Trump electable to ANYTHING? Not hardly

[browsing deer]

There is too much "press 9 for english" in our lives. That bugs me no end too. Actually it infuriates me. But Trump is not the cure.

 

[Flopper]

You're right, no one expects the candidate to know everything. However, just a little bit of knowledge would help.

To make good political decisions you need knowledge and experience. Each of the presidents advisories give the president recommendations and information within their field of expertise. However, it's the president that must evaluate the ramification of a decision on congress, the media, other head's of state, the economy, the budget, and both friends and foes. Using his knowledge and experience he must balance the pros and cons, risks and benefits of various decisions, not that of his advisers.

Often the president doesn't have advisers at his side to guide him through news conference, interviews, one on one talks with heads of state. It's his knowledge of the subject and of those he is dealing with that will determine his success.

In regard to foreign affairs, international relations knowledge is cumulative; without a decent base there’s no point in trying to be briefed on the arcane stuff. That would be like trying to learn calculus without knowing any algebra.

So what makes you think someone like Rubio or Kasich possesses any more such knowledge than Trump? He did graduate from the Wharton school of Business.

Rubio - City Commissioner in Miami
Graduated in Political Science
8 terms as member of the Florida House of Representatives
Currently US Senator from Florida
Member of the Foreign Relations Committee
Chairman of the Western Hemisphere Foreign Relations Sub-committee


Kasich - Member of the Ohio Senator
Graduated with degree in political science
Worked in Invest Banking
19 Years as Member of the US House of Repersentatives
6 years as Chairman of House Budget Committee
Governor of the State of Ohio

Trump - Graduated Warton School of Business
46 years experience in real estate, property management,development, and entertainment.

What's your point?

Who has made a vast fortune, has thousands of people working for him, and has hobnobbed with the rich and powerful all over the world?

You question Kasich and Rubio's knowledge compared to Trump.

That also describes Hillary Clinton who does actually have the political experience and more foreign policy experience than all the Republican candidates combined.

Hillary proved her foreign policy skills will lead us into disaster. You failed to prove that Rubio or Kasich have any more knowledge than Trump. What do they learn sitting in comity hearings that Trump can learn in a day by reading some reports?

Trump's problem is not just that he has no experience in foreign policy. He has no experience at anything even close to public service. He has 46 years of experience in real estate development and the entertainment industry. That's about as far off as you can get from working within the American bureaucracy, creating American foreign policy, creating domestic policy, and commanding the most power military in the world.

Trump has absolutely no experience working within government and he hasn't shown that he has any applicable knowledge. He's a comedian and the joke will be on the American people if he makes it to the presidency.

 

[bripat9643]

So what makes you think someone like Rubio or Kasich possesses any more such knowledge than Trump? He did graduate from the Wharton school of Business.

Rubio - City Commissioner in Miami
Graduated in Political Science
8 terms as member of the Florida House of Representatives
Currently US Senator from Florida
Member of the Foreign Relations Committee
Chairman of the Western Hemisphere Foreign Relations Sub-committee


Kasich - Member of the Ohio Senator
Graduated with degree in political science
Worked in Invest Banking
19 Years as Member of the US House of Repersentatives
6 years as Chairman of House Budget Committee
Governor of the State of Ohio

Trump - Graduated Warton School of Business
46 years experience in real estate, property management,development, and entertainment.

What's your point?

Who has made a vast fortune, has thousands of people working for him, and has hobnobbed with the rich and powerful all over the world?

You question Kasich and Rubio's knowledge compared to Trump.

That also describes Hillary Clinton who does actually have the political experience and more foreign policy experience than all the Republican candidates combined.

Hillary proved her foreign policy skills will lead us into disaster. You failed to prove that Rubio or Kasich have any more knowledge than Trump. What do they learn sitting in comity hearings that Trump can learn in a day by reading some reports?

Trump's problem is not just that he has no experience in foreign policy. He has no experience at anything even close to public service. He has 46 years of experience in real estate development and the entertainment industry. That's about as far off as you can get from working within the American bureaucracy, creating American foreign policy, creating domestic policy, and commanding the most power military in the world.

Trump has absolutely no experience working within government and he hasn't shown that he has any applicable knowledge. He's a comedian and the joke will be on the American people if he makes it to the presidency.

What kind of experience in so-called "public service" makes one qualified to be president? Shuffling papers? Log rolling? back scratching? Ass kissing?

Please, I'd really like to know

Trump is popular precisely because he has no experience in these areas.

 

[Flopper]

Rubio - City Commissioner in Miami
Graduated in Political Science
8 terms as member of the Florida House of Representatives
Currently US Senator from Florida
Member of the Foreign Relations Committee
Chairman of the Western Hemisphere Foreign Relations Sub-committee


Kasich - Member of the Ohio Senator
Graduated with degree in political science
Worked in Invest Banking
19 Years as Member of the US House of Repersentatives
6 years as Chairman of House Budget Committee
Governor of the State of Ohio

Trump - Graduated Warton School of Business
46 years experience in real estate, property management,development, and entertainment.

What's your point?

Who has made a vast fortune, has thousands of people working for him, and has hobnobbed with the rich and powerful all over the world?

You question Kasich and Rubio's knowledge compared to Trump.

That also describes Hillary Clinton who does actually have the political experience and more foreign policy experience than all the Republican candidates combined.

Hillary proved her foreign policy skills will lead us into disaster. You failed to prove that Rubio or Kasich have any more knowledge than Trump. What do they learn sitting in comity hearings that Trump can learn in a day by reading some reports?

Trump's problem is not just that he has no experience in foreign policy. He has no experience at anything even close to public service. He has 46 years of experience in real estate development and the entertainment industry. That's about as far off as you can get from working within the American bureaucracy, creating American foreign policy, creating domestic policy, and commanding the most power military in the world.

Trump has absolutely no experience working within government and he hasn't shown that he has any applicable knowledge. He's a comedian and the joke will be on the American people if he makes it to the presidency.

What kind of experience in so-called "public service" makes one qualified to be president? Shuffling papers? Log rolling? back scratching? Ass kissing?

Please, I'd really like to know

Trump is popular precisely because he has no experience in these areas.

Governing is good preparation for a presidential candidate which is why so many presidents are ex governors.. . Some people claim that being a CEO is good preparation for that. I disagree. CEOs have a very different constituency, shareholders, who can up and leave when they don't like it, and their goal is to make them wealthier. Governors don't produce profits; they manage things that specifically DON'T produce profits like roads, schools, social welfare programs, environmental protection. Governors must also deal with legislatures and law making, and law enforcement.

A background in law and political science are also excellent preparation for the presidency. A president needs to understand the political system and how government works. Structure, function, and working of government has almost no similarity to that of a business.

A background in international affairs is certainly a huge asset to a president. Understanding different cultures, different types of government and how those governments work, their foreign policies and the issues that drive their heads of state allow a president to construct a workable foreign policy.

There is only one reason why Trump is being considered for the presidency. It's certainly not his manage style, his adorable personality, or his experience in government. It's because a large minority of the population see our government as a failure and just want to try something totally different; put a man in charge that is not part of government who knows nothing about it so just maybe he will be able to work some kind of magic to fix America's problem. This of course, makes about as much sense as making a concert pianist, Chairman of the Federal Reserve because the closest he has come to management of the economy is balancing his check book.

 

[bripat9643]

What's your point?

Who has made a vast fortune, has thousands of people working for him, and has hobnobbed with the rich and powerful all over the world?

You question Kasich and Rubio's knowledge compared to Trump.

