These are the facts in evidence. Trumpette's, avert your eyes.

[miketx]

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So.........attempting to refute the facts isn't your thing. Got it.

You filth have no facts. All you do is parrot media bullshit. Traitor.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

No aid was ever held up.

Wow.

Like I said. You have to be literally mentally ill. You really should quit drinking so early in the morning.

Unfortunately for you. They got the money and were never aware of the slightest delay.

 

[AntonToo]

Let me say from the outset I fully understand Trumpette's are not typically persuaded by facts.

Congress authorized $391M in aid to Ukraine at the end of 2018. $250M under the control of the DoD and $141M under the control of the Dept. of State.

July 3.........Lt. Col. Vindman testified that is the date when he learned a hold on the aid had been put on.

July 10.......During a meeting at the WH Gordo Sondland makes Ukrainian officials aware Zelensky will only get a WH meeting w/ Donzo the Clown if he agrees to launch investigations in to the Biden's. Bolton tells Fiona Hill to report this to the NSC lawyer.

July 18........In a secure call with national security officials, a staff member of the WH OMB announces there’s a freeze on Ukraine aid until further notice, based on a presidential order to the budget office.
Trump’s Hold on Ukrainian Military Aid was Illegal

July 25.........the "perfect" call. Immediately after Zelensky offers to buy more military weapons Trump replies by saying "I would like you to do us a favor though" and proceeds to ask Zelensky to look in to the batshyte crazy conspiracy theory about the Crowdstrike server and later to work with Slimy Rudy in investigating the Biden's.
FEC chairwoman reiterates illegality of soliciting campaign help from foreign governments

Two US officials, Catherine Croft and Laura Cooper, have testified that as early as July 25 Ukraine officials expressed concern over the military aid they knew had been approved. “On July 25, a member of my staff got a question from a Ukraine embassy contact asking what was going on with Ukraine security assistance,” Cooper testified.

Aug. 12.......A whistleblower files a formal complaint addressed to Congress that details concerns over the July 25 phone call and the hold placed on the military aid. The complaint is withheld from Congress until Sept. 25. At some point after the call was made alarmed WH and national security officials, including John Eisenberg, make the decision to use a code level secure server to hide.......sorry.........store.......sorry......hide the transcript of the call even though it contains nothing of national security import to justify such a measure. The DoJ is notified of a criminal referral issued by the CIA's top lawyer regarding the call. Despite the obvious violation of the law prohibiting the solicitation of election assistance from a foreign country Billy the Bagman determines the call is no problemo.

Congressional testimony from Sondland, Hill, Vindman, Taylor, Cooper, Volker all corroborate the fact that diplomatic officials were aware the assistance to Ukraine would be held up until an announcement was made by Ukraine that the investigations Trump wanted were being initiated. Sondland testified that...... “Everyone was in the loop. It was no secret.” He went on to say.......“Was there a quid pro quo? As I testified previously, with regard to the requested White House call and White House meeting, the answer is yes.”

Various WH officials such as................

could offer more details but their testimony is being illegally blocked by the imposition of a claim that does not exist in law, "blanket privilege" for any and all WH officials the prez sees fit to block.

Once the WH became aware Trump had been caught they released the military aid and an edited copy of the call transcript cuz...............what else could they do?

In a nutshell, Trump put a hold on military assistance to use as leverage in order to get Zelensky to agree to announce Ukraine would investigate a political rival of Don's who at the time was the front runner to get the Dem nomination to run for the presidency............breaking two laws.

Do you believe Adam Schiff does not know the Whistleblower as he has REPEATEDLY STATED? Yes or no?

You seriously think something about Schiff and Whistleblower can possibly make the case that Trump DIDN'T do what a mountain of evidence proves he did?

There is only one reason to talk about process characters and not the actual evidence - like most Republicans in the Congress you want the SIDE SHOW, because you can't handle the main stage.

Except, there is no evidence. Lol. Quit lying libs. We can see through the deceit.

No evidence?

Trump's pointman on Ukraine, who donated a million dollars to Trump campaign testifying that everything was conditioned on announcement of investigations is NOT evidence?

A WH released Trump call to Zelensky where he talks about Ukraine not recieprocating generous American aid and the favors he wants from Zelesky in investigating DNC server and Bidens IS NOT EVIDENCE?

