Times of the Gentiles

[hobelim]

Still waiting.

"Then I saw in the right hand of Him who sat on the throne a scroll written within and on the back, sealed with seven seals. And I saw a strong angel proclaiming with a loud voice, “Who is worthy to open the scroll and to break its seals?” But no one in heaven or on earth or under the earth was able to open the scroll or to look in it. I began to weep loudly, because no one was found worthy to open and read the scroll, or to look inside."

The difference between Judaism and Christianity is that TNT is adamant about humans being incapable of earning any credit except by the Grace of God.
In other words, a Christian can never be worthy of God's Grace.
So where's the messiah?
Still waiting.

"Many will purify themselves and be refined making themselves shining white, but the wicked shall continue in wickedness and none of them shall understand."

J was crucified; all of those who believed in him were saved...
What's the delay?

What delay?

Like I said, at the resurrection, the dead in Christ are the first to rise.

 

[RodISHI]

Luke 13:30
30 And, behold, there are last which shall be first, and there are first which shall be last.

The word of the LORD that came unto Hosea= (or Oshea "salvation" the heavenly host brought forth as a son of Nun= ("fish" or "posterity" given by the spirit, etymology of this word is from the ancient root word נוּן perpetuity= "a bond, a security with no absolute or fixed maturity date", time restrictions are not applicable it is eternity, perpetual, the holy spirit continues on and on) who is the father of Joshua= "Jehovah's salvation is with us" who leads the people [again from those heavenly host put within by breath] across the Jordan= "descender" into the Land of Promise when it is time to quit descending), the son of Beeri ("my well", recall the verse to drink from your own cistern [that spiritual portion which was installed from the manufacturer and brought forth in its time]), in the days of Uzziah= ("my strength is Jehovah" who is he son [also a host within each that is born] of king Amaziah "Jehovah is mighty" of Judah= "praise, a lion's whelp" [Judah was brought forth through Jacob "heel catcher [as to prevent being crushed by the carnal] and a supplanter [that which supplants the carnal with the spiritual]" and Leah= "weary"] and Amaziah is also king of Judah for 52 years; this host brings forth Azariah "Jehovah has helped" who is the host that is the 'godly friend' of the second son of David= "beloved", Daniel= "God is my judge" who Nebuchadnezzar= "may Nebo protect the crown [speaking of gold or the place in us where the pure mind is kept in safety]" renames him a Babylonian= "born in Babylon" name of Abednego= "servant of Nebo", Nebo= "announcer", Daniel is still a captive in Babylon= "confusion" at this point when given the name Belteshazzar= "lord of the straightened's treasure [the up-righted who were bent]"), Jotham= "Jehovah is perfect", Ahaz= "he has grasped", and Hezekiah (or Jehizkiah = "Jehovah has made strong"), kings of Judah, and in the days of Jeroboam= ("the people will contend" [This is where divisions are made within as the Lord takes away a portion for the sins committed by Jeroboam like were committed by king Omri= "pupil of Jehovah" when the children of Israel worship the Golden Calf= "a casting" in the Lord's tents. Idolatry is not acceptable. There are ten portions that have feet (treading portions), portions that remain with the sons of the beloved David to keep the promise the Lord has given to the beloved] Jeroboam is a host born of Joash= "given by the Lord", a king of Israel.= "God prevails they desire to be children of Jehovah" that desire is in the land of YOU the human in a stage of completion who has gotten through the point of being Jacob now being renamed Israel, Israelite's are those host in you from the tribes twelve tribes of Israel who are the "contenders" that help get you to the point of fullness in the Lord where you can be given the reigns to your bridle, that place where you have some control of your own mouth and mind, to help you be the master for you can control your destiny, understanding your emotions, not jumping into a furnace of self subjection, trials, tribulations, and affliction, etc.).

The beginning of the word of the LORD by Hosea. And the LORD said to Hosea, Go, take unto thee a wife of whoredoms and children of whoredoms: for the land hath committed great whoredom, departing from the LORD.

So he went and took Gomer= "complete" the daughter "bath=company, town, group, church, etc." of Diblaim= ("two cakes" who is the father in the law to Hosea); which conceived, and bare him a son.

And the LORD said unto him, Call his name Jezreel= ("God sows", who brings forth that place in the spirit called Etam= "lair of wild beasts"); for yet a little while, and I will avenge the blood of Jezreel upon the house of Jehu= "Jehovah is He" who overthrew the kingdom of Omri, and will cause to cease the kingdom of the house of Israel.

And it shall come to pass at that day, that I will break the bow "(archers, for hunting, battle, for bending)" of Israel in the valley "low-lands" of Jezreel.

And she conceived again, and bare a daughter= "bath". And God said unto him, Call her name Loruhamah= "no mercy": for I will no more have mercy upon the house of Israel "contenders"; but I will utterly take them away.

Then said God, Call his name Loammi: for ye are not my people, and I will not be your God.
But I will have mercy upon the house of Judah, and will save them by the LORD their God, and will not save them by bow, nor by sword, nor by battle, by horses, nor by horsemen.

Now when she had weaned Loruhamah= "not my people", she conceived, and bare a son.

Yet the number of the children of Israel shall be as the sand of the sea, which cannot be measured nor numbered; and it shall come to pass, that in the place where it was said unto them, Ye are not my people, there it shall be said unto them, Ye are the sons of the living God.

Then shall the children of Judah and the children of Israel be gathered together, and appoint themselves one head, and they shall come up out of the land: for great shall be the day of Jezreel.

