Three Exculpatory Facts the MSM Continues to Overlook in the Arizona Shootings

[NYcarbineer]

Read all the rest here: Three Exculpatory Facts the MSM Continues to Overlook in the Arizona Shootings Hot Air

Hey liberals! Don't let facts get in the way of a smear!

Keep going full tilt and let everyone know exactly who you are!

I hope you do!

FACT: None of this does anything to prevent future mass shootings

FACT: We are a Second Amendment society that relies on second amendment remedies

FACT: The fact that GOP hate rhetoric did not cause this tragedy does not excuse the hate rhetoric

FACT: You need to review the meaning of the word 'fact'.

You said perception was fact in your corruption thread.

Oh, btw, where's that NY Times link?

 

[Bfgrn]

Question for Lefties....What's the BIG FUCKING DIFFERENCE between these two maps....?

Palin's crosshairs map:

Democrats' bullseye map:

The Democratic map blogger John uses come from the Democratic Leadership Committee. It was basically an internal memo designed for election strategy. NO ONE has ever called out GOP counterparts for similar maps. Palins's map was from a national figure who ran for Vice President. The DLC targets STATES, not individual Democrats.

Sarah Palin's map was put on her Facebook page and she used gunsight crosshairs that target individual Democrats. Sarah Palin was criticized the day she put the irresponsible and dangerous map on her Facebook page, her reply on Twitter was:

Commonsense Conservatives & lovers
of America: "Don't Retreat, Instead -
RELOAD!" Pls see my Facebook page.
9:31 AM Mar 23rd, 2010

SarahPalinUSA

“Sarah Palin has the crosshairs of a gun sight over our district and when people do that, they’ve gotta realize there are consequences to that action.”
Rep. Gabrielle Giffords

 

[ScreamingEagle]

Question for Lefties....What's the BIG FUCKING DIFFERENCE between these two maps....?

Palin's crosshairs map:

Democrats' bullseye map:

The Democratic map blogger John uses come from the Democratic Leadership Committee. It was basically an internal memo designed for election strategy. NO ONE has ever called out GOP counterparts for similar maps. Palins's map was from a national figure who ran for Vice President. The DLC targets STATES, not individual Democrats.

Sarah Palin's map was put on her Facebook page and she used gunsight crosshairs that target individual Democrats. Sarah Palin was criticized the day she put the irresponsible and dangerous map on her Facebook page, her reply on Twitter was:

Commonsense Conservatives & lovers
of America: "Don't Retreat, Instead -
RELOAD!" Pls see my Facebook page.
9:31 AM Mar 23rd, 2010

SarahPalinUSA

“Sarah Palin has the crosshairs of a gun sight over our district and when people do that, they’ve gotta realize there are consequences to that action.”
Rep. Gabrielle Giffords

So of course you're saying Palin's political words and pictures caused the insane shooter to KILL people in Tucson.....unbelievable...

But how do you know whether it was Palin's words or Gifford's words that set off the shooter.....? You don't...

Do you even know what INSANE means....?

(probably not...because leftie arguments are all pretty much insane....)

 

[Ravi]

Oh, btw, where's that NY Times link?

 

[Ravi]

Question for Lefties....What's the BIG FUCKING DIFFERENCE between these two maps....?

Palin's crosshairs map:

Democrats' bullseye map:

I don't understand something and maybe you can explain it to me. Whenever I see someone post the Palin map on this message board, they leave off the list of Democrats she has put her crosshairs on. Here is the actual map as posted on Palin's website before she took it down.

 

[Neotrotsky]

Question for Lefties....What's the BIG FUCKING DIFFERENCE between these two maps....?

Palin's crosshairs map:


Democrats' bullseye map:

The Democratic map blogger John uses come from the Democratic Leadership Committee. It was basically an internal memo designed for election strategy. NO ONE has ever called out GOP counterparts for similar maps. Palins's map was from a national figure who ran for Vice President. The DLC targets STATES, not individual Democrats.

