Top 10 Countries With Highest Household Debt All Socialist

[francoHFW]

So, if we go for Socialist being a country with some Socialism, then the US is a Socialist country.

Try - education. Mass education is socialist.

Public libraries.

Police force

Armed forces

Infrastructure

Public parks

Social security

You know, Socialist things in the US.

Not quite you need Health Care at least I think. "we are all socialists now!"--Finland prime minister when ACA passed.

Why do you need healthcare? Because it's convenient for an argument?

Rubbish.

The problem here is that people will move the borders of things in order to make an argument stick.

What's a socialist country? Probably one that has full scale socialism, which I'd say is the means of production.

Healthcare, armed forces, police, infrastructure, all socialized, doesn't make a socialized country.

You also need democracy and smart stuff LOL like taxing the rich and investing in citizens and infrastructure. Then The community needs to regulate business and industry like every like modern country does. Living wage good vacations daycare parental leave ID card 2 end illegal immigration cheap College and training Etc. But the Finland prime minister says the US plus ACA equals socialist, even if it is a giveaway to the rich GOP mess..

No, you don't.

Debbie WTF is your definition in your own words. Your link it can mean anything.

Check this in Wikipedia the history of socialism. it says socialism in the first half of the twentieth century was mainly referring to the USSR, but afterafter World War 2 that became communism and socialism is usually democratic and the first thing it needs pal is Universal Healthcare.
Or just keep going around in circles with the brainwashed u.s. populace.
.

Sorry you think my masters in history and obsession with the subject in foreign countries means nothing. Read the Wikipedia article anyway LOL.

 

[francoHFW]

Not quite you need Health Care at least I think. "we are all socialists now!"--Finland prime minister when ACA passed.

Why do you need healthcare? Because it's convenient for an argument?

Rubbish.

The problem here is that people will move the borders of things in order to make an argument stick.

What's a socialist country? Probably one that has full scale socialism, which I'd say is the means of production.

Healthcare, armed forces, police, infrastructure, all socialized, doesn't make a socialized country.

You also need democracy and smart stuff LOL like taxing the rich and investing in citizens and infrastructure. Then The community needs to regulate business and industry like every like modern country does. Living wage good vacations daycare parental leave ID card 2 end illegal immigration cheap College and training Etc. But the Finland prime minister says the US plus ACA equals socialist, even if it is a giveaway to the rich GOP mess..

No, you don't.

Debbie WTF is your definition in your own words. Your link it can mean anything.

Check this in Wikipedia the history of socialism. it says socialism in the first half of the twentieth century was mainly referring to the USSR, but afterafter World War 2 that became communism and socialism is usually democratic and the first thing it needs pal is Universal Healthcare.
Or just keep going around in circles with the brainwashed u.s. populace.
.

Sorry you think my masters in history and obsession with the subject in foreign countries means nothing. Read the Wikipedia article anyway LOL.

In the United States you have to say democratic socialism so the citizens don't explode....

 

[frigidweirdo]

So, if we go for Socialist being a country with some Socialism, then the US is a Socialist country.

Try - education. Mass education is socialist.

Public libraries.

Police force

Armed forces

Infrastructure

Public parks

Social security

You know, Socialist things in the US.

Not quite you need Health Care at least I think. "we are all socialists now!"--Finland prime minister when ACA passed.

Why do you need healthcare? Because it's convenient for an argument?

Rubbish.

The problem here is that people will move the borders of things in order to make an argument stick.

What's a socialist country? Probably one that has full scale socialism, which I'd say is the means of production.

Healthcare, armed forces, police, infrastructure, all socialized, doesn't make a socialized country.

As I said, socialism is an economic term, the definition from the dictionary is a state where means of production are owned or regulated by the community. But today there is pure socialism which is communism and doesn't work, and socialism is just fair well regulated capitalism with a good safety net. We need Universal Health Care to qualify as socialists. The prime minister of Finland and I know best I guess. I have had many discussions in foreign countries about it and I know my 20th century history. I have a masters in history and and speak fluent French civilization.

