Trump will not use term 'two states' during meeting with PM

[GHook93]

Palestinians aren't moving anywhere, the non-Jew population of Palestine/Israel is rising at a greater rate than the Jew population. It is and will continue to be an Apartheid state. Eventually the world will do the right thing, as they did with Apartheid South Africa, eventually even the U.S. has to fall into line. That's just the way things work. Even Reagan wasn't able to stop the rest of the world with respect to Apartheid South Africa. As late as 1986 Reagan was refusing to accept sanctions on Apartheid South Africa, but even he was overruled and sanctions were applied and we know what happened next. How quickly people forget.


"August 13, 1986|By Los Angeles Times

CHICAGO — President Reagan, reaffirming his support for South African President P.W. Botha, Tuesday endorsed a suggestion by Botha that the United States join other Western nations in an effort to help work out South Africa's racial crisis.

During his Tuesday night news conference in Chicago, the president also mounted an unyielding defense of his South African policies. He attacked the dissident African National Congress as a communist-dominated group intent on causing disruption and seizing control of the South African government.

"Reagan defended his continued refusal to impose sanctions against South Africa and labeled the ANC as ''the one group'' in that country favoring such sanctions.

The ANC ''very definitely has been the most radical and wants the disruption that would come from massive unemployment and hunger and desperation of the people because it is their belief that they could then rise out of all of that disruption and seize control,'' Reagan said."

Reagan: Let's Lend Botha A Helping Hand

In your wet dream numbnutz! Good or bad the Orthodox Jews reproduce at a crazy rate (double that of any group in Israel) and they number at 1.2 mil to the Arabs 1.4 mil.

Suck on that cuntolicus!


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[frigidweirdo]

US President Donald Trump will not use the term 'two states' during his meeting with Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu this Wednesday, White House sources reported.

The sources also said that Trump wants to be the President who achieves peace between Israel and its Arab neighbors. The report by Channel 10 also stated that Trump would not pressure Netanyahu regarding construction in Judea and Samaria.

Prime Minister Netanyahu faced pressure to freeze all construction over the 1949 armistice lines during his first meeting with former US President Barack Obama in the White House in 2009.

Prime Minister Netanyahu took off today for his meeting with President Trump. The Prime Minister is expected to land in Washington DC tonight. Tomorrow he will meet with Secretary of State Rex Tillerson, and on Wednesday he will meet with President Trump.

As he boarded his plane to Washington DC, Netanyahu said: "I'm going to Washington to have a very important meeting with President Trump. I'll also be meeting with Vice President Pence, with Secretary of State Tillerson and with Republican leaders and Democratic leaders on Capitol Hill."

"The alliance between Israel and America has always been extremely strong. It's about to get even stronger. President Trump and I see eye to eye on the dangers emanating from the region but also on the opportunities. And we'll talk about both, as well as upgrading the relations between Israel and the United States in many, many fields."

Trump will not use term 'two states' during meeting with PM

This is consistent with the fact that at Trump's behest the Republican platform did not endorse two states for the first time in years.

If Trump looked at history, he'd see that achieving peace isn't going to happen because it's not in the interests of the right in Israel and it's not in the interests of the right in Palestine.

Both de jure an de facto peace has already been achieved. De jure peace was achieved by treaty between Israel and the PLO and de facto peace has been achieved by Israeli security forces. When people talk about achieving peace between Israel and the Palestinians, they are either ignorant of the facts or trying to use a fictional conflict to add a sense of urgency to creating a Palestinian state.

And yet there isn't peace. The region is just waiting for the next war to happen, Palestinians are getting a raw deal massively and there are still millions of people in camps because they have no home.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Palestinians aren't moving anywhere, the non-Jew population of Palestine/Israel is rising at a greater rate than the Jew population. It is and will continue to be an Apartheid state. Eventually the world will do the right thing, as they did with Apartheid South Africa, eventually even the U.S. has to fall into line. That's just the way things work. Even Reagan wasn't able to stop the rest of the world with respect to Apartheid South Africa. As late as 1986 Reagan was refusing to accept sanctions on Apartheid South Africa, but even he was overruled and sanctions were applied and we know what happened next. How quickly people forget.


"August 13, 1986|By Los Angeles Times

CHICAGO — President Reagan, reaffirming his support for South African President P.W. Botha, Tuesday endorsed a suggestion by Botha that the United States join other Western nations in an effort to help work out South Africa's racial crisis.

During his Tuesday night news conference in Chicago, the president also mounted an unyielding defense of his South African policies. He attacked the dissident African National Congress as a communist-dominated group intent on causing disruption and seizing control of the South African government.