Lack of any explanation for why the aid was held up and what changed, aside from Congress opening investigation, is not evidence?

Sondland and other admin members working on public statement by Ukrainian president who was scheduled for CNN interview that get cancelled when whistleblower complaint becomes public IS NOT EVIDENCE?

Trump administration blatantly obstructing Congressional investigation and refusing to provide testimony of people directly involved and documents that would clear the president if he did nothing wrong. IS NOT EVIDENCE OF CONCIENCE OF GUILT?


Man, oh man, you must own at least a few Brooklyn bridges by now.

 

[blackhawk]

No announcement was ever made and Ukraine got the aid.

But those are facts that go against the OP TDS how can you do something so cruel?

 

[g5000]

No aid was ever held up.

Wow.

Like I said. You have to be literally mentally ill. You really should quit drinking so early in the morning.

Unfortunately for you. They got the money and were never aware of the slightest delay.

They got the money after Trump's extortion scheme was made public.

You people are downright Orwellian. Seriously.

Claiming the aid was never held up? It takes a special kind of retard with actual mental illness to say that shit.

 

[AntonToo]

No announcement was ever made and Ukraine got the aid.

Announcement absolutely was made by Sondland to Ukranian officials and other diplomats that EVERYTHING (the phonecalls, the WH visit and even aid) is conditioned on investigations and public announcements by Zelensky. He testified to it before Congress.

The aid was held back with ZERO sane explanation and released only AFTER CONGRESS OPENED INVESTIGATIONS.


I know you are tipsy drunk and all but COME ON, wake the fuck up and wake up your idiot rightwing friends too.

Antosha is embarrassing himself again. Poor Antosha.

As for corrupting the 2020 election, even if Ukraine had announced an investigation into Joe and Hunter Biden, Trump couldn’t know how effective it would be, how long it would take, or whether it might even exonerate them. The election is still a year away. If the mere announcement of a foreign government’s investigation into corruption can poison a U.S. election, then American democracy must be weaker than even its enemies think.

Dumbass, the mere announcement that Biden was under actual investigation for corruption would be a huge political blow.

Trump learned that DAMN WELL during the last election when Comey was publicly t-boning Hillary.

Trump campaign is preparing to spend millions on these ads against Biden in early Democrat primary states. He is their top concern.

 

[Crepitus]

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No, he got it right.

 

[Crepitus]

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Whew...boy - you got it bad.

LOL!!!

So.........attempting to refute the facts isn't your thing. Got it.

When you start posting facts instead of opinions, maybe some will honor your idiotic post by responding. Until then, suck it up!

Those are facts.

You being a conservative I understand you have trouble identifying them.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Let me say from the outset I fully understand Trumpette's are not typically persuaded by facts.

Congress authorized $391M in aid to Ukraine at the end of 2018. $250M under the control of the DoD and $141M under the control of the Dept. of State.

July 3.........Lt. Col. Vindman testified that is the date when he learned a hold on the aid had been put on.

July 10.......During a meeting at the WH Gordo Sondland makes Ukrainian officials aware Zelensky will only get a WH meeting w/ Donzo the Clown if he agrees to launch investigations in to the Biden's. Bolton tells Fiona Hill to report this to the NSC lawyer.

July 18........In a secure call with national security officials, a staff member of the WH OMB announces there’s a freeze on Ukraine aid until further notice, based on a presidential order to the budget office.
Trump’s Hold on Ukrainian Military Aid was Illegal

July 25.........the "perfect" call. Immediately after Zelensky offers to buy more military weapons Trump replies by saying "I would like you to do us a favor though" and proceeds to ask Zelensky to look in to the batshyte crazy conspiracy theory about the Crowdstrike server and later to work with Slimy Rudy in investigating the Biden's.
FEC chairwoman reiterates illegality of soliciting campaign help from foreign governments

Two US officials, Catherine Croft and Laura Cooper, have testified that as early as July 25 Ukraine officials expressed concern over the military aid they knew had been approved. “On July 25, a member of my staff got a question from a Ukraine embassy contact asking what was going on with Ukraine security assistance,” Cooper testified.

