There is something seriously warped about this Duggar statement

I had an aunt who was born again in the Church of Christ, when she was in the 8th grade. She spent the rest of her life making judgments about everyone else's morality. She did charity work, for people she never met, sewing clothes, and things like that, but she could not get along with anyone she knew. When she died, only her son and two friends came to her funeral. Her son, my cousin, tells me that the damage that she did to his life in irreparable. Even her own sister refused to have anything to do with her. She wrote off our entire branch of the family 30 years before she died, and never spoke to us again. To the very end, she believed that she was one of the few who would spend eternity in heaven.

It was quite sad, really.
I am generally tolerant, initially, if someone says they are religious, Christian, etc. I give them the benefit of the doubt because I know there are good Christians, that is they are just as good as any good person and, as Christians, do their best to adhere to the true tenets of their religion.

In the job I'm in now, in my first year, I worked with two women who said they were Christians, who spoke of being religious and of going to church. I believed they were good people as that is the way they presented themselves. I was very friendly with them because I believed they were good people. Both of them totally fucked me over during that year, worse than most people in my entire life have, one of them after I had spent a couple of hours the day before on my computer doing research for her to help her in her job: she was new that year too. The other one was downright cruel to me for no reason and completely betrayed what I thought was a friendship. Sad to say, far more often than not, so called Christians are the most self centered, dishonest, vicious people going. That was the last time I have given any religious person the benefit of the doubt. From now on, they need to prove without doubt they are good people or I don't believe them.

This forum shows over and over again that many of those who claim to be Christians or godly people are nothing of the kind.
Have you ever though it was you? Your contempt for Christians was obvious from the first post you sent to me writing things that I did not post and questioning my intelligence with insults.



I could be wrong, but I think that contempt is directed specifically at you.

You are probably correct, although my experience with Christians is the polar opposite of hers and yours. I pity both of you rather than hold you in contempt.

There are a helluva lot more hypocrites sitting at home watching the Sunday morning TV shows than there are in Church. There are a few hypocrites in Church on Sunday, but most of them know they are sinners and are looking for repentance and a way to overcome their sins through Christ.
Some succeed, some don't. It is that simple.


And some have swallowed every word mentioned by the politically minded religious right-wing and don't try to find out what the Bible really says. They have misinterpreted what the Bible says and are actually doing the opposite of what Jesus taught. Fact.
 
What you said is what a pussy would do. He is married, has three children and no one has accused him of any sexual abuse in 12 years. I suspect you would also want him to say he is in favor of same-sex marriage.
Would you want him living next to you if you have small daughters? Would you let your daughters go to sleepovers at his house?

I raised three daughters and two sons and I would certainly let them go to a sleepover at the Duggar house. He isn't a sexually curios teenager anymore.


Nope, he's a clever adult who may have figured out how to keep his victims quiet and his own mouth shut.

There are fools that think Josh Duggar hasn't been under close and constant monitoring for the last 12 years and you are one of those.


By who? The same people that are covering up for him? That's great monitoring.....I'd rather have a court investigation.

Of course you would.
 
I had an aunt who was born again in the Church of Christ, when she was in the 8th grade. She spent the rest of her life making judgments about everyone else's morality. She did charity work, for people she never met, sewing clothes, and things like that, but she could not get along with anyone she knew. When she died, only her son and two friends came to her funeral. Her son, my cousin, tells me that the damage that she did to his life in irreparable. Even her own sister refused to have anything to do with her. She wrote off our entire branch of the family 30 years before she died, and never spoke to us again. To the very end, she believed that she was one of the few who would spend eternity in heaven.

It was quite sad, really.
I am generally tolerant, initially, if someone says they are religious, Christian, etc. I give them the benefit of the doubt because I know there are good Christians, that is they are just as good as any good person and, as Christians, do their best to adhere to the true tenets of their religion.

In the job I'm in now, in my first year, I worked with two women who said they were Christians, who spoke of being religious and of going to church. I believed they were good people as that is the way they presented themselves. I was very friendly with them because I believed they were good people. Both of them totally fucked me over during that year, worse than most people in my entire life have, one of them after I had spent a couple of hours the day before on my computer doing research for her to help her in her job: she was new that year too. The other one was downright cruel to me for no reason and completely betrayed what I thought was a friendship. Sad to say, far more often than not, so called Christians are the most self centered, dishonest, vicious people going. That was the last time I have given any religious person the benefit of the doubt. From now on, they need to prove without doubt they are good people or I don't believe them.

