Trump’s Wall Costs $21.6 Billion; Illegal Immigration Costs $148.3 Billion Per Year

[Onyx]

Importing cheap labor from the third world leads to a third world standard of living for Americans.

That isn't actually a real correlation. Almost every first world country today has experienced large waves of third world immigration in the past.

 

[JQPublic1]

Like most proud Americans i hated the idea of illegals coming here to "take our jobs." However, the more I looked at the work they do and the impact of mass deportation, I realized just how important most of them are to the health of our economy.



undocumented workers make up around 67% of farm laborers. Their low salaries keep prices of crops and vegetables down.



The National Milk Producer's Federation forecasted a 61% increase in the cost of milk if their low cost labor pool dried up.



They contributed close to 300 billion in payroll tax to the Social Security trust Fund.



From the perspective of any notable economist, the undocumented worker is helping to maintain our way of life more than they are hindering it!

 

[Onyx]

From the perspective of any notable economist, the undocumented worker is helping to maintain our way of life more than they are hindering it!

Most economists gravitate towards free trade and full immigration.

 

[Brain357]

“But We Need Illegal Immigration To Grow The Economy”
Some argue that we need illegal immigration to grow the economy and maintain our quality of life. They’re wrong.

Why?

1. It’s simply untrue. Just look at places like Japan. Japan has very little immigration, and yet is able to maintain its high standard of living by investing in better technology, and becoming more efficient. They can still afford their morning cup of coffee, don’t worry.

This guy serious? Japan's economy been stagnant forever.

 

[Brain357]

Since the wall won't work, isn't that just adding to the cost?

 

[JQPublic1]

We've all heard the snowflake lies about the cost of the wall and the cost of illegal immigration. Here's a more credible examination of the facts.

Trump's Wall Costs $21.6 Billion; Illegal Immigration Costs $148.3 Billion Per Year—Do The Math | National Economics Editorial​

President Donald Trump announced that he will fulfill his campaign promise to build a nearly 2,000 mile long wall (not a fence) along America’s southern border with Mexico.

The idea is that a physical barrier will act as a low-cost deterrent, and will help stem the flow of illegal immigrants entering America via Mexico—the hope is that once an illegal alien (particularly a criminal migrant) is deported, they won’t return.

The plan is simple and time-tested—China’s Great Wall did it’s job, so did Hadrian’s Wall in Roman Britain—and yet it’s come under fire from the mainstream media.

They claim that the wall will be prohibitively expensive, that illegal immigrants contribute to America’s economy (so there’s no reason to deport them), and that the wall won’t work.

They’re factually wrong on all accounts—let’s look at the numbers.

How Much Will Trump’s Wall Cost? $21.6 Billion.
The first question we must address is very straightforward: how much would it cost to build a wall along the Mexican border?

We don’t know for sure (construction costs rarely align with initial estimates), but we have a few good estimates.

Senate leader Mitch McConnell said Congress estimates the wall will cost $15 billion at most—he said it would likely fall within a range of $12 to $15 billion.

However, according to more recent information acquired by Reuters, the border wall will cost $21.6 billion, and will take roughly 3.5 years to build. This is according to a document from the Department of Homeland Security.

It’s probably our best current estimate, and this article will proceed under using this cost assumption.

On the high end (which can’t be totally discounted, given the nature of construction projects), the left-wing advocacy group cum “newspaper” the Huffington Post said the wall would cost roughly $40 billion. Their evidence is based on a study done by MIT (although their assumptions about the size and building materials may be why the projection is so high).

Either way, the cost of the wall pales in comparison to the cost of illegal immigrants in America.

. . . . . . . .​

The wall won't stop anyone. It won't even cover the entire border. It's hard to pick the worst idea of Trump's but with the cost and xenophobia... it's right at the top. That's until he fakes a serious situation in the world and starts a war to save his presidency.
In case you don't know... the intelligence committee has stated it's not just conjecture anymore with Trump's treasonous acts with Russia... they have solid evidence. They're sweating bullets in the White House like a whore in church. This wall won't be built because he won't last that long to build it. The shit is going to hit the fan soon with the intellectual committee's report that will never permit you to say " fake Russian connection " ever again. Remember this post when the sky comes crashing down on Trump and you deplorables.