Aug. 12.......A whistleblower files a formal complaint addressed to Congress that details concerns over the July 25 phone call and the hold placed on the military aid. The complaint is withheld from Congress until Sept. 25. At some point after the call was made alarmed WH and national security officials, including John Eisenberg, make the decision to use a code level secure server to hide.......sorry.........store.......sorry......hide the transcript of the call even though it contains nothing of national security import to justify such a measure. The DoJ is notified of a criminal referral issued by the CIA's top lawyer regarding the call. Despite the obvious violation of the law prohibiting the solicitation of election assistance from a foreign country Billy the Bagman determines the call is no problemo.

Congressional testimony from Sondland, Hill, Vindman, Taylor, Cooper, Volker all corroborate the fact that diplomatic officials were aware the assistance to Ukraine would be held up until an announcement was made by Ukraine that the investigations Trump wanted were being initiated. Sondland testified that...... “Everyone was in the loop. It was no secret.” He went on to say.......“Was there a quid pro quo? As I testified previously, with regard to the requested White House call and White House meeting, the answer is yes.”

Various WH officials such as................

could offer more details but their testimony is being illegally blocked by the imposition of a claim that does not exist in law, "blanket privilege" for any and all WH officials the prez sees fit to block.

Once the WH became aware Trump had been caught they released the military aid and an edited copy of the call transcript cuz...............what else could they do?

In a nutshell, Trump put a hold on military assistance to use as leverage in order to get Zelensky to agree to announce Ukraine would investigate a political rival of Don's who at the time was the front runner to get the Dem nomination to run for the presidency............breaking two laws.

Do you believe Adam Schiff does not know the Whistleblower as he has REPEATEDLY STATED? Yes or no?

You seriously think something about Schiff and Whistleblower can possibly make the case that Trump DIDN'T do what a mountain of evidence proves he did?

There is only one reason to talk about process characters and not the actual evidence - like most Republicans in the Congress you want the SIDE SHOW, because you can't handle the main stage.

Except, there is no evidence. Lol. Quit lying libs. We can see through the deceit.

No evidence?

Trump's pointman on Ukraine, who donated a million dollars to Trump campaign testifying that everything was conditioned on announcement of investigations is NOT evidence?

A WH released Trump call to Zelensky where he talks about Ukraine not recieprocating generous American aid and the favors he wants from Zelesky in investigating DNC server and Bidens IS NOT EVIDENCE?

Lack of any explanation for why the aid was held up and what changed, aside from Congress opening investigation, is not evidence?

Sondland and other admin members working on public statement by Ukrainian president who was scheduled for CNN interview that get cancelled when whistleblower complaint becomes public IS NOT EVIDENCE?

Trump administration blatantly obstructing Congressional investigation and refusing to provide testimony of people directly involved and documents that would clear the president if he did nothing wrong. IS NOT EVIDENCE OF CONCIENCE OF GUILT?


Man, oh man, you must own at least a few Brooklyn bridges by now.

Actually, no. The Senate will quickly throw it out. The lib MO from day one has been to get rid of trump. This latest is just another lib circus.

 

[Crepitus]

 

[AntonToo]

Let me say from the outset I fully understand Trumpette's are not typically persuaded by facts.

Congress authorized $391M in aid to Ukraine at the end of 2018. $250M under the control of the DoD and $141M under the control of the Dept. of State.

July 3.........Lt. Col. Vindman testified that is the date when he learned a hold on the aid had been put on.

July 10.......During a meeting at the WH Gordo Sondland makes Ukrainian officials aware Zelensky will only get a WH meeting w/ Donzo the Clown if he agrees to launch investigations in to the Biden's. Bolton tells Fiona Hill to report this to the NSC lawyer.

July 18........In a secure call with national security officials, a staff member of the WH OMB announces there’s a freeze on Ukraine aid until further notice, based on a presidential order to the budget office.
Trump’s Hold on Ukrainian Military Aid was Illegal

July 25.........the "perfect" call. Immediately after Zelensky offers to buy more military weapons Trump replies by saying "I would like you to do us a favor though" and proceeds to ask Zelensky to look in to the batshyte crazy conspiracy theory about the Crowdstrike server and later to work with Slimy Rudy in investigating the Biden's.
FEC chairwoman reiterates illegality of soliciting campaign help from foreign governments

Two US officials, Catherine Croft and Laura Cooper, have testified that as early as July 25 Ukraine officials expressed concern over the military aid they knew had been approved. “On July 25, a member of my staff got a question from a Ukraine embassy contact asking what was going on with Ukraine security assistance,” Cooper testified.