This forum shows over and over again that many of those who claim to be Christians or godly people are nothing of the kind.
Have you ever though it was you? Your contempt for Christians was obvious from the first post you sent to me writing things that I did not post and questioning my intelligence with insults.
No, it wasn't me at all. I never said anything but encouraging and supportive things about their religion. I was, at that time, fully giving people the benefit of the doubt about being true Christians. In fact, I don't discuss religion with people one way or another. It wasn't me at all. Both of them are no longer with the company. One was fired for being so incompetent and one left after only 2 years.
 
Nope, he's a clever adult who may have figured out how to keep his victims quiet and his own mouth shut.

There are fools that think Josh Duggar hasn't been under close and constant monitoring for the last 12 years and you are one of those.



Why would he need to be under constant monitoring?

Because of his disgusting actions with his sisters 12 years ago.



And this is the man you said you'd feel fine leaving your children with? Wowza!

That man is married and has three children. He has lived an exemplary life under a microscope for 12 years. The answer is still yes, and I would feel a lot more comfortable with him than some others I know.


If Duggar had never admitted to his parents that he had molested his sisters, the parents would vouch that Duggar was living an exemplary life as a teen. You really don't know what he has been doing for 12 years....just because he is married doesn't mean he no longer has the urge to fondle children.

I hope he is all that you say, but why should we just take your word or that of his parents/wife whose main interest is keeping Josh Duggar from being investigated or punished?
 
I had an aunt who was born again in the Church of Christ, when she was in the 8th grade. She spent the rest of her life making judgments about everyone else's morality. She did charity work, for people she never met, sewing clothes, and things like that, but she could not get along with anyone she knew. When she died, only her son and two friends came to her funeral. Her son, my cousin, tells me that the damage that she did to his life in irreparable. Even her own sister refused to have anything to do with her. She wrote off our entire branch of the family 30 years before she died, and never spoke to us again. To the very end, she believed that she was one of the few who would spend eternity in heaven.

It was quite sad, really.
I am generally tolerant, initially, if someone says they are religious, Christian, etc. I give them the benefit of the doubt because I know there are good Christians, that is they are just as good as any good person and, as Christians, do their best to adhere to the true tenets of their religion.

In the job I'm in now, in my first year, I worked with two women who said they were Christians, who spoke of being religious and of going to church. I believed they were good people as that is the way they presented themselves. I was very friendly with them because I believed they were good people. Both of them totally fucked me over during that year, worse than most people in my entire life have, one of them after I had spent a couple of hours the day before on my computer doing research for her to help her in her job: she was new that year too. The other one was downright cruel to me for no reason and completely betrayed what I thought was a friendship. Sad to say, far more often than not, so called Christians are the most self centered, dishonest, vicious people going. That was the last time I have given any religious person the benefit of the doubt. From now on, they need to prove without doubt they are good people or I don't believe them.

This forum shows over and over again that many of those who claim to be Christians or godly people are nothing of the kind.
Have you ever though it was you? Your contempt for Christians was obvious from the first post you sent to me writing things that I did not post and questioning my intelligence with insults.



I could be wrong, but I think that contempt is directed specifically at you.

You are probably correct, although my experience with Christians is the polar opposite of hers and yours. I pity both of you rather than hold you in contempt.

There are a helluva lot more hypocrites sitting at home watching the Sunday morning TV shows than there are in Church. There are a few hypocrites in Church on Sunday, but most of them know they are sinners and are looking for repentance and a way to overcome their sins through Christ.
Some succeed, some don't. It is that simple.


Well that's pretty fucking arrogant that you would pity us, and that's why people are starting to dislike Christians that have the same attitude.

And the reason I pity you is because you are not only a close minded, but a simple minded twit.
 
Just exactly what do you suggest that he should do?
Come out and admit that he sexually molested at least 5 victims, 1 of which was 5 years old at the time of the abuse. He should also list the number of times he abused each victim, since the police report indicates multiple attacks. And he should return his complete salary from TLC, if any. He should go into an adult counseling program and be removed from his kids until a specialist certifies that he is no danger, sexual or otherwise, to them.

That's what a real man would do.

But Josh Duggar is not a real man. He's a pussy, an out and out pussy who is hiding behind his mama's apron and his papa's checkbook.

