This 6 minute video sums up the shocking facts of American wealth and inequality

[RKMBrown]

No one is consistently hungry. Not unless they have other conditions that leads to constant hunger and obesity. Speaking of which, we have the fattest poor people in the world. If you imagine that people are constantly hungry, volunteer at a soup kitchen or homeless shelter. If nothing else, you will be educated out of your erroneous notions. Our "poor" have so much food, coming from so many sources, that they send food back to their home countries by the barrel full.

You misunderstand obesity and poverty. The reason why we have poor obese people is because junk food is cheap. Healthy food is not. Could these people be smarter about what they buy? Sure, but eating healthy is still difficult when you are poor.

No.. it is not... you know how many packs of seeds you can get with the money you send on a value meal?? you know how many healthy veggies that yields??

You know how many chicken legs or thighs you can get when they are on sale at $0.99 a pound once in a while? You know they can keep in a freezer wrapped in cheap plastic wrap surrounded with cheap tin foil?

You know how much cheaper it is to buy fresh produce than it is to buy fast food?

To say healthy food 'is not cheap' is a flat out lie.. but that is par for the course for you and your ilk

I bought 50lbs of whole chicken breast this weekend (.99 cents a pound). Love those sales. Good to have a large freezer on hand to load up when the stuff is on sale.

 

[Billy000]

1in 6 are hungry? Bullshit. Show me one starving person in this country, that is not some victim of abuse by their guardians or choose to be on a hunger strike.

You make out like the friggin wealth pie is a limited value. That is just so damn stupit.

By your measure everyone in this country could be 10000000 times richer tomorrow and you would still bitch that the wealth pie is not being distributed in equal portions. OMG

Yes, 1 in 6 people face food insecurity, which means they go through periods of time without food.

For Christ's sakes. You assholes do not fucking pay attention. Absolutely nothing i have said so far suggests any of the bullshit you said in your last sentence. How about you be a man and have an actual debate with me?

By CHOICE in what they spend on...

They will buy smokes, but not buy food.. they will not shop wisely in terms of their food... etc...

1 in six are not 'hungry'... it is another made up bullshit tear jerker stat

Ok then. Prove the stat wrong. If it's bullshit, give me the real stats on food insecurity.

 

[RKMBrown]

Because this is inequality taken to absurd extremes. 1 in 6 people in this country are consistently hungry, while a very small group of people own 40% of our wealth. That is crazy.

1in 6 are hungry? Bullshit. Show me one starving person in this country, that is not some victim of abuse by their guardians or choose to be on a hunger strike.

You make out like the friggin wealth pie is a limited value. That is just so damn stupit.

By your measure everyone in this country could be 10000000 times richer tomorrow and you would still bitch that the wealth pie is not being distributed in equal portions. OMG

Yes, 1 in 6 people face food insecurity, which means they go through periods of time without food.

For Christ's sakes. You assholes do not fucking pay attention. Absolutely nothing i have said so far suggests any of the bullshit you said in your last sentence. How about you be a man and have an actual debate with me?

By your comments I'll just assume you don't understand what I said. I'll explain.

If Bob earns 10bucks an hour and Jill earns 1000 bucks an hour, then Jill's portion of your fairness based wealth pie between the two of them is 99%. And according to your OP that is not fair. If a few years later Bob is now earning 1000 bucks an hour and Jill is now earning 100000 bucks an hour then Bob is still unfairly treated because Jill is making 99% more than he is. Granted Bob is rich as hell but according to you justice is not served because Jill has too big a piece of the wealth pie.

Can you please explain what the hell food insecurity means. And also show me statistics that prove anyone in this country goes more than 12 hours without a meal.

 

[DiamondDave]

You misunderstand obesity and poverty. The reason why we have poor obese people is because junk food is cheap. Healthy food is not. Could these people be smarter about what they buy? Sure, but eating healthy is still difficult when you are poor.

No.. it is not... you know how many packs of seeds you can get with the money you send on a value meal?? you know how many healthy veggies that yields??

You know how many chicken legs or thighs you can get when they are on sale at $0.99 a pound once in a while? You know they can keep in a freezer wrapped in cheap plastic wrap surrounded with cheap tin foil?

