Toyota Details Six New electric cars Models Launching for 2020–2025

[imawhosure]

Yep, I am sure you do. Watch and see, lol. Until you bring the price down, it ain't happening, no matter how hard you try, or what you say.

Yeah, well they have been coming down so don't sweat it. Looking forward to the new Ford, I believe an electric F150 is being tested now.

Watch the video, I am sure you will get chills up and down your leg, lol. That video was from 2008, predicting 2015, lololol!

You and yours are soooooooooo accurate. You people are the best comedians on this site; you really are! Each and every day, it is a new skit from you, lol.

Why watch Colbert when we can watch you people make not only fools, but DAMN fools out of yourselves-)

The video has been chopped up and edited, it's pretty obvious.

IT IS A PROMO for the whole show on GMA. You can access it on youtube if you wish, lol. I just figured as soon as everyone seen the promo, they would laugh so hard, they would piss their pants-)

Hey! I am just trying to be as good a comidian as you peeps. You make us laugh, so I wanted to see if I could make everyone laugh too, without making everyone watch an hour of totally disproven propaganda. But hey, if you want to feed your inner Socialist, feel free to access the whole thing on youtube-)

I don't base my opinion of the realities of climate change on a sensationalist ABC promo from 2008, only anti-science morons would put any stock into that.

Hey Happy go Unlucky, don't blame me, those are YOUR PEEPS, lol. I am just telling you what they said, all those geniuses you base your opinions on.

Would you like me to post what Al Gore said was going to happen too-) Why he was the Vice President, so surely you would take his word for it, and he had to be correct, right!

And so, you have thrown YOUR geniuses under the bus from 2008, now will you throw YOUR VICE PRESIDENT.....Al Gore under the bus too!

Would you like me to post what the UN said? They have said your full of bull also, and they are the biggest climate alarmists!

So tell us, since you believe NONE of them since they have constantly been proven wrong, where you getting your religio……...errr, I mean, information from?

 

[Missouri_Mike]

Does it tow my gas powered boat or snowmobiles?
I highly doubt it.

Gas powered internal combustion isnt going anywhere for a while.

That's coming. The great thing about electric vehicles is there on demand torque, great for towing, must better than gas or diesel. The challenge now is distance and there are trucks coming out shortly that are supposed to have a 400 mile range. I think Ford is partnering with Rivian.

Now, this is pure BULLSH**, I know, I worked in the auto industry. There is no battery coming for the next 25 years at the very least, that can propel a vehicle for 400, 300, or even 200 mls, unless the whole vehicle is basically a battery pack, or the vehicle is hybrid.

Now, you MIGHT be able to get up the range somewhat, if you take out air, take out power steering, electric windows, stereo, heater, lights, and basically have an electric Yugo. Of course Socialists will claim this is a wonderful trade off, lol.

Let me also point out, that the ONLY reason electric cars sell is--------------->government REBATES! And how STUPID are you Leftists, when most of the buyers of these vehicles are the top 10%, since they are the only ones who can afford them, lol. You are for all intensive purposes, giving the rich a HUGE TAXBREAK, just so you can sell your crummy vehicles, hehehehehehehehehe.

Let me tell ALL of you fools a simple lesson--------->you want to sell electric vehicles? Make them cheaper and easier to own than a gas or diesel vehicle, and do it by LOWERING that cost below the others, NOT RAISING the others above the electric. Quit being bassackwards, and use our system to get what you so desire, and NOT try and manipulate the system, to force your will on everyone else!

We already have Teslas that go over 370 miles. We'll get there and people will pay more and people will elect politicians who will give more subsidies for electric vehicles because we won't have much choice and even to you it will be obvious.

Also, I trust Ford with a $500 million dollar investment on how/when and if to make an electric truck than I do you.

I’m a Ford guy but they are doing some goofy shit. Drove a new F-150 and the damn thing shuts off at stop lights. Step on the gas and it restarts. Fucking horrible. It also had a ten speed transmission. Shifted constantly.

If I see an electric F-150 I will no two things for certain. The driver didn’t really need a truck and they suck dicks.

 

[HappyJoy]

Yeah, well they have been coming down so don't sweat it. Looking forward to the new Ford, I believe an electric F150 is being tested now.

Watch the video, I am sure you will get chills up and down your leg, lol. That video was from 2008, predicting 2015, lololol!

