FitzForShort
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- Oct 5, 2022
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Again, you're missing the point that the "system" didn't decide to make an example out of him. He committed MULTIPLE crimes over three days and was turned in and there was more than enough evidence to convict, which we did. That came from the ground up, not the top down. And I don't know what part of the WaPo article you're referring to about us not being "model soldiers" but I can personally tell you I never so much as got a write-up on five years and nobody else was getting written up or reprimanded during my time down there. So it seems like some pretty baseless slander, which as I said, originated from the lawyers who were defending him and was never supported by anyone else.I served for 11 years Active Duty and reserve. Never served in combat, so I won't take that away from you. And, yes, I was in a Service Support Role. Frankly, none of you sounded like model soldiers according to the WaPo article. Sounds like 1LT Torance got off on a bad foot with you guys. It also sounds like his NCO's really didn't support him and his CO didn't give him clear guidance. 20 years of war in Afghanistan wrecked the army. Then you wonder why the Army can't meet it's recruiting goals.
Frankly, the fact is that military courts are hardly fair. Once the system decided it was going to make an example out of Torance, that was kind of it. 19 years was excessive. Trump did the right thing (entirely by accident, because we are talking about Trump here.)
Every war we ever fought, when it was over, we make these kinds of decisions. Rusty Calley got released after a year, for killing an entire village.
So I ask the question, are you upset he wasn't punished enough, or are you upset he's a right wing celebrity now while the other guys had to deal with PTSD and other issues after they left?
The question is decent, I'm not upset that he didn't get punished more. I'm not even upset that he got pardoned. Nor do I consider him a "right wing celebrity", he wrecked his own life and he has to live with the consequences. I've seen ehat happened when he tried to make a social media account, it was kind of rough to watch to be honest but what can someone expect? What pisses me off, now and then, are the thousands of arm-chair quarterbacks and Fox-news brainworms running around for years telling everyone else how he was "defending" any of us or saying that his very deliberate actions were, somehow, "a mistake" as if committing and trying to cover up murder could ever be a mistake. I'm pissed at his lawyers and Fox News who KNEW they were full of shit and refused to speak to anyone besides the one person convicted of murder. They brought Bergdahl's unit on, didn't they? But the guys who did contact them were rebuffed and, like we see here, accused of some very vague bad behavior without any instances or evidence. I'm especially pissed at Allen West, who refused to hear from any of us, deleted all my comments, and blocked me from his page because I dared contradict his bullshit stories. And then he had the nerve to accuse us of "flipping"?? Nobody flipped, we literally turned him in, we urged the action. Imagine spending years trying to tell your experience only to have countless uninformed or misinformed people just dismissing you wholesale because someone who is profiting off of defending a murderer decided to make some shit up. That's what I'm pissed about. Sometimes I get accused of hating Lorance. I don't. He was wrong and he deserved his punishment, but there were also very human things about him that he talked about in the docuseries. Not that I've ever publicly spoken about it but his personal struggles were something I had no idea about until he was already in prison and I do genuinely feel bad that his parents didn't give him the love and support any human being deserves. Kind of fucked up the things they said about him. But at the end of the day, I harbor no ill will towards him. I just won't defend his callous indifference to the deaths of innocents. If he were honest about what he did, then maybe I'd have more of a heart, but lying is part of the reason he ended up where he ended up.