Trump's high wire act

[Dragonlady]

The media and the left are trying to make some great scandal out of every little thing

It's becoming tiresome

But you fall for it every single time - if the purported scandal favours your side. You believed every lie about Hillary, gleefully, and ignore the truth about Trump.

The problem isn't the scandals, it's the fake scandals, like Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi.

 

[Iceweasel]

The media and the left are trying to make some great scandal out of every little thing It's becoming tiresome

Yeah, they'll do that. But beyond the fluff, digging down to what actually happens, are you comfortable with the risks?
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There is always risks, give the man a chance. He hasnt been in office a month and heads explode if he takes a shit.

Its becoming stupid.

He has been in the office a month and the world no longer is looking at the United States as a leader. Countries are developing policies on how to deal with the United States.

Ah, the representative of Earth has spoken!

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Long term, though, the country will continue to drift left for no other reason than population trends are making America less white.

Which is why the Democrats are working night and day to make whites a minority in this country as quickly as they can. Once they do that, we would be a one-party government for eternity, and we would only have our surrender-first whites to blame.

 

[NoNukes]

The media and the left are trying to make some great scandal out of every little thing

It's becoming tiresome

What is tiresome is that there is so much to comment on. It is a fucking circus and people are finding it a bit hard to believe what is happening.

We are celebrating you fascists falling....I can imaging what's going on is confusing to you.....

Idiots like you are responsible for the destruction that is happening.

Destruction of liberalism. So hell yeah, I'll take some credit if I can!

Destruction of the United States, and you guys are all for it.

 

[Rustic]

A question for Trump voters/supporters: How comfortable are you with the risks of his presidency?

I'll flesh this out a bit:

It has long been the nature of politics that the pendulum swings - if this party fouls it up, we'll give the other party a chance. And, at least in recent history, the pendulum has swung pretty hard in the opposite direction.

Let's agree that the two parties are as divided as we have seen. And let's consider the possibility that Trump & Co screw the pooch, big time. That's not a prediction, I'm horrible at those, just a thought exercise.

Trump has taken our political environment so far off the rails - and I believe that was the point, yes? - that the snap-back that would result from his administration's failure would be pretty freaking powerful. The GOP brand would be TORCHED for a LONG time, and we would head Left, BIG time.

In other words, this thing really is all or nothing. Are you okay with that?
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The vast majority of Americans dont watch and/or dont care about politics, if the economy recovers... like slick willy said - "its the economy stupid"

 

[SassyIrishLass]

The media and the left are trying to make some great scandal out of every little thing

It's becoming tiresome

But you fall for it every single time - if the purported scandal favours your side. You believed every lie about Hillary, gleefully, and ignore the truth about Trump.

The problem isn't the scandals, it's the fake scandals, like Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi.

Another annoyance..and a Canadian at that. Worry about your own country

 

[Iceweasel]

The media and the left are trying to make some great scandal out of every little thing

It's becoming tiresome

But you fall for it every single time - if the purported scandal favours your side. You believed every lie about Hillary, gleefully, and ignore the truth about Trump.

The problem isn't the scandals, it's the fake scandals, like Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi.

Nothing fake about people dying due to government incompetence, Sugarpuss.

 

[owebo]

The media and the left are trying to make some great scandal out of every little thing It's becoming tiresome

Yeah, they'll do that. But beyond the fluff, digging down to what actually happens, are you comfortable with the risks?
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There is always risks, give the man a chance. He hasnt been in office a month and heads explode if he takes a shit.

Its becoming stupid.

He has been in the office a month and the world no longer is looking at the United States as a leader. Countries are developing policies on how to deal with the United States.

Yep.....we've stopped leading from behind....glad you noticed!!!!

 

[owebo]

The media and the left are trying to make some great scandal out of every little thing

It's becoming tiresome

What is tiresome is that there is so much to comment on. It is a fucking circus and people are finding it a bit hard to believe what is happening.

We are celebrating you fascists falling....I can imaging what's going on is confusing to you.....

Idiots like you are responsible for the destruction that is happening.

Destruction of liberalism. So hell yeah, I'll take some credit if I can!

Destruction of the United States, and you guys are all for it.

Yes, destruction of your fascism here.....

 

[Mac1958]

And predicting any failures at this point is just weird. Did you do that to Obama? My guess is no.