No, Socialism is where the means of production are in the hands of the government.

Communism is when there is no government and the means of production are in the hands of the people.

Very different.

No, you don't need universal healthcare to be socialist and couldn't give a rats ass about you CV making you think you're somehow superior to other people and therefore you must be right.

Listen Bernie Sanders doesn't want government ownership of industry and business. I'm sick of socialism having no meaning in the United States. it's so confused. f*** the United States, the Bastion of Cold War idiocy and propaganda. Communism is pure socialism and doesn't work.

Okay, so Bernie Sanders isn't a Communist. Has he ever claimed to be one? If not, then why are you coming out with stuff that has nothing to do with what we're talking about.

You're sick of Socialism having no meaning, and I'm sick of what you're saying having no meaning. So, we're both a little sick right now.

Again, Communism is different to Socialism.

Christ, you supposedly have a masters in History. I'm calling you out on this, first because your grammar sucks, who gets a masters with shitty grammar? Second because you're not even able to come to a half sensible conclusion about the difference between Communism and Socialism. It's not hard.


Communism comes from the word "commune"

commune | Definition of commune in US English by Oxford Dictionaries

"A group of people living together and sharing possessions and responsibilities."

"
Origin
Middle English: from Old French comuner ‘to share’, from comun (see common).
"

From the word "to share" in French and Latin where is means "common/joint/public"

Marxism - Wikipedia

"Marx hypothesized that socialism would ultimately transform into a communist society; a classless, stateless, humane society based on common ownership and the underlying principle: "From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs"."

Classless, stateless society.

Communism is a society where the common people rule, not a ruling class, not politicians. You can't have a state because a state requires a ruler, a leader, or a group of leaders. Communism doesn't have this. Socialism can exist within a state.

Socialism is about social ownership. How that social ownership exists can be done in many different ways. But in practice it has happened within states. Say, China, the USSR, Cuba among other places.

 

[frigidweirdo]

So, if we go for Socialist being a country with some Socialism, then the US is a Socialist country.

Try - education. Mass education is socialist.

Public libraries.

Police force

Armed forces

Infrastructure

Public parks

Social security

You know, Socialist things in the US.

Not quite you need Health Care at least I think. "we are all socialists now!"--Finland prime minister when ACA passed.

Why do you need healthcare? Because it's convenient for an argument?

Rubbish.

The problem here is that people will move the borders of things in order to make an argument stick.

What's a socialist country? Probably one that has full scale socialism, which I'd say is the means of production.

Healthcare, armed forces, police, infrastructure, all socialized, doesn't make a socialized country.

You also need democracy and smart stuff LOL like taxing the rich and investing in citizens and infrastructure. Then The community needs to regulate business and industry like every like modern country does. Living wage good vacations daycare parental leave ID card 2 end illegal immigration cheap College and training Etc. But the Finland prime minister says the US plus ACA equals socialist, even if it is a giveaway to the rich GOP mess..

No, you don't.

Debbie WTF is your definition in your own words. Your link it can mean anything.

Check this in Wikipedia the history of socialism. it says socialism in the first half of the twentieth century was mainly referring to the USSR, but afterafter World War 2 that became communism and socialism is usually democratic and the first thing it needs pal is Universal Healthcare.
Or just keep going around in circles with the brainwashed u.s. populace.
.

And who is Debbie exactly?

 

[francoHFW]

Not quite you need Health Care at least I think. "we are all socialists now!"--Finland prime minister when ACA passed.

Why do you need healthcare? Because it's convenient for an argument?

Rubbish.

The problem here is that people will move the borders of things in order to make an argument stick.

What's a socialist country? Probably one that has full scale socialism, which I'd say is the means of production.

Healthcare, armed forces, police, infrastructure, all socialized, doesn't make a socialized country.

As I said, socialism is an economic term, the definition from the dictionary is a state where means of production are owned or regulated by the community. But today there is pure socialism which is communism and doesn't work, and socialism is just fair well regulated capitalism with a good safety net. We need Universal Health Care to qualify as socialists. The prime minister of Finland and I know best I guess. I have had many discussions in foreign countries about it and I know my 20th century history. I have a masters in history and and speak fluent French civilization.

