Thursday Poll in Ohio

[007]

Well that is your right to think that I don,t agree but i respect you view.

You don't agree because you're a socialist also, which makes you as big a piece of rat shit as obama in my opinion.

America was built on capitalism, and that's the only way we'll ever survive. We don't need any of your country killing, income redistribution, robin hood socialist bull shit here. We don't want to turn out like Greece, or Spain, or those fucking LUNATIC moron French. You keep it. That's why we kicked your asses out of here centuries ago. The kenyan needs his ass kicked to the curb same as we kicked your asses.

America wasn't built on capitalism. If you didn't suck the ass of the dead body of Ayn Rand, you'd know that our founders understood that complete laissez faire led to cronyism, i.e. a government controlled by the most monied, whose only interest was their personal wealth. Too bad the Tea Baggers are too fucking stupid to know the real issues of the Boston Tea Party. Too bad they don't know the founders fear of limited liability corporations and their power to corrupt societies.

Sorry, bubble head, but yes, America WAS and still DOES survive on CAPITALISM.

Now tell me how SOCIALISM has made GREECE A GREAT NATION, and how that is what AMERICA NEEDS.

Take your steaming pile of pig shit stories somewhere else ya dick nosed ass clown.

 

[007]

Here's why you're a fucking retard. You tend to think in extremes, when a balance is the best objective. To fucking morons like you, any social investment is socialism and only complete economic and social darwinism will work. That's so fucking idiotic, but unfortunately it works for you and your ilk of ignorance.

Bull shit, jerk off. NO ONE, has single handedly done MORE DAMAGE to this nation than OBAMA. You just have your partisan hack head buried so far up his ass that you're suffering from lack of oxygen, hence why you talk like a fucking MORON.

You're a clueless jack off here spreading LOVE OBAMA bull shit and we all know it. Go beat off on your I love obama poster and STFU idiot.

You are one dumb motherfucker. The bottom line is trickle down is the greatest scam tossed upon the American people. The bottom line is trickle down was tried twice and failed. In eight years of Bush, private sector jobs was lower. His policy didn't create a single private sector job.

Are you really this fucking stupid? Perhaps you ought to get a clue before arguing with those who know you're full of shit.

So this is why no one else engages you aye? You're a just a "I LOVE COMMUNISM" kind of guy.

Fuck off, you filthy POS, retarded, obama ass kissing COMMIE FUCK.

 

[BluePhantom]

I do not see the desire for america to be dragged down at all. I don,t think thing are that dismal in the uk . I want america to do well. I think neither mitt romney or barack obama would ever drag america down. Their both good men that want the best for their country.

I would agree that they both think that their way is the best way. But I look at Obama and he is so obviously trying to lead us down a path of socialism that I have to give him a one finger salute and tell him to piss off. I am convinced the HE thinks that's what's best for the nation, but I am the majority of Americans disagree (at least I hope they do)

I am a liberal so i agree with some of obama views of support for a balanced budget of cutting the debt but not cutting to fast.

Obama doesn't believe in a balanced budget. He believes in no budget. The Democrats have not passed a budget in years. Obama's last budget proposal was rejected unanimously by both Republicans and Democrats. The guy has jacked our deficeit more than any other President in the history of our nation. Under Bush our debt was coming out our ears. Under Obama it's coming out our ears, eyes, nose, ass, and pores.

Did you vote for Bush? Did Bush and his people claim that deficits don't matter, if we can build our economy? Did Bush create a net single private sector job in his eight years? Did his trickle down work? No, because it's based on the stupid premise that giving the wealthy tax cuts on income works better than a tax policy that makes them wealthier by investing in and growing businesses.

Ahhh I see my favorite DICK has come to play. Deficits don't matter so long as the petrodollar is secured. But in order to secure the petrodollar it means going to war. That's why we went into Iraq and if Iran doesn't knock off the bullshit that's probably why we will have to go in there too.

No president creates private sector jobs. Not Bush, not Obama, not Milliard fucking Fillmore. They can create an enviroment conducive to economic growth and the expansion of business however. Bush did. From 2000-2006 when he had a GOP congress his unemployment rate was lower than Clinton's. Feel free to look it up. When the Democrats took over Congress in 2007 everything tanked and we have seen no recovery at all under Democratic leadership.

 

[decker]

Well that is your right to think that I don,t agree but i respect you view.

