Tired about being embarrassed about America:

[BluesLegend]

An anti gun anti Trump OP filled with lies and nonsense.

 

[Dragonlady]

The fuck are you talking about?

if you reread you will see it was not economics

Less then 100 people are killed a year in mass shooting usually yet you would deny over 100 MILLION citizens their rights under the constitution for a NONE problem. Go figure, then you rant about democracy like anything you said had anything to do with democracy.

There were 427 mass shootings last year. A mass shooting is a three or more victims. That’s over 1300 people.

300 people a day are shot in the US. Not all die, but 35,000 people a year die from gunshot wounds, including suicides.

Stop trying to minimize the carnage.

So you need to add in the 20000 suicides and the justified shootings to reach your number talk about lying with statistics. Guess what retard in Japan they have NO firearms BUT suicides are MUCH higher then in the USA. Most of those shot are black and are shot BY blacks. Most are shot by career criminals And last I checked you lied about mass shootings since gang related shootings don't count. As for your 35000 number lets take that at face value shall we? there are 320 MILLION people in the US care to do the math and tell us what percent of people are killed out of that number? Less then a percent of a percent of a percent, but you would deny us our protect constitutional right to keep own and bear firearms because you are a scared little girl afraid of your shadow. Remind me how many die in car accidents and then explain why we have private ownership of vehicles if 35000 is enough to justify losing a right?

I’m not scared. I don’t live in the US. I’m not worried about anyone shooting up my grandchildren’s schools.

Shot dead is shot dead. When you start choosing which gun deaths you’re counting, and not counting blacks or suicides, you’re being dishonest and racist.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Exactly. Our founders could never even conceive of a pathologically lying president no one can trust..

or liberals that would make it possible for anyone to vote for such a man no matter how stupid and unqualified they are.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

You're not a conservative.
Next.

any reason to think that??

 

[RetiredGySgt]

The fuck are you talking about?

if you reread you will see it was not economics

Less then 100 people are killed a year in mass shooting usually yet you would deny over 100 MILLION citizens their rights under the constitution for a NONE problem. Go figure, then you rant about democracy like anything you said had anything to do with democracy.

There were 427 mass shootings last year. A mass shooting is a three or more victims. That’s over 1300 people.

300 people a day are shot in the US. Not all die, but 35,000 people a year die from gunshot wounds, including suicides.

Stop trying to minimize the carnage.

So you need to add in the 20000 suicides and the justified shootings to reach your number talk about lying with statistics. Guess what retard in Japan they have NO firearms BUT suicides are MUCH higher then in the USA. Most of those shot are black and are shot BY blacks. Most are shot by career criminals And last I checked you lied about mass shootings since gang related shootings don't count. As for your 35000 number lets take that at face value shall we? there are 320 MILLION people in the US care to do the math and tell us what percent of people are killed out of that number? Less then a percent of a percent of a percent, but you would deny us our protect constitutional right to keep own and bear firearms because you are a scared little girl afraid of your shadow. Remind me how many die in car accidents and then explain why we have private ownership of vehicles if 35000 is enough to justify losing a right?

I’m not scared. I don’t live in the US. I’m not worried about anyone shooting up my grandchildren’s schools.

Shot dead is shot dead. When you start choosing which gun deaths you’re counting, and not counting blacks or suicides, you’re being dishonest and racist.

Again retard you got no business telling us what we should do or not do. And again less then a percent of a percent of a percent and you woukd deny MILLIONS their rights how very communist of you.

 

[protectionist]

Exactly. Our founders could never even conceive of a pathologically lying president no one can trust..

For 2 years, I've challenged USMB liberals to show one instance of Trump lying (with evidence), None have ever succeeded.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Tired of being embarrassed about America

Then pack up and leave, go we don't want or need you beat it.

rather fix it than leave. OK?

 

[Vastator]

Americans have allowed our government to be transformed into a sick and perverted shadow of what the founders intended. The nation we live in, has little in common with the nation the founding fathers gave us.

what did they intend?

It’s been laid out in the founding documents. And the founders own words. You’ve got some history to catch up on...

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Exactly. Our founders could never even conceive of a pathologically lying president no one can trust..

For 2 years, I've challenged USMB liberals to show one instance of Trump lying (with evidence), None have ever succeeded.

NYTimes publishes a list of 457 lies so far. Mexico will pay for wall. biggest inauguration crowds ever. etc etc

 

[protectionist]

The 2d Amendment states we can own and bear arms.

It does not state that we can own and bear any kind of arms.

SCOTUS has repeatedly ruled as to the type of arms we can own and bear.

The 4th Circuit is send up a case that rules 'weapons of war' are not legal for Americans to own.

"type of arms" is a silly diversion red herring. The most important issue is getting rid of the idiotic/dangerous gun-free zones that liberals have created, and getting guns into the schools that they can defend themselves with.

Arming teachers, administrators, maintenance people, armed guards, whatever, but it must be NOW. Another shooter could show up Monday morning, (while airhead liberals babble on about gun control).

