These Are The People dems Want To Have A Cease Fire For

[AntonToo]

So we are the world's police force again? No one is dictating us what to do, and one of those choices is to not get entangled in yet another proxy war with Russia.

There is no proxy war with Russia. We have no interest in any war with Russia.

The war was started by Putin who descided it was a good idea to baselessly invade a sovereign country to annex some territories. We've warned him against it, we've clearly explained what our response will be, but he went ahead anyway.

The war can end as soon as he decides to withraw his troops form Ukraine.

Untill then, America will materially support, at Ukraine's continued request, their self-defense against this fascist invasion.

 

[hadit]

There is no proxy war with Russia. We have no interest in any war with Russia.

The war was started by Putin who descided it was a good idea to go invade a sovereign country. We've warned him against it, we clearly explained what our response will be, but he went ahead anyway.

The war can also end as soon as he decides to withraw his troops form Ukraine.

Untill then, America will support, at Ukraine's continued request, their self-defense against this fascist invasion.

Of course, we will, until it becomes clear that Ukraine is losing, then we get drawn into something worse because once we pick sides, we can no longer say, "Oh well, too bad, so sad. Good luck with your new Russian overlords". The only clean exit from this situation for us is for Ukraine to decisively defeat Putin rapidly, and while that would be very nice, it doesn't appear to be happening.

 

[AntonToo]

Of course, we will, until it becomes clear that Ukraine is losing, then we get drawn into something worse because once we pick sides, we can no longer say, "Oh well, too bad, so sad. Good luck with your new Russian overlords".

Nonsense.

We will provide material help and economic pressure on Russia, but at the end of the day it's on Ukraine to win or lose this war.

 

[Billiejeens]

Nonsense.

We will provide material help but at the end of the day it's on Ukraine to win or lose this.

Your Boy Biden, told Putin that it was okay.

 

[AntonToo]

Your Boy Biden, told Putin that it was okay.

Bullshit.

Putin crossed all red lines Biden set out short of nuclear weapon use.

 

[hadit]

Nonsense.

We will provide material help and economic pressure on Russia, but at the end of the day it's on Ukraine to win or lose this war.

You keep believing that. We weren't supposed to have bodies piling up in Korea or Viet Nam either. We never declared war, but that didn't make much difference to the guys dying over there.

 

[hadit]

Bullshit.

Putin crossed all red lines Biden set out short of nuclear weapon use.

Which of course begs the question, why does Putin have so little respect for our president? He certainly took none of these actions when the former president was in office.

 

[AntonToo]

You keep believing that. We weren't supposed to have bodies piling up in Korea or Viet Nam either. We never declared war, but that didn't make much difference to the guys dying over there.

I belive it based on facts.

No one is proposing direct engagement with Russians and very few Americans support it. It won't happen.

 

[2aguy]

Police gather evidence of sex assaults during Hamas October 7 attack

Israel's Lahav 433, a crime-fighting umbrella organisation known as the 'Israeli FBI ', has been working to gather evidence of sexual assaults during Hamas's October 7 incursion from Gaza.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Hamas terrorists gang-raped an Israeli woman before one shot her in the back of the head while he was still having sex with her, according to horrifying witness testimony.
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While gathering evidence, Lahav 433 also took testimony from a woman who said she witnessed the gang-rape and murder of another young woman.

Haaretz reports the witness told officers of how she watched the shocking attack unfold as she hid from Hamas gunmen wearing military uniforms.

'As I am hiding, I see in the corner of my eye that [a terrorist] is raping her,' the witness told investigators. 'They bent her over and I realised they were raping her and simply passing her on to the next [gunman].'

The witness says the victim was 'alive' and 'on her feet and bleeding from her back. But then the situation was that he was pulling her hair. She had long, brown hair.'

The woman told officers one of the Hamas gunmen 'shot her in the head while he was raping her... didn't even lift his pants'.

Her testimony has been reported in a number of Israeli news outlets. It was one of thousands of pieces of evidence gathered by the police.

Another male witness said he didn't see the rape itself, but confirmed the other witness told him at the time what she had seen.

Until now, reports of sexual violence carried out by Hamas terrorists were based on testimonies from first responders, who arrived in settlements on October 7 in the aftermath of the attacks.

Once there, they said they found bodies of naked women, with signs of abuse.

Zaka rescue and recovery personnel, the ultra-Orthodox volunteer organisation that helped to retrieve and identify bodies, have detailed a number of atrocities, including sex attacks.

It is understood that Shin Bet (the Israel Security Agency) and the police have held hundreds of people suspected of being involved in the massacre in custod

What about the puppies, James??

Hamas and those who support them need to be stopped.

 

[AntonToo]

Which of course begs the question, why does Putin have so little respect for our president? He certainly took none of these actions when the former president was in office.

This question comes from ignorance.

Putin's plan was not a prolonged war but a quick take over of Kiev like he pulled off in Crimea in 2014. Russia would then ride out the sanctions and Putin would fancy himself a great emperor like Peter the Great for regaining control of Ukraine.

Former president Trump would do NOTHING that Biden would not.

 

[hadit]

I belive it based on facts.

No one is proposing direct engagement with Russians and very few Americans support it. It won't happen.

That would be very nice, but I don't trust the government's word on it, at all.