They have solid evidence of what? That Russia leaked evidence to the press that Hillary was a corrupt lying bitch....and what was wrong with that?

My problem with that is the Russians didn't leak evidence to the press that Trump is a corrupt lying bitch... a lot is wrong with that! But I guess they didn't have to. Corrupt, narcissistic Trump can tell blatant lie after blatant lie and people like you don't care.

 

[Brain357]

I don't see where he countered the costs with the benefits of the cheap labor? Do we all want to pay more for food?

 

[JQPublic1]

Since the wall won't work, isn't that just adding to the cost?

And the walls of Jericho came tumbling down!

 

[Brain357]

Since the wall won't work, isn't that just adding to the cost?

And the walls of Jericho came tumbling down!

I believe the wall will be 30' tall...
Werner 40 ft. Aluminum Extension Ladder with 250 lb. Load Capacity Type I Duty Rating-D1340-2 - The Home Depot

 

[Onyx]

“But We Need Illegal Immigration To Grow The Economy”
Some argue that we need illegal immigration to grow the economy and maintain our quality of life. They’re wrong.

Why?

1. It’s simply untrue. Just look at places like Japan. Japan has very little immigration, and yet is able to maintain its high standard of living by investing in better technology, and becoming more efficient. They can still afford their morning cup of coffee, don’t worry.

.

Yeah, what a dumb argument!

Let's just ignore the fact that it is attempting to invalidate an entire argument by citing an unrelated anecdote. Japan has 240% gross debt to GDP, and its 1.6% GDP growth is not good for a developed country (2.0% is healthy).

 

[Wyatt earp]

We've all heard the snowflake lies about the cost of the wall and the cost of illegal immigration. Here's a more credible examination of the facts.

Trump's Wall Costs $21.6 Billion; Illegal Immigration Costs $148.3 Billion Per Year—Do The Math | National Economics Editorial​

President Donald Trump announced that he will fulfill his campaign promise to build a nearly 2,000 mile long wall (not a fence) along America’s southern border with Mexico.

The idea is that a physical barrier will act as a low-cost deterrent, and will help stem the flow of illegal immigrants entering America via Mexico—the hope is that once an illegal alien (particularly a criminal migrant) is deported, they won’t return.

The plan is simple and time-tested—China’s Great Wall did it’s job, so did Hadrian’s Wall in Roman Britain—and yet it’s come under fire from the mainstream media.

They claim that the wall will be prohibitively expensive, that illegal immigrants contribute to America’s economy (so there’s no reason to deport them), and that the wall won’t work.

They’re factually wrong on all accounts—let’s look at the numbers.

How Much Will Trump’s Wall Cost? $21.6 Billion.
The first question we must address is very straightforward: how much would it cost to build a wall along the Mexican border?

We don’t know for sure (construction costs rarely align with initial estimates), but we have a few good estimates.

Senate leader Mitch McConnell said Congress estimates the wall will cost $15 billion at most—he said it would likely fall within a range of $12 to $15 billion.

However, according to more recent information acquired by Reuters, the border wall will cost $21.6 billion, and will take roughly 3.5 years to build. This is according to a document from the Department of Homeland Security.

It’s probably our best current estimate, and this article will proceed under using this cost assumption.

On the high end (which can’t be totally discounted, given the nature of construction projects), the left-wing advocacy group cum “newspaper” the Huffington Post said the wall would cost roughly $40 billion. Their evidence is based on a study done by MIT (although their assumptions about the size and building materials may be why the projection is so high).

Either way, the cost of the wall pales in comparison to the cost of illegal immigrants in America.

. . . . . . . .​

The wall won't stop anyone. It won't even cover the entire border. It's hard to pick the worst idea of Trump's but with the cost and xenophobia... it's right at the top. That's until he fakes a serious situation in the world and starts a war to save his presidency.
In case you don't know... the intelligence committee has stated it's not just conjecture anymore with Trump's treasonous acts with Russia... they have solid evidence. They're sweating bullets in the White House like a whore in church. This wall won't be built because he won't last that long to build it. The shit is going to hit the fan soon with the intellectual committee's report that will never permit you to say " fake Russian connection " ever again. Remember this post when the sky comes crashing down on Trump and you deplorables.

They have solid evidence of what? That Russia leaked evidence to the press that Hillary was a corrupt lying bitch....and what was wrong with that?

