"There’s a Black Man in the White House"

[daveman]

Again, the stupidity was the CIA arming Bin Laden from the get go, because he was killing Russians who might teach Afghan girls how to read. But then he was a "Freedom Fighter".

When he kills Americans, he's a "terrorist". See. Fun with words.

If we fought Afghanistan the way we fought WWII, we'd still be in the same mess, and more people would hate us.

Our middle east policy is one of sticking our fists into hornet's nests and wondering why we get stung. Sometimes by hornets we thought were nice. (Bin Laden, Saddam were both on the CIA Payroll at some point.)

Yawn. Yeah, yeah, chickens coming home to roost, we deserved to be attacked, yadda yadda yadda.

Just chickenshit nonsense.

Only if you try to go through life thinking they were "evildoers", who just attacked us while we were minding our own business.

We don't belong over there. But we keep playing around in their part of the world, and wonder why there's blowback.

Imagine if we never gave weapons to the assholes in Afghanistan. The Soviets would have finished them off in a year. Instead, we created an army of religous assholes who hated westerners, and modernity.

This was a good idea, why again?

Oh,yeah. Gotta beat them Commies.

Yawn. Yeah, yeah, America sucks, we're the source of all evil in the world, yadda yadda yadda.

 

[Barb]

Need help moving the goalposts?

Goalposts haven't been moved one little bit.

Can you name ONE prominant Democrat who claimed Prescott was a Nazi? Or was that some shit that went around on the internet?

Whoopie Goldberg.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yli3BxBEwOw]Whoopi Goldberg discusses George Bush Nazi links - YouTube[/ame]

Now quick, claim she isn't a prominent Democrat! You'll look even dumber than you do now!

But seriously, the GOP treats the birthers like they are gold, instead of denouncing them for the racists they are.

It's not racism, you fucking idiot.

Really, dood, this constant squawking of racism when it's not there is simply vacuous.

I did a poll of this website, and 25% of the people who post here STILL think Obama wasn't born in this country. This isn't a fringe view. It's a cancer.

You really think USMB is representative of the nation as a whole?

What a moron.

That wasn't Goldberg, it was Baher, it was during the Bush administration, and what she said was that companies he owned and co-owned did business that profited him- and help build up Nazi Germany's war machine. She was absolutely and 100% accurate. It is also the commonest fucking knowledge.

 

[MarcATL]

Arguing w/a palooka like Daveman is like competing in the Special Olympics...nobody wins.

Just an FYI my dear, I'd leave that boy alone...

 

[daveman]

Goalposts haven't been moved one little bit.

Can you name ONE prominant Democrat who claimed Prescott was a Nazi? Or was that some shit that went around on the internet?

Whoopie Goldberg.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yli3BxBEwOw]Whoopi Goldberg discusses George Bush Nazi links - YouTube[/ame]

Now quick, claim she isn't a prominent Democrat! You'll look even dumber than you do now!

It's not racism, you fucking idiot.

Really, dood, this constant squawking of racism when it's not there is simply vacuous.

I did a poll of this website, and 25% of the people who post here STILL think Obama wasn't born in this country. This isn't a fringe view. It's a cancer.

You really think USMB is representative of the nation as a whole?

What a moron.

That wasn't Goldberg, it was Baher, it was during the Bush administration, and what she said was that companies he owned and co-owned did business that profited him- and help build up Nazi Germany's war machine. She was absolutely and 100% accurate. It is also the commonest fucking knowledge.

And it's also meaningless except to those eaten alive with irrational hatred for George Bush.

 

[daveman]

Arguing w/a palooka like Daveman is like competing in the Special Olympics...nobody wins.

Just an FYI my dear, I'd leave that boy alone...

Hey, Marc, like I said, if you don't have a problem with white liberals telling you you're not good enough to succeed on your own, why should I?

 

[JoeB131]

Yawn. Yeah, yeah, chickens coming home to roost, we deserved to be attacked, yadda yadda yadda.

Just chickenshit nonsense.

Only if you try to go through life thinking they were "evildoers", who just attacked us while we were minding our own business.

We don't belong over there. But we keep playing around in their part of the world, and wonder why there's blowback.

Imagine if we never gave weapons to the assholes in Afghanistan. The Soviets would have finished them off in a year. Instead, we created an army of religous assholes who hated westerners, and modernity.

This was a good idea, why again?

Oh,yeah. Gotta beat them Commies.

Yawn. Yeah, yeah, America sucks, we're the source of all evil in the world, yadda yadda yadda.

