Trump lies shamelessly about his tax-cut plan.

[BluesLegend]

NO one pays NO taxes, every trip to the store is taxed. if you own property your taxed, car taxed, work taxed. do you no what % is not taxed?

How may of those taxes are from the federal government?

Oh, wait! You didn't think of that, did you?

That fool forgets people who pay no Federal income tax can still get a refund from federal tax credits, those offset state sales taxes.

Exactly! My daughter qualifies for the EITC because she has a deadbeat ex. Ironically, her refund matched my total tax bill almost dollar for dollar.

I'd like to pay nothing in and still get a fat refund check how cool would that be, sucks being in the 2%.

 

[hunarcy]

NO one pays NO taxes, every trip to the store is taxed. if you own property your taxed, car taxed, work taxed. do you no what % is not taxed?

What a load of crap. You start off talking about Federal taxes and then switch to State and Local taxes because your hypocrisy was exposed.

 

[NYcarbineer]

No, we'll just fuck with all you phonies who gave him credit on the way up but won't blame him on the way down.

You have no credibility after 8 years of Obama, zero.

Blues try to be an honest broker here What was the DOW a month or 2 after Obama was elected and what was it when he left ?? And how many were employed during his 8 years in office and how far down did our unemployment sink? These are not difficult questions to answer Even JC sassy or bri could answer them

Obama's policies were anti jobs, anti business, and hurt not helped the stock market. An honest answer would be that the stock market improved IN SPITE OF Obama not with his help. Hence bragging about the so called Obama market is utter nonsense.

But feel free to post the Obama policies that you feel improved the stock market, you can't because they don't exist but try if you wish.

So the stock market is going up now in spite of Trump.

lol, I win.

And the trump dumb bell is taking the credit Low interest and good earnings are all trumps doing?? lol

Since Trump hasn't signed a single significant piece of legislation, period,

anyone who claims the market performance belongs to a president then it belongs to Obama.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Trump lies about everything, doesnt everyone know that already? Everytime I watch him on TV he's lying about somthing. Just like he said the new Republican healthcare plan was going to be better and it was going to cover everyone. Hell the CBO score proved him wrong and just reading the bill they proposed the last 3 times proved him wrong. He also keeps repeating his self every speech he makes, doesnt he know he doesnt have to campaign anymore? He won the election, lol. He also keeps saying that "The Fake News won't show my crowds on TV and they keep saying its a small crowd, blah, blah, blah." From what I seen every news channel that covers his rallies shows the crowd. You know it's a sad time in America when people actually voted this man for president. The man is not smart at all especially when it comes to running a country. He acts like a 9 year old. The man is making fun of John McCain cause of his disabilities and where he was a POW. Trump was a draft dodger by the way, he claimed to have spurs in his feet and he was disabled, even though he play about every sport without a problem at all. Plus all these people that voted him in are so dumb, they didnt graduate high school and they dont know anything about politics. They will believe anything that comes out of the mans mouth, hell if he said pigs could fly people would believe it. Also, Trump isnt a good business man as everyone thought also. Hell if my dad gave me millions of dollars I would be a business man myself, lol. He was born rich. Plus after all that he still manages to go bankrupt in 4 different business or more and has to have daddy get him out of that. Must be nice to be born with a silver spoon in your mouth. Doesnt everyone on here even know the difference between a democrat and republican? Well I should say doesnt every so called republican (Trump supporter) know the difference? Apparently not. Republicans are for the rich. They want the rich to get richer and the poorer get poorer. Just look what they was trying to do in there healthcare, thats some scary stuff when you see people like that trying to take healthcare from everyone but the rich. Hes trying to give tax cuts for mainly the wealthy. Screw middle class and the poor.Trump is doing nothing but embarrassing America. We've been better off finding someone with just a 8th grade education running this country. By the way im not black, gay, or whatever else you republicans call anyone that hates trump. I just go by the facts and for whats right. Just do your research and look the facts up. I gotta give it to Trump though, he cracks me up. I usually laugh atleast once a day just watching him. He has no clue what hes doing, but you gotta give it too him hes trying...........

Nice wall of text! If you want anyone to read your post, learn to use paragraphs!

 

[hunarcy]

You have no credibility after 8 years of Obama, zero.

Blues try to be an honest broker here What was the DOW a month or 2 after Obama was elected and what was it when he left ?? And how many were employed during his 8 years in office and how far down did our unemployment sink? These are not difficult questions to answer Even JC sassy or bri could answer them

Obama's policies were anti jobs, anti business, and hurt not helped the stock market. An honest answer would be that the stock market improved IN SPITE OF Obama not with his help. Hence bragging about the so called Obama market is utter nonsense.