You and yours are soooooooooo accurate. You people are the best comedians on this site; you really are! Each and every day, it is a new skit from you, lol.

Why watch Colbert when we can watch you people make not only fools, but DAMN fools out of yourselves-)

The video has been chopped up and edited, it's pretty obvious.

IT IS A PROMO for the whole show on GMA. You can access it on youtube if you wish, lol. I just figured as soon as everyone seen the promo, they would laugh so hard, they would piss their pants-)

Hey! I am just trying to be as good a comidian as you peeps. You make us laugh, so I wanted to see if I could make everyone laugh too, without making everyone watch an hour of totally disproven propaganda. But hey, if you want to feed your inner Socialist, feel free to access the whole thing on youtube-)

I don't base my opinion of the realities of climate change on a sensationalist ABC promo from 2008, only anti-science morons would put any stock into that.

Hey Happy go Unlucky, don't blame me, those are YOUR PEEPS, lol. I am just telling you what they said, all those geniuses you base your opinions on.

Would you like me to post what Al Gore said was going to happen too-) Why he was the Vice President, so surely you would take his word for it, and he had to be correct, right!

And so, you have thrown YOUR geniuses under the bus from 2008, now will you throw YOUR VICE PRESIDENT.....Al Gore under the bus too!

Would you like me to post what the UN said? They have said your full of bull also, and they are the biggest climate alarmists!

So tell us, since you believe NONE of them since they have constantly been misproven, where you getting your religio……...errr, I mean, information from?

Why can't you post the ABC video? How come just a promo? That's odd.

 

[imawhosure]

Watch the video, I am sure you will get chills up and down your leg, lol. That video was from 2008, predicting 2015, lololol!

You and yours are soooooooooo accurate. You people are the best comedians on this site; you really are! Each and every day, it is a new skit from you, lol.

Why watch Colbert when we can watch you people make not only fools, but DAMN fools out of yourselves-)

The video has been chopped up and edited, it's pretty obvious.

IT IS A PROMO for the whole show on GMA. You can access it on youtube if you wish, lol. I just figured as soon as everyone seen the promo, they would laugh so hard, they would piss their pants-)

Hey! I am just trying to be as good a comidian as you peeps. You make us laugh, so I wanted to see if I could make everyone laugh too, without making everyone watch an hour of totally disproven propaganda. But hey, if you want to feed your inner Socialist, feel free to access the whole thing on youtube-)

I don't base my opinion of the realities of climate change on a sensationalist ABC promo from 2008, only anti-science morons would put any stock into that.

Hey Happy go Unlucky, don't blame me, those are YOUR PEEPS, lol. I am just telling you what they said, all those geniuses you base your opinions on.

Would you like me to post what Al Gore said was going to happen too-) Why he was the Vice President, so surely you would take his word for it, and he had to be correct, right!

And so, you have thrown YOUR geniuses under the bus from 2008, now will you throw YOUR VICE PRESIDENT.....Al Gore under the bus too!

Would you like me to post what the UN said? They have said your full of bull also, and they are the biggest climate alarmists!

So tell us, since you believe NONE of them since they have constantly been misproven, where you getting your religio……...errr, I mean, information from?

Why can't you post the ABC video? How come just a promo? That's odd.

I am not gonna do your homework for you Happy. You are the one interested in it, and then told me, "why put so much on one study."

Do you know that the if we were to invoke the green new deal, it would best case scenario, lower the temperature by .25 degrees Celsius by 2100? Trillions to lower the temperature .25 degrees Celsius, are you CRAZY?!?!?!?!?!?!

Forgive me, that was a rhetorical question-)

 

[HappyJoy]

I’m a Ford guy but they are doing some goofy shit. Drove a new F-150 and the damn thing shuts off at stop lights. Step on the gas and it restarts. Fucking horrible. It also had a ten speed transmission. Shifted constantly.

I have a 2018 F 150. The auto start/stop feature is on many cars and it helps to save gas. However it's easy to turn off if you don't like it and the 10 speed transmission which Ford partnered with GM (I forget what vehicles they put it in) works fantastically. Smooth shifts, don't feel a thing. Also helps with fuel efficiency. It's actually one of the best transmissions you can find in a truck.

If I see an electric F-150 I will no two things for certain. The driver didn’t really need a truck and they suck dicks.

I'm sure you're always thinking about who sucks dicks and who doesn't. But I think this thread is about something else.

