The view from LONDON...democracy doesnt work in the US.

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    The view from London and perhaps most of Europe is that the US is split right down the middle.

    The US is a dichotomy in many areas... most notably... it has an educated minority and a vast swathe of uneducated masses in the midwest and south.

    Generally speaking, am i correct in assuming that the Democrat voters tend to be educated and reasonable and the Republican voters tend to be brainwashed religious nuts who are very easily manipulated..by such inventions as the "war on terror" (only believed in the US)....ohhhh be very afraid of the big bad terrorist..only a backward simpleton like GW can protect you!

    Has it not come to a stage now ...where in a country that a substantial number of people believe in creationism...adam and steve etc and the world is 6000 years old.. that selective democracy should be enforced?

    ie.. thick americans should not be allowed to vote. It was this way years ago and also in third world countries...and surely any country that has religion is third world? especially this evangelical stone age nonsense. Thick americans must be denied the vote.


    After all this thick mass of religious nuts was created so that the repulicans could get into power....create fear ... and justify a huge industrial war machine from which they could personally become billionaires.
     
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    Perhaps, but it is all true.

    If the US wants to be taken seriously... it has to do something about those third world stone age evangelical nutters.

    Perhaps it needs to divide? The stone age part can become the third world wasteland that it is...and the rest of the US can join the modern world?
     
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    Actually, it isn't. I wager you've never spent any time whatsoever in the south.
     
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    and you would lose...just as the US will continue to lose if it continues to be controlled by stone age beliefs.
     
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    No. You are not correct. Aside from your entirely inflammatory description of hard working, thinking, feeling human beings across the political spectrum, the republican party is comprised of three main groups.

    1. Fiscal conservatives. These are intelligent people who believe in low taxes and low spending. Nothing nutty there.
    2. Libertarians. Also very bright, who believe that government should not regulate much of anything. Also low taxes.
    3. Religious conservatives. These people may fall into the republican party by default, I am not certain, to oppose liberalism. But they do believe the government should uphold the constitution as they feel it is intended, such as protecting religion (in their view, and they make a case for this) and marriage and the unborn. A very passionate group that is about 30% or so of the party.

    Among the democratic party.
    1. Liberals - These are not necessarily well educated, although they can be.
    2. Minorities - certainly not necessarily benefitting from the educational system, consider the large turnout for Obama among African Americans in poor areas.
    3. The democratic party is usually considered to be more broad and less well defined (a big umbrella) and so I am having difficulty coming up with a parallel set of groups for the democrats.

    Aside from the two parties, roughly 25% (or so) of the country is not affiliated with either major party. These people register independent, green, libertarian, etc etc.

    So no, despite the media spin in the United Kingdom, it is not all about the religious right running the US, and a small elite educated democratic party, but I would bet those sorts of news articles sells papers.
     
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    Why should you worry if the US loses? Surely Europe gains in that case.
     
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    Its not much of a democracy anyway...but i believe that the US needs a much more totalitarian system until there is a concerted program of education for the thickoes of the south and midwest.

    Until the fundamental nutters are debrainwashed... the US cannot exist as a democracy.

    How can you give votes to people who believe in adam and eve? I mean really! We didnt give the uneducated people the vote in the UK hundreds of years ago...but once education was offered to all..eventually we allowed them to vote.

    When the US has similarly developed like the rest of the world.. they should then allow one man, one vote.
     
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    I dont actually like seeing 100,000s of innocent people cowardly massacred by US bombers.

    Iraq under the last administration... it WILL be Iran under Pentagon McCain.
     
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    As I cannot and will not attempt to change your European view of the United States. The only thing I can add here is that , if most europeans took the time to examine our culture rather than making assumptions about it, then you might find that extreme views are not , especially in this country the sole property of republicans or democrats, nor are they held only by people who live in the south or midwest. You also might discover that the United States is a Representative republic not a pure democracy " You have a republic if you can keep it" Franklin. As for your views on the justification for the Iraq war, well I suppose living in london , where everyone is so much better off that we are, that it gives you the right to pass judgement upon people in a country in which you have no clue about. I suggest you do a few things if you really want to know about this country, first take a ride to the Cambridge American cemetary and take a look at the over 5100 Americans some of those so-called dumb people from the south and mid west who took the time to come to your country and never leave. second, take a history book and read about the history of this country, and third, make a difference in your own country, because last I checked Great Britian would be the same country that commited to Iraq with the United States.
     

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