I don't believe in "good and evil", guy, I believe in cause and effect.

Cause- we armed crazy people who think they are going to get 76 virgins if they kill unbelievers.

Effect - they start killing us because we are unbelievers.

Simple logic that fails you.

 

[Douger]

George Foreman is in the White House ? Why ?

 

[daveman]

Only if you try to go through life thinking they were "evildoers", who just attacked us while we were minding our own business.

We don't belong over there. But we keep playing around in their part of the world, and wonder why there's blowback.

Imagine if we never gave weapons to the assholes in Afghanistan. The Soviets would have finished them off in a year. Instead, we created an army of religous assholes who hated westerners, and modernity.

This was a good idea, why again?

Oh,yeah. Gotta beat them Commies.

Yawn. Yeah, yeah, America sucks, we're the source of all evil in the world, yadda yadda yadda.

I don't believe in "good and evil", guy, I believe in cause and effect.

Cause- we armed crazy people who think they are going to get 76 virgins if they kill unbelievers.

Effect - they start killing us because we are unbelievers.

Simple logic that fails you.

Like I said:

It's all America's fault.

Did you believe that horseshit when you were a Republican?

 

[JoeB131]

Yawn. Yeah, yeah, America sucks, we're the source of all evil in the world, yadda yadda yadda.

I don't believe in "good and evil", guy, I believe in cause and effect.

Cause- we armed crazy people who think they are going to get 76 virgins if they kill unbelievers.

Effect - they start killing us because we are unbelievers.

Simple logic that fails you.

Like I said:

It's all America's fault.

Did you believe that horseshit when you were a Republican?

To be honest, at the time, I was caught up in the anger like everyone else. It's hard to be objective when you are dragging bodies out of buildings.

But my thought that our involvement in the middle east was idiotic - on the part of BOTH Parties, not just the GOP - really, I've had that opinion since the 1990's.

Now, you can go about your whiny "why do you hate me" like a five year old whose been given a time out, but logic and reason says, if you keep trying to manipulate various factions to get a result that benefits you, eventually, they will come back and bite you.

We've been playing games over there since the 1950's. First to match wit with the Soviets, then to secure big Oil's profits, and then to prop up the Zionists.

And it's idiotic.

I have yet to hear you tell me why arming Bin Laden or supporting Saddam's coup was a good idea... They seem like pretty bad ones in retrospect.

 

[daveman]

I don't believe in "good and evil", guy, I believe in cause and effect.

Cause- we armed crazy people who think they are going to get 76 virgins if they kill unbelievers.

Effect - they start killing us because we are unbelievers.

Simple logic that fails you.

Like I said:

It's all America's fault.

Did you believe that horseshit when you were a Republican?

To be honest, at the time, I was caught up in the anger like everyone else. It's hard to be objective when you are dragging bodies out of buildings.

But my thought that our involvement in the middle east was idiotic - on the part of BOTH Parties, not just the GOP - really, I've had that opinion since the 1990's.

Now, you can go about your whiny "why do you hate me" like a five year old whose been given a time out, but logic and reason says, if you keep trying to manipulate various factions to get a result that benefits you, eventually, they will come back and bite you.

We've been playing games over there since the 1950's. First to match wit with the Soviets, then to secure big Oil's profits, and then to prop up the Zionists.

Oh, now you're dragging the Jews into it.

Well, that's never far behind with you guys, is it?

And it's idiotic.

I have yet to hear you tell me why arming Bin Laden or supporting Saddam's coup was a good idea... They seem like pretty bad ones in retrospect.

Welcome to the real world, kid. Sometimes you have to work with some pretty bad people to oppose even worse ones.

But it's funny you think they wouldn't hate us even if we'd never set foot over there.

 

[JoeB131]

Like I said:

It's all America's fault.

Did you believe that horseshit when you were a Republican?

To be honest, at the time, I was caught up in the anger like everyone else. It's hard to be objective when you are dragging bodies out of buildings.

But my thought that our involvement in the middle east was idiotic - on the part of BOTH Parties, not just the GOP - really, I've had that opinion since the 1990's.

Now, you can go about your whiny "why do you hate me" like a five year old whose been given a time out, but logic and reason says, if you keep trying to manipulate various factions to get a result that benefits you, eventually, they will come back and bite you.

We've been playing games over there since the 1950's. First to match wit with the Soviets, then to secure big Oil's profits, and then to prop up the Zionists.

Oh, now you're dragging the Jews into it.

Well, that's never far behind with you guys, is it?