You don't agree because you're a socialist also, which makes you as big a piece of rat shit as obama in my opinion.

America was built on capitalism, and that's the only way we'll ever survive. We don't need any of your country killing, income redistribution, robin hood socialist bull shit here. We don't want to turn out like Greece, or Spain, or those fucking LUNATIC moron French. You keep it. That's why we kicked your asses out of here centuries ago. The kenyan needs his ass kicked to the curb same as we kicked your asses.

America wasn't built on capitalism. If you didn't suck the ass of the dead body of Ayn Rand, you'd know that our founders understood that complete laissez faire led to cronyism, i.e. a government controlled by the most monied, whose only interest was their personal wealth. Too bad the Tea Baggers are too fucking stupid to know the real issues of the Boston Tea Party. Too bad they don't know the founders fear of limited liability corporations and their power to corrupt societies.

well that is true but president bush did try to improve amount of debt although did not work out. Both president bush and president obama struggled to control the debt. It always going to be issue and just cutting never sorts it out. You need a balanced approch to save money.

 

[Dick Tuck]

I would agree that they both think that their way is the best way. But I look at Obama and he is so obviously trying to lead us down a path of socialism that I have to give him a one finger salute and tell him to piss off. I am convinced the HE thinks that's what's best for the nation, but I am the majority of Americans disagree (at least I hope they do)



Obama doesn't believe in a balanced budget. He believes in no budget. The Democrats have not passed a budget in years. Obama's last budget proposal was rejected unanimously by both Republicans and Democrats. The guy has jacked our deficeit more than any other President in the history of our nation. Under Bush our debt was coming out our ears. Under Obama it's coming out our ears, eyes, nose, ass, and pores.

well i do think he wants a balanced budget. But i will admit that he did not work enough with conservatives in congress to make thing happen. Bill clinton when dealing with conservatives was able to find a grand baragin deal with both newt and bob dole. But obama was not willing for me to do hard yards during debt celing crisis with john bohenir. Although i would argue conservatives were not that helpful during debt celing crisis.

I think both sides though have been at fault in congress of not being able to compromise more when trying to reach a a balanced budget.

I am not sure he wants to turn america into socalist nation although i respect his like for goverment can seem like that.

I think america still divided politically in their views but i think that romney has the edge in this election as unemployment been slow to improve under obama. So people will naturally in any election in any country turn to someone else.

Clinton did that because of the GOP wave of 1994 (I think that was the year) and the Contract With America. He had no choice. Republicans owned Congress. Prior to that he was pretty extreme liberal and then he decided to play ball. The exact same thing happened with Obama and the GOP tidal wave of 2010. Only Obama didn't play ball like Clinton did...perhaps because Democrats still held the Senate. As far as compromise....no I think you misunderstand. The 2010 GOP tidal wave happened because the people were furious with what Obama and the Democrats had done. They wanted it stopped. They were put into power NOT to compromise.

It was a Clinton goal in 1992 to reduce the deficit. It was a Clinton goal in 1992 to create a welfare to work policy.

The 2010 tidal wave was based on changing the coach who was improving the situation, but not fast enough. The fact is that Obama's policies have improved the economy. The fact is that the Romney plan is more of the same supply side bullshit that we've seen fail. Obama is totally correct that our best growth path is to focus on improving the lot of the middle class, and providing more opportunity to reach that rung. Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, and even Warren Buffet didn't grow up in some housing project. They were the sons of the middle class.

Romney? Fortunate son.

 

[Dick Tuck]

You don't agree because you're a socialist also, which makes you as big a piece of rat shit as obama in my opinion.

America was built on capitalism, and that's the only way we'll ever survive. We don't need any of your country killing, income redistribution, robin hood socialist bull shit here. We don't want to turn out like Greece, or Spain, or those fucking LUNATIC moron French. You keep it. That's why we kicked your asses out of here centuries ago. The kenyan needs his ass kicked to the curb same as we kicked your asses.

America wasn't built on capitalism. If you didn't suck the ass of the dead body of Ayn Rand, you'd know that our founders understood that complete laissez faire led to cronyism, i.e. a government controlled by the most monied, whose only interest was their personal wealth. Too bad the Tea Baggers are too fucking stupid to know the real issues of the Boston Tea Party. Too bad they don't know the founders fear of limited liability corporations and their power to corrupt societies.

well that is true but president bush did try to improve amount of debt although did not work out. Both president bush and president obama struggled to control the debt. It always going to be issue and just cutting never sorts it out. You need a balanced approch to save money.