That also describes Hillary Clinton who does actually have the political experience and more foreign policy experience than all the Republican candidates combined.

Hillary proved her foreign policy skills will lead us into disaster. You failed to prove that Rubio or Kasich have any more knowledge than Trump. What do they learn sitting in comity hearings that Trump can learn in a day by reading some reports?

Trump's problem is not just that he has no experience in foreign policy. He has no experience at anything even close to public service. He has 46 years of experience in real estate development and the entertainment industry. That's about as far off as you can get from working within the American bureaucracy, creating American foreign policy, creating domestic policy, and commanding the most power military in the world.

Trump has absolutely no experience working within government and he hasn't shown that he has any applicable knowledge. He's a comedian and the joke will be on the American people if he makes it to the presidency.

What kind of experience in so-called "public service" makes one qualified to be president? Shuffling papers? Log rolling? back scratching? Ass kissing?

Please, I'd really like to know

Trump is popular precisely because he has no experience in these areas.

Governing is good preparation for a presidential candidate which is why so many presidents are ex governors.. . Some people claim that being a CEO is good preparation for that. I disagree. CEOs have a very different constituency, shareholders, who can up and leave when they don't like it, and their goal is to make them wealthier. Governors don't produce profits; they manage things that specifically DON'T produce profits like roads, schools, social welfare programs, environmental protection. Governors must also deal with legislatures and law making, and law enforcement.

A background in law and political science are also excellent preparation for the presidency. A president needs to understand the political system and how government works. Structure, function, and working of government has almost no similarity to that of a business.

A background in international affairs is certainly a huge asset to a president. Understanding different cultures, different types of government and how those governments work, their foreign policies and the issues that drive their heads of state allow a president to construct a workable foreign policy.

There is only one reason why Trump is being considered for the presidency. It's certainly not his manage style, his adorable personality, or his experience in government. It's because a large minority of the population see our government as a failure and just want to try something totally different; put a man in charge that is not part of government who knows nothing about it so just maybe he will be able to work some kind of magic to fix America's problem. This of course, makes about as much sense as making a concert pianist, Chairman of the Federal Reserve because the closest he has come to management of the economy is balancing his check book.

That's all horseshit. A politician is someone skill in several arts, all of which are disgraceful and disreputable. No honest man can make a living in politics in the long run.

A professional politician is a professionally dishonorable man. In order to get anywhere near high office he has to make so many compromises and submit to so many humiliations that he becomes indistinguishable from a streetwalker.​

These men, [politicians] in point of fact, are seldom if ever moved by anything rationally describable as public spirit; there is actually no more public spirit among them than among so many burglars or street-walkers. Their purpose, first, last and all the time, is to promote their private advantage, and to that end, and that end alone, they exercise all the vast powers that are in their hands … Whatever it is they seek, whether security, greater ease, more money or more power, it has to come out of the common stock, and so it diminishes the shares of all other men. Putting a new job-holder to work decreases the wages of every wage-earner in the land … Giving a job-holder more power takes something away from the liberty of all of us …

H. L. Mencken​

 

[Flopper]

You question Kasich and Rubio's knowledge compared to Trump.

That also describes Hillary Clinton who does actually have the political experience and more foreign policy experience than all the Republican candidates combined.

Hillary proved her foreign policy skills will lead us into disaster. You failed to prove that Rubio or Kasich have any more knowledge than Trump. What do they learn sitting in comity hearings that Trump can learn in a day by reading some reports?

Trump's problem is not just that he has no experience in foreign policy. He has no experience at anything even close to public service. He has 46 years of experience in real estate development and the entertainment industry. That's about as far off as you can get from working within the American bureaucracy, creating American foreign policy, creating domestic policy, and commanding the most power military in the world.

Trump has absolutely no experience working within government and he hasn't shown that he has any applicable knowledge. He's a comedian and the joke will be on the American people if he makes it to the presidency.

What kind of experience in so-called "public service" makes one qualified to be president? Shuffling papers? Log rolling? back scratching? Ass kissing?

Please, I'd really like to know

Trump is popular precisely because he has no experience in these areas.

Governing is good preparation for a presidential candidate which is why so many presidents are ex governors.. . Some people claim that being a CEO is good preparation for that. I disagree. CEOs have a very different constituency, shareholders, who can up and leave when they don't like it, and their goal is to make them wealthier. Governors don't produce profits; they manage things that specifically DON'T produce profits like roads, schools, social welfare programs, environmental protection. Governors must also deal with legislatures and law making, and law enforcement.

A background in law and political science are also excellent preparation for the presidency. A president needs to understand the political system and how government works. Structure, function, and working of government has almost no similarity to that of a business.

A background in international affairs is certainly a huge asset to a president. Understanding different cultures, different types of government and how those governments work, their foreign policies and the issues that drive their heads of state allow a president to construct a workable foreign policy.

There is only one reason why Trump is being considered for the presidency. It's certainly not his manage style, his adorable personality, or his experience in government. It's because a large minority of the population see our government as a failure and just want to try something totally different; put a man in charge that is not part of government who knows nothing about it so just maybe he will be able to work some kind of magic to fix America's problem. This of course, makes about as much sense as making a concert pianist, Chairman of the Federal Reserve because the closest he has come to management of the economy is balancing his check book.

That's all horseshit. A politician is someone skill in several arts, all of which are disgraceful and disreputable. No honest man can make a living in politics in the long run.

A professional politician is a professionally dishonorable man. In order to get anywhere near high office he has to make so many compromises and submit to so many humiliations that he becomes indistinguishable from a streetwalker.​

These men, [politicians] in point of fact, are seldom if ever moved by anything rationally describable as public spirit; there is actually no more public spirit among them than among so many burglars or street-walkers. Their purpose, first, last and all the time, is to promote their private advantage, and to that end, and that end alone, they exercise all the vast powers that are in their hands … Whatever it is they seek, whether security, greater ease, more money or more power, it has to come out of the common stock, and so it diminishes the shares of all other men. Putting a new job-holder to work decreases the wages of every wage-earner in the land … Giving a job-holder more power takes something away from the liberty of all of us …

H. L. Mencken​

Ok, so you hate politicians but they are a fact of life in this country. You can elect someone that actual knows how to work within the bureaucracy or someone who doesn't have a clue. And Trump certain has no idea how he would accomplish anything he has promised. That's why he can't tell you how he would do anything. Even worse he reverses and contradicts himself over and over.

Immigration -. He has stated over and over they all (illegal immigrants) must go. He says, I will see that anyone in this country illegally leaves. Then he says, after the wall is build some will be allow to state. Later he says I will make no exceptions, they have to go. Then he says, for those that are exceptional, he'll work something out. He can't say how he would do any of this because he just doesn't know what he would do as president probably because he doesn't know what he can do.

 

[oreo]

Oh, the PAIN the CommiecRATS and RINO'S must be going through.....ROTFLMFAO!!!!!!

Latest National Poll: Donald Trump CRUSHES Field – 36% Support, No-One Even Close…

http://theconservativetreehouse.com ^ | September 7, 2015 | sundance
With favorables improving, unfavorables decreasing and two-thirds of the electorate now believing Trump can win the nomination, the latest YouGov National Poll shows Donald Trump dominating the rest of the field.This is the eighth consecutive regional and national poll with Jeb Bush in single digits; a devastating reality for the RNC/GOPe machine. The debate this week will be their final opportunity to save Jeb – the pressure is astronomical, and you can guarantee Fiorina and Rubio will be called upon to deliver the goods and take out Trump. Donald Trump, on the other hand, doesn’t even need the debate. Full...

