The view from LONDON...democracy doesnt work in the US.

[Modbert]

What about the Vardy schools? I have called you out on this. Refer to post 95 for the quote of yours to which I am addressing my Q.

Separately, your black-and-white caricature of the US is disturbingly reminiscent of Bush terminology. Of the two demographics you have described through this thread, which demographic would you say thinks more in black and white? Does it not concern you that you share this quality with that demographic?

Psst Cali, how dare you throw logic and facts into the argument.

Don't you know that's the wrong thing to do.

 

[jla1178]

I think you might want to look at more recent history.. Britain has a parliament now.

Politically, yes. Culturally, they're still there.

 

[MichaelCollins]

Like the Vardy schools? At taxpayers expense?

Cali darling... i have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.

 

[jla1178]

1957 Corvette (in Stephen Coonts' "Flight of the Intruder" it was referenced as the "finest car ever made"), Ray Bradbury, Jack Kerouac, Ernest Hemingway, Joseph Wambaugh, Thomas Wolfe, Henry David Thoreau (okay off the literarcy kick), Al Oerter, the blues, Big Sur, Mickey Mouse, Reese's peanut butter cups, cherry pie, Bob Dylan, the ad campaigners that made Harley Davidson famous, Billy Crystal, the Hubble telescope and Bandag.

AND Jack Daniel's.

 

[Caligirl]

Cali darling... i have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.

You should really inform yourself about what your taxes are paying for.

Understandably, Professor Richard Dawkins is incensed at the idea of creationism being taught to children at the taxpayers' expense. However, many parents in Gateshead are unperturbed, and understandably more interested in good results than in details of the biology syllabus. Meanwhile, the motives of the Vardy Foundation are quite clear: a seamless combination of educating while exposing a new generation of souls to Christian evangelicalism. The case graphically shows up all the paradoxes of the government's current enthusiasm for faith schools. The Department of Education is fast finding itself in a quagmire of controversial judgments about what forms of religious education are acceptable and what are not.

You seem to have avoided the second part of my response (ie black and white). You are free to change your mindset and recognize that there is more diversity in the US than you are currently willing to admit.

 

[Bootneck]

Cali darling... i have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.

Not surprising really, since you don't know what YOU are talking about.

You should give up flaming Mr Collins and stick to masturbation. I'm sure you'd get more satisfaction.

What a Whiskey Alpha November Kilo Echo Romeo!

 

[MichaelCollins]

You should really inform yourself about what your taxes are paying for.



You seem to have avoided the second part of my response (ie black and white). You are free to change your mindset and recognize that there is more diversity in the US than you are currently willing to admit.

Ah...you found an exception to prove my rule...thank you for that.

There is no religion in the UK.... it died with education of the masses ...several generations ago.

 

[Navy1960]

You are extremely weird mate. Have you ever sought help?

Also, your english is so poor that it is very difficult to comprehend....is it your first language?

I have highlighted some of the numerous mistakes that my 5 year old nephew would be utterly ashamed to have made.

I rest and close my case about the state of education in the US.

You simply cannot have a serious debate with these people... All you can do is pity them......and try hard not to laugh at them.

I am very happy that you made my point for me Mr. Collins, because it's really not any of these people in this thread i'm talking about except you and perhaps the other person on here, that shares your views about the United States. You do need book's with big picture's and small word's , again i'm sure that assistance check will cover any remedial reading classes you want to attended there in London. However, to answer your question, as I have stated on many many occasions here, I am the worlds worst typist, completely guilty as charged. I have a suggestion though on that as well, if my typing bothers you so much, don't read it? Or , here is another one that comes to mind if my typing is so bad, how come you had the ability to answer my several other posts? Of course your not dishonest are you Mr. Collins? please say no? I would be completely crushed.

As for debating you, that's a laughable concept, you need to be able to understand the concept first Mr. Collins and that doesn't begin with making blanket *stupidass* statements in which you have no knowledge of at all. So when you go to Moscow and get your government education, they might just teach you a thing or two about he United States, and even the UK your soon to be former country.

 

[Bootneck]

There is no religion in the UK.... it died with education of the masses ...several generations ago.

Really? So whose word should we take for this? Yours or the findings from the National Census?