But feel free to post the Obama policies that you feel improved the stock market, you can't because they don't exist but try if you wish.

So the stock market is going up now in spite of Trump.

lol, I win.

And the trump dumb bell is taking the credit Low interest and good earnings are all trumps doing?? lol

Since Trump hasn't signed a single significant piece of legislation, period,

anyone who claims the market performance belongs to a president then it belongs to Obama.

OMG, you're serious! LMAO@you!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[NYcarbineer]

When a president isn't a wild man ,half crazy like trump ,it might give people a feeling of confidence,,like they had with Obama

You live in the land of make believe, Obama and his policies did not inspire the stock market to grow just the opposite.

So you can't answer where it was and what it ended with ?

You can't name Obama policies and decisions that helped the market grow, yet you credit him for it. Did Obama's tax increase on the rich help? No. Did Obama's Obamacare tax increases help? No. Did Obama's anti drill/explore energy policies help? No.

Post his policies or admit Obama was a flaming liberal buffoon.

Every presidents presidency is judged by his years in office Are you suggesting we change that ?

Presidents can point to their policies as justification for taking credit, in Obama's case he can't. That's why you are shitting yourself and saying Blues you bastard I hate you.

Janet Yellen.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

The US became a super power under high taxes following WW2

Your words should read "in spite of" instead of "under".

 

[conserveguy877]

 

[AntonToo]

Nothing to do with your thinking, everything to do disastrous fiscal policies and shameless way Trump lies on the daily basis

Fiscal irresponsibility isn't stealing more. It's spending too much.

So go ahead and cut the spending to PAY FOR the revenue cuts proposed.

Trump's proposes NOTHING of the sort and these cuts coming at a time of blowing up deficits and debt are blatantly fiscally irresponsible.

Every time taxes get cut the tax revenue actually goes up. Then those jack offs spend even more. There needs to be a balanced budget amendment.

Blatant falsehood.

Tax cuts at current rates do exactly what common sense tells you they do: People pay less tax, government collects less revenues, it's really not that complicated.

Politico rightwingers try to confuse the issue by pointing to long term nominal, un-adjusted for normal growth and inflation, revenue numbers, but there is no free lunch here, just cranks and charlatans misinforming you, as even conservative economists will explain.

History says you are wrong. Look up the revenues generated after Kennedy's tax cuts and Reagan's tax cuts.

Kennedy cut tax rates to SANE levels (68% marginal rate ...aka INSANE SOCIALIST rates among conservatives.

Yes, at those kind of rates it may self-finance because people spend less on lawyers and accountants and more on paying them.

But we are now at tax rates firmly on the left side of the Laffer curve and it's not true as economists left right and center will tell you. (see historic low revenues with respect to economy since Bush's tax cuts)

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

No it will not.

Maybe you think everyone gets a nice fat inheritance? lol

Not everyone does. If they do they shouldn't have to pay taxes on it so some freeloader can be enabled to be a freeloader.

Oh yes tell us all about the not-enabled, self-made inheritors, who's struggles we need to prioritize in our budget planning.

Tell us about the freeloaders that won't do a damn thing to even provide the basics of life to themselves demanding someone else pay more taxes so they can continue to be the pieces of shit they've chosen to be.

Someone not willing to do even the basics for themselves should go without.

Yes, Yes. We all know how you like to rail against the people who are poor, because, and only because of their laziness and lack of good moral character. However, that does not have a damned think to do with Trumps tax proposal. What he is put on the table is a plan that will not only hurt the poor -many of who do work- but also the middle income folks . It is nothing more than a smokescreen for a big giveaway to the wealthy.

And consider this:

This tax cut isn’t for the middle class, which only pays 2.5% now

Today, most Americans aren’t clamoring for lower taxes, probably because most of us don’t pay very much in federal income taxes. Our tax burden has rarely been lower. The latest data show that the 60% of families in the middle of the income distribution — those between about $32,000 and about $140,000 — pay an average of just 2.5% of their income in federal income taxes.

And this:

Nearly half of Americans owe no federal income tax at all, but they do pay taxes: payroll taxes to fund Social Security and Medicare, tariffs, excise taxes, corporate taxes, property taxes, sales taxes, state and local income taxes, and so on. If they have a problem with taxes, it’s not with the federal income tax.

And that has to include many who are not poor

A bill that cuts federal income taxes for middle-class families makes absolutely no sense, except as a sad way of camouflaging the real intent of the bill: Giving millions of dollars to the very wealthy, who happen to be the only people who are really benefiting from our uneven economic growth.