No, Socialism is where the means of production are in the hands of the government.

Communism is when there is no government and the means of production are in the hands of the people.

Very different.

No, you don't need universal healthcare to be socialist and couldn't give a rats ass about you CV making you think you're somehow superior to other people and therefore you must be right.

Listen Bernie Sanders doesn't want government ownership of industry and business. I'm sick of socialism having no meaning in the United States. it's so confused. f*** the United States, the Bastion of Cold War idiocy and propaganda. Communism is pure socialism and doesn't work.

Okay, so Bernie Sanders isn't a Communist. Has he ever claimed to be one? If not, then why are you coming out with stuff that has nothing to do with what we're talking about.

You're sick of Socialism having no meaning, and I'm sick of what you're saying having no meaning. So, we're both a little sick right now.

Again, Communism is different to Socialism.

Christ, you supposedly have a masters in History. I'm calling you out on this, first because your grammar sucks, who gets a masters with shitty grammar? Second because you're not even able to come to a half sensible conclusion about the difference between Communism and Socialism. It's not hard.


Communism comes from the word "commune"

commune | Definition of commune in US English by Oxford Dictionaries

"A group of people living together and sharing possessions and responsibilities."

"
Origin
Middle English: from Old French comuner ‘to share’, from comun (see common).
"

From the word "to share" in French and Latin where is means "common/joint/public"

Marxism - Wikipedia

"Marx hypothesized that socialism would ultimately transform into a communist society; a classless, stateless, humane society based on common ownership and the underlying principle: "From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs"."

Classless, stateless society.

Communism is a society where the common people rule, not a ruling class, not politicians. You can't have a state because a state requires a ruler, a leader, or a group of leaders. Communism doesn't have this. Socialism can exist within a state.

Socialism is about social ownership. How that social ownership exists can be done in many different ways. But in practice it has happened within states. Say, China, the USSR, Cuba among other places.

That is pure socialism which is communism which does not work always is a dictatorship and always has been put in by violent by violent. The wiki article says what what I've been saying in the United States it stillit still means to the GOP and other dupes. In general, the first half of the 20th century socialism referred to the USSR communism since then more and more it refers to democratic parties. Can you perchance say in your all words what socialism is now? I didn't think so. All you can say is what it isn't, super duper.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Why do you need healthcare? Because it's convenient for an argument?

Rubbish.

The problem here is that people will move the borders of things in order to make an argument stick.

What's a socialist country? Probably one that has full scale socialism, which I'd say is the means of production.

Healthcare, armed forces, police, infrastructure, all socialized, doesn't make a socialized country.

As I said, socialism is an economic term, the definition from the dictionary is a state where means of production are owned or regulated by the community. But today there is pure socialism which is communism and doesn't work, and socialism is just fair well regulated capitalism with a good safety net. We need Universal Health Care to qualify as socialists. The prime minister of Finland and I know best I guess. I have had many discussions in foreign countries about it and I know my 20th century history. I have a masters in history and and speak fluent French civilization.

No, Socialism is where the means of production are in the hands of the government.

Communism is when there is no government and the means of production are in the hands of the people.

Very different.

No, you don't need universal healthcare to be socialist and couldn't give a rats ass about you CV making you think you're somehow superior to other people and therefore you must be right.

Listen Bernie Sanders doesn't want government ownership of industry and business. I'm sick of socialism having no meaning in the United States. it's so confused. f*** the United States, the Bastion of Cold War idiocy and propaganda. Communism is pure socialism and doesn't work.

Okay, so Bernie Sanders isn't a Communist. Has he ever claimed to be one? If not, then why are you coming out with stuff that has nothing to do with what we're talking about.

You're sick of Socialism having no meaning, and I'm sick of what you're saying having no meaning. So, we're both a little sick right now.

Again, Communism is different to Socialism.

