Trump working on pardoning people accused of war crimes

[pismoe]

With as many of these pussy terrorist lovers as we have, this country is doomed.

So, you don't believe in the ROE but you do believe murder is OK.

LOFL ...............

Killing a terrorist is not murder, Mr. Filth.

Well, I guess the US military disagrees with you because the US military convicted him of murder

---------------------------------------------- well maybe , course the 'judges' that agreed may be lefty 'perfumed princess' Caddo . [see 'rr admiral john kirby' if you don't know what a 'perfumed prince ' is Caddo] .

 

[caddo kid]

USA , in 2 Wars fought right beside each other . That'd be WW2 fighting against 'japan' and 'germany' . What was it , 4 years and some change . BUT nowadays here we are in 'the 'afghanistan' with much more power and 'roe' dictated by 'politicians' . And what is it eh ?? USA is still fighting and USA Military being killed after 17 years .

US military had no business being in Iraq since 2003, nor in Afghanistan since 2001

But as we all know a bunch of fucking (GOP) morons voted for moron G. W. Butthead Bush & SCOTUS agreed to back up a war monger as winning the contested election, thus guaranteeing a war in Iraq that I predicted in 1996.

But hey, history is just history.

 

[caddo kid]

With as many of these pussy terrorist lovers as we have, this country is doomed.

So, you don't believe in the ROE but you do believe murder is OK.

LOFL ...............

Killing a terrorist is not murder, Mr. Filth.

Well, I guess the US military disagrees with you because the US military convicted him of murder

---------------------------------------------- well maybe , course the 'judges' that agreed may be lefty 'perfumed princess' Caddo . [see 'rr admiral john kirby' if you don't know what a 'perfumed prince ' is Caddo] .

perfumed princess? so, that was you, before you came out of your closet?

 

[miketx]

USA , in 2 Wars fought right beside each other . That'd be WW2 fighting against 'japan' and 'germany' . What was it , 4 years and some change . BUT nowadays here we are in 'the 'afghanistan' with much more power and 'roe' dictated by 'politicians' . And what is it eh ?? USA is still fighting and USA Military being killed after 17 years .

US military had no business being in Iraq since 2003, nor in Afghanistan since 2001

But as we all know a bunch of fucking (GOP) morons voted for moron G. W. Butthead Bush & SCOTUS agreed to back up a war monger as winning the contested election, thus guaranteeing a war in Iraq that I predicted in 1996.

But hey, history is just history.

So that makes it ok in your filth mind to imprison people who kill terrorists.

 

[pismoe]

i told you , Perfumed Prince refers to 'mrobamas' military big shots after 'mrobama' purged the USA Military of strong military men and chain of command . The term is military and goes back some years . See 'rr adm. john kirby' who i declare is a 'perfumed prince' and an example Caddo .

 

[miketx]

With as many of these pussy terrorist lovers as we have, this country is doomed.

So, you don't believe in the ROE but you do believe murder is OK.

LOFL ...............

Killing a terrorist is not murder, Mr. Filth.

Well, I guess the US military disagrees with you because the US military convicted him of murder

And now, that filth has been proven wrong.

 

[OldLady]

No low to low for a man who openly admires and seeks to emulate dictators and authoritarians.

Our military has standards and codes. It is professional and strict. Something our enemies typically lack. Trump seems to want them to emulate our enemies. No surprise.

Trump may pardon US soldiers accused or convicted of war crimes – report

Legal experts cited in the report said pardoning several accused and convicted war criminals, including some who have not yet gone to trial, has not been done in recent history. Some worried such pardons could erode the legitimacy of military law.

They were talking about this on the Glen Beck radio show yesterday afternoon. Of course, the right wing is all for the pardons. The crimes committed were done during the era of Obama, when the military had its hands tied and were being told not to fight; the soldiers were making split second decisions in a time of war and sometimes shit happens; to know these violations happened, it had to be reported by other soldiers--ones who for some reason had a vendetta against the accused. You know the drill.

I just wonder if shooting unarmed civilians -- which seems to be a common theme -- is something that should be "excused." I don't know anything about the cases, so I'm not going to say one way or the other, but it is a pretty serious charge. We're not Storm Troopers.

 

[pismoe]

its the way WAR's go in my opinion . The enemy intermingles with the so called civilians that help the enemy through coercion or purposely . Me , i'd nuke / destroy them ALL like we did 'hiroshima' . dresden , yada , yada , nagasaki . ------------------------------ and 'fort drum' philipines . [because its interesting !!

 

[EvilCat Breath]

No terrorist is in a military. Not of any nation. They are all civilians. They wear no uniform they have no military structure and generally do not take orders from a superior officer. That's why saying that our uniformed personnel killed a civilian is meaningless. They are all civilians.