You know how much cheaper it is to buy fresh produce than it is to buy fast food?

To say healthy food 'is not cheap' is a flat out lie.. but that is par for the course for you and your ilk

Oh, gee how do you suggest they use seeds in the winter time?

A dollar a pound? Are you kidding me? I have never seen that where I live.

You can get a full meal from fast food. You do not get a full meal from fresh produce.

jesus christ.. how ever did man survive before restaurants and grocery stores

Have you ever seen people harvest, package for the future, etc?? Have you ever saved money while you do harvest in the spring, summer, and fall for when you may have to buy produce during the winter months??

Yes.. you have little things called SALES... and you stock up when things are on sale.. and you store them... by canning or even little things called FREEZERS... and yes, you do find sales on chicken for a dollar a pound.. you do get times of year when turkey is even less than that... you do have things like low fat sausage for around the same price as well

QFC deals July 10 ? 16 ? Eggs $1 a dozen, Draper Valley whole chicken $0.99/lb plus more!

You can easily get a full meal from buying produce and buying things on sale.. so much so that you can feed a family of 4 for what you buy 2 value meals for, AND HAVE LEFTOVERS

You sir, are an idiot

 

[Freemason9]

I just don't see inequality as a problem.

Frank Zappa and Steve Vai didn't take their guitar playing skill from tone-deaf weasels like myself and others; they were born with and then nurtured a skill set.

Making money is a skill that can and should be taught in schools, there are standard things that wealthy and/or truly successful people as a matter of course and it's not hard to learn or implement.

I get angry because I see it as instantly obvious but what's being taught is smokescreen and bullshit and totally wrong

So you believe that even extreme inequality isn't a problem? Because all of human history indicates otherwise.

 

[DiamondDave]

Yes, 1 in 6 people face food insecurity, which means they go through periods of time without food.

For Christ's sakes. You assholes do not fucking pay attention. Absolutely nothing i have said so far suggests any of the bullshit you said in your last sentence. How about you be a man and have an actual debate with me?

By CHOICE in what they spend on...

They will buy smokes, but not buy food.. they will not shop wisely in terms of their food... etc...

1 in six are not 'hungry'... it is another made up bullshit tear jerker stat

Ok then. Prove the stat wrong. If it's bullshit, give me the real stats on food insecurity.

You ave not proven the stat right...

Indeed even the average poverty income can buy food... and when more than 5 in six have luxuries such as cable TV, sports shoes, drink alcohol and/or smoke, have a video game system, have air conditioning, etc.. IT IS INDEED A CHOICE on whether they are hungry or not.. when you choose a luxury and CLAIM hunger, it is indeed absolute BULLSHIT

 

[Billy000]

1in 6 are hungry? Bullshit. Show me one starving person in this country, that is not some victim of abuse by their guardians or choose to be on a hunger strike.

You make out like the friggin wealth pie is a limited value. That is just so damn stupit.

By your measure everyone in this country could be 10000000 times richer tomorrow and you would still bitch that the wealth pie is not being distributed in equal portions. OMG

Yes, 1 in 6 people face food insecurity, which means they go through periods of time without food.

For Christ's sakes. You assholes do not fucking pay attention. Absolutely nothing i have said so far suggests any of the bullshit you said in your last sentence. How about you be a man and have an actual debate with me?

By your comments I'll just assume you don't understand what I said. I'll explain.

If Bob earns 10bucks an hour and Jill earns 1000 bucks an hour, then Jill's portion of your fairness based wealth pie between the two of them is 99%. And according to your OP that is not fair. If a few years later Bob is now earning 1000 bucks an hour and Jill is now earning 100000 bucks an hour then Bob is still unfairly treated because Jill is making 99% more than he is. Granted Bob is rich as hell but according to you justice is not served because Jill has too big a piece of the wealth pie.

Can you please explain what the hell food insecurity means. And also show me statistics that prove anyone in this country goes more than 12 hours without a meal.

God you're so dumb. I never said anything about the wealth pie being distributed in equal portions. No one has fucking said that.

You also arent paying attention to the actual stats. The small group of individuals who 40% of our wealth are far more than just 100x wealthier than the poor. Your Bob and Jill scenario hardly puts the actual inequality in perspective.