Hate to throw water on your fire here, but when Trump blew it on the foreign terrorist leaders--the journalist was a CONSERVATIVE TALK SHOW HOST--Da Duh. It appears that any media asking Donald Trump questions, that he can't answer is the ENEMY.


"A radio host who will co-moderate the Sept. 16 Republican primary debate in California stumped Donald Trump on Thursday with tough questions about Middle Eastern terror leaders, but heard clear answers a few hours later from the billionaire's rival Carly Fiorina.

Trump's interview with conservative broadcaster Hugh Hewitt hadn't yet aired when Fiorina rattled off responses to questions about the leaders of Hezbollah, al-Qaeda, the al-Nusra Front and the ISIS terror army.

'I'm looking for the next commander-in-chief to know who Hassan Nasrallah is, and Zawahiri, and al-Julani, and al-Baghdadi,' Hewitt told Trump. 'Do you know the players without a scorecard yet? 'No,' the business tycoon replied.

FIORINA faced with the same challenge, conceded that it's easy to 'get confused a bit between the name and group because they sound a bit alike sometimes, so I have to pause and think sometimes.''But, I certainly know all those names both of the individual leaders and of the terrorist groups. I certainly understand where these terrorists are in play.' Hamas is focused in Palestinian territories,' Fiorina added. 'Hezbollah focuses in Beirut and other places. But the truth is both of them are proxies of Iran. Both of them threaten Israel. Both of them are going to be benefiting from the agreement which Obama and Kerry have struck with Iran.'

Trump's approach was to deflect the question rather than answer it. You know, I'll tell you honestly – I think by the time we get to office, they'll all be changed,' he said. 'They'll be all gone.'

Trump would later claim Hewitt had asked him a 'gotcha question.' But he conceded that 'I knew you were going to ask me things like this.'

Fiorina insisted that 'I don’t think they’re "gotcha questions" at all.' She focused on describing 'the depth of the ideology that Israel cannot exist, and so Hamas or Hezbollah or the Quds force or Al-Nusra or the Supreme Leader in Iran chant "Death to America," closely followed by "We must wipe Israel off the face of the map".' 'This isn't a joke,' she said.

But that didn't stop The Donald from blasting Hewitt on Friday morning as a 'third-rate radio announcer' curing an appearance on the MSBNC 'Morning Joe' program."
Trump stymped on terror questions but Carly knows the answers cold

Conservative talk show host Hugh Hewitt--the guy that beat up on poor--poor Donald Trump.

The best intelligence briefings and foreign policy advisers in the world are not a substitute for knowledge of foreign policy. The same can be said of how the federal government operates, governmental finance, economic policy, the lawmaking process, and the justice system, No president of course knows it all but a president should have at least some applicable knowledge and experience which Trump just doesn't have. Presidents make decisions based on the knowledge and experience they bring to the office. If that knowledge and experience is running a real estate and property development business and a reality TV show, then that will be the basic knowledge and experience he will draw on for his decisions as president.

If you bring your experience to the oval office, then we must assume this with Trump

 

[Pogo]

Hillary proved her foreign policy skills will lead us into disaster. You failed to prove that Rubio or Kasich have any more knowledge than Trump. What do they learn sitting in comity hearings that Trump can learn in a day by reading some reports?

Trump's problem is not just that he has no experience in foreign policy. He has no experience at anything even close to public service. He has 46 years of experience in real estate development and the entertainment industry. That's about as far off as you can get from working within the American bureaucracy, creating American foreign policy, creating domestic policy, and commanding the most power military in the world.

Trump has absolutely no experience working within government and he hasn't shown that he has any applicable knowledge. He's a comedian and the joke will be on the American people if he makes it to the presidency.

What kind of experience in so-called "public service" makes one qualified to be president? Shuffling papers? Log rolling? back scratching? Ass kissing?

Please, I'd really like to know

Trump is popular precisely because he has no experience in these areas.

Governing is good preparation for a presidential candidate which is why so many presidents are ex governors.. . Some people claim that being a CEO is good preparation for that. I disagree. CEOs have a very different constituency, shareholders, who can up and leave when they don't like it, and their goal is to make them wealthier. Governors don't produce profits; they manage things that specifically DON'T produce profits like roads, schools, social welfare programs, environmental protection. Governors must also deal with legislatures and law making, and law enforcement.

A background in law and political science are also excellent preparation for the presidency. A president needs to understand the political system and how government works. Structure, function, and working of government has almost no similarity to that of a business.

A background in international affairs is certainly a huge asset to a president. Understanding different cultures, different types of government and how those governments work, their foreign policies and the issues that drive their heads of state allow a president to construct a workable foreign policy.

There is only one reason why Trump is being considered for the presidency. It's certainly not his manage style, his adorable personality, or his experience in government. It's because a large minority of the population see our government as a failure and just want to try something totally different; put a man in charge that is not part of government who knows nothing about it so just maybe he will be able to work some kind of magic to fix America's problem. This of course, makes about as much sense as making a concert pianist, Chairman of the Federal Reserve because the closest he has come to management of the economy is balancing his check book.

That's all horseshit. A politician is someone skill in several arts, all of which are disgraceful and disreputable. No honest man can make a living in politics in the long run.

A professional politician is a professionally dishonorable man. In order to get anywhere near high office he has to make so many compromises and submit to so many humiliations that he becomes indistinguishable from a streetwalker.​

These men, [politicians] in point of fact, are seldom if ever moved by anything rationally describable as public spirit; there is actually no more public spirit among them than among so many burglars or street-walkers. Their purpose, first, last and all the time, is to promote their private advantage, and to that end, and that end alone, they exercise all the vast powers that are in their hands … Whatever it is they seek, whether security, greater ease, more money or more power, it has to come out of the common stock, and so it diminishes the shares of all other men. Putting a new job-holder to work decreases the wages of every wage-earner in the land … Giving a job-holder more power takes something away from the liberty of all of us …

H. L. Mencken​

Ok, so you hate politicians but they are a fact of life in this country. You can elect someone that actual knows how to work within the bureaucracy or someone who doesn't have a clue. And Trump certain has no idea how he would accomplish anything he has promised. That's why he can't tell you how he would do anything. Even worse he reverses and contradicts himself over and over.

Immigration -. He has stated over and over they all (illegal immigrants) must go. He says, I will see that anyone in this country illegally leaves. Then he says, after the wall is build some will be allow to state. Later he says I will make no exceptions, they have to go. Then he says, for those that are exceptional, he'll work something out. He can't say how he would do any of this because he just doesn't know what he would do as president probably because he doesn't know what he can do.

And he started all that by saying "they're rapists. And some I assume are good people".

 

[oreo]

Hillary proved her foreign policy skills will lead us into disaster. You failed to prove that Rubio or Kasich have any more knowledge than Trump. What do they learn sitting in comity hearings that Trump can learn in a day by reading some reports?

Trump's problem is not just that he has no experience in foreign policy. He has no experience at anything even close to public service. He has 46 years of experience in real estate development and the entertainment industry. That's about as far off as you can get from working within the American bureaucracy, creating American foreign policy, creating domestic policy, and commanding the most power military in the world.

Trump has absolutely no experience working within government and he hasn't shown that he has any applicable knowledge. He's a comedian and the joke will be on the American people if he makes it to the presidency.

What kind of experience in so-called "public service" makes one qualified to be president? Shuffling papers? Log rolling? back scratching? Ass kissing?

Please, I'd really like to know

Trump is popular precisely because he has no experience in these areas.