Sarah Palin's map was put on her Facebook page and she used gunsight crosshairs that target individual Democrats. Sarah Palin was criticized the day she put the irresponsible and dangerous map on her Facebook page, her reply on Twitter was:

Commonsense Conservatives & lovers
of America: "Don't Retreat, Instead -
RELOAD!" Pls see my Facebook page.
9:31 AM Mar 23rd, 2010

SarahPalinUSA

“Sarah Palin has the crosshairs of a gun sight over our district and when people do that, they’ve gotta realize there are consequences to that action.”
Rep. Gabrielle Giffords

So of course you're saying Palin's political words and pictures caused the insane shooter to KILL people in Tucson.....unbelievable...

But how do you know whether it was Palin's words or Gifford's words that set off the shooter.....? You don't...

Do you even know what INSANE means....?

(probably not...because leftie arguments are all pretty much insane....)

Truth is the worst enemy of the Left, speaking of ...

Did you hear that the shooter was a "truther" and hated Bush ?

 

[WillowTree]

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/10/opinion/10mon1.html?_r=1&scp=1&sq=Is it legitimate&st=Search






It is facile and mistaken to attribute this particular madman’s act directly to Republicans or Tea Party members. But it is legitimate to hold Republicans and particularly their most virulent supporters in the media responsible for the gale of anger that has produced the vast majority of these threats, setting the nation on edge. Many on the right have exploited the arguments of division, reaping political power by demonizing immigrants, or welfare recipients, or bureaucrats. They seem to have persuaded many Americans that the government is not just misguided, but the enemy of the people






But but but but but.

 

[WillowTree]

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/10/o...sq=Paul Krugman on Arizona shooting&st=Search

Where’s that toxic rhetoric coming from? Let’s not make a false pretense of balance: it’s coming, overwhelmingly, from the right. It’s hard to imagine a Democratic member of Congress urging constituents to be “armed and dangerous” without being ostracized; but Representative Michele Bachmann, who did just that, is a rising star in the G.O.P.

 

[Bfgrn]

Question for Lefties....What's the BIG FUCKING DIFFERENCE between these two maps....?

Palin's crosshairs map:

Democrats' bullseye map:

The Democratic map blogger John uses come from the Democratic Leadership Committee. It was basically an internal memo designed for election strategy. NO ONE has ever called out GOP counterparts for similar maps. Palins's map was from a national figure who ran for Vice President. The DLC targets STATES, not individual Democrats.

Sarah Palin's map was put on her Facebook page and she used gunsight crosshairs that target individual Democrats. Sarah Palin was criticized the day she put the irresponsible and dangerous map on her Facebook page, her reply on Twitter was:

Commonsense Conservatives & lovers
of America: "Don't Retreat, Instead -
RELOAD!" Pls see my Facebook page.
9:31 AM Mar 23rd, 2010

SarahPalinUSA

“Sarah Palin has the crosshairs of a gun sight over our district and when people do that, they’ve gotta realize there are consequences to that action.”
Rep. Gabrielle Giffords

So of course you're saying Palin's political words and pictures caused the insane shooter to KILL people in Tucson.....unbelievable...

But how do you know whether it was Palin's words or Gifford's words that set off the shooter.....? You don't...

Do you even know what INSANE means....?

(probably not...because leftie arguments are all pretty much insane....)

Did I SAY Palin's political words and pictures caused the insane shooter to KILL people in Tucson?

I said AT THE TIME Palin put her map on her website almost the same thing Rep. Gabrielle Giffords said. It was irresponsible and dangerous.

It STILL IS...

WHY did Sarah Palin scrub the map from website immediately after the shooting?

 

[teapartysamurai]

What you continue to overlook is that everyone knows what Sarah Palin is and they have since McCain disagreed with her hatred in that townhall.

She is a dumb tool.

"Everyone knows."

That is the defense of every bigot alive.

"Everyone knows" blacks have rhythm.

"Everyone knows" whites are prejudiced.

"Everyone knows" Bush did 9/11.

I mean "everyone knows" is what you say when you don't have anything but your closed mind to back you up.