Not at all. The Zionists are like abused children who've gotten big enough to beat up on someone else. And they really don't have that many friends left in the world. Europe and Latin America are turning their backs on them. Even American Jews look at Israel with a bit of embarrassment.

The only thing propping them up right now is a bunch of Funditarded Christians who think we need Israel so Jay-a-zus can come back.

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And it's idiotic.

I have yet to hear you tell me why arming Bin Laden or supporting Saddam's coup was a good idea... They seem like pretty bad ones in retrospect.

Welcome to the real world, kid. Sometimes you have to work with some pretty bad people to oppose even worse ones.

But it's funny you think they wouldn't hate us even if we'd never set foot over there.

Then why aren't they attacking Japan? Or Sweden?

Are you really saying there were "worse" people than Saddam or Bin Laden? Really?

And who would those people be?

It strikes me that if you involve yourself in fights that really have nothing to do with you, you become more hated than the people they were fighting.

The various factions over there have been fighting over who the magic man in the sky loves best for centuries... Seriously, we were going to change that?

 

[daveman]

To be honest, at the time, I was caught up in the anger like everyone else. It's hard to be objective when you are dragging bodies out of buildings.

But my thought that our involvement in the middle east was idiotic - on the part of BOTH Parties, not just the GOP - really, I've had that opinion since the 1990's.

Now, you can go about your whiny "why do you hate me" like a five year old whose been given a time out, but logic and reason says, if you keep trying to manipulate various factions to get a result that benefits you, eventually, they will come back and bite you.

We've been playing games over there since the 1950's. First to match wit with the Soviets, then to secure big Oil's profits, and then to prop up the Zionists.

Oh, now you're dragging the Jews into it.

Well, that's never far behind with you guys, is it?

Not at all. The Zionists are like abused children who've gotten big enough to beat up on someone else. And they really don't have that many friends left in the world. Europe and Latin America are turning their backs on them. Even American Jews look at Israel with a bit of embarrassment.

The only thing propping them up right now is a bunch of Funditarded Christians who think we need Israel so Jay-a-zus can come back.

Wow. You're a raving lunatic.

But thanks for highlighting that in addition to your other irrational hatreds, you hate Jews, too.

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And it's idiotic.

I have yet to hear you tell me why arming Bin Laden or supporting Saddam's coup was a good idea... They seem like pretty bad ones in retrospect.

Welcome to the real world, kid. Sometimes you have to work with some pretty bad people to oppose even worse ones.

But it's funny you think they wouldn't hate us even if we'd never set foot over there.

Then why aren't they attacking Japan? Or Sweden?

Why are they attacking England and France and Spain?

Are you really saying there were "worse" people than Saddam or Bin Laden? Really?

And who would those people be?

Communists.

You will, as programmed, refuse to accept that.

It strikes me that if you involve yourself in fights that really have nothing to do with you, you become more hated than the people they were fighting.

The various factions over there have been fighting over who the magic man in the sky loves best for centuries... Seriously, we were going to change that?

Christianity had a reformation.

Do you think brown people are incapable of becoming civilized?

 

[JoeB131]

Wow. You're a raving lunatic.

But thanks for highlighting that in addition to your other irrational hatreds, you hate Jews, too.

Pointing out their stupidity is hardly hate. It's just pointing out stupidity. If I lived in a neighborhood where my neighbors hated me so much they strapped bombs onto their kids in attempts to kill me while I was out barbequing, I'd be calling the realtor and getting the hell out of there.

I certainly wouldn't stay there for 65 years because an imaginary man in the sky told me to.

Why are they attacking England and France and Spain?

You mean members of NATO who have assisted in our attacks, and have had a history of invading those regions themselves? (All three nations you cited have colonized parts of the Islamic World until they were driven out.) Yeah, can't see why they'd attack them at all.

Are you really saying there were "worse" people than Saddam or Bin Laden? Really?

And who would those people be?

Communists.

You will, as programmed, refuse to accept that.

Well, I didn't see Communists flying planes into buildings. Or strapping bombs onto their kids. or doing any of that silly shit the Jihadists are doing.

It strikes me that if you involve yourself in fights that really have nothing to do with you, you become more hated than the people they were fighting.

The various factions over there have been fighting over who the magic man in the sky loves best for centuries... Seriously, we were going to change that?

Christianity had a reformation.

Do you think brown people are incapable of becoming civilized?

Why are you bringing race into it? Oh wait. Forgot who I was talking to for a second.

Okay, exactly how are we going to "civilize" them by blowing up their homes and stealing their resources?