Feedingamerica.org

(Their stats are straight from the Dept. of Agriculture's definition of food insecurity).

 

[tinydancer]

Should not the question be...

why are you so stupid you can't feed yourself?

Should not the question be....

Why can't you survive on your own?


Should not the question be....

You are too stupid to be alive without food stamps WHY AM I PAYING FOR YOU?

 

[tinydancer]

Yes, 1 in 6 people face food insecurity, which means they go through periods of time without food.

For Christ's sakes. You assholes do not fucking pay attention. Absolutely nothing i have said so far suggests any of the bullshit you said in your last sentence. How about you be a man and have an actual debate with me?

By your comments I'll just assume you don't understand what I said. I'll explain.

If Bob earns 10bucks an hour and Jill earns 1000 bucks an hour, then Jill's portion of your fairness based wealth pie between the two of them is 99%. And according to your OP that is not fair. If a few years later Bob is now earning 1000 bucks an hour and Jill is now earning 100000 bucks an hour then Bob is still unfairly treated because Jill is making 99% more than he is. Granted Bob is rich as hell but according to you justice is not served because Jill has too big a piece of the wealth pie.

Can you please explain what the hell food insecurity means. And also show me statistics that prove anyone in this country goes more than 12 hours without a meal.

God you're so dumb. I never said anything about the wealth pie being distributed in equal portions. No one has fucking said that.

You also arent paying attention to the actual stats. The small group of individuals who 40% of our wealth are far more than just 100x wealthier than the poor. Your Bob and Jill scenario hardly puts the actual inequality in perspective.

Feedingamerica.org

(Their stats are straight from the Dept. of Agriculture's definition of food insecurity).

Its the new talking point. financial inequality.

You know what. Fuck off. I am good. I work hard. I grow an awesome garden. Others are lazy and want what I grow.

I am a conservative. You are a liberal because you think you deserve what I worked so hard for.

 

[DiamondDave]

Yes, 1 in 6 people face food insecurity, which means they go through periods of time without food.

For Christ's sakes. You assholes do not fucking pay attention. Absolutely nothing i have said so far suggests any of the bullshit you said in your last sentence. How about you be a man and have an actual debate with me?

By your comments I'll just assume you don't understand what I said. I'll explain.

If Bob earns 10bucks an hour and Jill earns 1000 bucks an hour, then Jill's portion of your fairness based wealth pie between the two of them is 99%. And according to your OP that is not fair. If a few years later Bob is now earning 1000 bucks an hour and Jill is now earning 100000 bucks an hour then Bob is still unfairly treated because Jill is making 99% more than he is. Granted Bob is rich as hell but according to you justice is not served because Jill has too big a piece of the wealth pie.

Can you please explain what the hell food insecurity means. And also show me statistics that prove anyone in this country goes more than 12 hours without a meal.

God you're so dumb. I never said anything about the wealth pie being distributed in equal portions. No one has fucking said that.

You also arent paying attention to the actual stats. The small group of individuals who 40% of our wealth are far more than just 100x wealthier than the poor. Your Bob and Jill scenario hardly puts the actual inequality in perspective.

Feedingamerica.org

(Their stats are straight from the Dept. of Agriculture's definition of food insecurity).

Again.. you have a TV, video game, money for beer, etc and you claim 'food insecurity' and it makes it all BULLSHIT..

What someone has in wealth is of no concern to you in a free society... you have no right to the wealth accumulation of others.. you have no right to success... you have no guarantee of outcome... and what is indeed the possession of someone else you have no right to at all...

Wealth is also not some finite thing.. because some others have accumulated more does not mean it prevents you from accumulating some for yourself

Oh.. and keep your agenda sources to yourself... you have already shown that you have no clue as to what would make someone unable to buy food, what food can cost, and how to purchase healthy food for less than the price of fast food

 

[RKMBrown]

You do not get a full meal from fresh produce.

Huh? What's missing? Fresh produce can and does most certainly provide you with everything a body needs. A decent mix of fruits, veggies, grains and legumes, ... is all you need. But hell, with eggs and chicken so damn cheap these days all you need is one hour of work at minimum wage to get you 5-10 pounds of animal protein.

