Should I not be comparing your current words with your previous words, Bern?
I repeat, show me said past words where I said all social programs should be abolished or that they're all bad, or that only the lazy use them.
that's a mighty engrossing dance there... so, you had control over your life... but took advantage of social TAX PAYED program anyway rather than resign yourself to the stoic positions that you usually take regarding social programs? Gosh, I don't even want to ask if you had cable TV during that period of time...
This may be your most convuluted argument yet. Best i can sum is that according to you control over your life = no need for social programs? Yeah, that makes sense.
So which ones get the axe then, Bern? The ones that you have enjoyed or the ones that a target demographic enjoys? Why am I reminded of the conversation we had just the other day regarding "regulations" and the aftermath of repealing them without further consideration?
In the broadest sense they need to be cut so much as structured in such a way that encourage better decision makeing and they don't allow people who are capable to remain on them indefinately. Social programs however wern't the point of the thread at all, so why you brought it up is beyond me. It was about the changeing atitude of our nation.
Be defensive, Bern. By all means. It seems that you get frustrated easily when you are not talking down to people on some king of the hill position of authority on an issue. Im not the one making you take a hardline position in the abstract that becomes retracted bit by bit upon further closer inspection. Feel free to sling mud if such is necessary though. It's probably my fault for referencing your previous statements.
I am defenseive because as much as i like to debate it is impossible to do so with someone who needs to insist one's position is something it isn't. We keep going round and round by me telling you what I believe then you respond back with an argument that is based on some other false belief you have attributed to me.