Governing is good preparation for a presidential candidate which is why so many presidents are ex governors.. . Some people claim that being a CEO is good preparation for that. I disagree. CEOs have a very different constituency, shareholders, who can up and leave when they don't like it, and their goal is to make them wealthier. Governors don't produce profits; they manage things that specifically DON'T produce profits like roads, schools, social welfare programs, environmental protection. Governors must also deal with legislatures and law making, and law enforcement.

A background in law and political science are also excellent preparation for the presidency. A president needs to understand the political system and how government works. Structure, function, and working of government has almost no similarity to that of a business.

A background in international affairs is certainly a huge asset to a president. Understanding different cultures, different types of government and how those governments work, their foreign policies and the issues that drive their heads of state allow a president to construct a workable foreign policy.

There is only one reason why Trump is being considered for the presidency. It's certainly not his manage style, his adorable personality, or his experience in government. It's because a large minority of the population see our government as a failure and just want to try something totally different; put a man in charge that is not part of government who knows nothing about it so just maybe he will be able to work some kind of magic to fix America's problem. This of course, makes about as much sense as making a concert pianist, Chairman of the Federal Reserve because the closest he has come to management of the economy is balancing his check book.

That's all horseshit. A politician is someone skill in several arts, all of which are disgraceful and disreputable. No honest man can make a living in politics in the long run.

A professional politician is a professionally dishonorable man. In order to get anywhere near high office he has to make so many compromises and submit to so many humiliations that he becomes indistinguishable from a streetwalker.​

These men, [politicians] in point of fact, are seldom if ever moved by anything rationally describable as public spirit; there is actually no more public spirit among them than among so many burglars or street-walkers. Their purpose, first, last and all the time, is to promote their private advantage, and to that end, and that end alone, they exercise all the vast powers that are in their hands … Whatever it is they seek, whether security, greater ease, more money or more power, it has to come out of the common stock, and so it diminishes the shares of all other men. Putting a new job-holder to work decreases the wages of every wage-earner in the land … Giving a job-holder more power takes something away from the liberty of all of us …

H. L. Mencken​

Ok, so you hate politicians but they are a fact of life in this country. You can elect someone that actual knows how to work within the bureaucracy or someone who doesn't have a clue. And Trump certain has no idea how he would accomplish anything he has promised. That's why he can't tell you how he would do anything. Even worse he reverses and contradicts himself over and over.

Immigration -. He has stated over and over they all (illegal immigrants) must go. He says, I will see that anyone in this country illegally leaves. Then he says, after the wall is build some will be allow to state. Later he says I will make no exceptions, they have to go. Then he says, for those that are exceptional, he'll work something out. He can't say how he would do any of this because he just doesn't know what he would do as president probably because he doesn't know what he can do.

That's the problem--no one can figure out what Donald Trump is. He's flip flopped so many times on every single issue--it's hard to count them. He's changed his party status at least 5 times.
Donald Trump changed political parties at least five times: report - Washington Times

And when Hillary Clinton has been more conservative than Donald Trump there's definitely a problem.

I've never trusted Donald Trump, nor will I ever--no matter how much bullshit comes out of his mouth.

Americans aren't going to elect an ignorant, flip-flopping-insulting douch bag for President.

 

[bripat9643]

Hillary proved her foreign policy skills will lead us into disaster. You failed to prove that Rubio or Kasich have any more knowledge than Trump. What do they learn sitting in comity hearings that Trump can learn in a day by reading some reports?

Trump's problem is not just that he has no experience in foreign policy. He has no experience at anything even close to public service. He has 46 years of experience in real estate development and the entertainment industry. That's about as far off as you can get from working within the American bureaucracy, creating American foreign policy, creating domestic policy, and commanding the most power military in the world.

Trump has absolutely no experience working within government and he hasn't shown that he has any applicable knowledge. He's a comedian and the joke will be on the American people if he makes it to the presidency.

What kind of experience in so-called "public service" makes one qualified to be president? Shuffling papers? Log rolling? back scratching? Ass kissing?

Please, I'd really like to know

Trump is popular precisely because he has no experience in these areas.

Governing is good preparation for a presidential candidate which is why so many presidents are ex governors.. . Some people claim that being a CEO is good preparation for that. I disagree. CEOs have a very different constituency, shareholders, who can up and leave when they don't like it, and their goal is to make them wealthier. Governors don't produce profits; they manage things that specifically DON'T produce profits like roads, schools, social welfare programs, environmental protection. Governors must also deal with legislatures and law making, and law enforcement.

A background in law and political science are also excellent preparation for the presidency. A president needs to understand the political system and how government works. Structure, function, and working of government has almost no similarity to that of a business.

A background in international affairs is certainly a huge asset to a president. Understanding different cultures, different types of government and how those governments work, their foreign policies and the issues that drive their heads of state allow a president to construct a workable foreign policy.

There is only one reason why Trump is being considered for the presidency. It's certainly not his manage style, his adorable personality, or his experience in government. It's because a large minority of the population see our government as a failure and just want to try something totally different; put a man in charge that is not part of government who knows nothing about it so just maybe he will be able to work some kind of magic to fix America's problem. This of course, makes about as much sense as making a concert pianist, Chairman of the Federal Reserve because the closest he has come to management of the economy is balancing his check book.

That's all horseshit. A politician is someone skill in several arts, all of which are disgraceful and disreputable. No honest man can make a living in politics in the long run.

A professional politician is a professionally dishonorable man. In order to get anywhere near high office he has to make so many compromises and submit to so many humiliations that he becomes indistinguishable from a streetwalker.​

These men, [politicians] in point of fact, are seldom if ever moved by anything rationally describable as public spirit; there is actually no more public spirit among them than among so many burglars or street-walkers. Their purpose, first, last and all the time, is to promote their private advantage, and to that end, and that end alone, they exercise all the vast powers that are in their hands … Whatever it is they seek, whether security, greater ease, more money or more power, it has to come out of the common stock, and so it diminishes the shares of all other men. Putting a new job-holder to work decreases the wages of every wage-earner in the land … Giving a job-holder more power takes something away from the liberty of all of us …

H. L. Mencken​

Ok, so you hate politicians but they are a fact of life in this country. You can elect someone that actual knows how to work within the bureaucracy or someone who doesn't have a clue. And Trump certain has no idea how he would accomplish anything he has promised. That's why he can't tell you how he would do anything. Even worse he reverses and contradicts himself over and over.

Immigration -. He has stated over and over they all (illegal immigrants) must go. He says, I will see that anyone in this country illegally leaves. Then he says, after the wall is build some will be allow to state. Later he says I will make no exceptions, they have to go. Then he says, for those that are exceptional, he'll work something out. He can't say how he would do any of this because he just doesn't know what he would do as president probably because he doesn't know what he can do.

Organized crime, drug dealers and prostitutes are also facts of life in this country. That doesn't mean we should admire them. The fact that Trump doesn't have the details nailed down exactly doesn't bother me. Have any of the other candidates enunciated a plan of any kind for dealing with the problem? No, they just give you their laundry list of what we can't do.

Consistency isn't a trait commonly found among politicians, so I don't see why you are demanding it from Trump.

 

[bripat9643]

Trump's problem is not just that he has no experience in foreign policy. He has no experience at anything even close to public service. He has 46 years of experience in real estate development and the entertainment industry. That's about as far off as you can get from working within the American bureaucracy, creating American foreign policy, creating domestic policy, and commanding the most power military in the world.

