“To all of those who have asked, I will not be going to the Inauguration on January 20th.”

That is absolutely disputed.
Bullshit.

Are you saying mail in voting wasn't changed? Deadlines extended? signature verification? Drive thru voting?
The courts ruled in the State's favor and not Trump' s. If the State had lost in the court, then the modification for mail in voting during a pandemic, would not have been done.

We settle disputes in this democracy, through the Courts and NOT THROUGH terrorists attacking our capitol.

Why do you think lawlessness and terrorism, is going to get you anywhere?

Who taught you that?
 
The courts ruled in the State's favor and not Trump' s. If the State had lost in the court, then the modification for mail in voting during a pandemic, would not have been done.

We settle disputes in this democracy, through the Courts and NOT THROUGH terrorists attacking our capital.

Why do you think lawlessness and terrorism, is going to get you anywhere?

Who taught you that?

What do you mean by ''this democracy"?
 
That is absolutely disputed.
Bullshit.

Are you saying mail in voting wasn't changed? Deadlines extended? signature verification? Drive thru voting?
The courts ruled in the State's favor and not Trump' s. If the State had lost in the court, then the modification for mail in voting during a pandemic, would not have been done.

We settle disputes in this democracy, through the Courts and NOT THROUGH terrorists attacking our capital.

Why do you think lawlessness and terrorism, is going to get you anywhere?

Who taught you that?

Burning cities did get democrats anywhere, maybe that's why?

gmLcyy-Ejb7Rhe2LFydg7Hitg5ocX652e8wtaOwdVKjHlXi08HE98avE3oH7r_TFOXk4WYHCeUkkaw=s640-c-fcrop64=1,00000000ffffffff-nd


As for the courts, laughably naive and stupid.
 
That is absolutely disputed.
Bullshit.

Are you saying mail in voting wasn't changed? Deadlines extended? signature verification? Drive thru voting?
I am again saying that your arguments were considered in numerous courts of law and found to be unfounded. I repeat

That is absolutely disputed...by numerous courts that threw that specious argument out. Including the Supreme Court...that is overwhelmingly conservative and has not one...but THREE Trump appointees on it.

Just STOP

You are getting people killed

I get that you're pissed that your guy lost the election.

I get that you think that somehow you deserved to win it.

You just lost

Be a grown up
 
It was great. The founders approve 100%. Freedom is worth dying for, so their lives were not in vein
The Founders put DOWN insurrections like this several times...with loss of life. Look up Shay's Reberllion and the Whiskey Rebellion

George Washingtom lead the Militia and with force of arms...crushed them

So tell us...are you stupid enough to die for Trump? Are you stupid enough to risk your job as many have done? Are you stupid enough to kill your fellow Americans...for TRUMP?

Or are you just gonna crank up others on the internet and let THEM do the dying and killing...
 
The courts ruled in the State's favor and not Trump' s. If the State had lost in the court, then the modification for mail in voting during a pandemic, would not have been done.

We settle disputes in this democracy, through the Courts and NOT THROUGH terrorists attacking our capital.

Why do you think lawlessness and terrorism, is going to get you anywhere?

Who taught you that?

What do you mean by ''this democracy"?
This Democratic Republic, our form of representative democracy.....


There are Parliamentary democracies
Even Monarchies that have democratic forms of governing.

There is no Pure Democracy Nations on Earth.... every one of the world's democratic nations, are a form of representative democracies.
 
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This Democratic Republic, our form of representative democracy.....


There are Parliamentary democracies
Even Monarchies that have democratic forms of governing.

There is no Pure Democracy Nations on Earth.... every one of the world's democratic nations, are a form of representative democracies.

The American system is "a compound Republic". A combination, of central and State Republics under which: "The different governments will control each other while within each Republic there are two safeguarding features: (a) a division of powers, as well as (b) a system of checks and balances between separate departments: "Hence a double security arises to the rights of the people."

See Federalist #51 by Madison.

By far the greater quantity and variety of power was retained by the government of each State when the United States Constitution was framed and adopted in 1787-1788. Only a comparatively small part of each State's power was delegated by its people to the new central, or Federal, government ,chiefly the powers concerning "war, peace, negotiation and foreign commerce" (See Federalist # 45 by Madison).

This delegated-power government, the central Republic, was granted few and limited powers; while each State's government is a full-power Republic under the State Constitution, subject to its restrictions, also to that grant, and to the few restrictions specified expressly in the United States Constitution as applying to the governments of the States.
 
That is absolutely disputed.
Bullshit.