In 2001 the Census collected information about religious identity. The topic was new to the Census in England, Wales and Scotland although the subject had been included in previous Censuses in Northern Ireland.

Just over three-quarters of the UK population reported having a religion. More than seven out of ten people said that their religion was Christian (72 per cent). After Christianity, Islam was the most common faith with nearly 3 per cent describing their religion as Muslim (1.6 million).

The next largest religious groups were Hindus (559 thousand), followed by Sikhs (336 thousand), Jews (267 thousand), Buddhists (152 thousand), and people from Other religions (179 thousand). These groups each accounted for less than 1 per cent and together accounted for a further 3 per cent of the UK population.

People in Northern Ireland were most likely to say that they identified with a religion (86%) compared with those in England and Wales (77%) and Scotland (67%). About sixteen per cent of the UK population stated that they had no religion. This category included agnostics, atheists, heathens and those who wrote Jedi Knight.

The Census religion question was a voluntary question. Nevertheless, over 92 per cent of people chose to answer it.

National Statistics Online

Credibility crashed again!!!!!

 

[MichaelCollins]

Really? So whose word should we take for this? Yours or the findings from the National Census?



Credibility crashed again!!!!!

Poorest post ever on this forum? Possibly?

Ask someone in the UK what there religion is...may as well ask them what their hair colour is... it has that much meaning.

2.3% attend regular religious services... average age 98.

No one in the UK gives a F about religion.... as i said it died many generations ago...once we gave education to the masses.

Religion never survives in educated nations.


ask most people in the uk...they will automatically say CofE without even knowing what it means.... christian to english means absolutely nothing.

 

[Bootneck]

Poorest post ever on this forum? Possibly?

Ask someone in the UK what there religion is...may as well ask them what their hair colour is... it has that much meaning.

2.3% attend regular religious services... average age 98.

No one in the UK gives a F about religion.... as i said it died many generations ago...once we gave education to the masses.

Religion never survives in educated nations.


ask most people in the uk...they will automatically say CofE without even knowing what it means.... christian to english means absolutely nothing.

Another idiot who thinks that if you don't go to church you can't have religion.

I've just seen a call put out out by the police. Apparently a village has lost its idiot. Not you, by chance, is it?

 

[Navy1960]

Poorest post ever on this forum? Possibly?

Ask someone in the UK what there religion is...may as well ask them what their hair colour is... it has that much meaning.

2.3% attend regular religious services... average age 98.

No one in the UK gives a F about religion.... as i said it died many generations ago...once we gave education to the masses.

Religion never survives in educated nations.


ask most people in the uk...they will automatically say CofE without even knowing what it means.... christian to english means absolutely nothing.

Religion is the opium of the masses.
Karl Marx

Spoken like a true socialist or should I say communist? I can always tell your type. You use the word masses instead of countrymen, or country. You tear down the very things that your using at the moment to respond to me as bad for those so called masses. You speak in high brow tones as if the rest of the world is uninformed to your way, so we all must be stupid. I know a LOT more about communism than you may think. It's tried all over the world and failed all over the world many many times. You would think after so much failure people like you would get the message, your not as smart as you think you are. Take your gutter social expierment somewhere else and let the rest of the world move forward. If that's too hard, perhaps you need to take a look at the very compture your using right now, do you think in a communist system you would be sitting here spewing this stupid junk out to someone like Bootneck,who you should be thanking every second of every day for the freedoms you enjoy?

 

[MichaelCollins]

Religion is the opium of the masses.
Karl Marx

Spoken like a true socialist or should I say communist? I can always tell your type. You use the word masses instead of countrymen, or country. You tear down the very things that your using at the moment to respond to me as bad for those so called masses. You speak in high brow tones as if the rest of the world is uninformed to your way, so we all must be stupid. I know a LOT more about communism than you may think. It's tried all over the world and failed all over the world many many times. You would think after so much failure people like you would get the message, your not as smart as you think you are. Take your gutter social expierment somewhere else and let the rest of the world move forward. If that's too hard, perhaps you need to take a look at the very compture your using right now, do you think in a communist system you would be sitting here spewing this stupid junk out to someone like Bootneck,who you should be thanking every second of every day for the freedoms you enjoy?

