usmbguest5318
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Whatever...I'm not going to engage in refuting counterfactual conspiratorily-based premises, and the conclusions drawn thereupon, about the media, so I'm done on this line of discussion with you.. There is a difference... The media is trying to constantly set him up, and they are as serpent's in their ways of doing this. Every one with a brain see's this, and then they see the responses to it. The media continues to lose in the situation, but they won't stop. The agenda's of those the media is trying to represent, is making fools of the media again and again.. You think it's honorable to try an embarrass the nation because the media has had an ax to grind ever since Obama left his post, and Hillary wasn't saved by their biased corruption ?when we are dealing with the world, ...we are to be our most ...honorable while doing so.
I agree with the above; however, the key problem is that Trump is pretty much never honorable. I'm not aware of one single day in the past two years when the man has refrained from fabricating facts, misrepresenting the truth, or just flat out lying. Accordingly, the man himself is without honor, without integrity. Merely not lying to or in the presence of a foreign representative is not going to make him honorable because that is a quality one must exhibit consistently and repeatedly; doing so incidentally just doesn't cut it.
I don't think the media can embarrass any nation. Just as you cannot embarrass me or any other individual, neither can the media embarrass anyone and anything other than itself. Our nation's elected and appointed leaders can embarrass the nation because they are the designated speakers for the nation; they represent the nation and are expected and construed as being manifestations of the best our nation has to offer.
The media report what is being said and done by government officials; the media does not perform those actions or utter the words. Embarrassment accrues from the officials' intents, words and deeds, not from the fact of their having said/done/intended "such and such" being reported.
To wit, if I say something untoward or stupid, etc., the embarrassment is mine because I said it, not because someone else reported that I said it. Are you of the mind that I should not be embarrassed because it may not be known to others that I said it? If that be so, then what degree of integrity and honesty to myself have I? Not much if any by my reckoning. I don't need to wear my chagrin on my sleeve, as it were, but it is nonetheless extant.