Christ, you supposedly have a masters in History. I'm calling you out on this, first because your grammar sucks, who gets a masters with shitty grammar? Second because you're not even able to come to a half sensible conclusion about the difference between Communism and Socialism. It's not hard.


Communism comes from the word "commune"

commune | Definition of commune in US English by Oxford Dictionaries

"A group of people living together and sharing possessions and responsibilities."

"
Origin
Middle English: from Old French comuner ‘to share’, from comun (see common).
"

From the word "to share" in French and Latin where is means "common/joint/public"

Marxism - Wikipedia

"Marx hypothesized that socialism would ultimately transform into a communist society; a classless, stateless, humane society based on common ownership and the underlying principle: "From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs"."

Classless, stateless society.

Communism is a society where the common people rule, not a ruling class, not politicians. You can't have a state because a state requires a ruler, a leader, or a group of leaders. Communism doesn't have this. Socialism can exist within a state.

Socialism is about social ownership. How that social ownership exists can be done in many different ways. But in practice it has happened within states. Say, China, the USSR, Cuba among other places.

That is pure socialism which is communism which does not work always is a dictatorship and always has been put in by violent by violent. The wiki article says what what I've been saying in the United States it stillit still means to the GOP and other dupes. In general, the first half of the 20th century socialism referred to the USSR communism since then more and more it refers to democratic parties. Can you perchance say in your all words what socialism is now? I didn't think so. All you can say is what it isn't, super duper.

Are you actually reading what I write at all? Doesn't seem so.

Socialism is Socialism. Communism is Communism.

Pure Socialism can happen within a state structure and with a hierarchy. Communism can't. Are you getting this?

Socialism didn't refer to the USSR at any point. The USSR was not Communist but was Socialist. But you can't say "Socialism referred to the USSR", that makes no sense.

 

[francoHFW]

As I said, socialism is an economic term, the definition from the dictionary is a state where means of production are owned or regulated by the community. But today there is pure socialism which is communism and doesn't work, and socialism is just fair well regulated capitalism with a good safety net. We need Universal Health Care to qualify as socialists. The prime minister of Finland and I know best I guess. I have had many discussions in foreign countries about it and I know my 20th century history. I have a masters in history and and speak fluent French civilization.

No, Socialism is where the means of production are in the hands of the government.

Communism is when there is no government and the means of production are in the hands of the people.

Very different.

No, you don't need universal healthcare to be socialist and couldn't give a rats ass about you CV making you think you're somehow superior to other people and therefore you must be right.

Listen Bernie Sanders doesn't want government ownership of industry and business. I'm sick of socialism having no meaning in the United States. it's so confused. f*** the United States, the Bastion of Cold War idiocy and propaganda. Communism is pure socialism and doesn't work.

Okay, so Bernie Sanders isn't a Communist. Has he ever claimed to be one? If not, then why are you coming out with stuff that has nothing to do with what we're talking about.

You're sick of Socialism having no meaning, and I'm sick of what you're saying having no meaning. So, we're both a little sick right now.

Again, Communism is different to Socialism.

Christ, you supposedly have a masters in History. I'm calling you out on this, first because your grammar sucks, who gets a masters with shitty grammar? Second because you're not even able to come to a half sensible conclusion about the difference between Communism and Socialism. It's not hard.


Communism comes from the word "commune"

commune | Definition of commune in US English by Oxford Dictionaries

"A group of people living together and sharing possessions and responsibilities."

"
Origin
Middle English: from Old French comuner ‘to share’, from comun (see common).
"

From the word "to share" in French and Latin where is means "common/joint/public"

Marxism - Wikipedia

"Marx hypothesized that socialism would ultimately transform into a communist society; a classless, stateless, humane society based on common ownership and the underlying principle: "From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs"."

Classless, stateless society.

Communism is a society where the common people rule, not a ruling class, not politicians. You can't have a state because a state requires a ruler, a leader, or a group of leaders. Communism doesn't have this. Socialism can exist within a state.

Socialism is about social ownership. How that social ownership exists can be done in many different ways. But in practice it has happened within states. Say, China, the USSR, Cuba among other places.