 

[Katzndogz]

Yes, 1 in 6 people face food insecurity, which means they go through periods of time without food.

For Christ's sakes. You assholes do not fucking pay attention. Absolutely nothing i have said so far suggests any of the bullshit you said in your last sentence. How about you be a man and have an actual debate with me?

By CHOICE in what they spend on...

They will buy smokes, but not buy food.. they will not shop wisely in terms of their food... etc...

1 in six are not 'hungry'... it is another made up bullshit tear jerker stat

Ok then. Prove the stat wrong. If it's bullshit, give me the real stats on food insecurity.

Food insecurity has nothing to do with actual hunger. Food insecurity is when someone doesn't have what they want to eat when they want to eat it. Hunger does not describe that period of time between breakfast and lunch.

If I would prefer to have a T-bone steak for dinner, but all that's in the fridge is hamburger, I am food insecure. Everyone on a diet is food insecure.

The government had to think of something to replace actual hunger since there's no actual hunger in the US.

 

[jknowgood]

Okay, lets see you buy a pound of ground beef for $3.00 a pound, a box of hamburger helper for $2.00, and two cans of vegetable fo a dollar a piece. Total $7.00. That will easily feed a family of four. It will cost a family of four at least $12.00 to eat skimpy at a fast food resturaunt. So your point is? There is another question we could ask the liberals that are so concerned about the hungry. Why aren't holding obama accountable? When he first got into office you could get a pound of ground beef for .99¢ and 4 cans of vegetables for a $1.00. The cost of food has tripled under obama, yet not a care from the left.

 

[auditor0007]

No one is consistently hungry. Not unless they have other conditions that leads to constant hunger and obesity. Speaking of which, we have the fattest poor people in the world. If you imagine that people are constantly hungry, volunteer at a soup kitchen or homeless shelter. If nothing else, you will be educated out of your erroneous notions. Our "poor" have so much food, coming from so many sources, that they send food back to their home countries by the barrel full.

You misunderstand obesity and poverty. The reason why we have poor obese people is because junk food is cheap. Healthy food is not. Could these people be smarter about what they buy? Sure, but eating healthy is still difficult when you are poor.

Bullshirt. Healthy food is cheaper than junk food.

You may want to rethink that statement. You're not making yourself look very intelligent.

 

[auditor0007]

No one is consistently hungry. Not unless they have other conditions that leads to constant hunger and obesity. Speaking of which, we have the fattest poor people in the world. If you imagine that people are constantly hungry, volunteer at a soup kitchen or homeless shelter. If nothing else, you will be educated out of your erroneous notions. Our "poor" have so much food, coming from so many sources, that they send food back to their home countries by the barrel full.

You misunderstand obesity and poverty. The reason why we have poor obese people is because junk food is cheap. Healthy food is not. Could these people be smarter about what they buy? Sure, but eating healthy is still difficult when you are poor.

No.. it is not... you know how many packs of seeds you can get with the money you send on a value meal?? you know how many healthy veggies that yields??

You know how many chicken legs or thighs you can get when they are on sale at $0.99 a pound once in a while? You know they can keep in a freezer wrapped in cheap plastic wrap surrounded with cheap tin foil?

You know how much cheaper it is to buy fresh produce than it is to buy fast food?

To say healthy food 'is not cheap' is a flat out lie.. but that is par for the course for you and your ilk

Stop comparing store bought food to fast food. Try again.

 

[DiamondDave]

You misunderstand obesity and poverty. The reason why we have poor obese people is because junk food is cheap. Healthy food is not. Could these people be smarter about what they buy? Sure, but eating healthy is still difficult when you are poor.

No.. it is not... you know how many packs of seeds you can get with the money you send on a value meal?? you know how many healthy veggies that yields??

You know how many chicken legs or thighs you can get when they are on sale at $0.99 a pound once in a while? You know they can keep in a freezer wrapped in cheap plastic wrap surrounded with cheap tin foil?

You know how much cheaper it is to buy fresh produce than it is to buy fast food?

To say healthy food 'is not cheap' is a flat out lie.. but that is par for the course for you and your ilk

Stop comparing store bought food to fast food. Try again.