 

[teapartysamurai]

Guilty conscience? You guys remind me of the poor defense attorney tasked with defending the indefensible. It is not a specific single thing, it is an atmosphere of anti-government and anti Obama that is the cause of so much renewed violence and hatred of government. You libertarians are even worse than conservatives when it comes to this nonsense. You live in a fantasyland in which because you are doing OK everything is fine with the world - with no consideration of the whys or the structure that supports you.

"As the president said in Tucson, we lack not just civil discourse, but honest discourse. Much of last week’s televised bloviation was dishonest, dedicated to the pious, feel-good sentiment that both sides are equally culpable for the rage of the past two years. To construct this false equivalency, every left-leaning Web site and Democratic politician’s record was dutifully culled for incendiary invective. If that’s the standard, then both sides are equally at fault — rhetoric can indeed be as violent on the left as on the right.

But that sidesteps the issue. This isn’t about angry blog posts or verbal fisticuffs. Since Obama’s ascension, we’ve seen repeated incidents of political violence. Just a short list would include the 2009 killing of three Pittsburgh police officers by a neo-Nazi Obama-hater; last year’s murder-suicide kamikaze attack on an I.R.S. office in Austin, Tex.; and the California police shootout with an assailant plotting to attack an obscure liberal foundation obsessively vilified by Beck." http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/16/opinion/16rich.html?_r=1&scp=1&sq=frank rich&st=Search

"The anti-tax arguments of conservatives and libertarians also rely heavily on denying the connection between the people and their government. They do not want us to see public money as “our” money being spent for “our” benefit. Grover Norquist, for instance, rankles when people refer to the government as “we.” When the interviewer Terry Gross pointed out to him that “The Bush tax cuts would cost us about $1.1 trillion over the next 10 years, and we're going to be hundreds of billions of dollars in debt.” He responded by saying: “Well, there's a very interesting use of the word 'we.' Every time you use the word 'we,' you meant the government, and I tend to use the word 'we' to mean the American people and to speak of the government as the government.” " Government is Good - Taxes are Good

"That is why they equate Sean Hannity with Keith Olbermann. That is why most celebrate an ever loosening of gun control laws; that is why they act as if “entitlement” programs are socialistic; that is why they campaign militantly against financial and corporate regulation in the name of a pure market that has never existed anywhere; that is why they speak in the name of a single, bellicose God for all Americans rather than a society of deep pluralism; that is why they resist unemployment insurance for the lower middle class; and that is why they push the filibuster envelope to the most extreme degree in the history of the country." <a href="http://contemporarycondition.blogspot.com/2011/01/radical-right-extreme-right-and.html">Read article here.</a>

Because I'm not interested in slogging through your cut and paste I'll simply address the idea of a "guilty conscience."

Liberals always were masters of projection.

And since it was them slogging through the blood since the first bullet was shot to try and make political points, projecting the idea of a guilty conscience is pretty obvious.

 

[teapartysamurai]

Barack Obama has survived a multi-year firestorm of anti-Obama media attacks on him. Why? Because he has the strength and brains and character to withstand it.

Sarah Palin is going down in flames in the same sort of firestorm from the anti-Palin media. Why? Because she doesn't have the strength and brains and character to withstand it.

Only the strong survive and no one is getting a pass. Quit whining about it.

If Sarah Palin is the one going down in flames, explain why poll after poll shows the attack by Democrats DIDN'T work and the public doesn't blame Palin or conservatives for the attack.

CNN has taken now to polls of "adults" instead of likely voters simply to claim public opinion has slightly shifted. That's the act of desperation on the part of the left.

The only one going down in flames is this shameless smear by the left.

 

[Neotrotsky]

The Democratic map blogger John uses come from the Democratic Leadership Committee. It was basically an internal memo designed for election strategy. NO ONE has ever called out GOP counterparts for similar maps. Palins's map was from a national figure who ran for Vice President. The DLC targets STATES, not individual Democrats.