 

[HappyJoy]

The video has been chopped up and edited, it's pretty obvious.

IT IS A PROMO for the whole show on GMA. You can access it on youtube if you wish, lol. I just figured as soon as everyone seen the promo, they would laugh so hard, they would piss their pants-)

Hey! I am just trying to be as good a comidian as you peeps. You make us laugh, so I wanted to see if I could make everyone laugh too, without making everyone watch an hour of totally disproven propaganda. But hey, if you want to feed your inner Socialist, feel free to access the whole thing on youtube-)

I don't base my opinion of the realities of climate change on a sensationalist ABC promo from 2008, only anti-science morons would put any stock into that.

Hey Happy go Unlucky, don't blame me, those are YOUR PEEPS, lol. I am just telling you what they said, all those geniuses you base your opinions on.

Would you like me to post what Al Gore said was going to happen too-) Why he was the Vice President, so surely you would take his word for it, and he had to be correct, right!

And so, you have thrown YOUR geniuses under the bus from 2008, now will you throw YOUR VICE PRESIDENT.....Al Gore under the bus too!

Would you like me to post what the UN said? They have said your full of bull also, and they are the biggest climate alarmists!

So tell us, since you believe NONE of them since they have constantly been misproven, where you getting your religio……...errr, I mean, information from?

Why can't you post the ABC video? How come just a promo? That's odd.

I am not gonna do your homework for you Happy. You are the one interested in it, and then told me, "why put so much on one study."

Do you know that the if we were to invoke the green new deal, it would best case scenario, lower the temperature by .25 degrees Celsius by 2100? Trillions to lower the temperature .25 degrees Celsius, are you CRAZY?!?!?!?!?!?!

Forgive me, that was a rhetorical question-)

It's your claim, I'm certainly not going out of my way to source it for you. My bet is either it doesn't say what you think it does or you genuinely can't find it.

 

[HappyJoy]

Here is a link to the Rivian truck. Looks like Ford put $500 million and Amazon put $700 million into it. Anyway, I'm not crazy about the looks but that's the least important part and I would imagine younger generations might like it.

 

[petro]

Does it tow my gas powered boat or snowmobiles?
I highly doubt it.

Gas powered internal combustion isnt going anywhere for a while.

That's coming. The great thing about electric vehicles is there on demand torque, great for towing, must better than gas or diesel. The challenge now is distance and there are trucks coming out shortly that are supposed to have a 400 mile range. I think Ford is partnering with Rivian.

As of now with my Hemi Jeep I get a 560 mile range with trailer despite it's gas hogness. At this point I frequent areas not served well by gas stations and charging only exists in urban areas for some time to come.
Don't get me wrong, the vehicles in the OP are sharp unlike previous generations and I would consider one as a secondary vehicle for urban areas. We will have EV and gas for decades yet and many of us like our pig SUVs.

Electric cars just don't sound cool, no rumble. Loud pipes save lives.

 

[imawhosure]

Does it tow my gas powered boat or snowmobiles?
I highly doubt it.

Gas powered internal combustion isnt going anywhere for a while.

That's coming. The great thing about electric vehicles is there on demand torque, great for towing, must better than gas or diesel. The challenge now is distance and there are trucks coming out shortly that are supposed to have a 400 mile range. I think Ford is partnering with Rivian.

Now, this is pure BULLSH**, I know, I worked in the auto industry. There is no battery coming for the next 25 years at the very least, that can propel a vehicle for 400, 300, or even 200 mls, unless the whole vehicle is basically a battery pack, or the vehicle is hybrid.

Now, you MIGHT be able to get up the range somewhat, if you take out air, take out power steering, electric windows, stereo, heater, lights, and basically have an electric Yugo. Of course Socialists will claim this is a wonderful trade off, lol.

Let me also point out, that the ONLY reason electric cars sell is--------------->government REBATES! And how STUPID are you Leftists, when most of the buyers of these vehicles are the top 10%, since they are the only ones who can afford them, lol. You are for all intensive purposes, giving the rich a HUGE TAXBREAK, just so you can sell your crummy vehicles, hehehehehehehehehe.

Let me tell ALL of you fools a simple lesson--------->you want to sell electric vehicles? Make them cheaper and easier to own than a gas or diesel vehicle, and do it by LOWERING that cost below the others, NOT RAISING the others above the electric. Quit being bassackwards, and use our system to get what you so desire, and NOT try and manipulate the system, to force your will on everyone else!