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

It’s been laid out in the founding documents.

translation: I don't know what founders intended

 

[RetiredGySgt]

It’s been laid out in the founding documents.

translation: I don't know what founders intended

You are the retard ignoring the knowledge provided. we can tell you what they said but you will just ignore it as you have everything else we said. Their words are in print and available at an easy search function read it for your self and educate your dumb ass.

 

[BluesLegend]

4) The right to bear arms to defend ourselves against liberal govt was, again, not clearly detailed by our timid Founders who certainly and blamelessly did not anticipate liberal school shooters.

Stop, go back and research unalienable rights because you are way out of whack here.

Thomas Jefferson, "We hold these Truths to be self-evident...that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness

Self-evident - Such statements do not require proof. The “truths” are held to be unquestionable and beyond debate, since their truth is said to be obvious. They can be stated without elaborating or defending them.

We have a great many unalienable rights, none are granted by the U.S. Constitution and most are not even mentioned because they are self-evident. A few are so important that they were stated, free speech and the right to keep and bare arms which in the 1700's was certainly not the norm in most countries. But they were stated without elaboration because they are self-evident. The 2nd perhaps the best with SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED.

 

[protectionist]

NYTimes publishes a list of 457 lies so far. Mexico will pay for wall. biggest inauguration crowds ever. etc etc

The NY Times IS a lie. What good is a list of lies from a lie ?

Of course Mexico will pay for the wall. From remittances$$, anchor baby welfare, etc, and if need be, we could always do 1846 all over again. A good military ass-kicking.

 

[Leweman]

Me too. Good luck fixing that.

 

[Contumacious]

Tired of being embarrassed about America.


Honestly, even as a conservative I am very embarrassed by Trump and the school shootings and what they says about our country. If our roots are so good why do we have these issues that other civilized countries don't have? Our president is a guy who looks really odd, is 3 times married, cheats on his wife, is dishonest in business, and lies routinely and obliviously as if he has dementia. And now we see the very sad spectacle of terrified school kids begging adults to save them from being massacred in their classrooms by lunatics with military assault rifles. What other civilized nation on earth has these problems, problems which must signal a far broader rot within.


Causes:

1) Founders' Constitution kept each branch of govt from growing relative to other branches but not govt in general from growing very liberally,


2) Founders had no idea how important religious values were as the source of social structure and morality so ignored subject altogether, in effect, creating religious anarchy.


3) Thinking, grammar, and punctuation in Constitution is so vague and messy as to not make it clear that central govt was to have only a few enumerated powers while states were to retain unlimited remaining powers. Thus, we now virtually have the liberal federal monarchy monopoly our founders thought they were escaping.


4) The right to bear arms to defend ourselves against liberal govt was, again, not clearly detailed by our timid Founders who certainly and blamelessly did not anticipate liberal school shooters. But why don't we have the wherewithal to take obvious measures to prevent or inhibit school shooters while reaffirming our right to bear arms to protect ourselves from liberal govt? Why? Because conservatives know full well liberals want to take away take away all guns, private/local/schools, religion, state/local independence and consolidate all power in a liberal communist central govt.


5) Founders again were too timid to say Democracy is mob rule without intelligent office holders and voters so they sheepishly said you had to be 35 to qualify to be president. If they had said you have to pass a test to be president and to vote we would have an intelligent democracy that would not include Trump and 3/4 of those who mob vote now, not for the commonweal but for money in their pockets.

Indeed I am:

We have become a bellicose welfare/warfare police state.

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[BluesLegend]

Tired of being embarrassed about America

Then pack up and leave, go we don't want or need you beat it.

rather fix it than leave. OK?

Fix it you don't even understand the basics of our Constitution, dude refrain from voting until you get yourself straightened out.

 

[Crixus]

View attachment 178630 63% of Americans are totally embarrassed of this malignant narcissistic incompetent buffoon
as president.

What he and his failed GOP congress doesn’t understand that the 2nd amendment was written when they used single round muskets and shot it from up to a mile away... but for some reason think preventing military style assault weapons is against the 2nd Amendment.

1,000% of Americans are embarrassed y this stupid drivel in the post above. That and feckless, spineless leaders kept in power by dweebs like you who can be triggered by flashing lights and dingbats

 

[Vastator]

It’s been laid out in the founding documents.

translation: I don't know what founders intended

You didn't need to translate. I already knew that.

 

[JakeStarkey]

The 2d Amendment states we can own and bear arms.

It does not state that we can own and bear any kind of arms.

SCOTUS has repeatedly ruled as to the type of arms we can own and bear.

The 4th Circuit is send up a case that rules 'weapons of war' are not legal for Americans to own.

SCOTUS ruled in 39 that the TYPE of weapon protected by the 2nd was those in use of use and usable BY THE MILITARY.

That was a long time ago, and many decisions have massaged that ruling.

SCOTUS is very likely to accept the 4th's ruling.