I realize how people like you, on both ends of the spectrum, just like to make stuff up. But I did go out of my way to write "that's not a prediction, I'm horrible at those, just a thought exercise" but somehow you "didn't see" that.

If you don't want to provide a straight and honest answer to my clear question, you don't need to. The fact that you don't want to is telling in itself.
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[Norman]

A question for Trump voters/supporters: How comfortable are you with the risks of his presidency?

I'll flesh this out a bit:

It has long been the nature of politics that the pendulum swings - if this party fouls it up, we'll give the other party a chance. And, at least in recent history, the pendulum has swung pretty hard in the opposite direction.

Let's agree that the two parties are as divided as we have seen. And let's consider the possibility that Trump & Co screw the pooch, big time. That's not a prediction, I'm horrible at those, just a thought exercise.

Trump has taken our political environment so far off the rails - and I believe that was the point, yes? - that the snap-back that would result from his administration's failure would be pretty freaking powerful. The GOP brand would be TORCHED for a LONG time, and we would head Left, BIG time.

In other words, this thing really is all or nothing. Are you okay with that?
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I view Trump as a response to the left taking things way too far. Now, their attempts at controlling speech and manipulating opinions has backfired big time. The party is torched, because of the far left regressive infiltration.

As predicted, the left is doubling down, and people are waking up to the fact that they are outright lying about almost everything they are saying about Trump or just about anybody else. PewDiePie is a Nazi now, really, huh? They will keep doubling down and destroying themselves, once and for all.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

A question for Trump voters/supporters: How comfortable are you with the risks of his presidency?

I'll flesh this out a bit:

It has long been the nature of politics that the pendulum swings - if this party fouls it up, we'll give the other party a chance. And, at least in recent history, the pendulum has swung pretty hard in the opposite direction.

Let's agree that the two parties are as divided as we have seen. And let's consider the possibility that Trump & Co screw the pooch, big time. That's not a prediction, I'm horrible at those, just a thought exercise.

Trump has taken our political environment so far off the rails - and I believe that was the point, yes? - that the snap-back that would result from his administration's failure would be pretty freaking powerful. The GOP brand would be TORCHED for a LONG time, and we would head Left, BIG time.

In other words, this thing really is all or nothing. Are you okay with that?
.

I view Trump as a response for the left taking things way too far. Now their attempts at controlling speech and manipulating opinions has backfired big time. The party is torched, because of the far left regressive infiltration.

As predicted, the left is doubling down, and people are waking up to the fact that they are outright lying about almost everything they are saying. PewDiePie is a Nazi now, really, huh?

Exactly, Trump is their own creation, America is sick of their antics

 

[JoeB131]

Which is why the Democrats are working night and day to make whites a minority in this country as quickly as they can. Once they do that, we would be a one-party government for eternity, and we would only have our surrender-first whites to blame.

Hey, I stopped being a Republican when I realized that the Hispanic Lesbian Chick I worked with was really in the same boat I'm in. the one where you have to work multiple jobs to make ends meet because the one percent are thinking up new ways to screw us.

The problem is, the GOP has double and tripled down on being a White Identity Party, something most decent white people just aren't comfortable with.

When Trumpenfuhrer fails to bring the jobs back to Cleveland and Detroit and the rest of the Rust Belt, they are going to figure that out, too.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

It won't happen. Sure, something bad could happen to the economy, the Republicans could screw something up or back a bad position, and yes, the country will put Democrats in leadership again, but it's the normal way of things in a country like ours.

So are you look at his presidency as pretty much standard - failure would damage the party to a normal extent, and the pendulum continues to swing as normal?
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Yes but your question is sort of will it swing hard left? I say no. Democrats (someday) will regain leadership either in the House, Senate or the White House, but they will never get enough support to go Socialism or Communism.

 

[Iceweasel]

And predicting any failures at this point is just weird. Did you do that to Obama? My guess is no.

I realize how people like you, on both ends of the spectrum, just like to make stuff up. But I did go out of my way to write "that's not a prediction, I'm horrible at those, just a thought exercise" but somehow you "didn't see" that.

If you don't want to provide a straight and honest answer to my clear question, you don't need to. The fact that you don't want to is telling in itself.
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I realize you can't grasp the meaning of your own words so you like to cubbyhole people to make it as easy as possible. You said:

"In other words, this thing really is all or nothing."

To which I responded. So go fuck yourself you goddamn idiot.

 

[Mac1958]

I view Trump as a response to the left taking things way too far.