 

[pismoe]

what is it , 17 years in a WAR in 'afghanistan' .

 

[pismoe]

and 4 - 5 years in a World War fought in 2 different Theaters and called WW2 . And then 'iraq' that was under 'gwb' for 8 years [was it] and 'mrobama' for 8 years . And even then , 'gwb's' so called ' shock and awe ' at the beginning of the 'eye-raq' War was pitiful and wussie like !! --------------- just a comment !!

 

[flacaltenn]

So much better when Clinton was getting paid to pardon criminals right? In this case the men were convicted not because what they did was so bad but because it wasn't PC.

Targeting and murdering unarmed civilians has nothing to do with PC.

This is the military that donnie and his deplorables want, tho.

As opposed say to trading a traitor who left his base to flirt with the Taliban --- for 4 LEADERS of the Taliban who were captured at GREAT COST to our military??? Different set of values indeed.....

One of those traded was al Baghdadi. Good call shitstain.

al Baghdadi was a trade by the Iraqis when we gave them control of Iraqi prisons. Bergdahl was traded for Taliban in Afghanistan...

 

[JoeB131]

There is a HUGE difference from not wanting to fight in a war and kill people, to going to war and killing innocent people. I can't believe you used that as an example. That's just flat out ridiculous.

This guy wasn't innocent, he was an Al Qaeda bomb-maker.

You could stop that idiotic nonsense at any second. There is patently no good, not even a justifiable reason to continue doing it. There hasn't been any right from the start.

It's really easy for us to judge, sitting behind our computers, in our nice warm houses, not having to live every day with people trying to kill us.

The message is, "Being caught in wanton murder will result in justice being rendered before a U.S. court." That was the right call. Whatever else you are making up to let a murderer escape is just you defending the indefensible.

As another poster said, charging people with murder in war is like handing out speeding tickets at the Indy 500. A lot of people felt this wasn't a fair ruling. Not only because the prosecution withheld evidence, but because they didn't take into account the soldier's mental state after two of his platoon had been murdered by this piece of shit.

Seriously, sending the platoon leader of the guys he killed to escort him back to his village... that was dumb.

 

[JoeB131]

US military had no business being in Iraq since 2003, nor in Afghanistan since 2001

But as we all know a bunch of fucking (GOP) morons voted for moron G. W. Butthead Bush & SCOTUS agreed to back up a war monger as winning the contested election, thus guaranteeing a war in Iraq that I predicted in 1996.

But hey, history is just history.

Yes, and you left out some parts of that history, like the Democrats supported Bush all the way on that war when it started and turned tail when it started being unpopular. This includes Hillary, Biden and Kerry.

We'd have probably still gone to war with Iraq if Gore won.

Here's the real problem. We only go to war in a half-ass way. In World War II, we militarized the whole society. Detroit stopped making cars to make tanks and jeeps, we rationed everything, we censored the news. And we had a draft that had few exemptions.

Today we rely on volunteers, and then wonder when people stop volunteering after it drags on for a few years.

So let's all concede Iraq was a terrible idea. This has nothing to do with the Army railroading a young officer and withholding evidence.

Look, I don't think Trump did this for the right reasons. The fact that Behenna's family are Republican muckity-mucks in Oklahoma had something to do with it, I'm sure. But it was the right thing to do.

 

[JoeB131]

No terrorist is in a military. Not of any nation. They are all civilians. They wear no uniform they have no military structure and generally do not take orders from a superior officer. That's why saying that our uniformed personnel killed a civilian is meaningless. They are all civilians.

Um, no. The Geneva Convention recognizes members of irregular forces, partisans and guerrillas as having rights under the laws of war.

 

[MAGAman]

No low to low for a man who openly admires and seeks to emulate dictators and authoritarians.

Our military has standards and codes. It is professional and strict. Something our enemies typically lack. Trump seems to want them to emulate our enemies. No surprise.

Trump may pardon US soldiers accused or convicted of war crimes – report

Legal experts cited in the report said pardoning several accused and convicted war criminals, including some who have not yet gone to trial, has not been done in recent history. Some worried such pardons could erode the legitimacy of military law.

"Working On"?

Can't wait to post fake news, can you?

 

[Cellblock2429]

No low to low for a man who openly admires and seeks to emulate dictators and authoritarians.

Our military has standards and codes. It is professional and strict. Something our enemies typically lack. Trump seems to want them to emulate our enemies. No surprise.

Trump may pardon US soldiers accused or convicted of war crimes – report

Legal experts cited in the report said pardoning several accused and convicted war criminals, including some who have not yet gone to trial, has not been done in recent history. Some worried such pardons could erode the legitimacy of military law.

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Trumps first pardon circa 1913.

/----/ Joe Kennedy greeting Adolf would be more accurate. Moonshiner Joe was a Hitler fan.