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What you said is what a pussy would do. He is married, has three children and no one has accused him of any sexual abuse in 12 years. I suspect you would also want him to say he is in favor of same-sex marriage.
Would you want him living next to you if you have small daughters? Would you let your daughters go to sleepovers at his house?

I raised three daughters and two sons and I would certainly let them go to a sleepover at the Duggar house. He isn't a sexually curios teenager anymore.



Yikes!
Yes, scary....kind of like those parents who let their kids have sleepovers at Michael Jackson's place.
 
Come out and admit that he sexually molested at least 5 victims, 1 of which was 5 years old at the time of the abuse. He should also list the number of times he abused each victim, since the police report indicates multiple attacks. And he should return his complete salary from TLC, if any. He should go into an adult counseling program and be removed from his kids until a specialist certifies that he is no danger, sexual or otherwise, to them.

That's what a real man would do.

But Josh Duggar is not a real man. He's a pussy, an out and out pussy who is hiding behind his mama's apron and his papa's checkbook.

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What you said is what a pussy would do. He is married, has three children and no one has accused him of any sexual abuse in 12 years. I suspect you would also want him to say he is in favor of same-sex marriage.
Would you want him living next to you if you have small daughters? Would you let your daughters go to sleepovers at his house?

I raised three daughters and two sons and I would certainly let them go to a sleepover at the Duggar house. He isn't a sexually curios teenager anymore.

I think that the less said about this post, the better.....

I agree. A Christian hater would be afraid to associate with a grown man with three kids of his own and a spotless record for the last 12 years.



A spotless record....LOL! But before that, he was a child molester.
 
I had an aunt who was born again in the Church of Christ, when she was in the 8th grade. She spent the rest of her life making judgments about everyone else's morality. She did charity work, for people she never met, sewing clothes, and things like that, but she could not get along with anyone she knew. When she died, only her son and two friends came to her funeral. Her son, my cousin, tells me that the damage that she did to his life in irreparable. Even her own sister refused to have anything to do with her. She wrote off our entire branch of the family 30 years before she died, and never spoke to us again. To the very end, she believed that she was one of the few who would spend eternity in heaven.

It was quite sad, really.
I am generally tolerant, initially, if someone says they are religious, Christian, etc. I give them the benefit of the doubt because I know there are good Christians, that is they are just as good as any good person and, as Christians, do their best to adhere to the true tenets of their religion.

In the job I'm in now, in my first year, I worked with two women who said they were Christians, who spoke of being religious and of going to church. I believed they were good people as that is the way they presented themselves. I was very friendly with them because I believed they were good people. Both of them totally fucked me over during that year, worse than most people in my entire life have, one of them after I had spent a couple of hours the day before on my computer doing research for her to help her in her job: she was new that year too. The other one was downright cruel to me for no reason and completely betrayed what I thought was a friendship. Sad to say, far more often than not, so called Christians are the most self centered, dishonest, vicious people going. That was the last time I have given any religious person the benefit of the doubt. From now on, they need to prove without doubt they are good people or I don't believe them.

This forum shows over and over again that many of those who claim to be Christians or godly people are nothing of the kind.
Have you ever though it was you? Your contempt for Christians was obvious from the first post you sent to me writing things that I did not post and questioning my intelligence with insults.
No, it wasn't me at all. I never said anything but encouraging and supportive things about their religion. I was, at that time, fully giving people the benefit of the doubt about being true Christians. In fact, I don't discuss religion with people one way or another. It wasn't me at all. Both of them are no longer with the company. One was fired for being so incompetent and one left after only 2 years.
I had an aunt who was born again in the Church of Christ, when she was in the 8th grade. She spent the rest of her life making judgments about everyone else's morality. She did charity work, for people she never met, sewing clothes, and things like that, but she could not get along with anyone she knew. When she died, only her son and two friends came to her funeral. Her son, my cousin, tells me that the damage that she did to his life in irreparable. Even her own sister refused to have anything to do with her. She wrote off our entire branch of the family 30 years before she died, and never spoke to us again. To the very end, she believed that she was one of the few who would spend eternity in heaven.

It was quite sad, really.
I am generally tolerant, initially, if someone says they are religious, Christian, etc. I give them the benefit of the doubt because I know there are good Christians, that is they are just as good as any good person and, as Christians, do their best to adhere to the true tenets of their religion.