Aug. 12.......A whistleblower files a formal complaint addressed to Congress that details concerns over the July 25 phone call and the hold placed on the military aid. The complaint is withheld from Congress until Sept. 25. At some point after the call was made alarmed WH and national security officials, including John Eisenberg, make the decision to use a code level secure server to hide.......sorry.........store.......sorry......hide the transcript of the call even though it contains nothing of national security import to justify such a measure. The DoJ is notified of a criminal referral issued by the CIA's top lawyer regarding the call. Despite the obvious violation of the law prohibiting the solicitation of election assistance from a foreign country Billy the Bagman determines the call is no problemo.

Congressional testimony from Sondland, Hill, Vindman, Taylor, Cooper, Volker all corroborate the fact that diplomatic officials were aware the assistance to Ukraine would be held up until an announcement was made by Ukraine that the investigations Trump wanted were being initiated. Sondland testified that...... “Everyone was in the loop. It was no secret.” He went on to say.......“Was there a quid pro quo? As I testified previously, with regard to the requested White House call and White House meeting, the answer is yes.”

Various WH officials such as................

could offer more details but their testimony is being illegally blocked by the imposition of a claim that does not exist in law, "blanket privilege" for any and all WH officials the prez sees fit to block.

Once the WH became aware Trump had been caught they released the military aid and an edited copy of the call transcript cuz...............what else could they do?

In a nutshell, Trump put a hold on military assistance to use as leverage in order to get Zelensky to agree to announce Ukraine would investigate a political rival of Don's who at the time was the front runner to get the Dem nomination to run for the presidency............breaking two laws.

Do you believe Adam Schiff does not know the Whistleblower as he has REPEATEDLY STATED? Yes or no?

You seriously think something about Schiff and Whistleblower can possibly make the case that Trump DIDN'T do what a mountain of evidence proves he did?

There is only one reason to talk about process characters and not the actual evidence - like most Republicans in the Congress you want the SIDE SHOW, because you can't handle the main stage.

Except, there is no evidence. Lol. Quit lying libs. We can see through the deceit.

No evidence?

Trump's pointman on Ukraine, who donated a million dollars to Trump campaign testifying that everything was conditioned on announcement of investigations is NOT evidence?

A WH released Trump call to Zelensky where he talks about Ukraine not recieprocating generous American aid and the favors he wants from Zelesky in investigating DNC server and Bidens IS NOT EVIDENCE?

Lack of any explanation for why the aid was held up and what changed, aside from Congress opening investigation, is not evidence?

Sondland and other admin members working on public statement by Ukrainian president who was scheduled for CNN interview that get cancelled when whistleblower complaint becomes public IS NOT EVIDENCE?

Trump administration blatantly obstructing Congressional investigation and refusing to provide testimony of people directly involved and documents that would clear the president if he did nothing wrong. IS NOT EVIDENCE OF CONCIENCE OF GUILT?


Man, oh man, you must own at least a few Brooklyn bridges by now.

Actually, no. The Senate will quickly throw it out. The lib MO from day one has been to get rid of trump. This latest is just another lib circus.

The Senate majority will vote to remove Trump...unfortunately thats not enough and there are enough cranks or transactional Republican assholes like Graham who know damn well Trump did exactly what he is accused of doing and will still vote no.

None of that refutes the actual evidence of the matter.

 

[MarathonMike]

Please keep this nonsense up. You realize Trump's poll numbers are better than Obama's at the same time in their presidency? With the impeachment and 24/7 negative reporting. You are actually helping him, not hurting him. Keep it up!

The matter before Congress is not whether impeachment helps or hurts Don. It's an issue of holding the POTUS accountable for violations of law.

Horse shit. THe Democrats have twisted the law into a weapon. There is nothing noble about what they are doing.

I've ask them what specific law Trump broke, they cannot tell me.

