This confederacy of thieves

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    When there is collusion between corperations and the government, all those without power suffer.

    This confederacy of thieves | The Stump - OregonLive.com

    The lawsuit, now known as Cobell v. Salazar, alleged that the Interior Department -- in collusion with energy companies -- had ignored its fiduciary responsibilities to the plaintiffs by absconding with mineral royalties owed to Native landowners since the late 1800s. Accountants for Price Waterhouse conducted the initial review of the government's books -- that is, the books the government could find. In their 1998 report to the federal district court judge, Royce Lamberth, the accountants pulled no punches. Some $50 billion (and maybe a lot more) had gone missing from Native accounts. In 2003, after twice citing interior secretaries with contempt of court for bureaucratic foot-dragging and chronic malfeasance, Lamberth, a West Texas judge appointed by President George H.W. Bush, ruled in favor of the plaintiffs.

    "Alas," he declared, "our modern Interior Department has time and again demonstrated that it is a dinosaur -- the morally and culturally oblivious hand-me-down of a disgracefully racist and imperialist government that should have been buried a century ago ... . For those harboring hope that the stories of murder, dispossession, forced marches, assimilationist policy programs, and other incidents of cultural genocide against the Indians are merely the echoes of a horrible, bigoted government-past that has been sanitized by the good deeds of more recent history, this case serves as an appalling reminder of the evils that result when large numbers of the politically powerless are placed at the mercy of institutions engendered and controlled by a politically powerful few."
     
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    This is an evergreen. Both sides like to hit each other with this one, because untangling the mess would is beyond the capacity of the judicial system.. Everyone knows the government messed up, badly, and has continued to mess up worse as year chases year. But when the other side gets in, they have to be the defendant and fixing it is beyond the capacity of anybody. It pretty much needs someone to come in cut the mess up and re arrange it fresh. And no one wants to.
     
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    We spent the amount stolen from the Native Americans in one year in Iraq. It seems that we could spend that much righting this egrerious wrong.

    What has been offered and accepted is 7 cents on the dollar. That is the kind of justice one can expect when corperations and the government are working together to steal.
     
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    The difference between a successful parasite species and an unsuccessful one is that the parasites that last learn not to kill their hosts.

    What we got, folks, is a highly unsuccessful mutation of the parasite class whose forefathers once understood how dependent they were on the host classes being healthy.

    They forgot that back when they were telling themselves that the workers didn't matter, and that production class's misfortune wasn't going to become their problem.

    Yeah, that's right... everything fucking thing that Ayn Rand ever told those silver-spoonfed morons about how societies actually work was wrong.
     
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    yeah all that suffering because of corporations

    I think I'll go out and buy a new _______________ (fill in the blank)

    To make me feel better

    Damn those big corporations that make my daily life easier
     
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    stuff like this makes me wonder more how people can say god helped form this country through systematic slavery, rape, and murder
     
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    I fail to see what a treatise by Ayn Rand on the philosophy of capitalism has to do with Indian Affairs robbing Indians in a socialist type manner. Exactly what is she wrong about that has any relevance to this subject? If you use your brain I'm sure you can come up with an answer other than profanity.
     
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    It isn't the amount of cash that is the problem. It is who gets what.

    And it isn't the corporations who are at fault here. Interior must shoulder most of the blame for the really bad bookeeping.
     

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