My problem with that is the Russians didn't leak evidence to the press that Trump is a corrupt lying bitch... a lot is wrong with that! But I guess they didn't have to. Corrupt, narcissistic Trump can tell blatant lie after blatant lie and people like you don't care.

Trumps lie didn't cost my health insurance to go up 100% never had any for like 20 years

Trumps lies is just about playing you guys at your own game and it drives you liberals all insane. Which I approve of....

 

[bripat9643]

Importing cheap labor from the third world leads to a third world standard of living for Americans.

That isn't actually a real correlation. Almost every first world country today has experienced large waves of third world immigration in the past.

It's not a correlation. It's simply noting the conclusion of the laws of economics. A bigger supply of unskilled labor means lower wages.No legitimate economist would argue with that.

 

[JQPublic1]

We've all heard the snowflake lies about the cost of the wall and the cost of illegal immigration. Here's a more credible examination of the facts.

Trump's Wall Costs $21.6 Billion; Illegal Immigration Costs $148.3 Billion Per Year—Do The Math | National Economics Editorial​

President Donald Trump announced that he will fulfill his campaign promise to build a nearly 2,000 mile long wall (not a fence) along America’s southern border with Mexico.

The idea is that a physical barrier will act as a low-cost deterrent, and will help stem the flow of illegal immigrants entering America via Mexico—the hope is that once an illegal alien (particularly a criminal migrant) is deported, they won’t return.

The plan is simple and time-tested—China’s Great Wall did it’s job, so did Hadrian’s Wall in Roman Britain—and yet it’s come under fire from the mainstream media.

They claim that the wall will be prohibitively expensive, that illegal immigrants contribute to America’s economy (so there’s no reason to deport them), and that the wall won’t work.

They’re factually wrong on all accounts—let’s look at the numbers.

How Much Will Trump’s Wall Cost? $21.6 Billion.
The first question we must address is very straightforward: how much would it cost to build a wall along the Mexican border?

We don’t know for sure (construction costs rarely align with initial estimates), but we have a few good estimates.

Senate leader Mitch McConnell said Congress estimates the wall will cost $15 billion at most—he said it would likely fall within a range of $12 to $15 billion.

However, according to more recent information acquired by Reuters, the border wall will cost $21.6 billion, and will take roughly 3.5 years to build. This is according to a document from the Department of Homeland Security.

It’s probably our best current estimate, and this article will proceed under using this cost assumption.

On the high end (which can’t be totally discounted, given the nature of construction projects), the left-wing advocacy group cum “newspaper” the Huffington Post said the wall would cost roughly $40 billion. Their evidence is based on a study done by MIT (although their assumptions about the size and building materials may be why the projection is so high).

Either way, the cost of the wall pales in comparison to the cost of illegal immigrants in America.

. . . . . . . .​

The wall won't stop anyone. It won't even cover the entire border. It's hard to pick the worst idea of Trump's but with the cost and xenophobia... it's right at the top. That's until he fakes a serious situation in the world and starts a war to save his presidency.
In case you don't know... the intelligence committee has stated it's not just conjecture anymore with Trump's treasonous acts with Russia... they have solid evidence. They're sweating bullets in the White House like a whore in church. This wall won't be built because he won't last that long to build it. The shit is going to hit the fan soon with the intellectual committee's report that will never permit you to say " fake Russian connection " ever again. Remember this post when the sky comes crashing down on Trump and you deplorables.

They have solid evidence of what? That Russia leaked evidence to the press that Hillary was a corrupt lying bitch....and what was wrong with that?

My problem with that is the Russians didn't leak evidence to the press that Trump is a corrupt lying bitch... a lot is wrong with that! But I guess they didn't have to. Corrupt, narcissistic Trump can tell blatant lie after blatant lie and people like you don't care.

Trumps lie didn't cost my health insurance to go up 100% never had any for like 20 years

Trumps lies is just about playing you guys at your own game and it drives you liberals all insane. Which I approve of....

Hunh???

Hunh? WhatCHA SAY???? You admit Trump lies???? Hunh????

 

[bripat9643]

From the perspective of any notable economist, the undocumented worker is helping to maintain our way of life more than they are hindering it!

Most economists gravitate towards free trade and full immigration.

Economists don't have to compete with unskilled labor.