In the job I'm in now, in my first year, I worked with two women who said they were Christians, who spoke of being religious and of going to church. I believed they were good people as that is the way they presented themselves. I was very friendly with them because I believed they were good people. Both of them totally fucked me over during that year, worse than most people in my entire life have, one of them after I had spent a couple of hours the day before on my computer doing research for her to help her in her job: she was new that year too. The other one was downright cruel to me for no reason and completely betrayed what I thought was a friendship. Sad to say, far more often than not, so called Christians are the most self centered, dishonest, vicious people going. That was the last time I have given any religious person the benefit of the doubt. From now on, they need to prove without doubt they are good people or I don't believe them.

This forum shows over and over again that many of those who claim to be Christians or godly people are nothing of the kind.
Have you ever though it was you? Your contempt for Christians was obvious from the first post you sent to me writing things that I did not post and questioning my intelligence with insults.



I could be wrong, but I think that contempt is directed specifically at you.

You are probably correct, although my experience with Christians is the polar opposite of hers and yours. I pity both of you rather than hold you in contempt.

There are a helluva lot more hypocrites sitting at home watching the Sunday morning TV shows than there are in Church. There are a few hypocrites in Church on Sunday, but most of them know they are sinners and are looking for repentance and a way to overcome their sins through Christ.
Some succeed, some don't. It is that simple.


Well that's pretty fucking arrogant that you would pity us, and that's why people are starting to dislike Christians that have the same attitude.

And the reason I pity you is because you are not only a close minded, but a simple minded twit.
This is one of the most offensive things about so called 'Christians.' Their self importance and self righteousness is appalling. There is nothing less Christian in my opinion. Christ said to be humble. There is nothing humble about someone who says they pity others for not seeing things their way. Arrogant, self-righteous twits. The meek shall inherit the earth. These folks don't have a clue what that means.
 
I had an aunt who was born again in the Church of Christ, when she was in the 8th grade. She spent the rest of her life making judgments about everyone else's morality. She did charity work, for people she never met, sewing clothes, and things like that, but she could not get along with anyone she knew. When she died, only her son and two friends came to her funeral. Her son, my cousin, tells me that the damage that she did to his life in irreparable. Even her own sister refused to have anything to do with her. She wrote off our entire branch of the family 30 years before she died, and never spoke to us again. To the very end, she believed that she was one of the few who would spend eternity in heaven.

It was quite sad, really.
I am generally tolerant, initially, if someone says they are religious, Christian, etc. I give them the benefit of the doubt because I know there are good Christians, that is they are just as good as any good person and, as Christians, do their best to adhere to the true tenets of their religion.

In the job I'm in now, in my first year, I worked with two women who said they were Christians, who spoke of being religious and of going to church. I believed they were good people as that is the way they presented themselves. I was very friendly with them because I believed they were good people. Both of them totally fucked me over during that year, worse than most people in my entire life have, one of them after I had spent a couple of hours the day before on my computer doing research for her to help her in her job: she was new that year too. The other one was downright cruel to me for no reason and completely betrayed what I thought was a friendship. Sad to say, far more often than not, so called Christians are the most self centered, dishonest, vicious people going. That was the last time I have given any religious person the benefit of the doubt. From now on, they need to prove without doubt they are good people or I don't believe them.

This forum shows over and over again that many of those who claim to be Christians or godly people are nothing of the kind.
Have you ever though it was you? Your contempt for Christians was obvious from the first post you sent to me writing things that I did not post and questioning my intelligence with insults.
No, it wasn't me at all. I never said anything but encouraging and supportive things about their religion. I was, at that time, fully giving people the benefit of the doubt about being true Christians. In fact, I don't discuss religion with people one way or another. It wasn't me at all. Both of them are no longer with the company. One was fired for being so incompetent and one left after only 2 years.
I am generally tolerant, initially, if someone says they are religious, Christian, etc. I give them the benefit of the doubt because I know there are good Christians, that is they are just as good as any good person and, as Christians, do their best to adhere to the true tenets of their religion.

In the job I'm in now, in my first year, I worked with two women who said they were Christians, who spoke of being religious and of going to church. I believed they were good people as that is the way they presented themselves. I was very friendly with them because I believed they were good people. Both of them totally fucked me over during that year, worse than most people in my entire life have, one of them after I had spent a couple of hours the day before on my computer doing research for her to help her in her job: she was new that year too. The other one was downright cruel to me for no reason and completely betrayed what I thought was a friendship. Sad to say, far more often than not, so called Christians are the most self centered, dishonest, vicious people going. That was the last time I have given any religious person the benefit of the doubt. From now on, they need to prove without doubt they are good people or I don't believe them.