Trump has absolutely no experience working within government and he hasn't shown that he has any applicable knowledge. He's a comedian and the joke will be on the American people if he makes it to the presidency.

What kind of experience in so-called "public service" makes one qualified to be president? Shuffling papers? Log rolling? back scratching? Ass kissing?

Please, I'd really like to know

Trump is popular precisely because he has no experience in these areas.

Governing is good preparation for a presidential candidate which is why so many presidents are ex governors.. . Some people claim that being a CEO is good preparation for that. I disagree. CEOs have a very different constituency, shareholders, who can up and leave when they don't like it, and their goal is to make them wealthier. Governors don't produce profits; they manage things that specifically DON'T produce profits like roads, schools, social welfare programs, environmental protection. Governors must also deal with legislatures and law making, and law enforcement.

A background in law and political science are also excellent preparation for the presidency. A president needs to understand the political system and how government works. Structure, function, and working of government has almost no similarity to that of a business.

A background in international affairs is certainly a huge asset to a president. Understanding different cultures, different types of government and how those governments work, their foreign policies and the issues that drive their heads of state allow a president to construct a workable foreign policy.

There is only one reason why Trump is being considered for the presidency. It's certainly not his manage style, his adorable personality, or his experience in government. It's because a large minority of the population see our government as a failure and just want to try something totally different; put a man in charge that is not part of government who knows nothing about it so just maybe he will be able to work some kind of magic to fix America's problem. This of course, makes about as much sense as making a concert pianist, Chairman of the Federal Reserve because the closest he has come to management of the economy is balancing his check book.

That's all horseshit. A politician is someone skill in several arts, all of which are disgraceful and disreputable. No honest man can make a living in politics in the long run.

A professional politician is a professionally dishonorable man. In order to get anywhere near high office he has to make so many compromises and submit to so many humiliations that he becomes indistinguishable from a streetwalker.​

These men, [politicians] in point of fact, are seldom if ever moved by anything rationally describable as public spirit; there is actually no more public spirit among them than among so many burglars or street-walkers. Their purpose, first, last and all the time, is to promote their private advantage, and to that end, and that end alone, they exercise all the vast powers that are in their hands … Whatever it is they seek, whether security, greater ease, more money or more power, it has to come out of the common stock, and so it diminishes the shares of all other men. Putting a new job-holder to work decreases the wages of every wage-earner in the land … Giving a job-holder more power takes something away from the liberty of all of us …

H. L. Mencken​

Ok, so you hate politicians but they are a fact of life in this country. You can elect someone that actual knows how to work within the bureaucracy or someone who doesn't have a clue. And Trump certain has no idea how he would accomplish anything he has promised. That's why he can't tell you how he would do anything. Even worse he reverses and contradicts himself over and over.

Immigration -. He has stated over and over they all (illegal immigrants) must go. He says, I will see that anyone in this country illegally leaves. Then he says, after the wall is build some will be allow to state. Later he says I will make no exceptions, they have to go. Then he says, for those that are exceptional, he'll work something out. He can't say how he would do any of this because he just doesn't know what he would do as president probably because he doesn't know what he can do.

That's the problem--no one can figure out what Donald Trump is. He's flip flopped so many times on every single issue--it's hard to count them. He's changed his party status at least 5 times.
Donald Trump changed political parties at least five times: report - Washington Times

And when Hillary Clinton has been more conservative than Donald Trump there's definitely a problem.

I've never trusted Donald Trump, nor will I ever--no matter how much bullshit comes out of his mouth.

Americans aren't going to elect an ignorant, flip-flopping-insulting douch bag for President.

Yeah, because we all know you intended to vote for a Republican before Trump go into the race.

Right.

 

[browsing deer]

Trump's problem is not just that he has no experience in foreign policy. He has no experience at anything even close to public service. He has 46 years of experience in real estate development and the entertainment industry. That's about as far off as you can get from working within the American bureaucracy, creating American foreign policy, creating domestic policy, and commanding the most power military in the world.

Trump has absolutely no experience working within government and he hasn't shown that he has any applicable knowledge. He's a comedian and the joke will be on the American people if he makes it to the presidency.

What kind of experience in so-called "public service" makes one qualified to be president? Shuffling papers? Log rolling? back scratching? Ass kissing?

Please, I'd really like to know

Trump is popular precisely because he has no experience in these areas.

Governing is good preparation for a presidential candidate which is why so many presidents are ex governors.. . Some people claim that being a CEO is good preparation for that. I disagree. CEOs have a very different constituency, shareholders, who can up and leave when they don't like it, and their goal is to make them wealthier. Governors don't produce profits; they manage things that specifically DON'T produce profits like roads, schools, social welfare programs, environmental protection. Governors must also deal with legislatures and law making, and law enforcement.

A background in law and political science are also excellent preparation for the presidency. A president needs to understand the political system and how government works. Structure, function, and working of government has almost no similarity to that of a business.

A background in international affairs is certainly a huge asset to a president. Understanding different cultures, different types of government and how those governments work, their foreign policies and the issues that drive their heads of state allow a president to construct a workable foreign policy.

There is only one reason why Trump is being considered for the presidency. It's certainly not his manage style, his adorable personality, or his experience in government. It's because a large minority of the population see our government as a failure and just want to try something totally different; put a man in charge that is not part of government who knows nothing about it so just maybe he will be able to work some kind of magic to fix America's problem. This of course, makes about as much sense as making a concert pianist, Chairman of the Federal Reserve because the closest he has come to management of the economy is balancing his check book.

That's all horseshit. A politician is someone skill in several arts, all of which are disgraceful and disreputable. No honest man can make a living in politics in the long run.

A professional politician is a professionally dishonorable man. In order to get anywhere near high office he has to make so many compromises and submit to so many humiliations that he becomes indistinguishable from a streetwalker.​

These men, [politicians] in point of fact, are seldom if ever moved by anything rationally describable as public spirit; there is actually no more public spirit among them than among so many burglars or street-walkers. Their purpose, first, last and all the time, is to promote their private advantage, and to that end, and that end alone, they exercise all the vast powers that are in their hands … Whatever it is they seek, whether security, greater ease, more money or more power, it has to come out of the common stock, and so it diminishes the shares of all other men. Putting a new job-holder to work decreases the wages of every wage-earner in the land … Giving a job-holder more power takes something away from the liberty of all of us …

H. L. Mencken​

Ok, so you hate politicians but they are a fact of life in this country. You can elect someone that actual knows how to work within the bureaucracy or someone who doesn't have a clue. And Trump certain has no idea how he would accomplish anything he has promised. That's why he can't tell you how he would do anything. Even worse he reverses and contradicts himself over and over.

Immigration -. He has stated over and over they all (illegal immigrants) must go. He says, I will see that anyone in this country illegally leaves. Then he says, after the wall is build some will be allow to state. Later he says I will make no exceptions, they have to go. Then he says, for those that are exceptional, he'll work something out. He can't say how he would do any of this because he just doesn't know what he would do as president probably because he doesn't know what he can do.

That's the problem--no one can figure out what Donald Trump is. He's flip flopped so many times on every single issue--it's hard to count them. He's changed his party status at least 5 times.
Donald Trump changed political parties at least five times: report - Washington Times

And when Hillary Clinton has been more conservative than Donald Trump there's definitely a problem.

I've never trusted Donald Trump, nor will I ever--no matter how much bullshit comes out of his mouth.

Americans aren't going to elect an ignorant, flip-flopping-insulting douch bag for President.