It strikes me our idiotic policies have actually created more fanaticism, not less.

Case in point. Iran. Nice Democratically elected Prime Minister in 1953 overthrew the Shah. Well the CIA and British Petroleum weren't having any of that shit. They staged a counter coup and put the Shat back in power, and the Shah spent the next 25 years executing anyone who was a liberal, democratically minded Iranian, leaving the crazy Mullahs the only oppossition to his rule. Now, how did that work out again.

Oh, yeah. All Jimmy Carter's fault. It's right here on page #436 of the "Right Wing Excuses for Everything." I still have my copy.

 

[daveman]

Wow. You're a raving lunatic.

But thanks for highlighting that in addition to your other irrational hatreds, you hate Jews, too.

Pointing out their stupidity is hardly hate. It's just pointing out stupidity. If I lived in a neighborhood where my neighbors hated me so much they strapped bombs onto their kids in attempts to kill me while I was out barbequing, I'd be calling the realtor and getting the hell out of there.

I certainly wouldn't stay there for 65 years because an imaginary man in the sky told me to.

Why are they attacking England and France and Spain?

You mean members of NATO who have assisted in our attacks, and have had a history of invading those regions themselves? (All three nations you cited have colonized parts of the Islamic World until they were driven out.) Yeah, can't see why they'd attack them at all.



Well, I didn't see Communists flying planes into buildings. Or strapping bombs onto their kids. or doing any of that silly shit the Jihadists are doing.

No, they just killed a hundred million people.

Some people don't see anything wrong with that.

Prediction: You will dispute this figure, because it doesn't mesh with your "The US is the source of all evil" mindset.

Tough shit.

It strikes me that if you involve yourself in fights that really have nothing to do with you, you become more hated than the people they were fighting.

The various factions over there have been fighting over who the magic man in the sky loves best for centuries... Seriously, we were going to change that?

Christianity had a reformation.

Do you think brown people are incapable of becoming civilized?

Why are you bringing race into it? Oh wait. Forgot who I was talking to for a second.

Don't project your own racism on me. Because you've NEVER been able to link to a single post of mine that proves I'm a racist like you claim.

NEVER.

Okay, exactly how are we going to "civilize" them by blowing up their homes and stealing their resources?

It strikes me our idiotic policies have actually created more fanaticism, not less.

Case in point. Iran. Nice Democratically elected Prime Minister in 1953 overthrew the Shah. Well the CIA and British Petroleum weren't having any of that shit. They staged a counter coup and put the Shat back in power, and the Shah spent the next 25 years executing anyone who was a liberal, democratically minded Iranian, leaving the crazy Mullahs the only oppossition to his rule. Now, how did that work out again.

Oh, yeah. All Jimmy Carter's fault. It's right here on page #436 of the "Right Wing Excuses for Everything." I still have my copy.

Yeah. Look at Iran now. Do you think that's a great society?

You probably even believe their "we want nuclear power only for electricity" bullshit, too, don't you?

 

[Tilon]

the right has run on its southern strategy since the civil rights act was signed. most people understand that. when you talk about "law and order" and "food stamp president", everyone knows what images that's supposed to conjure up. there have certainly been enough republican operatives who discussed it... it's why the GOP has a gender gap, a race gap and an age gap.

the hysterics that accompanied this president's election was unlike anything we've ever seen... not even when our president got appointed by the court in 2000 did you see this type of vitriole (we're not talking about AFTER Bush implemented his failed policies...we're talking about the day after election day). I'd also point out that at a time of crisis, most of the country stood behind bush. (i think his approval rating was some ridiculously high number after his post-9/11 speech at the cathedral).

with this president, all we've heard about is that he's a muslimkenyansocialistfasict and had his harvard credentials questioned... because, you know, it's that whole affirmative action thing....

so yes, a lot of it is about racism. bashir may not be 100% correct, but the right certainly opened the door to his conclusions.

Go look up who elected Jimmy Carter in 1976. THE SOUTH. I thought the parties switched after the 60s, hmm? How do you explain that? Additionally, a lot of local politics in the south still leans to the Democrat party. See, the "parties switched" myth is just that. Myth.

What actually happened is that Reagan brought over many southern democrats to vote for him. That's why they're called REAGAN DEMOCRATS.

If the parties switched, why did you have a grand Cyclops named Robert Byrd in the Democrat party until 2010? Why didn't he switch parties, hmmmmmm?

You have no answer. This whole party switch myth is yet another smokescreen the democrats use to hide their sordid past.