 

[struth]

Police gather evidence of sex assaults during Hamas October 7 attack

Israel's Lahav 433, a crime-fighting umbrella organisation known as the 'Israeli FBI ', has been working to gather evidence of sexual assaults during Hamas's October 7 incursion from Gaza.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Hamas terrorists gang-raped an Israeli woman before one shot her in the back of the head while he was still having sex with her, according to horrifying witness testimony.
...

While gathering evidence, Lahav 433 also took testimony from a woman who said she witnessed the gang-rape and murder of another young woman.

Haaretz reports the witness told officers of how she watched the shocking attack unfold as she hid from Hamas gunmen wearing military uniforms.

'As I am hiding, I see in the corner of my eye that [a terrorist] is raping her,' the witness told investigators. 'They bent her over and I realised they were raping her and simply passing her on to the next [gunman].'

The witness says the victim was 'alive' and 'on her feet and bleeding from her back. But then the situation was that he was pulling her hair. She had long, brown hair.'

The woman told officers one of the Hamas gunmen 'shot her in the head while he was raping her... didn't even lift his pants'.

Her testimony has been reported in a number of Israeli news outlets. It was one of thousands of pieces of evidence gathered by the police.

Another male witness said he didn't see the rape itself, but confirmed the other witness told him at the time what she had seen.

Until now, reports of sexual violence carried out by Hamas terrorists were based on testimonies from first responders, who arrived in settlements on October 7 in the aftermath of the attacks.

Once there, they said they found bodies of naked women, with signs of abuse.

Zaka rescue and recovery personnel, the ultra-Orthodox volunteer organisation that helped to retrieve and identify bodies, have detailed a number of atrocities, including sex attacks.

It is understood that Shin Bet (the Israel Security Agency) and the police have held hundreds of people suspected of being involved in the massacre in custod

What about the puppies, James??

The Demafascist helped fund this attack....the Dembots support and share the same values as Hamas.

 

[AntonToo]

That would be very nice, but I don't trust the government's word on it, at all.

Well thats just your baseless suspicions.

 

[Edgetho]

This question comes from ignorance.

Putin's plan was not a prolonged war but a quick take over of Kiev like he pulled off in Crimea in 2014. Russia would then ride out the sanctions and Putin would fancy himself a great emperor like Peter the Great for regaining control of Ukraine.

Former president Trump would do NOTHING that Biden would not.

Putin had 4 years to do what he did while OMB was POTUS. Why did he wait?

Simple, because he was afraid of OMB and Sponge Brains Shits Pants frightens no one other than little girls within his grasp.

 

[hadit]

Well thats just your baseless suspicions.

Is it really baseless to distrust the American government when it comes to putting our troops on the ground in foreign countries for questionable reasons? I hope you're not seriously so naive as to believe we won't ever be in Ukraine just because no one's talking about doing it right now. The president doesn't have to ask you or even Congress for permission to put troops wherever he wants them. He only has a time limit AFTERWARDS to alert Congress he's done so, and at that point, Congress has no choice but to go along, because to do otherwise would be to put those troops on jeopardy. No, we would see a massive patriotic propaganda effort to rally support for the troops and there goes your "they won't stand for it" line. We could be embroiled up to our necks in very little time at all.

 

[AntonToo]

Is it really baseless to distrust the American government when it comes to putting our troops on the ground in foreign countries for questionable reasons? I hope you're not seriously so naive as to believe we won't ever be in Ukraine just because no one's talking about doing it right now. The president doesn't have to ask you or even Congress for permission to put troops wherever he wants them. He only has a time limit AFTERWARDS to alert Congress he's done so, and at that point, Congress has no choice but to go along, because to do otherwise would be to put those troops on jeopardy. No, we would see a massive patriotic propaganda effort to rally support for the troops and there goes your "they won't stand for it" line. We could be embroiled up to our necks in very little time at all.

American government in general and Joe Biden in particular, has no interest in a war with Russia.

Not political, not economic, not moral.

What's so hard to belive?

 

[Blaster]

The United States should let Ukraine and Israel decide their own fate and not engage in a proxy war.

 

[struth]

This question comes from ignorance.

Putin's plan was not a prolonged war but a quick take over of Kiev like he pulled off in Crimea in 2014. Russia would then ride out the sanctions and Putin would fancy himself a great emperor like Peter the Great for regaining control of Ukraine.

Former president Trump would do NOTHING that Biden would not.

Fromer President Trump keep Putin from invading. Something Obama and Xiden couldn't do...now in Obama's defense, it wasn't weakness per se, it was part of his more flexible with Putin polices for going easy on him during the 2012 election

 

[hadit]

This question comes from ignorance.

Putin's plan was not a prolonged war but a quick take over of Kiev like he pulled off in Crimea in 2014. Russia would then ride out the sanctions and Putin would fancy himself a great emperor like Peter the Great for regaining control of Ukraine.

Former president Trump would do NOTHING that Biden would not.

Yet he waited until TRUMP! could do precisely NOTHING to take action and took action quickly after Quid Pro assumed power. That was not coincidence. Most likely, he was afraid TRUMP! was unstable and would cause a great deal of devastation in Russia, while Quid Pro would dither and not know what to do. It's kind of funny in a way, all those pundits so sure that TRUMP! would kick off WWIII, while he became the Peace President and deserved that Nobel Prize that somebody else won for doing nothing.

 

[hadit]

American government in general and Joe Biden in particular, has no interest in a war with Russia.

Not political, not economic, not moral.

What's so hard to belive?

That the American government will not suddenly change its course and put troops in harm's way in Ukraine.