Yeah, agreed. The pendulum is swinging farther (further?). That adds to the risk.
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[Ray From Cleveland]

Which is why the Democrats are working night and day to make whites a minority in this country as quickly as they can. Once they do that, we would be a one-party government for eternity, and we would only have our surrender-first whites to blame.

Hey, I stopped being a Republican when I realized that the Hispanic Lesbian Chick I worked with was really in the same boat I'm in. the one where you have to work multiple jobs to make ends meet because the one percent are thinking up new ways to screw us.

The problem is, the GOP has double and tripled down on being a White Identity Party, something most decent white people just aren't comfortable with.

When Trumpenfuhrer fails to bring the jobs back to Cleveland and Detroit and the rest of the Rust Belt, they are going to figure that out, too.

Well perhaps if you were paying attention the last eight years, you'd realize the 1% never had it better or been more successful. Throughout DumBama's two terms, the average median income remained about the same. Also interest rates were low during his two terms as well.

 

[guno]

A question for Trump voters/supporters: How comfortable are you with the risks of his presidency?

I'll flesh this out a bit:

It has long been the nature of politics that the pendulum swings - if this party fouls it up, we'll give the other party a chance. And, at least in recent history, the pendulum has swung pretty hard in the opposite direction.

Let's agree that the two parties are as divided as we have seen. And let's consider the possibility that Trump & Co screw the pooch, big time. That's not a prediction, I'm horrible at those, just a thought exercise.

Trump has taken our political environment so far off the rails - and I believe that was the point, yes? - that the snap-back that would result from his administration's failure would be pretty freaking powerful. The GOP brand would be TORCHED for a LONG time, and we would head Left, BIG time.

In other words, this thing really is all or nothing. Are you okay with that?
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The problem with the premise is that Trump doesn't have a mandate. Most people voted against him. That means a correction is probably going to happen, it's just a matter of when.

The problem is, of course, is that corrections aren't always a big thing. One could argue that 2006 & 2008 was a major correction after Bush messed up, well, everything, but those majorities were gone by 2010.

So you could see a bunch of Democrats elected in Republican districts, but they'd probably be moderate squish Democrats that you can't count on for anything other than going along with Trump's impeachment.

Long term, though, the country will continue to drift left for no other reason than population trends are making America less white.

A Big Part of Trump’s Movement Will Soon Literally Die Off

Realizing how much of Trump’s following comes from voters in their golden years may not make much difference in predicting this election. But it does matter in projecting the future of Trumpism. Older Trump voters who see him as a last chance to go back to the 1950s will soon be gone. That doesn’t mean Trump’s kind of politics will go away — indeed, younger Trump voters not only exist, but are probably angrier and more open to radical and intolerant policies than old folks who just wish women and minorities would stay “in their place” and kids would mind their manners. After all, old white men remember a time when America worked — for them, at least. For many of their children and grandchildren, American “greatness” is more-or-less ancient history.

 

[JoeB131]

I view Trump as a response for the left taking things way too far. Now their attempts at controlling speech and manipulating opinions has backfired big time. The party is torched, because of the far left regressive infiltration.

As predicted, the left is doubling down, and people are waking up to the fact that they are outright lying about almost everything they are saying. PewDiePie is a Nazi now, really, huh?

Exactly, Trump is their own creation, America is sick of their antics

A sign Trump is failing badly. The Wingnuts are already trying to blame the left for him.

"Well, if you didn't insist that we act like decent people towards minorities and gays, we wouldn't have elected the racist and the homophobe!"

No, the thing is, you guys could have elected any one of the perfectly sensible candidates Trump beat and made the same point about the left. Instead, you all supported the crazy person who pandered to your worst instincts, and now you are dealing with the fact he never should have gotten the job to start with.

 

[Mac1958]

It won't happen. Sure, something bad could happen to the economy, the Republicans could screw something up or back a bad position, and yes, the country will put Democrats in leadership again, but it's the normal way of things in a country like ours.

So are you look at his presidency as pretty much standard - failure would damage the party to a normal extent, and the pendulum continues to swing as normal?
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Yes but your question is sort of will it swing hard left? I say no. Democrats (someday) will regain leadership either in the House, Senate or the White House, but they will never get enough support to go Socialism or Communism.

I guess that's the point of my question. That would be the result of knee-jerking all the way. And we do like to knee-jerk.
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