We already have Teslas that go over 370 miles. We'll get there and people will pay more and people will elect politicians who will give more subsidies for electric vehicles because we won't have much choice and even to you it will be obvious.

Also, I trust Ford with a $500 million dollar investment on how/when and if to make an electric truck than I do you.

I’m a Ford guy but they are doing some goofy shit. Drove a new F-150 and the damn thing shuts off at stop lights. Step on the gas and it restarts. Fucking horrible. It also had a ten speed transmission. Shifted constantly.

If I see an electric F-150 I will no two things for certain. The driver didn’t really need a truck and they suck dicks.

See, you missed the whole point Missouri-----------> Ford, GM, and Chrysler HAVE to do these things.

Why?

Because, if a Leftist gets in the Presidency, CAFE standards are going up...…...waaaaaaaay up, and truck fleets WILL be included, or they will pay a massive fine. They are hedging their bets, plain and simple.

You notice, GM clobbered some of their EV line. They LOSE money on every vehicle they sold, but HAD to sell them to keep the fleet within CAFE standards.

It is NOT Ford, or GM, or Chrysler doing this, it is the LEFTISTS who keep pushing this crapola. Tell the automanufacturers that someone from the GOP will be elected for the next 12 years, and it will all go away; but we can't promise that.

The radical ENVIRO freaks have shrunk our vehicles, put ethanol in our fuel, FORCED diesel emmissions lower than Europe...…..which causes diesel fuel to be HIGHER than gas, which it should never be, and are trying everything in their power to cause fossil fuels to go waaaaaaaay up, so they can convince you to buy an electric vehicle...…..not because the technology has made their favorite type of vehicle CHEAPER, but because they have...….through regulation, made fossil fuel vehicles TO EXPENSIVE!

 

[imawhosure]

IT IS A PROMO for the whole show on GMA. You can access it on youtube if you wish, lol. I just figured as soon as everyone seen the promo, they would laugh so hard, they would piss their pants-)

Hey! I am just trying to be as good a comidian as you peeps. You make us laugh, so I wanted to see if I could make everyone laugh too, without making everyone watch an hour of totally disproven propaganda. But hey, if you want to feed your inner Socialist, feel free to access the whole thing on youtube-)

I don't base my opinion of the realities of climate change on a sensationalist ABC promo from 2008, only anti-science morons would put any stock into that.

Hey Happy go Unlucky, don't blame me, those are YOUR PEEPS, lol. I am just telling you what they said, all those geniuses you base your opinions on.

Would you like me to post what Al Gore said was going to happen too-) Why he was the Vice President, so surely you would take his word for it, and he had to be correct, right!

And so, you have thrown YOUR geniuses under the bus from 2008, now will you throw YOUR VICE PRESIDENT.....Al Gore under the bus too!

Would you like me to post what the UN said? They have said your full of bull also, and they are the biggest climate alarmists!

So tell us, since you believe NONE of them since they have constantly been misproven, where you getting your religio……...errr, I mean, information from?

Why can't you post the ABC video? How come just a promo? That's odd.

I am not gonna do your homework for you Happy. You are the one interested in it, and then told me, "why put so much on one study."

Do you know that the if we were to invoke the green new deal, it would best case scenario, lower the temperature by .25 degrees Celsius by 2100? Trillions to lower the temperature .25 degrees Celsius, are you CRAZY?!?!?!?!?!?!

Forgive me, that was a rhetorical question-)

It's your claim, I'm certainly not going out of my way to source it for you. My bet is either it doesn't say what you think it does or you genuinely can't find it.

Hey, my promo says it all. Either accept it, or disprove it-) Not up to me, it is your peeps-) But then again, they are wrong, always wrong, just like YOU!

 

[HappyJoy]

Does it tow my gas powered boat or snowmobiles?
I highly doubt it.

Gas powered internal combustion isnt going anywhere for a while.

That's coming. The great thing about electric vehicles is there on demand torque, great for towing, must better than gas or diesel. The challenge now is distance and there are trucks coming out shortly that are supposed to have a 400 mile range. I think Ford is partnering with Rivian.