The poster suggested healthy food is not cheap.. and that fast food was... buying healthy food in stores is something EVERYONE can do.. it is not like grocery stores or produce stands do not exist... nobody HAS to eat at fast food restaurants

 

[RKMBrown]

You misunderstand obesity and poverty. The reason why we have poor obese people is because junk food is cheap. Healthy food is not. Could these people be smarter about what they buy? Sure, but eating healthy is still difficult when you are poor.

Bullshirt. Healthy food is cheaper than junk food.

You may want to rethink that statement. You're not making yourself look very intelligent.

Ok, in most cases healthy food is cheaper than junk food by orders of magnitude.

There, is that better?

 

[Katzndogz]

You misunderstand obesity and poverty. The reason why we have poor obese people is because junk food is cheap. Healthy food is not. Could these people be smarter about what they buy? Sure, but eating healthy is still difficult when you are poor.

Bullshirt. Healthy food is cheaper than junk food.

You may want to rethink that statement. You're not making yourself look very intelligent.

Whether or not healthy food is cheaper than junk food isn't a consideration. It doesn't taste as good. A bag of potato chips and a pint of Hagen Daz just tastes better than the steamed vegetable plate. The psychology of poverty is that they can afford so little, they cannot deny themselves anything pleasant that they can afford. They can't afford a new car, but they can afford six Kit Kat bars. They comfort themselves with food. They replace all those big luxuries with little luxuries. A parent might not be able to afford the newest model Xbox, so they run off to McDonalds instead.

Then there is the big one. Convenience. If you really want to eat healthy all those fresh fruits and vegetables don't have a long shelf life. For the truly lazy in poverty, they don't want to take time out of their busy Jerry Springer schedules to go to the store every couple of days.

 

[jknowgood]

I think their just go lazy to cook.

 

[auditor0007]

1in 6 are hungry? Bullshit. Show me one starving person in this country, that is not some victim of abuse by their guardians or choose to be on a hunger strike.

You make out like the friggin wealth pie is a limited value. That is just so damn stupit.

By your measure everyone in this country could be 10000000 times richer tomorrow and you would still bitch that the wealth pie is not being distributed in equal portions. OMG

Yes, 1 in 6 people face food insecurity, which means they go through periods of time without food.

For Christ's sakes. You assholes do not fucking pay attention. Absolutely nothing i have said so far suggests any of the bullshit you said in your last sentence. How about you be a man and have an actual debate with me?

By your comments I'll just assume you don't understand what I said. I'll explain.

If Bob earns 10bucks an hour and Jill earns 1000 bucks an hour, then Jill's portion of your fairness based wealth pie between the two of them is 99%. And according to your OP that is not fair. If a few years later Bob is now earning 1000 bucks an hour and Jill is now earning 100000 bucks an hour then Bob is still unfairly treated because Jill is making 99% more than he is. Granted Bob is rich as hell but according to you justice is not served because Jill has too big a piece of the wealth pie.

Can you please explain what the hell food insecurity means. And also show me statistics that prove anyone in this country goes more than 12 hours without a meal.

Wow, dumb and dumber. While I have my doubts about one in every six going or being hungry, there is no doubt that millions go more than 12 hours without a meal at least every now and then. You obviously have no clue about the realities that real poor people face. Yes, they have it much better here in the US than many other parts of the world, but being poor is not fun, pretty, or glamorous. It's a tough life for most and it's not as easy to get out of as you seem to think.

One of the biggest faults of cons is that they have lost all sense of compassion. Greed had so taken over their thought process that they can no longer think straight. Getting back to the point of the thread, the point is that so few people controlling so much of the wealth is just bad for the economy. It's that plain and simple. It has nothing to do with being fair. The bulk of that wealth is not being used to help the economy grow. It's one of the main reasons our economy is stuck and going nowhere. If half of that wealth that is held by the top 1% was spread out amongst the remaining 99%, the vast majority of that wealth would be spent and put back into the economy. Economically speaking, it would do much more good than being held by a very small number of people who have so much they don't even know what to do with it. Sure the top 1% invests that money, but a great deal of it, they invest overseas.

This argument is not about what is fair and what is not; it's about what makes sense and what is better for our economy.