That is pure socialism which is communism which does not work always is a dictatorship and always has been put in by violent by violent. The wiki article says what what I've been saying in the United States it stillit still means to the GOP and other dupes. In general, the first half of the 20th century socialism referred to the USSR communism since then more and more it refers to democratic parties. Can you perchance say in your all words what socialism is now? I didn't think so. All you can say is what it isn't, super duper.

Are you actually reading what I write at all? Doesn't seem so.

Socialism is Socialism. Communism is Communism.

Pure Socialism can happen within a state structure and with a hierarchy. Communism can't. Are you getting this?

Socialism didn't refer to the USSR at any point. The USSR was not Communist but was Socialist. But you can't say "Socialism referred to the USSR", that makes no sense.

I said it and Wikipedia said it. you are terminally confused.

 

[francoHFW]

Not quite you need Health Care at least I think. "we are all socialists now!"--Finland prime minister when ACA passed.

Why do you need healthcare? Because it's convenient for an argument?

Rubbish.

The problem here is that people will move the borders of things in order to make an argument stick.

What's a socialist country? Probably one that has full scale socialism, which I'd say is the means of production.

Healthcare, armed forces, police, infrastructure, all socialized, doesn't make a socialized country.

You also need democracy and smart stuff LOL like taxing the rich and investing in citizens and infrastructure. Then The community needs to regulate business and industry like every like modern country does. Living wage good vacations daycare parental leave ID card 2 end illegal immigration cheap College and training Etc. But the Finland prime minister says the US plus ACA equals socialist, even if it is a giveaway to the rich GOP mess..

No, you don't.

Debbie WTF is your definition in your own words. Your link it can mean anything.

Check this in Wikipedia the history of socialism. it says socialism in the first half of the twentieth century was mainly referring to the USSR, but afterafter World War 2 that became communism and socialism is usually democratic and the first thing it needs pal is Universal Healthcare.
Or just keep going around in circles with the brainwashed u.s. populace.
.

And who is Debbie exactly?

I tried to go back and change that but it's too late that is my smartphone talking or listening....

 

[francoHFW]

Why do you need healthcare? Because it's convenient for an argument?

Rubbish.

The problem here is that people will move the borders of things in order to make an argument stick.

What's a socialist country? Probably one that has full scale socialism, which I'd say is the means of production.

Healthcare, armed forces, police, infrastructure, all socialized, doesn't make a socialized country.

You also need democracy and smart stuff LOL like taxing the rich and investing in citizens and infrastructure. Then The community needs to regulate business and industry like every like modern country does. Living wage good vacations daycare parental leave ID card 2 end illegal immigration cheap College and training Etc. But the Finland prime minister says the US plus ACA equals socialist, even if it is a giveaway to the rich GOP mess..

No, you don't.

Debbie WTF is your definition in your own words. Your link it can mean anything.

Check this in Wikipedia the history of socialism. it says socialism in the first half of the twentieth century was mainly referring to the USSR, but afterafter World War 2 that became communism and socialism is usually democratic and the first thing it needs pal is Universal Healthcare.
Or just keep going around in circles with the brainwashed u.s. populace.
.

And who is Debbie exactly?

I tried to go back and change that but it's too late that is my smartphone talking or listening....

History of socialism - Wikipedia

 

[Mac1958]

To say like in this thread title that ALL the below nations in that Top 10 are Socialist is very ignorant: Denmark, Netherlands, Norway, Australia, Switzerland.

We're not really worried about facts or accuracy in this country any more. To the Right, "socialist" means "anything to the Left of me".

They've wrecked the word, made it mean nothing, or anything, just as the Left has done with "racist".

It's not like we're trying to actually improve anything. That would be too much work.

That's how we roll. America, 2018.
.

 

[frigidweirdo]

No, Socialism is where the means of production are in the hands of the government.

Communism is when there is no government and the means of production are in the hands of the people.

Very different.

No, you don't need universal healthcare to be socialist and couldn't give a rats ass about you CV making you think you're somehow superior to other people and therefore you must be right.