"Reagan defended his continued refusal to impose sanctions against South Africa and labeled the ANC as ''the one group'' in that country favoring such sanctions.

The ANC ''very definitely has been the most radical and wants the disruption that would come from massive unemployment and hunger and desperation of the people because it is their belief that they could then rise out of all of that disruption and seize control,'' Reagan said."

Reagan: Let's Lend Botha A Helping Hand

In your wet dream numbnutz! Good or bad the Orthodox Jews reproduce at a crazy rate (double that of any group in Israel) and they number at 1.2 mil to the Arabs 1.4 mil.

Suck on that cuntolicus!


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Well it depends on which statistics you look at

Within Israel Jews saw 132,000 births in 2015, compared to Muslims' 36,000. However this doesn't include Palestine. In Palestine there were 144,000 births per year, which puts it far ahead of the number of Jews being born by 48,000 per year.

 

[toomuchtime_]

US President Donald Trump will not use the term 'two states' during his meeting with Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu this Wednesday, White House sources reported.

The sources also said that Trump wants to be the President who achieves peace between Israel and its Arab neighbors. The report by Channel 10 also stated that Trump would not pressure Netanyahu regarding construction in Judea and Samaria.

Prime Minister Netanyahu faced pressure to freeze all construction over the 1949 armistice lines during his first meeting with former US President Barack Obama in the White House in 2009.

Prime Minister Netanyahu took off today for his meeting with President Trump. The Prime Minister is expected to land in Washington DC tonight. Tomorrow he will meet with Secretary of State Rex Tillerson, and on Wednesday he will meet with President Trump.

As he boarded his plane to Washington DC, Netanyahu said: "I'm going to Washington to have a very important meeting with President Trump. I'll also be meeting with Vice President Pence, with Secretary of State Tillerson and with Republican leaders and Democratic leaders on Capitol Hill."

"The alliance between Israel and America has always been extremely strong. It's about to get even stronger. President Trump and I see eye to eye on the dangers emanating from the region but also on the opportunities. And we'll talk about both, as well as upgrading the relations between Israel and the United States in many, many fields."

Trump will not use term 'two states' during meeting with PM

This is consistent with the fact that at Trump's behest the Republican platform did not endorse two states for the first time in years.

If Trump looked at history, he'd see that achieving peace isn't going to happen because it's not in the interests of the right in Israel and it's not in the interests of the right in Palestine.

Both de jure an de facto peace has already been achieved. De jure peace was achieved by treaty between Israel and the PLO and de facto peace has been achieved by Israeli security forces. When people talk about achieving peace between Israel and the Palestinians, they are either ignorant of the facts or trying to use a fictional conflict to add a sense of urgency to creating a Palestinian state.

And yet there isn't peace. The region is just waiting for the next war to happen, Palestinians are getting a raw deal massively and there are still millions of people in camps because they have no home.

Not one word of your post is true. There is peace in all the areas in which Israel provides security, including area C. The homicide rate in these areas is less than half the homicide rate in the US. No Arab countries are preparing for war with Israel. The Arabs are getting a raw deal from their corrupt, incompetent leaders, not from Israel. The homeless people in Gaza are suffering because their corrupt, incompetent leaders chose to go to war with Israel, and the homeless people in Judea and Samaria are suffering because the EU encourages them to build illegally, knowing full well these homes will be demolished, for propaganda purposes.

 

[montelatici]

US President Donald Trump will not use the term 'two states' during his meeting with Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu this Wednesday, White House sources reported.

The sources also said that Trump wants to be the President who achieves peace between Israel and its Arab neighbors. The report by Channel 10 also stated that Trump would not pressure Netanyahu regarding construction in Judea and Samaria.

Prime Minister Netanyahu faced pressure to freeze all construction over the 1949 armistice lines during his first meeting with former US President Barack Obama in the White House in 2009.

Prime Minister Netanyahu took off today for his meeting with President Trump. The Prime Minister is expected to land in Washington DC tonight. Tomorrow he will meet with Secretary of State Rex Tillerson, and on Wednesday he will meet with President Trump.

As he boarded his plane to Washington DC, Netanyahu said: "I'm going to Washington to have a very important meeting with President Trump. I'll also be meeting with Vice President Pence, with Secretary of State Tillerson and with Republican leaders and Democratic leaders on Capitol Hill."

"The alliance between Israel and America has always been extremely strong. It's about to get even stronger. President Trump and I see eye to eye on the dangers emanating from the region but also on the opportunities. And we'll talk about both, as well as upgrading the relations between Israel and the United States in many, many fields."

