The Weakness Of Science -- Trying To Explain The Life Spirit

[Hale]

Are viruses alive?

A better question might be "Are you alive?" But seriously, prove Pasteur wrong, and generate even a virus from sterile matter. Then you'll have a case for your "abiogenesis". Bottom line, you cannot.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Evolution is a fact

Evolution the theory and the correct explanation for the origin of all species. You just denied that fact. No, you do not believe in evolution. Sorry ya fraud, you don't get to have it both ways

 

[Frannie]

Evolution is a fact

Evolution the theory and the correct explanation for the origin of all species. You just denied that fact. No, you do not believe in evolution. Sorry ya fraud, you don't get to have it both ways

Evolution does not explain the origin of life, nor does it explain the cambrian life explosion where a massive amount of new species appeared in the fossil record instantaneously. Evolution does not turn a jellyfish into a human, if it did THERE WOULD BE NO JELLYFISH

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Evolution does not explain the origin of life,

Nobody said it did, and it isn't meant to do so anyway.

Cretaceous life explosion where a massive amount of new species appeared in the fossil record instantaneously.

No scientist has ever made such a claim of instantaneity. That's completely madeup bullshit. Those species still took a long time to appear.

Evolution does not turn a jellyfish into a human

Right, it turns something very much like a human into a human. And before that, it turned something very much like the prehuman into the prehuman. And so on and so forth, right back to the first life.

The things you are saying are nonsensical.

 

[Frannie]

Evolution does not explain the origin of life,

Nobody said it did, and it isn't meant to do so anyway.

Cretaceous life explosion where a massive amount of new species appeared in the fossil record instantaneously.

No scientist has ever made such a claim of instantaneity. That's completely madeup bullshit. Those species still took a long time to appear.

Evolution does not turn a jellyfish into a human

Right, it turns something very much like a human into a human. And before that, it turned something very much like the prehuman into the prehuman. And so on and so forth, right back to the first life.

The things you are saying are nonsensical.

Professor Johnathan Wells of Berkeley on the impossibility of evolution

 

[james bond]

People spend a lot of their lives doing things, but there is a question that is in the back of their minds such as why did God create us? Or why are we here?

The answer to why God created us is for his pleasure. "Worthy are you, our Lord and God, to receive glory and honor and power, for you created all things, and by your will they existed and were created." Revelation 4:11

Even though we are here for "his pleasure," it does not mean that we are entertainers or we are beings to play with for his amusement. What it means is God is a creative being and creating us is part of being creative. If we create things, then it gives us pleasure and a feeling of accomplishment. God is also a personal being, so it gives him pleasure to have a relationship with his creation as we have pleasure in having a relationship with our relatives and friends.

The Bible says that we were made in the image and likeness of God so that we have the ability to know, love, worship, serve and have fellowship with him. What does this mean? God is spirit, so we, too, are spirit. However, we are a spirit that has a body. God created the human body out of dust and blew the breath of life into it. This spirit is us and it is that which is in the image and likeness of God. Our bodies are physical and because of sin may not be perfect. It doesn't matter as it is only temporary as we all know that it will return to being dust once more. Yet, the spirit will live on. Will it be spiritually perfect or will it be spiritually dead and perish in the fire?

Science is a search for the truth, but today's science ignores the spirit or that which it cannot understand. It tries to explain away the spirit or life force as something that exists because the physical body exists. It's only living because the body is made up of cells that are living. Everything can be explained with the physical body and brain. This is the weakness and folly of science today. It does not recognize the spirit and only acknowledges the body and material world. They cannot explain God and why he created us nor adequately explain why we are here?

Science is a Method. I wouldn't ask a plumber to explain God.

Karl Popper on God.pdf

Greg

Yes, science is a method and the best is the scientific method as advocated by Sir Francis Bacon. He believed in God, creation, Genesis and thought science is to pay homage to God for his glorious works. What has Karl Popper done since you want him to speak for you?

 

[james bond]

Science can't explain Spirit, because Spirit is not physical. To a scientist, there is no discernible difference between a dead body and a live one.

This wasn't so before the 1850s. Scientists believed in the spirit of God. Secular science believed in an eternal universe and God. Of course, we found out that the universe was not eternal and had a beginning afterward.

 

[james bond]

People spend a lot of their lives doing things, but there is a question that is in the back of their minds such as why did God create us? Or why are we here?

The answer to why God created us is for his pleasure. "Worthy are you, our Lord and God, to receive glory and honor and power, for you created all things, and by your will they existed and were created." Revelation 4:11

Even though we are here for "his pleasure," it does not mean that we are entertainers or we are beings to play with for his amusement. What it means is God is a creative being and creating us is part of being creative. If we create things, then it gives us pleasure and a feeling of accomplishment. God is also a personal being, so it gives him pleasure to have a relationship with his creation as we have pleasure in having a relationship with our relatives and friends.