As of now with my Hemi Jeep I get a 560 mile range with trailer despite it's gas hogness. At this point I frequent areas not served well by gas stations and charging only exists in urban areas for some time to come.
Don't get me wrong, the vehicles in the OP are sharp unlike previous generations and I would consider one as a secondary vehicle for urban areas. We will have EV and gas for decades yet and many of us like our pig SUVs.

Electric cars just don't sound cool, no rumble. Loud pipes save lives.

Well, charging stations are branching out and they will be everywhere. I think the biggest down side to electric vehicles is range. They appear to be approaching 400 miles, that's decent and while it may not meet everyone's needs it will meet most. For me, 400 miles on a truck is great, My truck is 4 wheel drive but only so in case my RZR craps out and I have to go get it. The RZR only has about 180 mile range so an electric 4x4 could very conceivably beat that.

 

[HappyJoy]

I don't base my opinion of the realities of climate change on a sensationalist ABC promo from 2008, only anti-science morons would put any stock into that.

Hey Happy go Unlucky, don't blame me, those are YOUR PEEPS, lol. I am just telling you what they said, all those geniuses you base your opinions on.

Would you like me to post what Al Gore said was going to happen too-) Why he was the Vice President, so surely you would take his word for it, and he had to be correct, right!

And so, you have thrown YOUR geniuses under the bus from 2008, now will you throw YOUR VICE PRESIDENT.....Al Gore under the bus too!

Would you like me to post what the UN said? They have said your full of bull also, and they are the biggest climate alarmists!

So tell us, since you believe NONE of them since they have constantly been misproven, where you getting your religio……...errr, I mean, information from?

Why can't you post the ABC video? How come just a promo? That's odd.

I am not gonna do your homework for you Happy. You are the one interested in it, and then told me, "why put so much on one study."

Do you know that the if we were to invoke the green new deal, it would best case scenario, lower the temperature by .25 degrees Celsius by 2100? Trillions to lower the temperature .25 degrees Celsius, are you CRAZY?!?!?!?!?!?!

Forgive me, that was a rhetorical question-)

It's your claim, I'm certainly not going out of my way to source it for you. My bet is either it doesn't say what you think it does or you genuinely can't find it.

Hey, my promo says it all. Either accept it, or disprove it-) Not up to me, it is your peeps-) But then again, they are wrong, always wrong, just like YOU!

What do you want me to disprove? It's a chopped up mess. I don't know if ABC did that when they put a promo together or if someone else did.

 

[imawhosure]

Hey Happy go Unlucky, don't blame me, those are YOUR PEEPS, lol. I am just telling you what they said, all those geniuses you base your opinions on.

Would you like me to post what Al Gore said was going to happen too-) Why he was the Vice President, so surely you would take his word for it, and he had to be correct, right!

And so, you have thrown YOUR geniuses under the bus from 2008, now will you throw YOUR VICE PRESIDENT.....Al Gore under the bus too!

Would you like me to post what the UN said? They have said your full of bull also, and they are the biggest climate alarmists!

So tell us, since you believe NONE of them since they have constantly been misproven, where you getting your religio……...errr, I mean, information from?

Why can't you post the ABC video? How come just a promo? That's odd.

I am not gonna do your homework for you Happy. You are the one interested in it, and then told me, "why put so much on one study."

Do you know that the if we were to invoke the green new deal, it would best case scenario, lower the temperature by .25 degrees Celsius by 2100? Trillions to lower the temperature .25 degrees Celsius, are you CRAZY?!?!?!?!?!?!

Forgive me, that was a rhetorical question-)

It's your claim, I'm certainly not going out of my way to source it for you. My bet is either it doesn't say what you think it does or you genuinely can't find it.

Hey, my promo says it all. Either accept it, or disprove it-) Not up to me, it is your peeps-) But then again, they are wrong, always wrong, just like YOU!

What do you want me to disprove? It's a chopped up mess. I don't know if ABC did that when they put a promo together or if someone else did.

It's there PROMO, lol, don't ask me. But, I am sure whomever started it would be SUED if it was not accurate. After all, they sure as hell aren't conservatives, they are a bunch of Leftists like you, lol.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

I’m a Ford guy but they are doing some goofy shit. Drove a new F-150 and the damn thing shuts off at stop lights. Step on the gas and it restarts. Fucking horrible. It also had a ten speed transmission. Shifted constantly.