LOL Berg won't even answer the simple question whether he believes Schiff's claim that he doesn't know the Whistleblower.

What difference does it make? Do you folks have anything other than diversions?

It makes ALL the difference. When the mastermind behind the entire Impeachment farce bald face lies to the committee, he shows he has no credibility. Since you are ducking the question I assume you don't believe him.

 

[AntonToo]

The matter before Congress is not whether impeachment helps or hurts Don. It's an issue of holding the POTUS accountable for violations of law.

Horse shit. THe Democrats have twisted the law into a weapon. There is nothing noble about what they are doing.

I've ask them what specific law Trump broke, they cannot tell me.

LOL Berg won't even answer the simple question whether he believes Schiff's claim that he doesn't know the Whistleblower.

What difference does it make? Do you folks have anything other than diversions?

It makes ALL the difference. When the mastermind behind the entire Impeachment farce bald face lies to the committee, he shows he has no credibility. Since you are ducking the question I assume you don't believe him.

How did Schiff mastermind Trump holding up millitary aid to Ukraine with absolutely no proper explanation?

How did Schiff mastermind Jiuliani running around Ukraine looking for dirt on Bidens and trying to get embassador to Ukraine removed?

How did Schiff mastermind Trump call with Zelensky where he talked about Ukraine not recieprocating generous American aid, and how they ought to do us favors in investigating DNC server and Bidens?

How did Schiff mastermind Sondland telling Ukrainians that everything is conditioned on announcement of investigations?

How did Schiff mastermind Zelensky scheduling CNN interview?

He must be no less than God himself.

 

[whitehall]

If we used this criteria for the last administration Obama would be doing life for accessory to murder for the death of a Border Patrol officer who was killed with one of the weapons that Hussein and Holder authorized in op-Fast/Furious. There is no crime in the Trump impeachment. That's why democrats are using the generic "abuse of power". Abuse of power is translated to victory in an election.

 

[g5000]

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What impeachment evidence?

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

No announcement was ever made and Ukraine got the aid.

Announcement absolutely was made by Sondland to Ukranian officials and other diplomats that EVERYTHING (the phonecalls, the WH visit and even aid) is conditioned on investigations and public announcements by Zelensky. He testified to it before Congress.

The aid was held back with ZERO sane explanation and released only AFTER CONGRESS OPENED INVESTIGATIONS.


I know you are tipsy drunk and all but COME ON, wake the fuck up and wake up your idiot rightwing friends too.

Antosha is embarrassing himself again. Poor Antosha.

As for corrupting the 2020 election, even if Ukraine had announced an investigation into Joe and Hunter Biden, Trump couldn’t know how effective it would be, how long it would take, or whether it might even exonerate them. The election is still a year away. If the mere announcement of a foreign government’s investigation into corruption can poison a U.S. election, then American democracy must be weaker than even its enemies think.

Dumbass, the mere announcement that Biden was under actual investigation for corruption would be a huge political blow.

Trump learned that DAMN WELL during the last election when Comey was publicly t-boning Hillary.

Trump campaign is preparing to spend millions on these ads against Biden in early Democrat primary states. He is their top concern.

Hold on. He did it on a public call and it is not as if he made up the data on Biden. Burisma is real and to your point the Democrats just gave him free publicity of how corrupt Biden is. LMAO.

So you believe that our Democracy is so weak that a mere mention of an investigation would poison the US election? That is your stance. Correct?

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

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What impeachment evidence?

Unblock me coward

 

[AntonToo]

No announcement was ever made and Ukraine got the aid.

Announcement absolutely was made by Sondland to Ukranian officials and other diplomats that EVERYTHING (the phonecalls, the WH visit and even aid) is conditioned on investigations and public announcements by Zelensky. He testified to it before Congress.

The aid was held back with ZERO sane explanation and released only AFTER CONGRESS OPENED INVESTIGATIONS.


I know you are tipsy drunk and all but COME ON, wake the fuck up and wake up your idiot rightwing friends too.

Antosha is embarrassing himself again. Poor Antosha.

As for corrupting the 2020 election, even if Ukraine had announced an investigation into Joe and Hunter Biden, Trump couldn’t know how effective it would be, how long it would take, or whether it might even exonerate them. The election is still a year away. If the mere announcement of a foreign government’s investigation into corruption can poison a U.S. election, then American democracy must be weaker than even its enemies think.