Obama wasn't given the choice. If you look at the tools that Ronnie Reagan and George Bush used, i.e. grow the grow the government to reduce unemployment, Obama didn't have that option. The fact remains that under Obama, private sector employment grew and public sector employment dropped. Under Bush, private sector employment dropped and public sector employment grew.

Why wasn't Obama given the same tool to keep teachers, police, firefighters, etc. in their jobs? Easy, because the GOP stated they wouldn't do a fucking thing to help unemployment, because those American hating scumbags wanted Obama to be a one termer more than they wanted help the American people.

Who the fuck is such a dickhole that they'll vote GOP?

 

[BluePhantom]

The 2010 tidal wave was based on changing the coach who was improving the situation, but not fast enough. The fact is that Obama's policies have improved the economy.

Yeah things were going so well under Democratic control that the nation couldn't wait to toss them out on their collective asses. And Obama's policies haven't done shit to improve the economy. GDP growth is slowing, job growth is slowing. The economy is slowing to a frinding halt...unless you are on food stamps like a record number of people in this nation. Then all is right with the world.

 

[BluePhantom]

If you look at the tools that Ronnie Reagan and George Bush used, i.e. grow the grow the government to reduce unemployment, Obama didn't have that option.

Reagan and Bush grew government to reduce unemployment?!?!?!? BAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

 

[decker]

America wasn't built on capitalism. If you didn't suck the ass of the dead body of Ayn Rand, you'd know that our founders understood that complete laissez faire led to cronyism, i.e. a government controlled by the most monied, whose only interest was their personal wealth. Too bad the Tea Baggers are too fucking stupid to know the real issues of the Boston Tea Party. Too bad they don't know the founders fear of limited liability corporations and their power to corrupt societies.

well that is true but president bush did try to improve amount of debt although did not work out. Both president bush and president obama struggled to control the debt. It always going to be issue and just cutting never sorts it out. You need a balanced approch to save money.

Obama wasn't given the choice. If you look at the tools that Ronnie Reagan and George Bush used, i.e. grow the grow the government to reduce unemployment, Obama didn't have that option. The fact remains that under Obama, private sector employment grew and public sector employment dropped. Under Bush, private sector employment dropped and public sector employment grew.

Why wasn't Obama given the same tool to keep teachers, police, firefighters, etc. in their jobs? Easy, because the GOP stated they wouldn't do a fucking thing to help unemployment, because those American hating scumbags wanted Obama to be a one termer more than they wanted help the American people.

Who the fuck is such a dickhole that they'll vote GOP?

i don,t think people are dickholes because they vote gop. same as those who vote for dems. They just have their beliefs that all.

I think all presidents like bush and obama try their best to improve jobs. But congress to me is never helpful from either side in terms of making things happen.

 

[Dick Tuck]

You don't agree because you're a socialist also, which makes you as big a piece of rat shit as obama in my opinion.

America was built on capitalism, and that's the only way we'll ever survive. We don't need any of your country killing, income redistribution, robin hood socialist bull shit here. We don't want to turn out like Greece, or Spain, or those fucking LUNATIC moron French. You keep it. That's why we kicked your asses out of here centuries ago. The kenyan needs his ass kicked to the curb same as we kicked your asses.

America wasn't built on capitalism. If you didn't suck the ass of the dead body of Ayn Rand, you'd know that our founders understood that complete laissez faire led to cronyism, i.e. a government controlled by the most monied, whose only interest was their personal wealth. Too bad the Tea Baggers are too fucking stupid to know the real issues of the Boston Tea Party. Too bad they don't know the founders fear of limited liability corporations and their power to corrupt societies.

Sorry, bubble head, but yes, America WAS and still DOES survive on CAPITALISM.

Now tell me how SOCIALISM has made GREECE A GREAT NATION, and how that is what AMERICA NEEDS.

Take your steaming pile of pig shit stories somewhere else ya dick nosed ass clown.

You really are a fucking simpleton. Tell me how American capitalism held the trust of promising people's investments, for their future makes sense.

Now where do you find me supporting the Greece or Spain versions of balance? You don't, because you're constructing childish strawmen.