Nor will they elect a stooge.... He will quit before they get a chance

 

[Flopper]

Trump's problem is not just that he has no experience in foreign policy. He has no experience at anything even close to public service. He has 46 years of experience in real estate development and the entertainment industry. That's about as far off as you can get from working within the American bureaucracy, creating American foreign policy, creating domestic policy, and commanding the most power military in the world.

Trump has absolutely no experience working within government and he hasn't shown that he has any applicable knowledge. He's a comedian and the joke will be on the American people if he makes it to the presidency.

What kind of experience in so-called "public service" makes one qualified to be president? Shuffling papers? Log rolling? back scratching? Ass kissing?

Please, I'd really like to know

Trump is popular precisely because he has no experience in these areas.

Governing is good preparation for a presidential candidate which is why so many presidents are ex governors.. . Some people claim that being a CEO is good preparation for that. I disagree. CEOs have a very different constituency, shareholders, who can up and leave when they don't like it, and their goal is to make them wealthier. Governors don't produce profits; they manage things that specifically DON'T produce profits like roads, schools, social welfare programs, environmental protection. Governors must also deal with legislatures and law making, and law enforcement.

A background in law and political science are also excellent preparation for the presidency. A president needs to understand the political system and how government works. Structure, function, and working of government has almost no similarity to that of a business.

A background in international affairs is certainly a huge asset to a president. Understanding different cultures, different types of government and how those governments work, their foreign policies and the issues that drive their heads of state allow a president to construct a workable foreign policy.

There is only one reason why Trump is being considered for the presidency. It's certainly not his manage style, his adorable personality, or his experience in government. It's because a large minority of the population see our government as a failure and just want to try something totally different; put a man in charge that is not part of government who knows nothing about it so just maybe he will be able to work some kind of magic to fix America's problem. This of course, makes about as much sense as making a concert pianist, Chairman of the Federal Reserve because the closest he has come to management of the economy is balancing his check book.

That's all horseshit. A politician is someone skill in several arts, all of which are disgraceful and disreputable. No honest man can make a living in politics in the long run.

A professional politician is a professionally dishonorable man. In order to get anywhere near high office he has to make so many compromises and submit to so many humiliations that he becomes indistinguishable from a streetwalker.​

These men, [politicians] in point of fact, are seldom if ever moved by anything rationally describable as public spirit; there is actually no more public spirit among them than among so many burglars or street-walkers. Their purpose, first, last and all the time, is to promote their private advantage, and to that end, and that end alone, they exercise all the vast powers that are in their hands … Whatever it is they seek, whether security, greater ease, more money or more power, it has to come out of the common stock, and so it diminishes the shares of all other men. Putting a new job-holder to work decreases the wages of every wage-earner in the land … Giving a job-holder more power takes something away from the liberty of all of us …

H. L. Mencken​

Ok, so you hate politicians but they are a fact of life in this country. You can elect someone that actual knows how to work within the bureaucracy or someone who doesn't have a clue. And Trump certain has no idea how he would accomplish anything he has promised. That's why he can't tell you how he would do anything. Even worse he reverses and contradicts himself over and over.

Immigration -. He has stated over and over they all (illegal immigrants) must go. He says, I will see that anyone in this country illegally leaves. Then he says, after the wall is build some will be allow to state. Later he says I will make no exceptions, they have to go. Then he says, for those that are exceptional, he'll work something out. He can't say how he would do any of this because he just doesn't know what he would do as president probably because he doesn't know what he can do.

That's the problem--no one can figure out what Donald Trump is. He's flip flopped so many times on every single issue--it's hard to count them. He's changed his party status at least 5 times.
Donald Trump changed political parties at least five times: report - Washington Times

And when Hillary Clinton has been more conservative than Donald Trump there's definitely a problem.

I've never trusted Donald Trump, nor will I ever--no matter how much bullshit comes out of his mouth.

Americans aren't going to elect an ignorant, flip-flopping-insulting douch bag for President.

Although I think it's unlikely that the voters might elect Trump, I wouldn't count him out just yet. People are pretty discussed with Washington, and they are looking for something different and Trump is about as different as you can get. Many people want a scrapper, a bulldog, someone that won't let political correctness, congress, the courts, or laws stand in his way; someone that will tell the Russians where to get off, kick some Muslim ass, throw all the illegals out the country, etc, etc. I guess everyone thinks this way occasional, particular after a few beers with the guys on Wednesday night. However, a lot of Trump supporters really believe this is what the nation needs and that's pretty scary because that's when we become a nation no longer ruled by law and reason but fear and hate.

 

[Flopper]

Trump's problem is not just that he has no experience in foreign policy. He has no experience at anything even close to public service. He has 46 years of experience in real estate development and the entertainment industry. That's about as far off as you can get from working within the American bureaucracy, creating American foreign policy, creating domestic policy, and commanding the most power military in the world.

Trump has absolutely no experience working within government and he hasn't shown that he has any applicable knowledge. He's a comedian and the joke will be on the American people if he makes it to the presidency.

What kind of experience in so-called "public service" makes one qualified to be president? Shuffling papers? Log rolling? back scratching? Ass kissing?

Please, I'd really like to know

Trump is popular precisely because he has no experience in these areas.

Governing is good preparation for a presidential candidate which is why so many presidents are ex governors.. . Some people claim that being a CEO is good preparation for that. I disagree. CEOs have a very different constituency, shareholders, who can up and leave when they don't like it, and their goal is to make them wealthier. Governors don't produce profits; they manage things that specifically DON'T produce profits like roads, schools, social welfare programs, environmental protection. Governors must also deal with legislatures and law making, and law enforcement.

A background in law and political science are also excellent preparation for the presidency. A president needs to understand the political system and how government works. Structure, function, and working of government has almost no similarity to that of a business.

A background in international affairs is certainly a huge asset to a president. Understanding different cultures, different types of government and how those governments work, their foreign policies and the issues that drive their heads of state allow a president to construct a workable foreign policy.

There is only one reason why Trump is being considered for the presidency. It's certainly not his manage style, his adorable personality, or his experience in government. It's because a large minority of the population see our government as a failure and just want to try something totally different; put a man in charge that is not part of government who knows nothing about it so just maybe he will be able to work some kind of magic to fix America's problem. This of course, makes about as much sense as making a concert pianist, Chairman of the Federal Reserve because the closest he has come to management of the economy is balancing his check book.

That's all horseshit. A politician is someone skill in several arts, all of which are disgraceful and disreputable. No honest man can make a living in politics in the long run.

A professional politician is a professionally dishonorable man. In order to get anywhere near high office he has to make so many compromises and submit to so many humiliations that he becomes indistinguishable from a streetwalker.​

These men, [politicians] in point of fact, are seldom if ever moved by anything rationally describable as public spirit; there is actually no more public spirit among them than among so many burglars or street-walkers. Their purpose, first, last and all the time, is to promote their private advantage, and to that end, and that end alone, they exercise all the vast powers that are in their hands … Whatever it is they seek, whether security, greater ease, more money or more power, it has to come out of the common stock, and so it diminishes the shares of all other men. Putting a new job-holder to work decreases the wages of every wage-earner in the land … Giving a job-holder more power takes something away from the liberty of all of us …

H. L. Mencken​

Ok, so you hate politicians but they are a fact of life in this country. You can elect someone that actual knows how to work within the bureaucracy or someone who doesn't have a clue. And Trump certain has no idea how he would accomplish anything he has promised. That's why he can't tell you how he would do anything. Even worse he reverses and contradicts himself over and over.