Here is more for you to chew on:

Trump's Tax Plan Is An Act Of Political Domination By The Rich | HuffPost

Trump wants a massive tax cut for the very wealthy. He doesn’t really care how much it costs, or what it will do to the federal budget deficit, or to economic growth or to worker productivity. He isn’t even very picky about how, exactly, taxes for the rich are reduced, so long as they are diminished by a very large amount.

More:

GOP tax plan favors the richest, analysis shows

The new GOP tax framework would spread tax cuts across all income groups, with the richest Americans seeing the biggest windfall.

• And, if enacted, the package would blow a $2.4 trillion hole in the federal budget.

• That's the finding of an analysis by the Tax Policy Center, which crunched the numbers to come up with a preliminary estimate of the plan's costs and beneficiaries.

Now, as I asked earlier, how do you defend any of this? Whining about the lazy no good poor people is just a red herring

The poor contribute little to nothing to society. When are they going to pay their fair share. If they don't want to contribute their parts, that's OK. Don't expect to benefit from society like those that do their part.

The argument of they pay other taxes is meaningless. The only way that would mean something is if those of us paying income taxes didn't have to pay those others. We pay both. Your argument is foolish and nothing more than an excuse for people that do nothing to benefit society.

And what exactly is their " fair share" when they have so little? . What do you mean by " benefit to society"?? I just pointed out to you that most poor people work. They also have families and struggle to support them and raise their kids to be responsible and productive.

I'm foolish? Listen to yourself!! You are blinded by your disdain for anyone who you perceive as being a laggard- whether or not they are- and refuse to understand that poverty is not usually a product of individual failing but rather a systemic problem inherent in a capitalistic economy.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

I LOVE wealthy people I might be one of them soon if Obamas market keeps up

Lib please the first market downturn you will blame president Trump, bookmark this page!

No, we'll just fuck with all you phonies who gave him credit on the way up but won't blame him on the way down.

You have no credibility after 8 years of Obama, zero.

Blues try to be an honest broker here What was the DOW a month or 2 after Obama was elected and what was it when he left ?? And how many were employed during his 8 years in office and how far down did our unemployment sink? These are not difficult questions to answer Even JC sassy or bri could answer them

Obama's policies were anti jobs, anti business, and hurt not helped the stock market. An honest answer would be that the stock market improved IN SPITE OF Obama not with his help. Hence bragging about the so called Obama market is utter nonsense.

But feel free to post the Obama policies that you feel improved the stock market, you can't because they don't exist but try if you wish.

Oh really? Then how come the market is at record highs and we have had steady, impressive job growth over the last eight years? What alt- reality are you residing in??

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

No, we'll just fuck with all you phonies who gave him credit on the way up but won't blame him on the way down.

You have no credibility after 8 years of Obama, zero.

Blues try to be an honest broker here What was the DOW a month or 2 after Obama was elected and what was it when he left ?? And how many were employed during his 8 years in office and how far down did our unemployment sink? These are not difficult questions to answer Even JC sassy or bri could answer them

Obama's policies were anti jobs, anti business, and hurt not helped the stock market. An honest answer would be that the stock market improved IN SPITE OF Obama not with his help. Hence bragging about the so called Obama market is utter nonsense.

But feel free to post the Obama policies that you feel improved the stock market, you can't because they don't exist but try if you wish.

When a president isn't a wild man ,half crazy like trump ,it might give people a feeling of confidence,,like they had with Obama

You live in the land of make believe, Obama and his policies did not inspire the stock market to grow just the opposite.

Would you be so kind as to explain that? Are you saying that if it were not for Obama, the Dow would be at 30K now, and that there would be hundreds of thousand more jobs? There fact is that there are plenty of jobs right now. The problem is matching qualified workers to those jobs. We are close to full employment.

 

[eddiew37]

You have no credibility after 8 years of Obama, zero.

Blues try to be an honest broker here What was the DOW a month or 2 after Obama was elected and what was it when he left ?? And how many were employed during his 8 years in office and how far down did our unemployment sink? These are not difficult questions to answer Even JC sassy or bri could answer them

Obama's policies were anti jobs, anti business, and hurt not helped the stock market. An honest answer would be that the stock market improved IN SPITE OF Obama not with his help. Hence bragging about the so called Obama market is utter nonsense.

But feel free to post the Obama policies that you feel improved the stock market, you can't because they don't exist but try if you wish.