This forum shows over and over again that many of those who claim to be Christians or godly people are nothing of the kind.
Have you ever though it was you? Your contempt for Christians was obvious from the first post you sent to me writing things that I did not post and questioning my intelligence with insults.



I could be wrong, but I think that contempt is directed specifically at you.

You are probably correct, although my experience with Christians is the polar opposite of hers and yours. I pity both of you rather than hold you in contempt.

There are a helluva lot more hypocrites sitting at home watching the Sunday morning TV shows than there are in Church. There are a few hypocrites in Church on Sunday, but most of them know they are sinners and are looking for repentance and a way to overcome their sins through Christ.
Some succeed, some don't. It is that simple.


Well that's pretty fucking arrogant that you would pity us, and that's why people are starting to dislike Christians that have the same attitude.

And the reason I pity you is because you are not only a close minded, but a simple minded twit.
This is one of the most offensive things about so called 'Christians.' Their self importance and self righteousness is appalling. There is nothing less Christian in my opinion. Christ said to be humble. There is nothing humble about someone who says they pity others for not seeing things their way. Arrogant, self-righteous twits. The meek shall inherit the earth. These folks don't have a clue what that means.


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Would you want him living next to you if you have small daughters? Would you let your daughters go to sleepovers at his house?

I raised three daughters and two sons and I would certainly let them go to a sleepover at the Duggar house. He isn't a sexually curios teenager anymore.


Nope, he's a clever adult who may have figured out how to keep his victims quiet and his own mouth shut.

There are fools that think Josh Duggar hasn't been under close and constant monitoring for the last 12 years and you are one of those.



Why would he need to be under constant monitoring?

Because of his disgusting actions with his sisters 12 years ago.
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Seriously, you just don't get it.
 
I had an aunt who was born again in the Church of Christ, when she was in the 8th grade. She spent the rest of her life making judgments about everyone else's morality. She did charity work, for people she never met, sewing clothes, and things like that, but she could not get along with anyone she knew. When she died, only her son and two friends came to her funeral. Her son, my cousin, tells me that the damage that she did to his life in irreparable. Even her own sister refused to have anything to do with her. She wrote off our entire branch of the family 30 years before she died, and never spoke to us again. To the very end, she believed that she was one of the few who would spend eternity in heaven.

It was quite sad, really.
I am generally tolerant, initially, if someone says they are religious, Christian, etc. I give them the benefit of the doubt because I know there are good Christians, that is they are just as good as any good person and, as Christians, do their best to adhere to the true tenets of their religion.

In the job I'm in now, in my first year, I worked with two women who said they were Christians, who spoke of being religious and of going to church. I believed they were good people as that is the way they presented themselves. I was very friendly with them because I believed they were good people. Both of them totally fucked me over during that year, worse than most people in my entire life have, one of them after I had spent a couple of hours the day before on my computer doing research for her to help her in her job: she was new that year too. The other one was downright cruel to me for no reason and completely betrayed what I thought was a friendship. Sad to say, far more often than not, so called Christians are the most self centered, dishonest, vicious people going. That was the last time I have given any religious person the benefit of the doubt. From now on, they need to prove without doubt they are good people or I don't believe them.

This forum shows over and over again that many of those who claim to be Christians or godly people are nothing of the kind.
Have you ever though it was you? Your contempt for Christians was obvious from the first post you sent to me writing things that I did not post and questioning my intelligence with insults.

I know this was directed at Esmeralda, but it could just have just as well been addressed to me, so I will answer, too. In view of the fact that her feud was with my mother and my older brother, and that I was only 12 years old, and we lived in separate states, and I had been seeing her only 3 weeks per year, no, I don't think it was because of me. And BTW. My mother never said an unkind word to my aunt. My aunt just came to the conclusion that my alcoholic father killed himself, and that , somehow, my mother who was to blame.
 
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I had an aunt who was born again in the Church of Christ, when she was in the 8th grade. She spent the rest of her life making judgments about everyone else's morality. She did charity work, for people she never met, sewing clothes, and things like that, but she could not get along with anyone she knew. When she died, only her son and two friends came to her funeral. Her son, my cousin, tells me that the damage that she did to his life in irreparable. Even her own sister refused to have anything to do with her. She wrote off our entire branch of the family 30 years before she died, and never spoke to us again. To the very end, she believed that she was one of the few who would spend eternity in heaven.