Trump will not use term 'two states' during meeting with PM

This is consistent with the fact that at Trump's behest the Republican platform did not endorse two states for the first time in years.

If Trump looked at history, he'd see that achieving peace isn't going to happen because it's not in the interests of the right in Israel and it's not in the interests of the right in Palestine.

Both de jure an de facto peace has already been achieved. De jure peace was achieved by treaty between Israel and the PLO and de facto peace has been achieved by Israeli security forces. When people talk about achieving peace between Israel and the Palestinians, they are either ignorant of the facts or trying to use a fictional conflict to add a sense of urgency to creating a Palestinian state.

And yet there isn't peace. The region is just waiting for the next war to happen, Palestinians are getting a raw deal massively and there are still millions of people in camps because they have no home.

Not one word of your post is true. There is peace in all the areas in which Israel provides security, including area C. The homicide rate in these areas is less than half the homicide rate in the US. No Arab countries are preparing for war with Israel. The Arabs are getting a raw deal from their corrupt, incompetent leaders, not from Israel. The homeless people in Gaza are suffering because their corrupt, incompetent leaders chose to go to war with Israel, and the homeless people in Judea and Samaria are suffering because the EU encourages them to build illegally, knowing full well these homes will be demolished, for propaganda purposes.

Everything he wrote is true, everything you wrote is propaganda. Gaza is trying to rid itself of a blockade imposed by Israel, which is a de facto act of war against the people of Gaza. Israel is an Apartheid state, no different than Apartheid South Africa. And, eventually the Apartheid regime will be brought down. That's how these things go.

 

[Shusha]

You talk like its hard to get rid of the blockade. Its not. Its easy. Just stop attacking Israel.

 

[montelatici]

You talk like its hard to get rid of the blockade. Its not. Its easy. Just stop attacking Israel.

The blockade has been in place from before Gaza attacked Israel (that's why the Gazans began resisting) ) and it will remain in place whether or not Gaza attacks Israel in an effort to remove the blockade. Israel will not relinquish control over Gaza under any circumstance.

 

[Shusha]

Israel will not relinquish control over Gaza under any circumstance.

And you know that, how?

 

[Shusha]

Gaza is the proof that there is no will in the Palestinian people, for all their talk, to create a viable, peaceful, third or third and fourth State in Palestine.

There is certainly a concerted will to "resist", but that resistance seems not to be focused on actually achieving anything substantial or worthwhile or possible -- like a State or two. In fact, that resistance is actively working against the achievement of that goal.

So what do the Arab Palestinian people in Palestine actually want? Well, that is patently obvious to anyone who makes even a minimal effort to look. Start with the official websites of Hamas and Fatah, both of which depict all of Israel and the disputed territories as being one state and both of which depict violent imagery (swords and rifles, respectively).

So why is the world so upset that Israel and the US have stopped talking about a one or two more state solution? Palestine has been doing it for decades.

 

[toomuchtime_]

US President Donald Trump will not use the term 'two states' during his meeting with Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu this Wednesday, White House sources reported.

The sources also said that Trump wants to be the President who achieves peace between Israel and its Arab neighbors. The report by Channel 10 also stated that Trump would not pressure Netanyahu regarding construction in Judea and Samaria.

Prime Minister Netanyahu faced pressure to freeze all construction over the 1949 armistice lines during his first meeting with former US President Barack Obama in the White House in 2009.

Prime Minister Netanyahu took off today for his meeting with President Trump. The Prime Minister is expected to land in Washington DC tonight. Tomorrow he will meet with Secretary of State Rex Tillerson, and on Wednesday he will meet with President Trump.

As he boarded his plane to Washington DC, Netanyahu said: "I'm going to Washington to have a very important meeting with President Trump. I'll also be meeting with Vice President Pence, with Secretary of State Tillerson and with Republican leaders and Democratic leaders on Capitol Hill."

"The alliance between Israel and America has always been extremely strong. It's about to get even stronger. President Trump and I see eye to eye on the dangers emanating from the region but also on the opportunities. And we'll talk about both, as well as upgrading the relations between Israel and the United States in many, many fields."

Trump will not use term 'two states' during meeting with PM

This is consistent with the fact that at Trump's behest the Republican platform did not endorse two states for the first time in years.

If Trump looked at history, he'd see that achieving peace isn't going to happen because it's not in the interests of the right in Israel and it's not in the interests of the right in Palestine.

Both de jure an de facto peace has already been achieved. De jure peace was achieved by treaty between Israel and the PLO and de facto peace has been achieved by Israeli security forces. When people talk about achieving peace between Israel and the Palestinians, they are either ignorant of the facts or trying to use a fictional conflict to add a sense of urgency to creating a Palestinian state.