Listen Bernie Sanders doesn't want government ownership of industry and business. I'm sick of socialism having no meaning in the United States. it's so confused. f*** the United States, the Bastion of Cold War idiocy and propaganda. Communism is pure socialism and doesn't work.

Okay, so Bernie Sanders isn't a Communist. Has he ever claimed to be one? If not, then why are you coming out with stuff that has nothing to do with what we're talking about.

You're sick of Socialism having no meaning, and I'm sick of what you're saying having no meaning. So, we're both a little sick right now.

Again, Communism is different to Socialism.

Christ, you supposedly have a masters in History. I'm calling you out on this, first because your grammar sucks, who gets a masters with shitty grammar? Second because you're not even able to come to a half sensible conclusion about the difference between Communism and Socialism. It's not hard.


Communism comes from the word "commune"

commune | Definition of commune in US English by Oxford Dictionaries

"A group of people living together and sharing possessions and responsibilities."

"
Origin
Middle English: from Old French comuner ‘to share’, from comun (see common).
"

From the word "to share" in French and Latin where is means "common/joint/public"

Marxism - Wikipedia

"Marx hypothesized that socialism would ultimately transform into a communist society; a classless, stateless, humane society based on common ownership and the underlying principle: "From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs"."

Classless, stateless society.

Communism is a society where the common people rule, not a ruling class, not politicians. You can't have a state because a state requires a ruler, a leader, or a group of leaders. Communism doesn't have this. Socialism can exist within a state.

Socialism is about social ownership. How that social ownership exists can be done in many different ways. But in practice it has happened within states. Say, China, the USSR, Cuba among other places.

That is pure socialism which is communism which does not work always is a dictatorship and always has been put in by violent by violent. The wiki article says what what I've been saying in the United States it stillit still means to the GOP and other dupes. In general, the first half of the 20th century socialism referred to the USSR communism since then more and more it refers to democratic parties. Can you perchance say in your all words what socialism is now? I didn't think so. All you can say is what it isn't, super duper.

Are you actually reading what I write at all? Doesn't seem so.

Socialism is Socialism. Communism is Communism.

Pure Socialism can happen within a state structure and with a hierarchy. Communism can't. Are you getting this?

Socialism didn't refer to the USSR at any point. The USSR was not Communist but was Socialist. But you can't say "Socialism referred to the USSR", that makes no sense.

I said it and Wikipedia said it. you are terminally confused.

You said, I doubt Wikipedia said it. Certainly you haven't quoted it.

Basically you're doing some stupid nonsense whereby you think because you've said something, it must be true. You don't even discuss what I've written.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Why do you need healthcare? Because it's convenient for an argument?

Rubbish.

The problem here is that people will move the borders of things in order to make an argument stick.

What's a socialist country? Probably one that has full scale socialism, which I'd say is the means of production.

Healthcare, armed forces, police, infrastructure, all socialized, doesn't make a socialized country.

You also need democracy and smart stuff LOL like taxing the rich and investing in citizens and infrastructure. Then The community needs to regulate business and industry like every like modern country does. Living wage good vacations daycare parental leave ID card 2 end illegal immigration cheap College and training Etc. But the Finland prime minister says the US plus ACA equals socialist, even if it is a giveaway to the rich GOP mess..

No, you don't.

Debbie WTF is your definition in your own words. Your link it can mean anything.

Check this in Wikipedia the history of socialism. it says socialism in the first half of the twentieth century was mainly referring to the USSR, but afterafter World War 2 that became communism and socialism is usually democratic and the first thing it needs pal is Universal Healthcare.
Or just keep going around in circles with the brainwashed u.s. populace.
.

And who is Debbie exactly?

I tried to go back and change that but it's too late that is my smartphone talking or listening....

So, this think I, or Debbie, am supposed to check is what? Let's just say I'm not trawling through loads of wikipedia articles looking for a point you want to make.