It was quite sad, really.
I am generally tolerant, initially, if someone says they are religious, Christian, etc. I give them the benefit of the doubt because I know there are good Christians, that is they are just as good as any good person and, as Christians, do their best to adhere to the true tenets of their religion.

In the job I'm in now, in my first year, I worked with two women who said they were Christians, who spoke of being religious and of going to church. I believed they were good people as that is the way they presented themselves. I was very friendly with them because I believed they were good people. Both of them totally fucked me over during that year, worse than most people in my entire life have, one of them after I had spent a couple of hours the day before on my computer doing research for her to help her in her job: she was new that year too. The other one was downright cruel to me for no reason and completely betrayed what I thought was a friendship. Sad to say, far more often than not, so called Christians are the most self centered, dishonest, vicious people going. That was the last time I have given any religious person the benefit of the doubt. From now on, they need to prove without doubt they are good people or I don't believe them.

This forum shows over and over again that many of those who claim to be Christians or godly people are nothing of the kind.
Have you ever though it was you? Your contempt for Christians was obvious from the first post you sent to me writing things that I did not post and questioning my intelligence with insults.

Well, in view of the fact that her feud was with my mother and my older brother, and that I was only 12 years old, and we lived in separate states, and I had been seeing her only 3 weeks per year, no, I don't think it was because of me. And BTW. My mother never said an unkind word to my aunt. My aunt just came to the conclusion that my alcoholic father killed himself, and that , somehow, my mother who was to blame.
Well, when it comes to Christians, if anything goes wrong, don't ya know, it is always the other person's fault, most especially if they are not Christian.
 
Come out and admit that he sexually molested at least 5 victims, 1 of which was 5 years old at the time of the abuse. He should also list the number of times he abused each victim, since the police report indicates multiple attacks. And he should return his complete salary from TLC, if any. He should go into an adult counseling program and be removed from his kids until a specialist certifies that he is no danger, sexual or otherwise, to them.

That's what a real man would do.

But Josh Duggar is not a real man. He's a pussy, an out and out pussy who is hiding behind his mama's apron and his papa's checkbook.

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What you said is what a pussy would do. He is married, has three children and no one has accused him of any sexual abuse in 12 years. I suspect you would also want him to say he is in favor of same-sex marriage.
Would you want him living next to you if you have small daughters? Would you let your daughters go to sleepovers at his house?

I raised three daughters and two sons and I would certainly let them go to a sleepover at the Duggar house. He isn't a sexually curios teenager anymore.


Nope, he's a clever adult who may have figured out how to keep his victims quiet and his own mouth shut.

There are fools that think Josh Duggar hasn't been under close and constant monitoring for the last 12 years and you are one of those.
And there are fools who think he has been.
 
The one thing that I have learned about Christianity is that the best Christians are the ones who never say a word about their religion. I am close friends with a guy like that. He lives a good life, and one knows very quickly that he is a man of principle. He has no vices that I know of. He doesn't gossip. He devotes time and energy to charity. The only way that I know that he is a devoted Christian is through his friends that go to church with him. If they had not told me, I would have never known that he was a follower of Christ. i would have just assumed that he was a man of character.
 
I had an aunt who was born again in the Church of Christ, when she was in the 8th grade. She spent the rest of her life making judgments about everyone else's morality. She did charity work, for people she never met, sewing clothes, and things like that, but she could not get along with anyone she knew. When she died, only her son and two friends came to her funeral. Her son, my cousin, tells me that the damage that she did to his life in irreparable. Even her own sister refused to have anything to do with her. She wrote off our entire branch of the family 30 years before she died, and never spoke to us again. To the very end, she believed that she was one of the few who would spend eternity in heaven.

It was quite sad, really.
I am generally tolerant, initially, if someone says they are religious, Christian, etc. I give them the benefit of the doubt because I know there are good Christians, that is they are just as good as any good person and, as Christians, do their best to adhere to the true tenets of their religion.

In the job I'm in now, in my first year, I worked with two women who said they were Christians, who spoke of being religious and of going to church. I believed they were good people as that is the way they presented themselves. I was very friendly with them because I believed they were good people. Both of them totally fucked me over during that year, worse than most people in my entire life have, one of them after I had spent a couple of hours the day before on my computer doing research for her to help her in her job: she was new that year too. The other one was downright cruel to me for no reason and completely betrayed what I thought was a friendship. Sad to say, far more often than not, so called Christians are the most self centered, dishonest, vicious people going. That was the last time I have given any religious person the benefit of the doubt. From now on, they need to prove without doubt they are good people or I don't believe them.