Sarah Palin's map was put on her Facebook page and she used gunsight crosshairs that target individual Democrats. Sarah Palin was criticized the day she put the irresponsible and dangerous map on her Facebook page, her reply on Twitter was:

Commonsense Conservatives & lovers
of America: "Don't Retreat, Instead -
RELOAD!" Pls see my Facebook page.
9:31 AM Mar 23rd, 2010

SarahPalinUSA

&#8220;Sarah Palin has the crosshairs of a gun sight over our district and when people do that, they&#8217;ve gotta realize there are consequences to that action.&#8221;
Rep. Gabrielle Giffords

So of course you're saying Palin's political words and pictures caused the insane shooter to KILL people in Tucson.....unbelievable...

But how do you know whether it was Palin's words or Gifford's words that set off the shooter.....? You don't...

Do you even know what INSANE means....?

(probably not...because leftie arguments are all pretty much insane....)

Did I SAY Palin's political words and pictures caused the insane shooter to KILL people in Tucson?

I said AT THE TIME Palin put her map on her website almost the same thing Rep. Gabrielle Giffords said. It was irresponsible and dangerous.

It STILL IS...

WHY did Sarah Palin scrub the map from website immediately after the shooting?

Probably for the same reason Daily Kos "scrubbed" their site of using targets against Gifford and postings of people saying she's now "dead to me"

Is Daily Kos involved in the AZ shootings?

 

[teapartysamurai]

Three Exculpatory Facts the MSM Continues to Overlook in the Arizona Shootings

Just admit it.

This whole thread was an excuse so you could use the word "Exculpatory"

Thinking liberals and lefties agree with you, incidently.

The source of the vitriol is BIPARTISAN.

I know you cannot admit that we agree with you, but really, that's not our problem, that's your problem.

Was that supposed to make sense?????

 

[teapartysamurai]

Three Exculpatory Facts the MSM Continues to Overlook in the Arizona Shootings

Just admit it.

This whole thread was an excuse so you could use the word "Exculpatory"

Thinking liberals and lefties agree with you, incidently.

The source of the vitriol is BIPARTISAN.

I know you cannot admit that we agree with you, but really, that's not our problem, that's your problem.

lol ...

It's certainly bipartisan but you will have no luck getting to the OP to own up to anything.

However, interestingly enough depending on how much stock you put in polls about half the country assigns some blame to the political and pundit rhetoric for the Arizona shooting.

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2011/images/01/17/rel1b.pdf

It's no wonder the Malkin's of the world are losing their Cheerios over this.

Oh, NOW I get it!

Now that the smear is not working, liberals are now trying to claim they didn't start this smear, that both right AND left went right at it smearing each other.

Sorry guys, but that lie doesn't fit the facts.

Palin didn't right off the bat say Obama caused the shooting. Lefties DID right off the bat say that Palin caused the shooting.

But you are going to claim it's equal because conservatives had the NERVE to fight back after being smeared!

Yeah how dare conservatives do that. They should have just shut up and allowed the left to smear them in peace.

Typical liberals!

 

[BlindBoo]

The Democratic map blogger John uses come from the Democratic Leadership Committee. It was basically an internal memo designed for election strategy. NO ONE has ever called out GOP counterparts for similar maps. Palins's map was from a national figure who ran for Vice President. The DLC targets STATES, not individual Democrats.

Sarah Palin's map was put on her Facebook page and she used gunsight crosshairs that target individual Democrats. Sarah Palin was criticized the day she put the irresponsible and dangerous map on her Facebook page, her reply on Twitter was:

Commonsense Conservatives & lovers
of America: "Don't Retreat, Instead -
RELOAD!" Pls see my Facebook page.
9:31 AM Mar 23rd, 2010

SarahPalinUSA

&#8220;Sarah Palin has the crosshairs of a gun sight over our district and when people do that, they&#8217;ve gotta realize there are consequences to that action.&#8221;
Rep. Gabrielle Giffords

So of course you're saying Palin's political words and pictures caused the insane shooter to KILL people in Tucson.....unbelievable...

But how do you know whether it was Palin's words or Gifford's words that set off the shooter.....? You don't...

Do you even know what INSANE means....?

(probably not...because leftie arguments are all pretty much insane....)

Did I SAY Palin's political words and pictures caused the insane shooter to KILL people in Tucson?

