Clementine
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Britain's looking at dropping the date to 20 weeks. Very interesting debate.
Cut abortion limit says new Women's Minister: 'Modern feminist' Miller wants 20 weeks not 24
Women's Minister Mrs Miller said medical advances means premature babies can be saved
Calls for reduction echoed by backbench Tory MP Nadine Dorries who proposed bill in 2008
Maria Miller: Cut abortion limit says new Women's Minister | Mail Online
My friend's daughter recently had a premature baby that was born at 20 weeks. All went well and baby is home now and doing fine. It is amazing what they can do and likely helps if a mother takes care of herself while pregnant.
If a woman doesn't want to get pregnant, then why the wait to end the pregnancy? I am especially confused about late term abortions when the reason stated is to save the mother's life. The way the birth of the baby is delayed while they kill it, it's actually harder on the woman than a quicker delivery and trying to save the baby. I just wish people would be honest about their motives. I recall Obama voting against saving babies born alive because it went against the mother's wishes. That doesn't jive with the claim that late terms were strictly to save the mother's life.
I think it's really traumatic for medical personnel to have to do late term abortions. Deliberately taking a life goes against everything they stand for and it's not fair to them to force them to perform such radical procedures.
What a blessing for your friend!
Regarding late term abortions: when George Tiller was alive he was performing late terms for reasons that would make your hair curl. Sebelius, yes that Sebelius even allowed George Tiller to have his own crematorium. He had a "gift shop". I have a lot of material on Tiller.
The man was a monster.
"There also exists a common misconception that late-term abortions are limited to medical emergencies.
Nothing could be further from the truth. From 1998 until 2000, only one out of the 1168 abortions that Tiller performed after viability was done during a medical emergency.
Upwards of 97% of his late-term patients weren't even from Kansas—they flew in from other states to have abortions that they had scheduled in advance. "
Only read this link if you have a very strong stomach. All data presented is backed up with links to the pdfs from the State of Kansas.
George Tiller: a Case Study
I don't think I can stomach it, at least not right now.
I just wish they could be honest about their reasons for encouraging this. I do realize that many want population control. Planned Parenthood was created in order to control the population of blacks. I think that is still it's number one goal. Well, if not the primary goal, at least that is what they actually accomplish.
I won't argue the rights of any woman to get an abortion, but there is no reason they can't have one within a reasonable amount of time and way before there is any chance of a baby being viable. If a baby cries when it's born, only a monster could set it in a linen closet to die.
The left always argues that if we don't pay for birth control and abortions, then we'd better be prepared to spend even more to raise the child. They have absolved women of all responsibility. You'd think these women are incapable of making good decisions, yet we are to respect their decision, however misguided, at any stage of the game.
We are supposed to tolerate other people's problems being dumped in our lap and yet not say anything about it or we're accused of pushing our beliefs on people.
I say do as you will, but when it's time to pay for your mistakes, you write the check. Sure, it's a hardship, but I think people are more careful when they know they will face consequences.
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