This forum shows over and over again that many of those who claim to be Christians or godly people are nothing of the kind.
Have you ever though it was you? Your contempt for Christians was obvious from the first post you sent to me writing things that I did not post and questioning my intelligence with insults.



I could be wrong, but I think that contempt is directed specifically at you.

You are probably correct, although my experience with Christians is the polar opposite of hers and yours. I pity both of you rather than hold you in contempt.

There are a helluva lot more hypocrites sitting at home watching the Sunday morning TV shows than there are in Church. There are a few hypocrites in Church on Sunday, but most of them know they are sinners and are looking for repentance and a way to overcome their sins through Christ.
Some succeed, some don't. It is that simple.


And some have swallowed every word mentioned by the politically minded religious right-wing and don't try to find out what the Bible really says. They have misinterpreted what the Bible says and are actually doing the opposite of what Jesus taught. Fact.

I read somewhere that the forgiveness of sins was important. What did you read in your Bible that said different.
 
Come out and admit that he sexually molested at least 5 victims, 1 of which was 5 years old at the time of the abuse. He should also list the number of times he abused each victim, since the police report indicates multiple attacks. And he should return his complete salary from TLC, if any. He should go into an adult counseling program and be removed from his kids until a specialist certifies that he is no danger, sexual or otherwise, to them.

That's what a real man would do.

But Josh Duggar is not a real man. He's a pussy, an out and out pussy who is hiding behind his mama's apron and his papa's checkbook.

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What you said is what a pussy would do. He is married, has three children and no one has accused him of any sexual abuse in 12 years. I suspect you would also want him to say he is in favor of same-sex marriage.
Would you want him living next to you if you have small daughters? Would you let your daughters go to sleepovers at his house?

I raised three daughters and two sons and I would certainly let them go to a sleepover at the Duggar house. He isn't a sexually curios teenager anymore.



Yikes!
Yes, scary....kind of like those parents who let their kids have sleepovers at Michael Jackson's place.

How many daughters did Jackson have?
 
I had an aunt who was born again in the Church of Christ, when she was in the 8th grade. She spent the rest of her life making judgments about everyone else's morality. She did charity work, for people she never met, sewing clothes, and things like that, but she could not get along with anyone she knew. When she died, only her son and two friends came to her funeral. Her son, my cousin, tells me that the damage that she did to his life in irreparable. Even her own sister refused to have anything to do with her. She wrote off our entire branch of the family 30 years before she died, and never spoke to us again. To the very end, she believed that she was one of the few who would spend eternity in heaven.

It was quite sad, really.
I am generally tolerant, initially, if someone says they are religious, Christian, etc. I give them the benefit of the doubt because I know there are good Christians, that is they are just as good as any good person and, as Christians, do their best to adhere to the true tenets of their religion.

In the job I'm in now, in my first year, I worked with two women who said they were Christians, who spoke of being religious and of going to church. I believed they were good people as that is the way they presented themselves. I was very friendly with them because I believed they were good people. Both of them totally fucked me over during that year, worse than most people in my entire life have, one of them after I had spent a couple of hours the day before on my computer doing research for her to help her in her job: she was new that year too. The other one was downright cruel to me for no reason and completely betrayed what I thought was a friendship. Sad to say, far more often than not, so called Christians are the most self centered, dishonest, vicious people going. That was the last time I have given any religious person the benefit of the doubt. From now on, they need to prove without doubt they are good people or I don't believe them.

This forum shows over and over again that many of those who claim to be Christians or godly people are nothing of the kind.
Have you ever though it was you? Your contempt for Christians was obvious from the first post you sent to me writing things that I did not post and questioning my intelligence with insults.



I could be wrong, but I think that contempt is directed specifically at you.

You are probably correct, although my experience with Christians is the polar opposite of hers and yours. I pity both of you rather than hold you in contempt.

There are a helluva lot more hypocrites sitting at home watching the Sunday morning TV shows than there are in Church. There are a few hypocrites in Church on Sunday, but most of them know they are sinners and are looking for repentance and a way to overcome their sins through Christ.
Some succeed, some don't. It is that simple.