I have a 2018 F 150. The auto start/stop feature is on many cars and it helps to save gas. However it's easy to turn off if you don't like it and the 10 speed transmission which Ford partnered with GM (I forget what vehicles they put it in) works fantastically. Smooth shifts, don't feel a thing. Also helps with fuel efficiency. It's actually one of the best transmissions you can find in a truck.

If I see an electric F-150 I will no two things for certain. The driver didn’t really need a truck and they suck dicks.

I'm sure you're always thinking about who sucks dicks and who doesn't. But I think this thread is about something else.

It’s crap and hard on your engine. As a bonus though the AC shuts off too so that’s nice. Yeah you can turn it off, every time you start it.

The ten speed is not smooth. It’s constantly hear hunting.

 

[imawhosure]

I’m a Ford guy but they are doing some goofy shit. Drove a new F-150 and the damn thing shuts off at stop lights. Step on the gas and it restarts. Fucking horrible. It also had a ten speed transmission. Shifted constantly.

I have a 2018 F 150. The auto start/stop feature is on many cars and it helps to save gas. However it's easy to turn off if you don't like it and the 10 speed transmission which Ford partnered with GM (I forget what vehicles they put it in) works fantastically. Smooth shifts, don't feel a thing. Also helps with fuel efficiency. It's actually one of the best transmissions you can find in a truck.

If I see an electric F-150 I will no two things for certain. The driver didn’t really need a truck and they suck dicks.

I'm sure you're always thinking about who sucks dicks and who doesn't. But I think this thread is about something else.

Does it tow my gas powered boat or snowmobiles?
I highly doubt it.

Gas powered internal combustion isnt going anywhere for a while.

That's coming. The great thing about electric vehicles is there on demand torque, great for towing, must better than gas or diesel. The challenge now is distance and there are trucks coming out shortly that are supposed to have a 400 mile range. I think Ford is partnering with Rivian.

As of now with my Hemi Jeep I get a 560 mile range with trailer despite it's gas hogness. At this point I frequent areas not served well by gas stations and charging only exists in urban areas for some time to come.
Don't get me wrong, the vehicles in the OP are sharp unlike previous generations and I would consider one as a secondary vehicle for urban areas. We will have EV and gas for decades yet and many of us like our pig SUVs.

Electric cars just don't sound cool, no rumble. Loud pipes save lives.

Hey Happy go Unlucky, don't blame me, those are YOUR PEEPS, lol. I am just telling you what they said, all those geniuses you base your opinions on.

Would you like me to post what Al Gore said was going to happen too-) Why he was the Vice President, so surely you would take his word for it, and he had to be correct, right!

And so, you have thrown YOUR geniuses under the bus from 2008, now will you throw YOUR VICE PRESIDENT.....Al Gore under the bus too!

Would you like me to post what the UN said? They have said your full of bull also, and they are the biggest climate alarmists!

So tell us, since you believe NONE of them since they have constantly been misproven, where you getting your religio……...errr, I mean, information from?

Why can't you post the ABC video? How come just a promo? That's odd.

I am not gonna do your homework for you Happy. You are the one interested in it, and then told me, "why put so much on one study."

Do you know that the if we were to invoke the green new deal, it would best case scenario, lower the temperature by .25 degrees Celsius by 2100? Trillions to lower the temperature .25 degrees Celsius, are you CRAZY?!?!?!?!?!?!

Forgive me, that was a rhetorical question-)

It's your claim, I'm certainly not going out of my way to source it for you. My bet is either it doesn't say what you think it does or you genuinely can't find it.

Hey, my promo says it all. Either accept it, or disprove it-) Not up to me, it is your peeps-) But then again, they are wrong, always wrong, just like YOU!

What do you want me to disprove? It's a chopped up mess. I don't know if ABC did that when they put a promo together or if someone else did.

Of course Happy, I could always go back to the old reliable, which is sure to get everyone spitting all over their keyboard laughing so hard, if they are drinking anything-)

 

[HappyJoy]

Why can't you post the ABC video? How come just a promo? That's odd.

I am not gonna do your homework for you Happy. You are the one interested in it, and then told me, "why put so much on one study."

Do you know that the if we were to invoke the green new deal, it would best case scenario, lower the temperature by .25 degrees Celsius by 2100? Trillions to lower the temperature .25 degrees Celsius, are you CRAZY?!?!?!?!?!?!

