Thought Iran Was 5-10 Years From A Bomb

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    Well not really, I didn't believe it. Seems now others won't either, now the UN is saying a year to a year and a half. I love the headline, I don't know why I bothered to read it, sounded more like Iran was making things difficult. My headline is better:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/16/w...3462c8a2ce886e&ei=5088&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss

     
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    I've never had a problem with Iran posessing a nuclear weapon. Lots of nations have nuclear weapons only one has been used offensively in human history. I don't have to clue you in on who it was. Nuclear weapons are a way of projecting military and technological strength. It's a signal of a nation's modernity, at least in terms of the government, if not the culture. Isreal has nukes. Iran likes living. Therefore, Isreal will not be bombed by Iran. Everyone needs to chill.
     
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    I prefer to take their past words and deeds as an example of what they will do with a nuke instead of imposing some cold-war era philosophy. MAD will not work with these people.
     
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    Oh really, you don't think that Iran would use a nuclear weapon? Seriously?

    All streams of Islam believe in a divine saviour, known as the Mahdi, who will appear at the End of Days. Mr Ahmadinejad and his cabinet have signed a "contract" pledging themselves to work for the return of the Mahdi. Iran's dominant "Twelver" sect believes this will be Mohammed ibn Hasan, regarded as the 12th Imam, or righteous descendant of the Prophet Mohammad. His return will be preceded by cosmic chaos, war and bloodshed. After a cataclysmic confrontation with evil and darkness, the Mahdi will lead the world to an era of universal peace. Ahmadinejad believes that these events are close at hand and that ordinary mortals can influence the divine timetable.

    During a speech before the U.N. in 2006, the president spoke in apocalyptic terms of Iran struggling against an evil "West that sought to promote state terrorism, impose the logic of the dark ages and divide the world into light and dark countries". The speech ended with an appeal to God to "hasten the emergence of your last repository, the Promised One, that perfect and pure human being, the one that will fill this world with justice and peace".

    In a video distributed by an Iranian web site in November '06, Ahmadinejad described how one of his Iranian colleagues had claimed to have seen a glow of light around the president as he began his speech to the U.N. "I felt it myself too," Ahmadinejad said. "I felt that all of a sudden the atmosphere changed there. And for 27-28 minutes all the leaders did not blink…It's not an exaggeration, because I was looking. They were astonished, as if a hand held them there and made them sit. It had opened their eyes and ears for the message of the Islamic Republic."

    There are more than a few experts who believe that President Ahmadinejad actually wishes for and seeks a clash with the West in the fervent belief that it would rekindle the spirit of the Islamic revolution and speed up the arrival of the Hidden Imam.

    As mayor of Tehran, he had city plans drawn up for the return of the 12th Imam. He has held this belief for a long time.

    “Our revolution’s main mission is to pave the way for the reappearance of the 12th Imam, the Mahdi.” - Mahmoud Ahmadinejad


    And yet you've "never had a problem with Iran posessing a nuclear weapon?" We're talking about religious zealots who truly believe in this stuff. They hate the Israelis and the West with a passion you and I will probably never know. Plain and simple, they believe that they are right and everyone else is wrong and deserving of death. Their death means little or nothing to them when it comes to their faith, hell, they're lining for those 77 virgins every day.

    I am sick and tired of the argument "But we have nukes and we're the only ones who have ever used them so it's okay if they have them." Guess what? Different circumstances, different time, get over it. I am also sick and tired of the "Well, Israel has nukes so it is okay if they have them too." Guess what? Israel isn't threatening to wipe those around them off of the face of the map.
     
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    If I where the nation of Iran I would totally want a A bomb because if I have one America would reward me instead of invade me. I would be like pakistan and could give bin laden a comfy home and other terrorist and not recognie elections or like china and i could horribly abuse people and sell tainted goods...if I don't have a bomb I'm just some punk to push around....and he will steal my lunch money
     
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    If you are going to quote, you really should quote all the pertinent sections, not just those that espouse whatever world view you are operating under.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/16/world/asia/16nuke.html?pagewanted=1&ei=5088&en=653462c8a2ce886e&ex=1352869200&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss
     
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    Then so should you, or did you miss the part where they have NO idea what Iran is up to?

    You know the next paragraph?

     
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    That is not accurate. It is not that we have no idea what they are doing, it is that we don't all that they may be doing. However, we do apparently know that
     
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    Which means nothing when in fact at any time they can spin them up and they can deny access to the inspectors. Or can you not read Standard english?
     
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    And at such time that they "spin them up and deny access to the inspectors," I am sure that will be the subject of another NYT article. No reason to get bent out of shape about shit that clearly has not happened.
     

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