 

[bripat9643]

I don't see where he countered the costs with the benefits of the cheap labor? Do we all want to pay more for food?

Most illegal aliens are working in trades like construction and truck driving.

 

[Brain357]

I don't see where he countered the costs with the benefits of the cheap labor? Do we all want to pay more for food?

Most illegal aliens are working in trades like construction and truck driving.

Do we want to pay more for houses and shipping?

 

[Brain357]

Since they are living here and spending here, what about the effects of the loss of this spending?

 

[bripat9643]

We've all heard the snowflake lies about the cost of the wall and the cost of illegal immigration. Here's a more credible examination of the facts.

Trump's Wall Costs $21.6 Billion; Illegal Immigration Costs $148.3 Billion Per Year—Do The Math | National Economics Editorial​

President Donald Trump announced that he will fulfill his campaign promise to build a nearly 2,000 mile long wall (not a fence) along America’s southern border with Mexico.

The idea is that a physical barrier will act as a low-cost deterrent, and will help stem the flow of illegal immigrants entering America via Mexico—the hope is that once an illegal alien (particularly a criminal migrant) is deported, they won’t return.

The plan is simple and time-tested—China’s Great Wall did it’s job, so did Hadrian’s Wall in Roman Britain—and yet it’s come under fire from the mainstream media.

They claim that the wall will be prohibitively expensive, that illegal immigrants contribute to America’s economy (so there’s no reason to deport them), and that the wall won’t work.

They’re factually wrong on all accounts—let’s look at the numbers.

How Much Will Trump’s Wall Cost? $21.6 Billion.
The first question we must address is very straightforward: how much would it cost to build a wall along the Mexican border?

We don’t know for sure (construction costs rarely align with initial estimates), but we have a few good estimates.

Senate leader Mitch McConnell said Congress estimates the wall will cost $15 billion at most—he said it would likely fall within a range of $12 to $15 billion.

However, according to more recent information acquired by Reuters, the border wall will cost $21.6 billion, and will take roughly 3.5 years to build. This is according to a document from the Department of Homeland Security.

It’s probably our best current estimate, and this article will proceed under using this cost assumption.

On the high end (which can’t be totally discounted, given the nature of construction projects), the left-wing advocacy group cum “newspaper” the Huffington Post said the wall would cost roughly $40 billion. Their evidence is based on a study done by MIT (although their assumptions about the size and building materials may be why the projection is so high).

Either way, the cost of the wall pales in comparison to the cost of illegal immigrants in America.

. . . . . . . .​

The wall won't stop anyone. It won't even cover the entire border. It's hard to pick the worst idea of Trump's but with the cost and xenophobia... it's right at the top. That's until he fakes a serious situation in the world and starts a war to save his presidency.
In case you don't know... the intelligence committee has stated it's not just conjecture anymore with Trump's treasonous acts with Russia... they have solid evidence. They're sweating bullets in the White House like a whore in church. This wall won't be built because he won't last that long to build it. The shit is going to hit the fan soon with the intellectual committee's report that will never permit you to say " fake Russian connection " ever again. Remember this post when the sky comes crashing down on Trump and you deplorables.

They have solid evidence of what? That Russia leaked evidence to the press that Hillary was a corrupt lying bitch....and what was wrong with that?

My problem with that is the Russians didn't leak evidence to the press that Trump is a corrupt lying bitch... a lot is wrong with that! But I guess they didn't have to. Corrupt, narcissistic Trump can tell blatant lie after blatant lie and people like you don't care.

Trumps lie didn't cost my health insurance to go up 100% never had any for like 20 years

Trumps lies is just about playing you guys at your own game and it drives you liberals all insane. Which I approve of....

Hunh???

Hunh? WhatCHA SAY???? You admit Trump lies???? Hunh????

The plans on the left have coverage for drugs, office visit, tests, and a low deductible of $1,500 to $2000. The plans on the right don't cover drugs or office visits and have a deductible of $6,500 or more.

 

[bripat9643]

I don't see where he countered the costs with the benefits of the cheap labor? Do we all want to pay more for food?

Most illegal aliens are working in trades like construction and truck driving.

Do we want to pay more for houses and shipping?

Ask the guy who has been unemployed for 5 years.

 

[Care4all]

interesting read

Do Illegal Immigrants Actually Hurt the U.S. Economy?