Are you saying mail in voting wasn't changed? Deadlines extended? signature verification? Drive thru voting?
The courts ruled in the State's favor and not Trump' s. If the State had lost in the court, then the modification for mail in voting during a pandemic, would not have been done.

We settle disputes in this democracy, through the Courts and NOT THROUGH terrorists attacking our capital.

Why do you think lawlessness and terrorism, is going to get you anywhere?

Who taught you that?

Burning cities did get democrats anywhere, maybe that's why?

gmLcyy-Ejb7Rhe2LFydg7Hitg5ocX652e8wtaOwdVKjHlXi08HE98avE3oH7r_TFOXk4WYHCeUkkaw=s640-c-fcrop64=1,00000000ffffffff-nd


As for the courts, laughably naive and stupid.
You never read the court cases nor the different rulings by their judges, MANY of them, appointed by President Trump or other Republican presidents, and several cases were appealed all the way to the Federal Courts or began in Federal courts not State courts.

Unlike you, I haven't been completely brainwashed to hate my country, and hate the rule of law.

No one cheated, we followed the law.... citizens voted based on the rulings in the courts....They simply followed what the Law and Courts told them was constitutional...

As an EXAMPLE.... PA citizens voting via absentee ballots were good if mailed and stamped by election day which they were told, so that is what citizens did....as just one of the examples of the court cases....(only later they got screwed and their votes were not counted)

These court cases and the judge rulings are important for YOU TO READ, and understand their reasoning to rule the State's measures/changes were CONSTITUTIONAL.
 
This Democratic Republic, our form of representative democracy.....


There are Parliamentary democracies
Even Monarchies that have democratic forms of governing.

There is no Pure Democracy Nations on Earth.... every one of the world's democratic nations, are a form of representative democracies.

The American system is "a compound Republic". A combination, of central and State Republics under which: "The different governments will control each other while within each Republic there are two safeguarding features: (a) a division of powers, as well as (b) a system of checks and balances between separate departments: "Hence a double security arises to the rights of the people."

See Federalist #51 by Madison.

By far the greater quantity and variety of power was retained by the government of each State when the United States Constitution was framed and adopted in 1787-1788. Only a comparatively small part of each State's power was delegated by its people to the new central, or Federal, government ,chiefly the powers concerning "war, peace, negotiation and foreign commerce" (See Federalist # 45 by Madison).

This delegated-power government, the central Republic, was granted few and limited powers; while each State's government is a full-power Republic under the State Constitution, subject to its restrictions, also to that grant, and to the few restrictions specified expressly in the United States Constitution as applying to the governments of the States.
Thanks! I will read it Natural Cit....
Yes, we are a republic!

But our Republic, is still a form of democracy, small d.

And we promote democracy throughout the world, at least we used to be able to, prior to Jan 6th, 2021... :(
 
That is absolutely disputed.
Bullshit.

Are you saying mail in voting wasn't changed? Deadlines extended? signature verification? Drive thru voting?
The courts ruled in the State's favor and not Trump' s. If the State had lost in the court, then the modification for mail in voting during a pandemic, would not have been done.

We settle disputes in this democracy, through the Courts and NOT THROUGH terrorists attacking our capital.

Why do you think lawlessness and terrorism, is going to get you anywhere?

Who taught you that?

Burning cities did get democrats anywhere, maybe that's why?

gmLcyy-Ejb7Rhe2LFydg7Hitg5ocX652e8wtaOwdVKjHlXi08HE98avE3oH7r_TFOXk4WYHCeUkkaw=s640-c-fcrop64=1,00000000ffffffff-nd


As for the courts, laughably naive and stupid.
You never read the court cases nor the different rulings by their judges, MANY of them, appointed by President Trump or other Republican presidents, and several cases were appealed all the way to the Federal Courts or began in Federal courts not State courts.

Unlike you, I haven't been completely brainwashed to hate my country, and hate the rule of law.

No one cheated, we followed the law.... citizens voted based on the rulings in the courts....They simply followed what the Law and Courts told them was constitutional...

As an EXAMPLE.... PA citizens voting via absentee ballots were good if mailed and stamped by election day which they were told, so that is what citizens did....as just one of the examples of the court cases....(only later they got screwed and their votes were not counted)

These court cases and the judge rulings are important for YOU TO READ, and understand their reasoning to rule the State's measures/changes were CONSTITUTIONAL.

You hate the founding principles of the country, freedom. Stop lying.

Nothing like that happened in the court cases either, you are just making it up. Cases were thrown out for lack of standing not for there being no case. The election was not even legal if you simply read the law, as even the judge SUGGESTED.

It's pretty easy to tell you hate American values. According to American values you think for yourself and don't listen to corrupt authority - they hanged those guys or whatever.
 
