Thunderstorms

Discussion in 'Environment' started by IanC, Nov 25, 2012.

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    an important point. the oceans seldom get above 29C. there are negative feedbacks which dump excess heat, one of which is the thunderstorm. not in the climate computer models though.
     
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    The data doesn't fit the model?

    Time to change the model!

    /real scientist


    The data doesn't fit the model?

    Time to change the data!

    /AGW climatologist
     
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    The scientists are presenting the evidence that they find. They do so through peer reviewed journals. Just publish something that can easily be proven false, and see how long you last academically.

    Here you can review abstracts and even whole articles being published at present in peer reviewed journals than have bearing on the issue of AGW. A few will actually review a few of the articles, the majority here will go back to parroting talking points.
     
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    When observation doesn't mesh with the model's predictions it is time for them to scrap their crap hypothesis and start over from scratch....maybe dropping the magic properties ascribed to that trace gas this time which is what has been fouling up their models all along.
     
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    No they aren't. They are presenting the output of models which doesn't match observations out in the real world. They present this bilge as if it were real data and you guys regurgitate it as if it were real data. It isn't. It is crap spewed from models which are operating on programming that includes fantasy physics.
     
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    They can't do that. They're too heavily emotionally and financially invested in AGW to admit it's bullshit.
     
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    Ohhh, it's purely financial daveman. L. Ron Hubbard said it best when he said "if you
    really want to become rich...found a religion". The cult of AGW bears every aspect of a religion, the deity-Gaia, high priests, the deity punishing man for his evil (storms etc.), inquisitions for the evil, etc. etc. etc.

    And underlying it all are the politicians and schemers trying to become mega rich by legislating a new energy system that is many times more expensive to produce and distribute.
     
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    ...and Al Gore-type "get out of carbon jail free" scams.
     
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    I've always wanted to know what a thunderstorm thinks about 1 degF more or less in surface temp.. Got a model for that??
     
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    Michael Mann still has a job, doesn't he? Phil Jones still has a job, doesn't he?

    Case closed.
     

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