Immigration -. He has stated over and over they all (illegal immigrants) must go. He says, I will see that anyone in this country illegally leaves. Then he says, after the wall is build some will be allow to state. Later he says I will make no exceptions, they have to go. Then he says, for those that are exceptional, he'll work something out. He can't say how he would do any of this because he just doesn't know what he would do as president probably because he doesn't know what he can do.

Organized crime, drug dealers and prostitutes are also facts of life in this country. That doesn't mean we should admire them. The fact that Trump doesn't have the details nailed down exactly doesn't bother me. Have any of the other candidates enunciated a plan of any kind for dealing with the problem? No, they just give you their laundry list of what we can't do.

Consistency isn't a trait commonly found among politicians, so I don't see why you are demanding it from Trump.

Throwing every illegal in the country out, destroying Arab oil fields, putting tariffs on imports from our major trading partners are not details.

 

[bripat9643]

What kind of experience in so-called "public service" makes one qualified to be president? Shuffling papers? Log rolling? back scratching? Ass kissing?

Please, I'd really like to know

Trump is popular precisely because he has no experience in these areas.

Governing is good preparation for a presidential candidate which is why so many presidents are ex governors.. . Some people claim that being a CEO is good preparation for that. I disagree. CEOs have a very different constituency, shareholders, who can up and leave when they don't like it, and their goal is to make them wealthier. Governors don't produce profits; they manage things that specifically DON'T produce profits like roads, schools, social welfare programs, environmental protection. Governors must also deal with legislatures and law making, and law enforcement.

A background in law and political science are also excellent preparation for the presidency. A president needs to understand the political system and how government works. Structure, function, and working of government has almost no similarity to that of a business.

A background in international affairs is certainly a huge asset to a president. Understanding different cultures, different types of government and how those governments work, their foreign policies and the issues that drive their heads of state allow a president to construct a workable foreign policy.

There is only one reason why Trump is being considered for the presidency. It's certainly not his manage style, his adorable personality, or his experience in government. It's because a large minority of the population see our government as a failure and just want to try something totally different; put a man in charge that is not part of government who knows nothing about it so just maybe he will be able to work some kind of magic to fix America's problem. This of course, makes about as much sense as making a concert pianist, Chairman of the Federal Reserve because the closest he has come to management of the economy is balancing his check book.

That's all horseshit. A politician is someone skill in several arts, all of which are disgraceful and disreputable. No honest man can make a living in politics in the long run.

A professional politician is a professionally dishonorable man. In order to get anywhere near high office he has to make so many compromises and submit to so many humiliations that he becomes indistinguishable from a streetwalker.​

These men, [politicians] in point of fact, are seldom if ever moved by anything rationally describable as public spirit; there is actually no more public spirit among them than among so many burglars or street-walkers. Their purpose, first, last and all the time, is to promote their private advantage, and to that end, and that end alone, they exercise all the vast powers that are in their hands … Whatever it is they seek, whether security, greater ease, more money or more power, it has to come out of the common stock, and so it diminishes the shares of all other men. Putting a new job-holder to work decreases the wages of every wage-earner in the land … Giving a job-holder more power takes something away from the liberty of all of us …

H. L. Mencken​

Ok, so you hate politicians but they are a fact of life in this country. You can elect someone that actual knows how to work within the bureaucracy or someone who doesn't have a clue. And Trump certain has no idea how he would accomplish anything he has promised. That's why he can't tell you how he would do anything. Even worse he reverses and contradicts himself over and over.

Immigration -. He has stated over and over they all (illegal immigrants) must go. He says, I will see that anyone in this country illegally leaves. Then he says, after the wall is build some will be allow to state. Later he says I will make no exceptions, they have to go. Then he says, for those that are exceptional, he'll work something out. He can't say how he would do any of this because he just doesn't know what he would do as president probably because he doesn't know what he can do.

Organized crime, drug dealers and prostitutes are also facts of life in this country. That doesn't mean we should admire them. The fact that Trump doesn't have the details nailed down exactly doesn't bother me. Have any of the other candidates enunciated a plan of any kind for dealing with the problem? No, they just give you their laundry list of what we can't do.

Consistency isn't a trait commonly found among politicians, so I don't see why you are demanding it from Trump.

Throwing every illegal in the country out, destroying Arab oil fields, putting tariffs on imports from our major trading partners are not details.

He presented a detailed plan of what he wants to do about immigration. The fact that you ignore it doesn't mean he hasn't done it.

What details has Jeb or Rubio given, especially on the issue of immigration? That's right: none. they've only said what "can't be done."

 

[Flopper]

Governing is good preparation for a presidential candidate which is why so many presidents are ex governors.. . Some people claim that being a CEO is good preparation for that. I disagree. CEOs have a very different constituency, shareholders, who can up and leave when they don't like it, and their goal is to make them wealthier. Governors don't produce profits; they manage things that specifically DON'T produce profits like roads, schools, social welfare programs, environmental protection. Governors must also deal with legislatures and law making, and law enforcement.

A background in law and political science are also excellent preparation for the presidency. A president needs to understand the political system and how government works. Structure, function, and working of government has almost no similarity to that of a business.

A background in international affairs is certainly a huge asset to a president. Understanding different cultures, different types of government and how those governments work, their foreign policies and the issues that drive their heads of state allow a president to construct a workable foreign policy.

There is only one reason why Trump is being considered for the presidency. It's certainly not his manage style, his adorable personality, or his experience in government. It's because a large minority of the population see our government as a failure and just want to try something totally different; put a man in charge that is not part of government who knows nothing about it so just maybe he will be able to work some kind of magic to fix America's problem. This of course, makes about as much sense as making a concert pianist, Chairman of the Federal Reserve because the closest he has come to management of the economy is balancing his check book.

That's all horseshit. A politician is someone skill in several arts, all of which are disgraceful and disreputable. No honest man can make a living in politics in the long run.

A professional politician is a professionally dishonorable man. In order to get anywhere near high office he has to make so many compromises and submit to so many humiliations that he becomes indistinguishable from a streetwalker.​

These men, [politicians] in point of fact, are seldom if ever moved by anything rationally describable as public spirit; there is actually no more public spirit among them than among so many burglars or street-walkers. Their purpose, first, last and all the time, is to promote their private advantage, and to that end, and that end alone, they exercise all the vast powers that are in their hands … Whatever it is they seek, whether security, greater ease, more money or more power, it has to come out of the common stock, and so it diminishes the shares of all other men. Putting a new job-holder to work decreases the wages of every wage-earner in the land … Giving a job-holder more power takes something away from the liberty of all of us …

H. L. Mencken​

Ok, so you hate politicians but they are a fact of life in this country. You can elect someone that actual knows how to work within the bureaucracy or someone who doesn't have a clue. And Trump certain has no idea how he would accomplish anything he has promised. That's why he can't tell you how he would do anything. Even worse he reverses and contradicts himself over and over.

Immigration -. He has stated over and over they all (illegal immigrants) must go. He says, I will see that anyone in this country illegally leaves. Then he says, after the wall is build some will be allow to state. Later he says I will make no exceptions, they have to go. Then he says, for those that are exceptional, he'll work something out. He can't say how he would do any of this because he just doesn't know what he would do as president probably because he doesn't know what he can do.

Organized crime, drug dealers and prostitutes are also facts of life in this country. That doesn't mean we should admire them. The fact that Trump doesn't have the details nailed down exactly doesn't bother me. Have any of the other candidates enunciated a plan of any kind for dealing with the problem? No, they just give you their laundry list of what we can't do.

Consistency isn't a trait commonly found among politicians, so I don't see why you are demanding it from Trump.

