shovels or ladders with them to the promised land (and it's a lot easier for a few immigrants to sneak in under the cover of darkness than it would be for an entire army)

Yeah, a lot of people want to hire them . . . . . for 1/4 the wage they would have to pay an American .

You are the one who doesn't get it.

Why do you snowflakes always assume no one will be guarding the wall? Do you believe the government is really that stupid?

 

[JoeB131]

We've all heard the snowflake lies about the cost of the wall and the cost of illegal immigration. Here's a more credible examination of the facts.

Economic impact of illegal immigrants in the United States - Wikipedia

Economic activity produced by illegal immigrant spending employs about 5% of the total US workforce. Illegal immigrants occupy over 3 million dwellings, or just under 4% of the total number of homes in the US. UCLA research indicates immigrants produce $150 billion of economic activity equivalent to spending stimulus every year. The advantages of illegal migration tend mostly to be on the side of the employer. An employer will benefit from the illegal status of a migrant who is desperate for work and therefore prepared to accept poor pay, usually below local norms. Hiring an illegal worker also brings the employer the advantage of paying less in the way of welfare contributions and other non-wage costs

 

[JoeB131]

Yeah, a lot of people want to hire them . . . . . for 1/4 the wage they would have to pay an American .

You are the one who doesn't get it.

Why do you snowflakes always assume no one will be guarding the wall? Do you believe the government is really that stupid?

Naw, just people who think a wall is a good idea.

Here's the thing. Most illegal aliens didn't sneak under a fence. They came here on valid tourist, students or work visas that expired and they just hung around.