 

[frigidweirdo]

You also need democracy and smart stuff LOL like taxing the rich and investing in citizens and infrastructure. Then The community needs to regulate business and industry like every like modern country does. Living wage good vacations daycare parental leave ID card 2 end illegal immigration cheap College and training Etc. But the Finland prime minister says the US plus ACA equals socialist, even if it is a giveaway to the rich GOP mess..

No, you don't.

Debbie WTF is your definition in your own words. Your link it can mean anything.

Check this in Wikipedia the history of socialism. it says socialism in the first half of the twentieth century was mainly referring to the USSR, but afterafter World War 2 that became communism and socialism is usually democratic and the first thing it needs pal is Universal Healthcare.
Or just keep going around in circles with the brainwashed u.s. populace.
.

And who is Debbie exactly?

I tried to go back and change that but it's too late that is my smartphone talking or listening....

History of socialism - Wikipedia

And... which bit? Fucking hell.

 

[defcon4]

That's what Eurotrash don't understand about Americans. We're the spirit that drives the world economy. We're the innovation that powers progress.

Eurotrash ride on our coat tails.

I hate to brake the news for you but driving the world economy, although it may be contributed to the U.S., actually it is controlled by the banks. Banks are an International Cabal and they decide how much fiat money should be printed; the American public is under that yoke just as the European public is under that yoke. Your nationalism is admirable but you are focusing on superficial tings. Not everything is what it seems to be.

 

[DOTR]

Our American friends do need to get educated about European Politics and what EXACTLY constitutes a Socialist nation with a Socialist Government because without this our American friends seem very ignorant of the situation. To say like in this thread title that ALL the below nations in that Top 10 are Socialist is very ignorant:

Denmark, Netherlands, Norway, Australia, Switzerland.

It is our common enemy which has done this Lucy. The media here love to point to these countries and make a game of ranking them better than the US and then holding them up as socialist utopias.
But whatever they are..we dont want to be Denmark or Norway. Maybe we should work on defintions? It is ok they are a little slippery. Social sciences are not hard sciences like physics. Things overlap.

The real damage comes without a market economy.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Not quite you need Health Care at least I think. "we are all socialists now!"--Finland prime minister when ACA passed.

Why do you need healthcare? Because it's convenient for an argument?

Rubbish.

The problem here is that people will move the borders of things in order to make an argument stick.

What's a socialist country? Probably one that has full scale socialism, which I'd say is the means of production.

Healthcare, armed forces, police, infrastructure, all socialized, doesn't make a socialized country.

You also need democracy and smart stuff LOL like taxing the rich and investing in citizens and infrastructure. Then The community needs to regulate business and industry like every like modern country does. Living wage good vacations daycare parental leave ID card 2 end illegal immigration cheap College and training Etc. But the Finland prime minister says the US plus ACA equals socialist, even if it is a giveaway to the rich GOP mess..

No, you don't.

Debbie WTF is your definition in your own words. Your link it can mean anything.

Check this in Wikipedia the history of socialism. it says socialism in the first half of the twentieth century was mainly referring to the USSR, but afterafter World War 2 that became communism and socialism is usually democratic and the first thing it needs pal is Universal Healthcare.
Or just keep going around in circles with the brainwashed u.s. populace.
.

Sorry you think my masters in history and obsession with the subject in foreign countries means nothing. Read the Wikipedia article anyway LOL.

I still want to know where you got your masters at, in a cracker jack box?

 

[francoHFW]

You also need democracy and smart stuff LOL like taxing the rich and investing in citizens and infrastructure. Then The community needs to regulate business and industry like every like modern country does. Living wage good vacations daycare parental leave ID card 2 end illegal immigration cheap College and training Etc. But the Finland prime minister says the US plus ACA equals socialist, even if it is a giveaway to the rich GOP mess..

No, you don't.

Debbie WTF is your definition in your own words. Your link it can mean anything.

Check this in Wikipedia the history of socialism. it says socialism in the first half of the twentieth century was mainly referring to the USSR, but afterafter World War 2 that became communism and socialism is usually democratic and the first thing it needs pal is Universal Healthcare.
Or just keep going around in circles with the brainwashed u.s. populace.
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And who is Debbie exactly?