Forgive me, that was a rhetorical question-)

It's your claim, I'm certainly not going out of my way to source it for you. My bet is either it doesn't say what you think it does or you genuinely can't find it.

Hey, my promo says it all. Either accept it, or disprove it-) Not up to me, it is your peeps-) But then again, they are wrong, always wrong, just like YOU!

What do you want me to disprove? It's a chopped up mess. I don't know if ABC did that when they put a promo together or if someone else did.

It's there PROMO, lol, don't ask me. But, I am sure whomever started it would be SUED if it was not accurate. After all, they sure as hell aren't conservatives, they are a bunch of Leftists like you, lol.

If the promo were on ABCs site and say it didn't cut peoples' words off mid sentence then I might agree that it's what ABC ran as a promo. But there are so many jump cuts that it's hard to tell.

However if you want to make the claim that ABC put together a sensationalistic promo for ratings, OK, and? The next thing I would want to see is the actual thing they are promoting. I might have found it, it's about 5 minutes, from 2008 and doesn't make any claims you seem to imply it does so surely I must have found the wrong video. Maybe you can post the correct one?

 

[HappyJoy]

I’m a Ford guy but they are doing some goofy shit. Drove a new F-150 and the damn thing shuts off at stop lights. Step on the gas and it restarts. Fucking horrible. It also had a ten speed transmission. Shifted constantly.

I have a 2018 F 150. The auto start/stop feature is on many cars and it helps to save gas. However it's easy to turn off if you don't like it and the 10 speed transmission which Ford partnered with GM (I forget what vehicles they put it in) works fantastically. Smooth shifts, don't feel a thing. Also helps with fuel efficiency. It's actually one of the best transmissions you can find in a truck.

If I see an electric F-150 I will no two things for certain. The driver didn’t really need a truck and they suck dicks.

I'm sure you're always thinking about who sucks dicks and who doesn't. But I think this thread is about something else.

It’s crap and hard on your engine. As a bonus though the AC shuts off too so that’s nice. Yeah you can turn it off, every time you start it.

The ten speed is not smooth. It’s constantly hear hunting.

You mean hard on the starter? I's not you can read about it here:
NowCar | Does Auto Stop-Start Technology Harm Engines?

My A/C doesn't shut off, if I'm blasting it the engine won't shut off when I stop.

If it bothers you, then you can buy a cheap device to permanently turn the feature off and if you want to use it you just push the button.

It's really not an issue at all.

What's next? You want to get cranky about the aluminum body that the other makes are now coming around to?

 

[Missouri_Mike]

Does it tow my gas powered boat or snowmobiles?
I highly doubt it.

Gas powered internal combustion isnt going anywhere for a while.

That's coming. The great thing about electric vehicles is there on demand torque, great for towing, must better than gas or diesel. The challenge now is distance and there are trucks coming out shortly that are supposed to have a 400 mile range. I think Ford is partnering with Rivian.

As of now with my Hemi Jeep I get a 560 mile range with trailer despite it's gas hogness. At this point I frequent areas not served well by gas stations and charging only exists in urban areas for some time to come.
Don't get me wrong, the vehicles in the OP are sharp unlike previous generations and I would consider one as a secondary vehicle for urban areas. We will have EV and gas for decades yet and many of us like our pig SUVs.

Electric cars just don't sound cool, no rumble. Loud pipes save lives.

Well, charging stations are branching out and they will be everywhere. I think the biggest down side to electric vehicles is range. They appear to be approaching 400 miles, that's decent and while it may not meet everyone's needs it will meet most. For me, 400 miles on a truck is great, My truck is 4 wheel drive but only so in case my RZR craps out and I have to go get it. The RZR only has about 180 mile range so an electric 4x4 could very conceivably beat that.

You better put those stations at bars because you’re going to be there for a long time. Changing batteries will kill all future improvements to them so that isn’t an option.

 

[HenryBHough]

Gotta chuckle when I think of the mileage my gasoline powered Hyundai Sonata (2008) gets. 41 mpg regularly. And that with the V6 that was discontinued in favor of the 4-cylinder that friends say gets them a whopping 32 mpg. But they love that engine because it's smaller. Go figure. They surer'n Hell can't because the believe 32 mpg is more fuel efficient that 41. Of course it's what their indoctrination taught them.

 

[petro]

I was hoping for a new tech for powering vehicles that was promised to us in the '80's...


The future isn't now...