That is absolutely disputed.
Bullshit.

Are you saying mail in voting wasn't changed? Deadlines extended? signature verification? Drive thru voting?
The courts ruled in the State's favor and not Trump' s. If the State had lost in the court, then the modification for mail in voting during a pandemic, would not have been done.

We settle disputes in this democracy, through the Courts and NOT THROUGH terrorists attacking our capital.

Why do you think lawlessness and terrorism, is going to get you anywhere?

Who taught you that?

Burning cities did get democrats anywhere, maybe that's why?

gmLcyy-Ejb7Rhe2LFydg7Hitg5ocX652e8wtaOwdVKjHlXi08HE98avE3oH7r_TFOXk4WYHCeUkkaw=s640-c-fcrop64=1,00000000ffffffff-nd


As for the courts, laughably naive and stupid.
You never read the court cases nor the different rulings by their judges, MANY of them, appointed by President Trump or other Republican presidents, and several cases were appealed all the way to the Federal Courts or began in Federal courts not State courts.

Unlike you, I haven't been completely brainwashed to hate my country, and hate the rule of law.

No one cheated, we followed the law.... citizens voted based on the rulings in the courts....They simply followed what the Law and Courts told them was constitutional...

As an EXAMPLE.... PA citizens voting via absentee ballots were good if mailed and stamped by election day which they were told, so that is what citizens did....as just one of the examples of the court cases....(only later they got screwed and their votes were not counted)

These court cases and the judge rulings are important for YOU TO READ, and understand their reasoning to rule the State's measures/changes were CONSTITUTIONAL.

You hate the founding principles of the country, freedom. Stop lying.

Nothing like that happened in the court cases either, you are just making it up. Cases were thrown out for lack of standing not for there being no case. The election was not even legal if you simply read the law, as even the judge SUGGESTED.

It's pretty easy to tell you hate American values. According to American values you think for yourself and don't listen to corrupt authority - they hanged those guys or whatever.
Do you understand what "lack of standing" means?

It means that there is no evidence that the complainant was harmed. It means that it is a frivilous suit

Courts ruled on what you are whining about and threw it out because it had noi merit.

Republican, Trump APPOINTED JUDGES DID THAT
 
That is absolutely disputed.
Bullshit.

Are you saying mail in voting wasn't changed? Deadlines extended? signature verification? Drive thru voting?
The courts ruled in the State's favor and not Trump' s. If the State had lost in the court, then the modification for mail in voting during a pandemic, would not have been done.

We settle disputes in this democracy, through the Courts and NOT THROUGH terrorists attacking our capital.

Why do you think lawlessness and terrorism, is going to get you anywhere?

Who taught you that?

Burning cities did get democrats anywhere, maybe that's why?

gmLcyy-Ejb7Rhe2LFydg7Hitg5ocX652e8wtaOwdVKjHlXi08HE98avE3oH7r_TFOXk4WYHCeUkkaw=s640-c-fcrop64=1,00000000ffffffff-nd


As for the courts, laughably naive and stupid.
You never read the court cases nor the different rulings by their judges, MANY of them, appointed by President Trump or other Republican presidents, and several cases were appealed all the way to the Federal Courts or began in Federal courts not State courts.

Unlike you, I haven't been completely brainwashed to hate my country, and hate the rule of law.

No one cheated, we followed the law.... citizens voted based on the rulings in the courts....They simply followed what the Law and Courts told them was constitutional...

As an EXAMPLE.... PA citizens voting via absentee ballots were good if mailed and stamped by election day which they were told, so that is what citizens did....as just one of the examples of the court cases....(only later they got screwed and their votes were not counted)

These court cases and the judge rulings are important for YOU TO READ, and understand their reasoning to rule the State's measures/changes were CONSTITUTIONAL.

You hate the founding principles of the country, freedom. Stop lying.

Nothing like that happened in the court cases either, you are just making it up. Cases were thrown out for lack of standing not for there being no case. The election was not even legal if you simply read the law, as even the judge SUGGESTED.

It's pretty easy to tell you hate American values. According to American values you think for yourself and don't listen to corrupt authority - they hanged those guys or whatever.
Nope! Some were lack of standing and some Lack of Evidence... and these cases went th4ough lower courts and appeals courts and to the State supreme court.... They were adjudicated.

Elections are run by the State's

NOT by the Federal govt..... the joint session on Jan 6 is simply to verify and put in to the record, the State certified electoral votes.

NOTHING was ever going to change these votes from entering in to the record.....

Every republican congress and Senate critter, KNEW THAT before they objected.... Yet they played along 2with this deceitful and DANGEROUS Trump con game!