Now with all that in mind who is the HEAD? That should be fairly simple to answer and it is not just a mere carnally minded human.

 

[onefour1]

According to the Book of Mormon Christ visited the people on this continent after his resurrection. Here is what he told them regarding the Gentiles and the House of Israel in the last days:

Third Nephi

Chapter 21
Israel will be gathered when the Book of Mormon comes forth—The Gentiles will be established as a free people in America—They will be saved if they believe and obey; otherwise, they will be cut off and destroyed—Israel will build the New Jerusalem, and the lost tribes will return. About A.D. 34.

1 And verily I say unto you, I give unto you a sign, that ye may know the time when these things shall be about to take place—that I shall gather in, from their long dispersion, my people, O house of Israel, and shall establish again among them my Zion;

2 And behold, this is the thing which I will give unto you for a sign—for verily I say unto you that when these things which I declare unto you, and which I shall declare unto you hereafter of myself, and by the power of the Holy Ghost which shall be given unto you of the Father, shall be made known unto the Gentiles that they may know concerning this people who are a remnant of the house of Jacob, and concerning this my people who shall be scattered by them;

3 Verily, verily, I say unto you, when these things shall be made known unto them of the Father, and shall come forth of the Father, from them unto you;

4 For it is wisdom in the Father that they should be established in this land, and be set up as a free people by the power of the Father, that these things might come forth from them unto a remnant of your seed, that the covenant of the Father may be fulfilled which he hath covenanted with his people, O house of Israel;

5 Therefore, when these works and the works which shall be wrought among you hereafter shall come forth from the Gentiles, unto your seed which shall dwindle in unbelief because of iniquity;

6 For thus it behooveth the Father that it should come forth from the Gentiles, that he may show forth his power unto the Gentiles, for this cause that the Gentiles, if they will not harden their hearts, that they may repent and come unto me and be baptized in my name and know of the true points of my doctrine, that they may be numbered among my people, O house of Israel;

7 And when these things come to pass that thy seed shall begin to know these things—it shall be a sign unto them, that they may know that the work of the Father hath already commenced unto the fulfilling of the covenant which he hath made unto the people who are of the house of Israel.

8 And when that day shall come, it shall come to pass that kings shall shut their mouths; for that which had not been told them shall they see; and that which they had not heard shall they consider.

9 For in that day, for my sake shall the Father work a work, which shall be a great and a marvelous work among them; and there shall be among them those who will not believe it, although a man shall declare it unto them.

10 But behold, the life of my servant shall be in my hand; therefore they shall not hurt him, although he shall be marred because of them. Yet I will heal him, for I will show unto them that my wisdom is greater than the cunning of the devil.

11 Therefore it shall come to pass that whosoever will not believe in my words, who am Jesus Christ, which the Father shall cause him to bring forth unto the Gentiles, and shall give unto him power that he shall bring them forth unto the Gentiles, (it shall be done even as Moses said) they shall be cut off from among my people who are of the covenant.

12 And my people who are a remnant of Jacob shall be among the Gentiles, yea, in the midst of them as a lion among the beasts of the forest, as a young lion among the flocks of sheep, who, if he go through both treadeth down and teareth in pieces, and none can deliver.

13 Their hand shall be lifted up upon their adversaries, and all their enemies shall be cut off.

14 Yea, wo be unto the Gentiles except they repent; for it shall come to pass in that day, saith the Father, that I will cut off thy horses out of the midst of thee, and I will destroy thy chariots;

15 And I will cut off the cities of thy land, and throw down all thy strongholds;

16 And I will cut off witchcrafts out of thy land, and thou shalt have no more soothsayers;

17 Thy graven images I will also cut off, and thy standing images out of the midst of thee, and thou shalt no more worship the works of thy hands;

18 And I will pluck up thy groves out of the midst of thee; so will I destroy thy cities.

19 And it shall come to pass that all lyings, and deceivings, and envyings, and strifes, and priestcrafts, and whoredoms, shall be done away.

20 For it shall come to pass, saith the Father, that at that day whosoever will not repent and come unto my Beloved Son, them will I cut off from among my people, O house of Israel;

21 And I will execute vengeance and fury upon them, even as upon the heathen, such as they have not heard.

22 But if they will repent and hearken unto my words, and harden not their hearts, I will establish my church among them, and they shall come in unto the covenant and be numbered among this the remnant of Jacob, unto whom I have given this land for their inheritance;

23 And they shall assist my people, the remnant of Jacob, and also as many of the house of Israel as shall come, that they may build a city, which shall be called the New Jerusalem.

24 And then shall they assist my people that they may be gathered in, who are scattered upon all the face of the land, in unto the New Jerusalem.

25 And then shall the power of heaven come down among them; and I also will be in the midst.

26 And then shall the work of the Father commence at that day, even when this gospel shall be preached among the remnant of this people. Verily I say unto you, at that day shall the work of the Father commence among all the dispersed of my people, yea, even the tribes which have been lost, which the Father hath led away out of Jerusalem.

27 Yea, the work shall commence among all the dispersed of my people, with the Father to prepare the way whereby they may come unto me, that they may call on the Father in my name.

28 Yea, and then shall the work commence, with the Father among all nations in preparing the way whereby his people may be gathered home to the land of their inheritance.

29 And they shall go out from all nations; and they shall not go out in haste, nor go by flight, for I will go before them, saith the Father, and I will be their rearward.

 

[Mudda]

Luke 21:24
24 And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.

In your opinion, what does the phrase "times of the Gentiles be fulfilled" refer to?

Until hitler comes along.