The Bible says that we were made in the image and likeness of God so that we have the ability to know, love, worship, serve and have fellowship with him. What does this mean? God is spirit, so we, too, are spirit. However, we are a spirit that has a body. God created the human body out of dust and blew the breath of life into it. This spirit is us and it is that which is in the image and likeness of God. Our bodies are physical and because of sin may not be perfect. It doesn't matter as it is only temporary as we all know that it will return to being dust once more. Yet, the spirit will live on. Will it be spiritually perfect or will it be spiritually dead and perish in the fire?

Science is a search for the truth, but today's science ignores the spirit or that which it cannot understand. It tries to explain away the spirit or life force as something that exists because the physical body exists. It's only living because the body is made up of cells that are living. Everything can be explained with the physical body and brain. This is the weakness and folly of science today. It does not recognize the spirit and only acknowledges the body and material world. They cannot explain God and why he created us nor adequately explain why we are here?

This fails as an appeal to authority fallacy.

This is the religion forum so we start with believing in God as the authority. Better to appeal to the ultimate authority than to stupid ones like Darwin, his cousin Frances Galton, Hitler and the like who ended up causing the holocaust.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Evolution does not explain the origin of life,

Nobody said it did, and it isn't meant to do so anyway.

Cretaceous life explosion where a massive amount of new species appeared in the fossil record instantaneously.

No scientist has ever made such a claim of instantaneity. That's completely madeup bullshit. Those species still took a long time to appear.

Evolution does not turn a jellyfish into a human

Right, it turns something very much like a human into a human. And before that, it turned something very much like the prehuman into the prehuman. And so on and so forth, right back to the first life.

The things you are saying are nonsensical.

Professor Johnathan Wells of Berkeley on the impossibility of evolution

I am not going to to watch a video you never watched and then spoonfeed its contents back to you .

And Jonathan Wells is a discredited crank and is not, nor was he ever, a professor at any University, anywhere.

 

[Hale]

In truth, Fort Fun Indiana has a lot more faith than he thinks. Here's why:

Evolution: When anti-religion folks use this term, they automatically include both "microevolution" and "macroevolution". They are in fact quite different:

• microevolution: changes within a species.
• macroevolution: transformation from one species into another.

"Micro" has been proven scientifically. "Macro" has NOT, and those who prescribe to it act in faith.

Abiogenesis: This is just a contemporary term for "spontaneous generation of life", a concept long disproved. Advances in technology suggest it might be possible, but those who count this as inevitable must do so through faith.

 

[Frannie]

Evolution does not explain the origin of life,

Nobody said it did, and it isn't meant to do so anyway.

Cretaceous life explosion where a massive amount of new species appeared in the fossil record instantaneously.

No scientist has ever made such a claim of instantaneity. That's completely madeup bullshit. Those species still took a long time to appear.

Evolution does not turn a jellyfish into a human

Right, it turns something very much like a human into a human. And before that, it turned something very much like the prehuman into the prehuman. And so on and so forth, right back to the first life.

The things you are saying are nonsensical.

Professor Johnathan Wells of Berkeley on the impossibility of evolution

I am not going to to watch a video you never watched and then spoonfeed its contents back to you .

And Jonathan Wells is a discredited crank and is not, nor was he ever, a professor at any University, anywhere.

This is you

Now reality
In 1994, Wells earned another PhD in molecular and cellular biology at UC Berkeley.[14] After receiving his doctorate, he worked at a position he described as "a post-doctoral research biologist at Berkeley, writing articles critical of Darwinism."[3] Shortly after that Wells joined former UC Berkeley law professor Phillip E. Johnson, father of the intelligent design movement, at the Discovery Institute.[13] He now serves as a fellow at the Discovery Institute's Center for Science and Culture,[21] the hub of the intelligent design movement, and at the International Society for Complexity, Information, and Design,[22] which also promotes intelligent design.[23]

Wells appeared on a panel at Harvard with Stephen Palumbi in November 2001, which his supporters lauded as a "home run".[24][25][26][27] Other observers stated that Wells' performance was "uneventful".[28]

Your religion ended with Darwin, nothing new is allowed...………..

Sad

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Evolution: When anti-religion folks use this term, they automatically include both "microevolution" and "macroevolution". They are in fact quite different:

But both evolution. And both must occur, I evolution as rhe origin of all species.

And you deny this. So, you are also an evolution denier. Glad we are all clear on that, now.

 

[Frannie]

Evolution: When anti-religion folks use this term, they automatically include both "microevolution" and "macroevolution". They are in fact quite different:

But both evolution. And both must occur, I evolution as rhe origin of all species.

And you deny this. So, you are also an evolution denier. Glad we are all clear on that, now.