And yet there isn't peace. The region is just waiting for the next war to happen, Palestinians are getting a raw deal massively and there are still millions of people in camps because they have no home.

Not one word of your post is true. There is peace in all the areas in which Israel provides security, including area C. The homicide rate in these areas is less than half the homicide rate in the US. No Arab countries are preparing for war with Israel. The Arabs are getting a raw deal from their corrupt, incompetent leaders, not from Israel. The homeless people in Gaza are suffering because their corrupt, incompetent leaders chose to go to war with Israel, and the homeless people in Judea and Samaria are suffering because the EU encourages them to build illegally, knowing full well these homes will be demolished, for propaganda purposes.

Everything he wrote is true, everything you wrote is propaganda. Gaza is trying to rid itself of a blockade imposed by Israel, which is a de facto act of war against the people of Gaza. Israel is an Apartheid state, no different than Apartheid South Africa. And, eventually the Apartheid regime will be brought down. That's how these things go.

I understand you want to rant and rave about South Africa because you realize there is nothing Israel is doing that would justify the level of hostility you feel towards Israel.

 

[montelatici]

Israel is doing exactly to the non-Jews what Apartheid South Africa was doing to the non-white population, and worse. Of course a normal neutral person would be hostile to such oppression.

Here is someone who should know something about Apartheid.

 

[fncceo]

wholly controlled by Jews

I LOVE the sound of that ... get used to it.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Israel is doing exactly to the non-Jews what Apartheid South Africa was doing to the non-white population, and worse. Of course a normal neutral person would be hostile to such oppression.

Here is someone who should know something about Apartheid.

Peace is not the absence of conflict. It is the presence of justice. That is one thing that has been absent in all the fake and failed peace talks.

 

[toomuchtime_]

Israel is doing exactly to the non-Jews what Apartheid South Africa was doing to the non-white population, and worse. Of course a normal neutral person would be hostile to such oppression.

Here is someone who should know something about Apartheid.

A normal, neutral person would know that what happened in South Africa is in no way related to what is happening in Israel.

 

[montelatici]

wholly controlled by Jews

I LOVE the sound of that ... get used to it.

Used to what? I am a European Roman Catholic, lol.

 

[montelatici]

Israel is doing exactly to the non-Jews what Apartheid South Africa was doing to the non-white population, and worse. Of course a normal neutral person would be hostile to such oppression.

Here is someone who should know something about Apartheid.

A normal, neutral person would know that what happened in South Africa is in no way related to what is happening in Israel.

No, a normal neutral person, like the Archbishop who lived under Apartheid, understands that there is no difference.

 

[toomuchtime_]

Israel is doing exactly to the non-Jews what Apartheid South Africa was doing to the non-white population, and worse. Of course a normal neutral person would be hostile to such oppression.

Here is someone who should know something about Apartheid.

A normal, neutral person would know that what happened in South Africa is in no way related to what is happening in Israel.

No, a normal neutral person, like the Archbishop who lived under Apartheid, understands that there is no difference.

He knows nothing about what is going on in Israel, but he knows that bashing Israel is popular in South Africa.

 

[montelatici]

Of course he knows what is going on in Israel. He is the best judge, having lived under Apartheid. However, even white South Africans are good judges:

South African Nobelist Coetzee on Israel and apartheid: ‘Draw your own conclusions’ - See more at: South African Nobelist Coetzee on Israel and apartheid: ‘Draw your own conclusions’

 

[Syriusly]

Fail Thread- Trump did use the term.

Trump says he 'can live with' either one- or two-state solution in Israel

"I’m looking at a two-state and one-state, and I like the one that both parties like. I’m very happy with the one that both parties like. I could live with either one. I thought for a while the two-state looked like it may be the easier of the two, but honestly, if Bibi [Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu] and if the Palestinians, if Israel and the Palestinians are happy, I’m happy with the one they like the best," Trump said while standing next to Netanyahu.

Trump also called on Israel to "hold back on settlements for a little bit."

At one point, Trump said that "as with any successful negotiation, both sides will have to make compromises." He then turned to Netanyahu, and he responded "both sides."

 

[rylah]

Israel is doing exactly to the non-Jews what Apartheid South Africa was doing to the non-white population, and worse. Of course a normal neutral person would be hostile to such oppression.

Here is someone who should know something about Apartheid.

Peace is not the absence of conflict. It is the presence of justice. That is one thing that has been absent in all the fake and failed peace talks.

One thing for sure there have been lots of idealistic hollow speeches like that...