Throwing every illegal in the country out, destroying Arab oil fields, putting tariffs on imports from our major trading partners are not details.

He presented a detailed plan of what he wants to do about immigration. The fact that you ignore it doesn't mean he hasn't done it.

What details has Jeb or Rubio given, especially on the issue of immigration? That's right: none. they've only said what "can't be done."

I'm not saying he has no plan. He has lots of them and they change with every speech. For example, when addressing illegal immigration he says "they have to go", "they have to leave", "they all must go," Then when you look at where he stands on the issues on his web site, there is no mention of deporting anyone except convicted felons and those caught crossing the boarder. For those that overstay their visas which make up nearly half of the undocumented immigrants, he say only that there should a penalty. No deportation?

The only thing he has been consistent on in his immigration plans has been putting no responsibility on employers that hire illegals and building a wall. Almost every study on illegal immigration has established that jobs are the primarily reason these people come to the US. Homeland security has said time and again that building fences and wall is expensive and will not stop the flow illegal immigrants. At best it will slow them down.
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[bripat9643]

That's all horseshit. A politician is someone skill in several arts, all of which are disgraceful and disreputable. No honest man can make a living in politics in the long run.

A professional politician is a professionally dishonorable man. In order to get anywhere near high office he has to make so many compromises and submit to so many humiliations that he becomes indistinguishable from a streetwalker.​

These men, [politicians] in point of fact, are seldom if ever moved by anything rationally describable as public spirit; there is actually no more public spirit among them than among so many burglars or street-walkers. Their purpose, first, last and all the time, is to promote their private advantage, and to that end, and that end alone, they exercise all the vast powers that are in their hands … Whatever it is they seek, whether security, greater ease, more money or more power, it has to come out of the common stock, and so it diminishes the shares of all other men. Putting a new job-holder to work decreases the wages of every wage-earner in the land … Giving a job-holder more power takes something away from the liberty of all of us …

H. L. Mencken​

Ok, so you hate politicians but they are a fact of life in this country. You can elect someone that actual knows how to work within the bureaucracy or someone who doesn't have a clue. And Trump certain has no idea how he would accomplish anything he has promised. That's why he can't tell you how he would do anything. Even worse he reverses and contradicts himself over and over.

Immigration -. He has stated over and over they all (illegal immigrants) must go. He says, I will see that anyone in this country illegally leaves. Then he says, after the wall is build some will be allow to state. Later he says I will make no exceptions, they have to go. Then he says, for those that are exceptional, he'll work something out. He can't say how he would do any of this because he just doesn't know what he would do as president probably because he doesn't know what he can do.

Organized crime, drug dealers and prostitutes are also facts of life in this country. That doesn't mean we should admire them. The fact that Trump doesn't have the details nailed down exactly doesn't bother me. Have any of the other candidates enunciated a plan of any kind for dealing with the problem? No, they just give you their laundry list of what we can't do.

Consistency isn't a trait commonly found among politicians, so I don't see why you are demanding it from Trump.

Throwing every illegal in the country out, destroying Arab oil fields, putting tariffs on imports from our major trading partners are not details.

He presented a detailed plan of what he wants to do about immigration. The fact that you ignore it doesn't mean he hasn't done it.

What details has Jeb or Rubio given, especially on the issue of immigration? That's right: none. they've only said what "can't be done."

I'm not saying he has no plan. He has lots of them and they change with every speech. For example, when addressing illegal immigration he says "they have to go", "they have to leave", "they all must go," Then when you look at where he stands on the issues on his web site, there is no mention of deporting anyone except convicted felons and those caught crossing the boarder. For those that overstay their visas which make up nearly half of the undocumented immigrants, he say only that there should a penalty. No deportation?

The only thing he has been consistent on in his immigration plans has been putting no responsibility on employers that hire illegals and building a wall. Almost every study on illegal immigration has established that jobs are the primarily reason these people come to the US. Homeland security has said time and again that building fences and wall is expensive and will not stop the flow illegal immigrants. At best it will slow them down.
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The la already imposes a penalty on employers for hiring illegals. If it was actually enforced, it would be sufficient to discourage them from doing so.

You're nit picking every minute detail of what Trump has said about his plan but you have no comment on what the other candidates have said, which is virtually nothing. All we hear from the others is a long list of excuses for doing nothing.

It's obvious that you have a jones for Trump.

 

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Ok, so you hate politicians but they are a fact of life in this country. You can elect someone that actual knows how to work within the bureaucracy or someone who doesn't have a clue. And Trump certain has no idea how he would accomplish anything he has promised. That's why he can't tell you how he would do anything. Even worse he reverses and contradicts himself over and over.

Immigration -. He has stated over and over they all (illegal immigrants) must go. He says, I will see that anyone in this country illegally leaves. Then he says, after the wall is build some will be allow to state. Later he says I will make no exceptions, they have to go. Then he says, for those that are exceptional, he'll work something out. He can't say how he would do any of this because he just doesn't know what he would do as president probably because he doesn't know what he can do.

Organized crime, drug dealers and prostitutes are also facts of life in this country. That doesn't mean we should admire them. The fact that Trump doesn't have the details nailed down exactly doesn't bother me. Have any of the other candidates enunciated a plan of any kind for dealing with the problem? No, they just give you their laundry list of what we can't do.

Consistency isn't a trait commonly found among politicians, so I don't see why you are demanding it from Trump.

Throwing every illegal in the country out, destroying Arab oil fields, putting tariffs on imports from our major trading partners are not details.

He presented a detailed plan of what he wants to do about immigration. The fact that you ignore it doesn't mean he hasn't done it.

What details has Jeb or Rubio given, especially on the issue of immigration? That's right: none. they've only said what "can't be done."

I'm not saying he has no plan. He has lots of them and they change with every speech. For example, when addressing illegal immigration he says "they have to go", "they have to leave", "they all must go," Then when you look at where he stands on the issues on his web site, there is no mention of deporting anyone except convicted felons and those caught crossing the boarder. For those that overstay their visas which make up nearly half of the undocumented immigrants, he say only that there should a penalty. No deportation?

The only thing he has been consistent on in his immigration plans has been putting no responsibility on employers that hire illegals and building a wall. Almost every study on illegal immigration has established that jobs are the primarily reason these people come to the US. Homeland security has said time and again that building fences and wall is expensive and will not stop the flow illegal immigrants. At best it will slow them down.
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The la already imposes a penalty on employers for hiring illegals. If it was actually enforced, it would be sufficient to discourage them from doing so.

You're nit picking every minute detail of what Trump has said about his plan but you have no comment on what the other candidates have said, which is virtually nothing. All we hear from the others is a long list of excuses for doing nothing.

It's obvious that you have a jones for Trump.

Yes there are penalties for hiring illegal aliens. However, the people that wrote the law were careful to add a half dozens defenses that makes the law a joke. Violation is a civil offense just like over staying a visa. It carries a fine $250. Employers are not required to use any verification system, just make a good faith effort, whatever that is. If the employer contracts for labor, makes a good faith effort to verify status, he's home free.

Last year there was an interview on one of the TV networks of a retired immigration agent who conducted investigations and interviews of illegal immigrants. He said, If you want to stop illegal immigration, stop hiring them, giving them drivers license, credit cards, and bank accounts. Then you want need 50,000 people enforcing immigration laws, a hundred detention centers, and billions of dollars in boarder security. I don't totally agree with him, but I think he does have a point.

I actually like to listen to Trump. He's funny. However, I think he's scamming voters with promises that he can even come close to fulling.

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