Dumbass, the mere announcement that Biden was under actual investigation for corruption would be a huge political blow.

Trump learned that DAMN WELL during the last election when Comey was publicly t-boning Hillary.

Trump campaign is preparing to spend millions on these ads against Biden in early Democrat primary states. He is their top concern.

Hold on. He did it on a public call and it is not as if he made up the data on Biden. Burisma is real and to your point the Democrats just gave him free publicity of how corrupt Biden is. LMAO.

So you believe that our Democracy is so weak that a mere mention of an investigation would poison the US election? That is your stance. Correct?

1. It was NOT a public call and in fact the original transcribe of the call was inapropriately placed into top-security vault by WH lawyers , even though it had nothing classified contained. This original, most complete technical transcription has not been made available, instead we got the memorandum from WH. Which is again, evidence of cover-up.

Still, Trump brought up investigating his political rival on a widely listened to foreign policy call and that goes to exactly why this swamp toad does not belong in the high office he was entrusted with - HE FUNDAMENTALLY DOES NOT UNDERSTAND RIGHT FROM WRONG.

2. If Trump had any real basis for true investigation of Biden's corruption in his capacity as an American VP then he would have done it THE RIGHT WAY. Which is to file a complaint with DOJ and let them open, and pursue investigation. There is no basis for it, there is no real investigation and so Trump did the only thing he COULD - pressure Ukraine for bogus public announcements by abusing millitary aid apropriation.

 

[OldLady]

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LOL!!!

So.........attempting to refute the facts isn't your thing. Got it.

When you start posting facts instead of opinions, maybe some will honor your idiotic post by responding. Until then, suck it up!

What in the OP is an opinion? Specifically.

You still haven't told me what specific law Trump broke. This is why Trump will be reelected and we will get a majority in both houses. Thank you!

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

No announcement was ever made and Ukraine got the aid.

Announcement absolutely was made by Sondland to Ukranian officials and other diplomats that EVERYTHING (the phonecalls, the WH visit and even aid) is conditioned on investigations and public announcements by Zelensky. He testified to it before Congress.

The aid was held back with ZERO sane explanation and released only AFTER CONGRESS OPENED INVESTIGATIONS.


I know you are tipsy drunk and all but COME ON, wake the fuck up and wake up your idiot rightwing friends too.

Antosha is embarrassing himself again. Poor Antosha.

As for corrupting the 2020 election, even if Ukraine had announced an investigation into Joe and Hunter Biden, Trump couldn’t know how effective it would be, how long it would take, or whether it might even exonerate them. The election is still a year away. If the mere announcement of a foreign government’s investigation into corruption can poison a U.S. election, then American democracy must be weaker than even its enemies think.

Dumbass, the mere announcement that Biden was under actual investigation for corruption would be a huge political blow.

Trump learned that DAMN WELL during the last election when Comey was publicly t-boning Hillary.

Trump campaign is preparing to spend millions on these ads against Biden in early Democrat primary states. He is their top concern.

Hold on. He did it on a public call and it is not as if he made up the data on Biden. Burisma is real and to your point the Democrats just gave him free publicity of how corrupt Biden is. LMAO.

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1. It was NOT a public call and in fact the original transcribe of the call was inapropriately placed into top-security vault by WH lawyers , even though it had nothing classified contained. This original, most complete technical transcription has not been made available, instead we got the memorandum from WH. Which is again, evidence of cover-up.

2. If Trump had any real basis for true investigation of Biden's corruption in his capacity as an American VP then he would have done it THE RIGHT WAY. Which is to file a complaint with DOJ and let them open, and pursue investigation. There is no basis for it, there is no real investigation and so Trump did the only thing he COULD - pressure Ukraine for bogus public announcements by abusing millitary aid apropriation.

You did not answer my question and it was not a private call with all the people listening in. LOL.

If the mere announcement of a foreign government’s investigation into corruption can poison a U.S. election, then American democracy must be weaker than even its enemies think. So YOU BELIEVE THAT OUR DEMOCRACY IS THAT WEAK? Y or N?

Answer the question, Antosha.