I said AT THE TIME Palin put her map on her website almost the same thing Rep. Gabrielle Giffords said. It was irresponsible and dangerous.

It STILL IS...

WHY did Sarah Palin scrub the map from website immediately after the shooting?

No of course not. The proof is right there on the screen. LOL. Looks like you answered the question about the differences between the maps. Their response is to demonize you, not rebut the points made.

 

[Bfgrn]

So of course you're saying Palin's political words and pictures caused the insane shooter to KILL people in Tucson.....unbelievable...

But how do you know whether it was Palin's words or Gifford's words that set off the shooter.....? You don't...

Do you even know what INSANE means....?

(probably not...because leftie arguments are all pretty much insane....)

Did I SAY Palin's political words and pictures caused the insane shooter to KILL people in Tucson?

I said AT THE TIME Palin put her map on her website almost the same thing Rep. Gabrielle Giffords said. It was irresponsible and dangerous.

It STILL IS...

WHY did Sarah Palin scrub the map from website immediately after the shooting?

Probably for the same reason Daily Kos "scrubbed" their site of using targets against Gifford and postings of people saying she's now "dead to me"

Is Daily Kos involved in the AZ shootings?

Are you for real? Now you are equating a national political figure who ran for Vice President of the United States of America, with a BLOGGER who calls himself Boy Blue?

 

[Neotrotsky]

Did I SAY Palin's political words and pictures caused the insane shooter to KILL people in Tucson?

I said AT THE TIME Palin put her map on her website almost the same thing Rep. Gabrielle Giffords said. It was irresponsible and dangerous.

It STILL IS...

WHY did Sarah Palin scrub the map from website immediately after the shooting?

Probably for the same reason Daily Kos "scrubbed" their site of using targets against Gifford and postings of people saying she's now "dead to me"

Is Daily Kos involved in the AZ shootings?

Are you for real? Now you are equating a national political figure who ran for Vice President of the United States of America, with a BLOGGER who calls himself Boy Blue?

No silly

I am equating the "scrubbing" that you were so concerned about before

Of course, not that a radical Left wing group like Daily Kos does it, it does not seem to concern you?

Funny how that works....

 

[BlindBoo]

Just admit it.

This whole thread was an excuse so you could use the word "Exculpatory"

Thinking liberals and lefties agree with you, incidently.

The source of the vitriol is BIPARTISAN.

I know you cannot admit that we agree with you, but really, that's not our problem, that's your problem.

lol ...

It's certainly bipartisan but you will have no luck getting to the OP to own up to anything.

However, interestingly enough depending on how much stock you put in polls about half the country assigns some blame to the political and pundit rhetoric for the Arizona shooting.

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2011/images/01/17/rel1b.pdf

It's no wonder the Malkin's of the world are losing their Cheerios over this.

Oh, NOW I get it!

Now that the smear is not working, liberals are now trying to claim they didn't start this smear, that both right AND left went right at it smearing each other.

Sorry guys, but that lie doesn't fit the facts.

Palin didn't right off the bat say Obama caused the shooting. Lefties DID right off the bat say that Palin caused the shooting.

But you are going to claim it's equal because conservatives had the NERVE to fight back after being smeared!

Yeah how dare conservatives do that. They should have just shut up and allowed the left to smear them in peace.

Typical liberals!

Where are the quotes and what lefties said explicitly "Palin caused the shooting"? Or did they pull a Bush, and talk about the two (the shooting itself and then the heated rhetoric) in the same paragraph?

 

[Ravi]

Probably for the same reason Daily Kos "scrubbed" their site of using targets against Gifford and postings of people saying she's now "dead to me"

Is Daily Kos involved in the AZ shootings?

Are you for real? Now you are equating a national political figure who ran for Vice President of the United States of America, with a BLOGGER who calls himself Boy Blue?

No silly

I am equating the "scrubbing" that you were so concerned about before

Of course, not that a radical Left wing group like Daily Koz does it, it does not seem to concern you?

Funny how that works....

Thanks for admitting that Palin is a radical rightwing loon.