This Drudge Headline really tells the story of the latest polls

[teapartysamurai]

POLL: RACE TIGHT AS OBAMA EDGE NARROWS TO 2 PTS...

SWING STATE DAILY TRACKING: O 47%, R 45%...

CNN: OBAMA +6...

POLLED MORE DEMS?

ABCNEWSWASHPOST LIKELY VOTERS: O 49% R 48%...

... SURVEYED 33% DEMOCRAT, 23% REPUBLICAN

GALLUP FLASHBACK: MONDALE TOPS REAGAN...

WHICH POLLS WERE MOST ACCURATE IN '08?

DRUDGE REPORT 2012®

They are over sampling Democrats to get the Results they want.

They aren't doing this to show Obama ahead. They are doing this to convice Conservatives Obama is so ahead it's no use. They might as well stay home and not bother voting.

They are hoping to dispirit Romney supporters.

The liberal media will try any trick to try and get their guy over the finish line.

Remember they called Florida for Gore in 2000, with only 1% of the results in.

People got out of line waiting to vote for Bush, (in Florida) because they thought the election was over and it was no use.

They will try anything to keep you from voting.

Don't fall for usual tricks.

 

[ScienceRocks]

 

[candycorn]

POLL: RACE TIGHT AS OBAMA EDGE NARROWS TO 2 PTS...

SWING STATE DAILY TRACKING: O 47%, R 45%...

CNN: OBAMA +6...

POLLED MORE DEMS?

ABCNEWSWASHPOST LIKELY VOTERS: O 49% R 48%...

... SURVEYED 33% DEMOCRAT, 23% REPUBLICAN

GALLUP FLASHBACK: MONDALE TOPS REAGAN...

WHICH POLLS WERE MOST ACCURATE IN '08?

DRUDGE REPORT 2012®
They are over sampling Democrats to get the Results they want.
They aren't doing this to show Obama ahead. They are doing this to convice Conservatives Obama is so ahead it's no use. They might as well stay home and not bother voting.
They are hoping to dispirit Romney supporters.
The liberal media will try any trick to try and get their guy over the finish line.
Remember they called Florida for Gore in 2000, with only 1% of the results in.
People got out of line waiting to vote for Bush, (in Florida) because they thought the election was over and it was no use.
They will try anything to keep you from voting.
Don't fall for usual tricks.

Obama is going to win easily--5 million votes or so; 300-320 Electoral Votes. Book it. Hope you like your new sig line

 

[LadyGunSlinger]

I don't believe anyone can disparage Conservatives and Independents from voting this year with the stakes so high.. I think the base is beyond motivated. The Liberal Media are nothing but liars.. This may have worked before the new Media ruled the day, but no longer.. they've lost their hold on voters who can now turn to other resources for news, UNFILTERED AND FACTUAL.

 

[Staidhup]

One fact remains, conservatives get out and exercise their constitutional right to vote and liberals leave it up to everyone else.

 

[AceRothstein]

Yes, the pollsters are willing to stake their reputations and livelihood on incorrect poll numbers just to show Obama ahead.

 

[tinydancer]

POLL: RACE TIGHT AS OBAMA EDGE NARROWS TO 2 PTS...

SWING STATE DAILY TRACKING: O 47%, R 45%...

CNN: OBAMA +6...

POLLED MORE DEMS?

ABCNEWSWASHPOST LIKELY VOTERS: O 49% R 48%...

... SURVEYED 33% DEMOCRAT, 23% REPUBLICAN

GALLUP FLASHBACK: MONDALE TOPS REAGAN...

WHICH POLLS WERE MOST ACCURATE IN '08?

DRUDGE REPORT 2012®

They are over sampling Democrats to get the Results they want.

They aren't doing this to show Obama ahead. They are doing this to convice Conservatives Obama is so ahead it's no use. They might as well stay home and not bother voting.

They are hoping to dispirit Romney supporters.

The liberal media will try any trick to try and get their guy over the finish line.

Remember they called Florida for Gore in 2000, with only 1% of the results in.

People got out of line waiting to vote for Bush, (in Florida) because they thought the election was over and it was no use.

They will try anything to keep you from voting.

Don't fall for usual tricks.

Hey Sam check this out. I was just about to put up a new thread, but I'll throw it here. Next time some lib tries to tell any of us Rasmussen is full of shit, tell em to stick it where the sun don't shine.