When a president isn't a wild man ,half crazy like trump ,it might give people a feeling of confidence,,like they had with Obama

You live in the land of make believe, Obama and his policies did not inspire the stock market to grow just the opposite.

Would you be so kind as to explain that? Are you saying that if it were not for Obama, the Dow would be at 30K now, and that there would be hundreds of thousand more jobs? There fact is that there are plenty of jobs right now. The problem is matching qualified workers to those jobs. We are close to full employment.

And it was Obamas fault we had 75 straight months of 6 digit employment,,,,,,and 8 quarters of 3% GDP or more

 

[NYcarbineer]

Blues try to be an honest broker here What was the DOW a month or 2 after Obama was elected and what was it when he left ?? And how many were employed during his 8 years in office and how far down did our unemployment sink? These are not difficult questions to answer Even JC sassy or bri could answer them

Obama's policies were anti jobs, anti business, and hurt not helped the stock market. An honest answer would be that the stock market improved IN SPITE OF Obama not with his help. Hence bragging about the so called Obama market is utter nonsense.

But feel free to post the Obama policies that you feel improved the stock market, you can't because they don't exist but try if you wish.

So the stock market is going up now in spite of Trump.

lol, I win.

And the trump dumb bell is taking the credit Low interest and good earnings are all trumps doing?? lol

Since Trump hasn't signed a single significant piece of legislation, period,

anyone who claims the market performance belongs to a president then it belongs to Obama.

OMG, you're serious! LMAO@you!!!!!!!!!!!!!

OMG, do you have an grownup version of that post?

 

[NYcarbineer]

well, at post #375, let's all just remember that yes, Trump lied shamelessly about his tax plan.

 

[eddiew37]

well, at post #375, let's all just remember that yes, Trump lied shamelessly about his tax plan.

But all his sheep believe him

 

[NYcarbineer]

well, at post #375, let's all just remember that yes, Trump lied shamelessly about his tax plan.

But all his sheep believe him

They don't care. They believe that Trump is entitled to 10,000 lies because Obama told three or four.

 

[eddiew37]

well, at post #375, let's all just remember that yes, Trump lied shamelessly about his tax plan.

But all his sheep believe him

They don't care. They believe that Trump is entitled to 10,000 lies because Obama told three or four.

And the 3 or 4 were more mistakes than lies Trump is a bald faced liar

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Blues try to be an honest broker here What was the DOW a month or 2 after Obama was elected and what was it when he left ?? And how many were employed during his 8 years in office and how far down did our unemployment sink? These are not difficult questions to answer Even JC sassy or bri could answer them

Obama's policies were anti jobs, anti business, and hurt not helped the stock market. An honest answer would be that the stock market improved IN SPITE OF Obama not with his help. Hence bragging about the so called Obama market is utter nonsense.

But feel free to post the Obama policies that you feel improved the stock market, you can't because they don't exist but try if you wish.

When a president isn't a wild man ,half crazy like trump ,it might give people a feeling of confidence,,like they had with Obama

You live in the land of make believe, Obama and his policies did not inspire the stock market to grow just the opposite.

Would you be so kind as to explain that? Are you saying that if it were not for Obama, the Dow would be at 30K now, and that there would be hundreds of thousand more jobs? There fact is that there are plenty of jobs right now. The problem is matching qualified workers to those jobs. We are close to full employment.

And it was Obamas fault we had 75 straight months of 6 digit employment,,,,,,and 8 quarters of 3% GDP or more

8 years with no years above 3% GDP. Isn't that what you meant?

 

[eddiew37]

Obama's policies were anti jobs, anti business, and hurt not helped the stock market. An honest answer would be that the stock market improved IN SPITE OF Obama not with his help. Hence bragging about the so called Obama market is utter nonsense.

But feel free to post the Obama policies that you feel improved the stock market, you can't because they don't exist but try if you wish.

When a president isn't a wild man ,half crazy like trump ,it might give people a feeling of confidence,,like they had with Obama

You live in the land of make believe, Obama and his policies did not inspire the stock market to grow just the opposite.

Would you be so kind as to explain that? Are you saying that if it were not for Obama, the Dow would be at 30K now, and that there would be hundreds of thousand more jobs? There fact is that there are plenty of jobs right now. The problem is matching qualified workers to those jobs. We are close to full employment.

And it was Obamas fault we had 75 straight months of 6 digit employment,,,,,,and 8 quarters of 3% GDP or more

8 years with no years above 3% GDP. Isn't that what you meant?

That is true but 8 quarters of 3% or better is true also Lets see how many years trump goes without I'm hoping for 4