 

[Lewdog]

There is a HUGE difference from not wanting to fight in a war and kill people, to going to war and killing innocent people. I can't believe you used that as an example. That's just flat out ridiculous.

This guy wasn't innocent, he was an Al Qaeda bomb-maker.

You could stop that idiotic nonsense at any second. There is patently no good, not even a justifiable reason to continue doing it. There hasn't been any right from the start.

It's really easy for us to judge, sitting behind our computers, in our nice warm houses, not having to live every day with people trying to kill us.

The message is, "Being caught in wanton murder will result in justice being rendered before a U.S. court." That was the right call. Whatever else you are making up to let a murderer escape is just you defending the indefensible.

As another poster said, charging people with murder in war is like handing out speeding tickets at the Indy 500. A lot of people felt this wasn't a fair ruling. Not only because the prosecution withheld evidence, but because they didn't take into account the soldier's mental state after two of his platoon had been murdered by this piece of shit.

Seriously, sending the platoon leader of the guys he killed to escort him back to his village... that was dumb.

The guy wasn't innocent? First off, how do you know? Secondly if he wasn't innocent then why was he ordered taken back to the city and RELEASED. In the military you do what you are told, unless it is blatantly against the law and you can prove that.

The rest of your post is garbage. We can't hold people accountable for murder during a war? Well yes, yes we can when they don't follow their orders, they strip the guy naked, they basically torture him, then blow up his body with a grenade and leave his naked corpse to be found without reporting it... then lie saying the guy was going for a gun so they had to kill him.

War is not like it was centuries or even hundreds of years ago. If you don't want rules in war, then how can you then hold it against other people when they kill Americans and desecrate the bodies? You are advocating for U.S. soldiers to do it in this thread.

 

[miketx]

There is a HUGE difference from not wanting to fight in a war and kill people, to going to war and killing innocent people. I can't believe you used that as an example. That's just flat out ridiculous.

This guy wasn't innocent, he was an Al Qaeda bomb-maker.

You could stop that idiotic nonsense at any second. There is patently no good, not even a justifiable reason to continue doing it. There hasn't been any right from the start.

It's really easy for us to judge, sitting behind our computers, in our nice warm houses, not having to live every day with people trying to kill us.

The message is, "Being caught in wanton murder will result in justice being rendered before a U.S. court." That was the right call. Whatever else you are making up to let a murderer escape is just you defending the indefensible.

As another poster said, charging people with murder in war is like handing out speeding tickets at the Indy 500. A lot of people felt this wasn't a fair ruling. Not only because the prosecution withheld evidence, but because they didn't take into account the soldier's mental state after two of his platoon had been murdered by this piece of shit.

Seriously, sending the platoon leader of the guys he killed to escort him back to his village... that was dumb.

The guy wasn't innocent? First off, how do you know? Secondly if he wasn't innocent then why was he ordered taken back to the city and RELEASED. In the military you do what you are told, unless it is blatantly against the law and you can prove that.

The rest of your post is garbage. We can't hold people accountable for murder during a war? Well yes, yes we can when they don't follow their orders, they strip the guy naked, they basically torture him, then blow up his body with a grenade and leave his naked corpse to be found without reporting it... then lie saying the guy was going for a gun so they had to kill him.

War is not like it was centuries or even hundreds of years ago. If you don't want rules in war, then how can you then hold it against other people when they kill Americans and desecrate the bodies? You are advocating for U.S. soldiers to do it in this thread.

You were there?

 

[Crixus]

US military had no business being in Iraq since 2003, nor in Afghanistan since 2001

But as we all know a bunch of fucking (GOP) morons voted for moron G. W. Butthead Bush & SCOTUS agreed to back up a war monger as winning the contested election, thus guaranteeing a war in Iraq that I predicted in 1996.

But hey, history is just history.

Yes, and you left out some parts of that history, like the Democrats supported Bush all the way on that war when it started and turned tail when it started being unpopular. This includes Hillary, Biden and Kerry.

We'd have probably still gone to war with Iraq if Gore won.

Here's the real problem. We only go to war in a half-ass way. In World War II, we militarized the whole society. Detroit stopped making cars to make tanks and jeeps, we rationed everything, we censored the news. And we had a draft that had few exemptions.

Today we rely on volunteers, and then wonder when people stop volunteering after it drags on for a few years.

So let's all concede Iraq was a terrible idea. This has nothing to do with the Army railroading a young officer and withholding evidence.

Look, I don't think Trump did this for the right reasons. The fact that Behenna's family are Republican muckity-mucks in Oklahoma had something to do with it, I'm sure. But it was the right thing to do.

Joe knows. He was in WW2, Vietnam, and Beirut so Joe knows war.