Evolution is a process, not a point of origin

The end

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Evolution does not explain the origin of life,

Nobody said it did, and it isn't meant to do so anyway.

Cretaceous life explosion where a massive amount of new species appeared in the fossil record instantaneously.

No scientist has ever made such a claim of instantaneity. That's completely madeup bullshit. Those species still took a long time to appear.

Evolution does not turn a jellyfish into a human

Right, it turns something very much like a human into a human. And before that, it turned something very much like the prehuman into the prehuman. And so on and so forth, right back to the first life.

The things you are saying are nonsensical.

Professor Johnathan Wells of Berkeley on the impossibility of evolution

I am not going to to watch a video you never watched and then spoonfeed its contents back to you .

And Jonathan Wells is a discredited crank and is not, nor was he ever, a professor at any University, anywhere.

This is you

Now reality
In 1994, Wells earned another PhD in molecular and cellular biology at UC Berkeley.[14] After receiving his doctorate, he worked at a position he described as "a post-doctoral research biologist at Berkeley, writing articles critical of Darwinism."[3] Shortly after that Wells joined former UC Berkeley law professor Phillip E. Johnson, father of the intelligent design movement, at the Discovery Institute.[13] He now serves as a fellow at the Discovery Institute's Center for Science and Culture,[21] the hub of the intelligent design movement, and at the International Society for Complexity, Information, and Design,[22] which also promotes intelligent design.[23]

Wells appeared on a panel at Harvard with Stephen Palumbi in November 2001, which his supporters lauded as a "home run".[24][25][26][27] Other observers stated that Wells' performance was "uneventful".[28]

Your religion ended with Darwin, nothing new is allowed...………..

Sad

And was never a professor at any University anywhere. As I said. Because no scientific society or University department on the planet teaches anything to the contrary that evolution is a fact. Boy, that must sting.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Evolution is a process, not a point of origin

Correct. So? It is still the origin of the diversity of species from one common ancestor.

 

[Frannie]

Evolution does not explain the origin of life,

Nobody said it did, and it isn't meant to do so anyway.

Cretaceous life explosion where a massive amount of new species appeared in the fossil record instantaneously.

No scientist has ever made such a claim of instantaneity. That's completely madeup bullshit. Those species still took a long time to appear.

Evolution does not turn a jellyfish into a human

Right, it turns something very much like a human into a human. And before that, it turned something very much like the prehuman into the prehuman. And so on and so forth, right back to the first life.

The things you are saying are nonsensical.

Professor Johnathan Wells of Berkeley on the impossibility of evolution

I am not going to to watch a video you never watched and then spoonfeed its contents back to you .

And Jonathan Wells is a discredited crank and is not, nor was he ever, a professor at any University, anywhere.

This is you

Now reality
In 1994, Wells earned another PhD in molecular and cellular biology at UC Berkeley.[14] After receiving his doctorate, he worked at a position he described as "a post-doctoral research biologist at Berkeley, writing articles critical of Darwinism."[3] Shortly after that Wells joined former UC Berkeley law professor Phillip E. Johnson, father of the intelligent design movement, at the Discovery Institute.[13] He now serves as a fellow at the Discovery Institute's Center for Science and Culture,[21] the hub of the intelligent design movement, and at the International Society for Complexity, Information, and Design,[22] which also promotes intelligent design.[23]

Wells appeared on a panel at Harvard with Stephen Palumbi in November 2001, which his supporters lauded as a "home run".[24][25][26][27] Other observers stated that Wells' performance was "uneventful".[28]

Your religion ended with Darwin, nothing new is allowed...………..

Sad

And was never a professor at any University anywhere. As I said. Because no scientific society or University department in the planet teaches anything hut that evolution is a fact. Boy, that must sting.

How does nothing evolve into something.

Be specific, no Darwinian psychobabble

 

[Frannie]

Evolution is a process, not a point of origin

Correct. So? It is still the origin of the diversity of species from one common ancestor.

The process can not happen from nothing though can it.

Though I am beginning to believe that your brain is pond scum

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

How does nothing evolve into something.

What does that have to do with anything? Proteins "evolved" into other proteins, if that's the word you want to use. That's abiogenesis. Not "nothing into something".

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

The process can not happen from nothing though can it.

More nonsense about "nothing". All your other lame attempts have failed, so you have fallen back to your metaphysical "Alamo".

I don't claim to know how the universe arose form "nothing", or even to know that once there was nothing. I don't need to fall back on that for abiogenesis anymore than i do for star formation.

 

[Frannie]

How does nothing evolve into something.

What does that have to do with anything? Proteins "evolved" into other proteins, if that's the word you want to use. That's abiogenesis. Not "nothing into something".

Proteins are not nothing, so nothing could not evolve into a protein

LOL as if you could take me in a protein battle...……………….