Are you Joseph McCarthy by any chance? Not the sharpest tool ..ey Navy?

Took me a while ..but i managed to comprehend the gist of your illiterate ramblings.

Nah... couldn't be further from being a socialist/communist... you can ask my loving bank manager.

 

[Bootneck]

Are you Joseph McCarthy by any chance? Not the sharpest tool ..ey Navy?

Took me a while ..but i managed to comprehend the gist of your illiterate ramblings.

Nah... couldn't be further from being a socialist/communist... you can ask my loving bank manager.

Yaaaaaaawwwwwnnnnnn.

Collins, you really are a disrespectful, ignorant bore. It is people like you who sometimes make me ashamed to be British. I put you in the same category as the drunken football hooligans who shame our nation wherever they go.

I have no doubt that all on this board can see precisely why you are posting here, but hey, you carry on, because every post you make further illustrates what a nasty, arrogant little snake you really are.

 

[Navy1960]

Are you Joseph McCarthy by any chance? Not the sharpest tool ..ey Navy?

Took me a while ..but i managed to comprehend the gist of your illiterate ramblings.

Nah... couldn't be further from being a socialist/communist... you can ask my loving bank manager.

Then your slow witted?, my apologies Mr. Collins for the previous assumptions as to your abilities. However, I will make this my last attempt with you comrade Collins. In the future, please have your facts in hand before spewing your " I hate the USA" crap all over the place, also do me a huge favor will you? come out of the closet, it's okay we won't judge you for being a communist scumbag. I did like the Joe McCarthy thing though, that was good.

 

[MichaelCollins]

Then your slow witted?, my apologies Mr. Collins for the previous assumptions as to your abilities. However, I will make this my last attempt with you comrade Collins. In the future, please have your facts in hand before spewing your " I hate the USA" crap all over the place, also do me a huge favor will you? come out of the closet, it's okay we won't judge you for being a communist scumbag. I did like the Joe McCarthy thing though, that was good.

Of course you would have enjoyed that....accusing innocents .... just like bombing innocent iraqi babies... i am sure a sicko like you enjoyed that also.

 

[Richard-H]

Also, for the other poster, who seems to think that western, "free market" idea's and governments are bad. I have a wonderful idea for you too. I am sure, that there is plenty of room on that plane to Moscow and when you get there for your government assigned 1 bedroom apartment tell your 14 roomates I said hi would you?

First, if you could actually comprehend what you read, you'd notice that I am very much for government and believe in a tempered free market, that I called a 'fair market'.

Second, the Soviet Union came to an end about 17 years ago. The current Russian government isn't communist or socialist. It is a capitalist democracy. I realize that you are a bit slow, but 17 years behind the times is a bit much. Do you ever watch the news?

Third, I know quite a few people that grew up in the Soviet Union, some of which think that the standard of living in the Soviet Union was in many ways better than that in the United States. These include Russians, Lithuanians and Polish.

I realize that you are a brainwashed troll and that the second and third statements above contradict everything that you've been programmed to believe. Please try not to have a tizzy.

You know nothing about the standard of living in the Soviet Union any more than you seem to be able to comprehend that it doesn't exist anymore.

 

[Caligirl]

Poorest post ever on this forum? Possibly?

Ask someone in the UK what there religion is...may as well ask them what their hair colour is... it has that much meaning.

2.3% attend regular religious services... average age 98.

No one in the UK gives a F about religion.... as i said it died many generations ago...once we gave education to the masses.

Religion never survives in educated nations.


ask most people in the uk...they will automatically say CofE without even knowing what it means.... christian to english means absolutely nothing.

Ah, so now the brits have no hair color either.

Not only do I believe you are Irish, I also believe your real name is Zak Martin.

 

[MichaelCollins]

Ah, so now the brits have no hair color either.

Not only do I believe you are Irish, I also believe your real name is Zak Martin.

?? what a great irish sounding name... Zak??? Sounds more hillbilly to me.

 

[Richard-H]

uhmmm....

What does being Irish have to do with this discussion?

And BTW, while we're completely off the subject CaliGirl, if your not a call girl, then what street corner do you hang out on?


O.K., O.K., I apologize for that one, but I just HAD to say it.