Well that's pretty fucking arrogant that you would pity us, and that's why people are starting to dislike Christians that have the same attitude.

And the reason I pity you is because you are not only a close minded, but a simple minded twit.

Save your pity for someone that needs it. You Christian haters are rather disgusting to me.
 
I had an aunt who was born again in the Church of Christ, when she was in the 8th grade. She spent the rest of her life making judgments about everyone else's morality. She did charity work, for people she never met, sewing clothes, and things like that, but she could not get along with anyone she knew. When she died, only her son and two friends came to her funeral. Her son, my cousin, tells me that the damage that she did to his life in irreparable. Even her own sister refused to have anything to do with her. She wrote off our entire branch of the family 30 years before she died, and never spoke to us again. To the very end, she believed that she was one of the few who would spend eternity in heaven.

It was quite sad, really.
I am generally tolerant, initially, if someone says they are religious, Christian, etc. I give them the benefit of the doubt because I know there are good Christians, that is they are just as good as any good person and, as Christians, do their best to adhere to the true tenets of their religion.

In the job I'm in now, in my first year, I worked with two women who said they were Christians, who spoke of being religious and of going to church. I believed they were good people as that is the way they presented themselves. I was very friendly with them because I believed they were good people. Both of them totally fucked me over during that year, worse than most people in my entire life have, one of them after I had spent a couple of hours the day before on my computer doing research for her to help her in her job: she was new that year too. The other one was downright cruel to me for no reason and completely betrayed what I thought was a friendship. Sad to say, far more often than not, so called Christians are the most self centered, dishonest, vicious people going. That was the last time I have given any religious person the benefit of the doubt. From now on, they need to prove without doubt they are good people or I don't believe them.

This forum shows over and over again that many of those who claim to be Christians or godly people are nothing of the kind.
Have you ever though it was you? Your contempt for Christians was obvious from the first post you sent to me writing things that I did not post and questioning my intelligence with insults.
No, it wasn't me at all. I never said anything but encouraging and supportive things about their religion. I was, at that time, fully giving people the benefit of the doubt about being true Christians. In fact, I don't discuss religion with people one way or another. It wasn't me at all. Both of them are no longer with the company. One was fired for being so incompetent and one left after only 2 years.
I am generally tolerant, initially, if someone says they are religious, Christian, etc. I give them the benefit of the doubt because I know there are good Christians, that is they are just as good as any good person and, as Christians, do their best to adhere to the true tenets of their religion.

In the job I'm in now, in my first year, I worked with two women who said they were Christians, who spoke of being religious and of going to church. I believed they were good people as that is the way they presented themselves. I was very friendly with them because I believed they were good people. Both of them totally fucked me over during that year, worse than most people in my entire life have, one of them after I had spent a couple of hours the day before on my computer doing research for her to help her in her job: she was new that year too. The other one was downright cruel to me for no reason and completely betrayed what I thought was a friendship. Sad to say, far more often than not, so called Christians are the most self centered, dishonest, vicious people going. That was the last time I have given any religious person the benefit of the doubt. From now on, they need to prove without doubt they are good people or I don't believe them.

This forum shows over and over again that many of those who claim to be Christians or godly people are nothing of the kind.
Have you ever though it was you? Your contempt for Christians was obvious from the first post you sent to me writing things that I did not post and questioning my intelligence with insults.



I could be wrong, but I think that contempt is directed specifically at you.

You are probably correct, although my experience with Christians is the polar opposite of hers and yours. I pity both of you rather than hold you in contempt.

There are a helluva lot more hypocrites sitting at home watching the Sunday morning TV shows than there are in Church. There are a few hypocrites in Church on Sunday, but most of them know they are sinners and are looking for repentance and a way to overcome their sins through Christ.
Some succeed, some don't. It is that simple.


Well that's pretty fucking arrogant that you would pity us, and that's why people are starting to dislike Christians that have the same attitude.

And the reason I pity you is because you are not only a close minded, but a simple minded twit.
This is one of the most offensive things about so called 'Christians.' Their self importance and self righteousness is appalling. There is nothing less Christian in my opinion. Christ said to be humble. There is nothing humble about someone who says they pity others for not seeing things their way. Arrogant, self-righteous twits. The meek shall inherit the earth. These folks don't have a clue what that means.

As usual you got it wrong. I pity you for not accepting Christ in your life. Nothing self-righteous about that.
 

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