From this article:

The List: Which presidential polls were most accurate?
Wednesday, November 5, 2008

Here is the list –

1T. Rasmussen (11/1-3)**

1T. Pew (10/29-11/1)**

3. YouGov/Polimetrix (10/18-11/1)

4. Harris Interactive (10/20-27)

5. GWU (Lake/Tarrance) (11/2-3)*

6T. Diageo/Hotline (10/31-11/2)*

6T. ARG (10/25-27)*

8T. CNN (10/30-11/1)

8T. Ipsos/McClatchy (10/30-11/1)

10. DailyKos.com (D)/Research 2000 (11/1-3)

11. AP/Yahoo/KN (10/17-27)

12. Democracy Corps (D) (10/30-11/2)

13. FOX (11/1-2)

14. Economist/YouGov (10/25-27)

15. IBD/TIPP (11/1-3)

16. NBC/WSJ (11/1-2)

17. ABC/Post (10/30-11/2)

18. Marist College (11/3)

19. CBS (10/31-11/2)

20. Gallup (10/31-11/2)

21. Reuters/ C-SPAN/ Zogby (10/31-11/3)

ETA: http://blog.chron.com/txpotomac/2008/11/the-list-which-presidential-polls-were-most-accurate/

22. CBS/Times (10/25-29)

23. Newsweek (10/22-23)

 

[tinydancer]

Checking the methodology of any poll now is crucial. We've seen many of them even poll "adults" as compared to "likely voters" as well as the continual oversampling of Democrats so they can get their blazing headlines.

 

[Article 15]

Ah, another right wing nut "let's kid ourselves" thread.

 

[jillian]

real clear politics average obama +3.1

unlike last week, no polls show romney tied or ahead. last week there were at least two.

gallup has president at+5

i saw rasmussen at +5 but that's not showing on RCP yet...

CNN Opinion Research at +6 for obama

RCP Avg

Obama 48.3
Romney 45.4

RealClearPolitics - Election 2012 - General Election: Romney vs. Obama

you're delusional... but then again, we knew that.

 

[The Rabbi]

Yes, the pollsters are willing to stake their reputations and livelihood on incorrect poll numbers just to show Obama ahead.

Which pollsters have been embarrassed out of the business for being wrong?

No, the press is in the tank for Obama. The polls are not accurate. And the reporting on them is less so. So is the "fact checking" that goes on.

 

[tinydancer]

Yes, the pollsters are willing to stake their reputations and livelihood on incorrect poll numbers just to show Obama ahead.

Yes.

Then not to look like complete assholes, by the third week in September you will see a tightening in the numbers with the polls that have super wide margins for Obama.

 

[Katzndogz]

Yes, the pollsters are willing to stake their reputations and livelihood on incorrect poll numbers just to show Obama ahead.

They always do so why should this election be any different. They did the same thing to show Carter ahead.

It isn't the polling that's wrong, it's the adjustments and manipulations where they go wrong. You never get to see the raw data. Polling pools are very small, sometimes no more than a few hundred. Then they are weighted.

When Schwarzeneggar was running against Cruz Bustamante an LA Time poll had Bustamonte ahead two to one. When he was crushed, the Times said that the fault belonged to the company doing the adjustments.

 

[grunt11b]

Yes, the pollsters are willing to stake their reputations and livelihood on incorrect poll numbers just to show Obama ahead.

The ends justify the means.
-Machiavelli

 

[lukelk]

Lol you know what, this sounds like a faux new trick, and in 08 all the polls were" close" and fox had McCain winning and we all know how that turned out don't we.

 

[Katzndogz]

Checking the methodology of any poll now is crucial. We've seen many of them even poll "adults" as compared to "likely voters" as well as the continual oversampling of Democrats so they can get their blazing headlines.

Take that raw data, give it to six different polling computation agencies and you will get six different results. To get to a place where the polls have some relationship to the data, the gap has to be wide. The polls had Bush up by 9 over Kerry, so that did not lend itself to the same kind of manipulation.

 

[grunt11b]

Checking the methodology of any poll now is crucial. We've seen many of them even poll "adults" as compared to "likely voters" as well as the continual oversampling of Democrats so they can get their blazing headlines.

I dont think they are doing it to discourage conservatives from voting. I think they are selling it so hard to there base that Obama can't lose that when he does lose the base will assume there was cheating and the far left base will begin to riot over it. Marshall law anyone?

 

[Uncensored2008]

Obama is going to win easily--5 million votes or so; 300-320 Electoral Votes. Book it. Hope you like your new sig line

Then you can safely stay home and enjoy some meth. Invite your demagoguecrat friends over for a crystal party.

ACORN doesn't even need to get out the illegal vote.

It's in the bag!

 

[Foxfyre]

Checking the methodology of any poll now is crucial. We've seen many of them even poll "adults" as compared to "likely voters" as well as the continual oversampling of Democrats so they can get their blazing headlines.

Yes, methology and an inerest in accuracy rather than partisanship are huge factors in polling. In election after election Rasmussen is at or near the top in accuracy because of his rolling averages of likely voters only and taken at many different times during the day to avoid over polling any particular demographic. Those polling only housewives or general population will get much different results than those polling a wide diversity of demographics. A welfare recipient who isn't even registered to vote can easily be included in a poll and will have an opinion.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Yes, the pollsters are willing to stake their reputations and livelihood on incorrect poll numbers just to show Obama ahead.

Why not?

It's never hurt them in the past. The polls had Bush losing in 04' and in 2000, and Scott Walker being recalled. It hasn't hurt them any.