I like the idea of things like a tax credit for providing employee benefits like 401Ks and good health insurance. There's still that balance that you're too fucking stupid to understand, that combine capitalism and social good. You ignorant fuck still is stupid enough to believe that these tax abatements are a good thing, if it reduces the the maximum tax liability. But then again, you're stupid enough to believe that American corporations pay a higher effective tax than the rest of the first world. You ought to vote for Romney. It fits well with your childish outlook.

 

[Dick Tuck]

well that is true but president bush did try to improve amount of debt although did not work out. Both president bush and president obama struggled to control the debt. It always going to be issue and just cutting never sorts it out. You need a balanced approch to save money.

Obama wasn't given the choice. If you look at the tools that Ronnie Reagan and George Bush used, i.e. grow the grow the government to reduce unemployment, Obama didn't have that option. The fact remains that under Obama, private sector employment grew and public sector employment dropped. Under Bush, private sector employment dropped and public sector employment grew.

Why wasn't Obama given the same tool to keep teachers, police, firefighters, etc. in their jobs? Easy, because the GOP stated they wouldn't do a fucking thing to help unemployment, because those American hating scumbags wanted Obama to be a one termer more than they wanted help the American people.

Who the fuck is such a dickhole that they'll vote GOP?

i don,t think people are dickholes because they vote gop. same as those who vote for dems. They just have their beliefs that all.

I think all presidents like bush and obama try their best to improve jobs. But congress to me is never helpful from either side in terms of making things happen.

I'm talking about the here and now. Obama's stimulus, wasn't as much as I'd have liked, but it was a game changer. Obama's use of TARP to keep our auto industry afloat was a game changer. It doesn't really matter to me that Obama didn't achieve as much as he (and I) would have wanted, but I believe he did a great job in turning our economy around.

The fact remains that if Obama were given the same funding as Bush and Reagan, to grow government, especially with keeping teachers employed, we'd be better off still. But if Obama did half as much of government growth as Reagan, he'd be called a socialist and Reagan would still be a god to the right wing.

 

[gallantwarrior]

Hey decker.... FUCK OBAMA, he's a socialist piece of rat shit and hates America.

ok... mmm b'bye.

Here's why you're a fucking retard. You tend to think in extremes, when a balance is the best objective. To fucking morons like you, any social investment is socialism and only complete economic and social darwinism will work. That's so fucking idiotic, but unfortunately it works for you and your ilk of ignorance.

It worked very well for the first 100 odd years of our nation, too. It made us the most productive, wealthiest nation in the world, until the freakin' socialists started reinventing the country so they could feel all good about what great, wunnerfool do-goodies they are.

 

[Dick Tuck]

If you look at the tools that Ronnie Reagan and George Bush used, i.e. grow the grow the government to reduce unemployment, Obama didn't have that option.

Reagan and Bush grew government to reduce unemployment?!?!?!? BAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Go run your own numbers. Go to BLS, and look at private sector growth. Those are facts. Look at the job growth, without government jobs, between 1981-1989 and 2001-2009. The fact is that Bush hasn't created a private sector net job, and Obama kicks their ass.

 

[gallantwarrior]

Well that is your right to think that I don,t agree but i respect you view.

You don't agree because you're a socialist also, which makes you as big a piece of rat shit as obama in my opinion.

America was built on capitalism, and that's the only way we'll ever survive. We don't need any of your country killing, income redistribution, robin hood socialist bull shit here. We don't want to turn out like Greece, or Spain, or those fucking LUNATIC moron French. You keep it. That's why we kicked your asses out of here centuries ago. The kenyan needs his ass kicked to the curb same as we kicked your asses.

Well if your going to get personal little point engaging with you. I am a not a rat shit or a socalist but again seems pretty pointless engaging in debate with you if you going to be abusive.

Junior, I'm going to point out that you are the one who decided to jump into a forum to discuss our politics. If you're going to get all butt hurt every time someone gets in your grill, you might want to consider another pastime.

 

[gallantwarrior]

You don't agree because you're a socialist also, which makes you as big a piece of rat shit as obama in my opinion.

America was built on capitalism, and that's the only way we'll ever survive. We don't need any of your country killing, income redistribution, robin hood socialist bull shit here. We don't want to turn out like Greece, or Spain, or those fucking LUNATIC moron French. You keep it. That's why we kicked your asses out of here centuries ago. The kenyan needs his ass kicked to the curb same as we kicked your asses.