Pence told trump it was unconsti5utional for him not to record the State Certified Electoral #college votes... Trump kept pushing him anyway....
 
That is absolutely disputed.
Bullshit.

Are you saying mail in voting wasn't changed? Deadlines extended? signature verification? Drive thru voting?
The courts ruled in the State's favor and not Trump' s. If the State had lost in the court, then the modification for mail in voting during a pandemic, would not have been done.

We settle disputes in this democracy, through the Courts and NOT THROUGH terrorists attacking our capital.

Why do you think lawlessness and terrorism, is going to get you anywhere?

Who taught you that?

Burning cities did get democrats anywhere, maybe that's why?

gmLcyy-Ejb7Rhe2LFydg7Hitg5ocX652e8wtaOwdVKjHlXi08HE98avE3oH7r_TFOXk4WYHCeUkkaw=s640-c-fcrop64=1,00000000ffffffff-nd


As for the courts, laughably naive and stupid.
You never read the court cases nor the different rulings by their judges, MANY of them, appointed by President Trump or other Republican presidents, and several cases were appealed all the way to the Federal Courts or began in Federal courts not State courts.

Unlike you, I haven't been completely brainwashed to hate my country, and hate the rule of law.

No one cheated, we followed the law.... citizens voted based on the rulings in the courts....They simply followed what the Law and Courts told them was constitutional...

As an EXAMPLE.... PA citizens voting via absentee ballots were good if mailed and stamped by election day which they were told, so that is what citizens did....as just one of the examples of the court cases....(only later they got screwed and their votes were not counted)

These court cases and the judge rulings are important for YOU TO READ, and understand their reasoning to rule the State's measures/changes were CONSTITUTIONAL.

You hate the founding principles of the country, freedom. Stop lying.

Nothing like that happened in the court cases either, you are just making it up. Cases were thrown out for lack of standing not for there being no case. The election was not even legal if you simply read the law, as even the judge SUGGESTED.

It's pretty easy to tell you hate American values. According to American values you think for yourself and don't listen to corrupt authority - they hanged those guys or whatever.
Nope! Some were lack of standing and some Lack of Evidence... and these cases went th4ough lower courts and appeals courts and to the State supreme court.... They were adjudicated.

Elections are run by the State's

NOT by the Federal govt..... the joint session on Jan 6 is simply to verify and put in to the record, the State certified electoral votes.

NOTHING was ever going to change these votes from entering in to the record.....

Every republican congress and Senate critter, KNEW THAT before they objected.... Yet they played along 2with this deceitful and DANGEROUS Trump con game!

Pence told trump it was unconsti5utional for him not to record the State Certified Electoral #college votes... Trump kept pushing him anyway....

Total bullshit, it is possible to contest the election during the counting. Further, Pence also had a chance to interfere, which is an unknown territory.

Completely clueless... too much CNN.
 
Thanks! I will read it Natural Cit....
Yes, we are a republic!

But our Republic, is still a form of democracy, small d.

And we promote democracy throughout the world, at least we used to be able to, prior to Jan 6th, 2021... :(

It's actually a good discussion to have, just for the purpose of clarity. And it's not even one of those discusions where it has to ramble on needlessly.

I think a lot of people do understand democracy versus "a Democracy'' but there's also many times that "a Democracy'' gets used in place of democracy and then when that happens the whole conversation gets turned upside down and that leads to a thorough misunderstanding of a popular type government versus form of government and then it's all just a mess as discussion continues. There's a difference.

Anyway. Thanks for not taking my previous communication the wrong way, I wasn't really looking for an argument.

If you want a really good read, I'll attach one of my personal files. Democracy versus Republic: An Important Distinction. It's short. It's very concise explanation.
 

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Fraudulent election is the big lie that Trump has used to try and retain power and manipulate you.

A top Georgia election official says Rudy Giuliani 'lied' about election fraud by presenting a deceptively edited video as evidence
You can call Trump a liar, you can call Giuliani a liar, but there is one thing you can't dispute when it comes to election fraud....... Election laws were changed unconstitutionally. State courts can't change election laws. PERIOD.

No they weren't changed uconstitutionally.. That's just more lies. Trump's got a new one every five minutes.. Giuliani is going to lose his law license for lying about the election.
 
"For the two of you that asked if I would be attending Joseph R. Biden Jr's inauguration event, the answer is no, I've been banned from there like I've been banned from every other place imaginable."
 
"For the two of you that asked if I would be attending Joseph R. Biden Jr's inauguration event, the answer is no, I've been banned from there like I've been banned from every other place imaginable."

Trump isn't going to be welcome anywhere.
 

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