I tried to go back and change that but it's too late that is my smartphone talking or listening....

So, this think I, or Debbie, am supposed to check is what? Let's just say I'm not trawling through loads of wikipedia articles looking for a point you want to make.

The history of socialism Wikipedia... Socialism referred to the USSR before 1950, and more and more to democratic since then. Now that is what it means. Everywhere but the cold war dinosaur dupe world in the United States....

 

[francoHFW]

Why do you need healthcare? Because it's convenient for an argument?

Rubbish.

The problem here is that people will move the borders of things in order to make an argument stick.

What's a socialist country? Probably one that has full scale socialism, which I'd say is the means of production.

Healthcare, armed forces, police, infrastructure, all socialized, doesn't make a socialized country.

You also need democracy and smart stuff LOL like taxing the rich and investing in citizens and infrastructure. Then The community needs to regulate business and industry like every like modern country does. Living wage good vacations daycare parental leave ID card 2 end illegal immigration cheap College and training Etc. But the Finland prime minister says the US plus ACA equals socialist, even if it is a giveaway to the rich GOP mess..

No, you don't.

Debbie WTF is your definition in your own words. Your link it can mean anything.

Check this in Wikipedia the history of socialism. it says socialism in the first half of the twentieth century was mainly referring to the USSR, but afterafter World War 2 that became communism and socialism is usually democratic and the first thing it needs pal is Universal Healthcare.
Or just keep going around in circles with the brainwashed u.s. populace.
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Sorry you think my masters in history and obsession with the subject in foreign countries means nothing. Read the Wikipedia article anyway LOL.

I still want to know where you got your masters at, in a cracker jack box?

University of Rochester

 

[francoHFW]

No, you don't.

Debbie WTF is your definition in your own words. Your link it can mean anything.

Check this in Wikipedia the history of socialism. it says socialism in the first half of the twentieth century was mainly referring to the USSR, but afterafter World War 2 that became communism and socialism is usually democratic and the first thing it needs pal is Universal Healthcare.
Or just keep going around in circles with the brainwashed u.s. populace.
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And who is Debbie exactly?

I tried to go back and change that but it's too late that is my smartphone talking or listening....

History of socialism - Wikipedia

And... which bit? Fucking hell.

Read the whole thing. It's the last couple of paragraphs.

 

[francoHFW]

Who do you think are socialists? Definition is means of production are owned or regulated by the community... So it's anything but pure socialism is communism, socialism is now really just Faire capitalism with a good safety net. Outside the US or where people are political.

So, if we go for Socialist being a country with some Socialism, then the US is a Socialist country.

Try - education. Mass education is socialist.

Public libraries.

Police force

Armed forces

Infrastructure

Public parks

Social security

You know, Socialist things in the US.

Not quite you need Health Care at least I think. "we are all socialists now!"--Finland prime minister when ACA passed.

Why do you need healthcare? Because it's convenient for an argument?

Rubbish.

The problem here is that people will move the borders of things in order to make an argument stick.

What's a socialist country? Probably one that has full scale socialism, which I'd say is the means of production.

Healthcare, armed forces, police, infrastructure, all socialized, doesn't make a socialized country.

As I said, socialism is an economic term, the definition from the dictionary is a state where means of production are owned or regulated by the community. But today there is pure socialism which is communism and doesn't work, and socialism is just fair well regulated capitalism with a good safety net. We need Universal Health Care to qualify as socialists. The prime minister of Finland and I know best I guess. I have had many discussions in foreign countries about it and I know my 20th century history. I have a masters in history and and speak fluent French civilization.

No, Socialism is where the means of production are in the hands of the government.

Communism is when there is no government and the means of production are in the hands of the people.

Very different.

No, you don't need universal healthcare to be socialist and couldn't give a rats ass about you CV making you think you're somehow superior to other people and therefore you must be right.

In the hands of the government can meet a lot of things... Ownership through regulation, communism through Democratic socialism,--which is redundant nowadays.