America wasn't built on capitalism. If you didn't suck the ass of the dead body of Ayn Rand, you'd know that our founders understood that complete laissez faire led to cronyism, i.e. a government controlled by the most monied, whose only interest was their personal wealth. Too bad the Tea Baggers are too fucking stupid to know the real issues of the Boston Tea Party. Too bad they don't know the founders fear of limited liability corporations and their power to corrupt societies.

well that is true but president bush did try to improve amount of debt although did not work out. Both president bush and president obama struggled to control the debt. It always going to be issue and just cutting never sorts it out. You need a balanced approch to save money.

The only struggle Obama has with the debt is how to create more, and how fast he can do it.

 

[Dick Tuck]

Hey decker.... FUCK OBAMA, he's a socialist piece of rat shit and hates America.

ok... mmm b'bye.

Here's why you're a fucking retard. You tend to think in extremes, when a balance is the best objective. To fucking morons like you, any social investment is socialism and only complete economic and social darwinism will work. That's so fucking idiotic, but unfortunately it works for you and your ilk of ignorance.

It worked very well for the first 100 odd years of our nation, too. It made us the most productive, wealthiest nation in the world, until the freakin' socialists started reinventing the country so they could feel all good about what great, wunnerfool do-goodies they are.

Reinventing? Nope, moron, they were building our country. They knew the threat from limited liability constructs, that led to the Boston Tea Party. They knew the threat from corporations and how they could own a Republic.

Funny how scumbags like you agree that slaves were not people, and now, as Roberts decided, a contractual construct are all of a sudden people. You are one fucking dickhole.

 

[Dick Tuck]

America wasn't built on capitalism. If you didn't suck the ass of the dead body of Ayn Rand, you'd know that our founders understood that complete laissez faire led to cronyism, i.e. a government controlled by the most monied, whose only interest was their personal wealth. Too bad the Tea Baggers are too fucking stupid to know the real issues of the Boston Tea Party. Too bad they don't know the founders fear of limited liability corporations and their power to corrupt societies.

well that is true but president bush did try to improve amount of debt although did not work out. Both president bush and president obama struggled to control the debt. It always going to be issue and just cutting never sorts it out. You need a balanced approch to save money.

The only struggle Obama has with the debt is how to create more, and how fast he can do it.

Do you jerk up straight up in the air, and hope to swallow some sperm who want's to create a baby?

The fact is that Obama's growth in government in employment sort of sucks. All his growth has been in the private sector, the fucking socialist.

 

[candycorn]

Polling Center- 2012 Election Center - Elections & Politics from CNN.com

This shows a 6 point lead for Obama. The Democrats have a much better ground game that the GOP in Ohio. This is the state that will make the difference.

Wednesday morning, after the next debate, we should have a good feeling whether Obama or Willard will occupy the oval office in January.

well i am not too sure. even if obama wins ohio which is no certaintly , if he fails to win michigan or wiscosin which are usual locked in blue states then he chances are over.

I am feeing pretty negative about whole thing but hope debate on tuesday can change president hopes.

Obama will win MI and WI.

 

[candycorn]

Well that is your right to think that I don,t agree but i respect you view.

You don't agree because you're a socialist also, which makes you as big a piece of rat shit as obama in my opinion.

America was built on capitalism, and that's the only way we'll ever survive. We don't need any of your country killing, income redistribution, robin hood socialist bull shit here. We don't want to turn out like Greece, or Spain, or those fucking LUNATIC moron French. You keep it. That's why we kicked your asses out of here centuries ago. The kenyan needs his ass kicked to the curb same as we kicked your asses.

But you call yourself 007, after fictional Brit.

I thought it was either his credit score or his IQ.

 

[NoNukes]

You don't agree because you're a socialist also, which makes you as big a piece of rat shit as obama in my opinion.

America was built on capitalism, and that's the only way we'll ever survive. We don't need any of your country killing, income redistribution, robin hood socialist bull shit here. We don't want to turn out like Greece, or Spain, or those fucking LUNATIC moron French. You keep it. That's why we kicked your asses out of here centuries ago. The kenyan needs his ass kicked to the curb same as we kicked your asses.

But you call yourself 007, after fictional Brit.

I thought it was either his credit score or his IQ.

Notice that he ran instead of answering me.