The unsustainability of "green" energy

No, I can't be bothered with your nonsense. Your "You haven't made a case" "Your post is pure propaganda", you always seem to start a post with a slightly veiled attack. I'm not doing it, so either go away, or come back when you're going to act like a decent human being.

You can not be bothered? With what is a quote from your link? That states the opposite of what the Cherry Picked, cut/paste, insinuates?

Although a large portion is contained in USASpending, it is not easy to separate subsidy information from the other types of grant and loan awards (as well as contracts) contained in that database.

Can I quote a bit more, from the study you have selected? It seems the largest tax credits and grants go to Green Energy companies. And lets not forget, Green Energy companies sell Tax Credits for profit, they are not used to defer taxes, they are sold, for cash.

Big Recipients: Grants and Allocated Tax Credits
The company with the largest total, $2.2 billion, is not a household name in the United States. The Spanish electric utility Iberdrola has invested heavily in U.S. power generation facilities, especially renewables. Starting with its 2006 purchase of Scottish Power and its North American subsidiary PPM Energy, Iberdrola has since expanded its wind portfolio to more than 40 projects from Southern California to New England. It now calls itself the second largest wind-energy operator in the United States.16 Many of the wind farms it acquired or built have taken advantage of a provision in the 2009 American Recovery and Reinvestment Act (Section 1603) that allows companies to receive cash payments in lieu of tax credits for the installation of renewable energy properties.17 Section 1603 has awarded more than $23 billion to companies with U.S. and foreign parents. NextEra Energy, the parent of Florida Power & Light and number two on the list, got about 90 percent of its grants from Section 1603; number three NRG Energy got about 80 percent

So, according to FRIGIDWEIRDO's link, the biggest recipients of subsidies is Green Energy.
 
Fossil fuels are cheap to produce because much of it is practically given away to the companies through federal leases.
Oil companies bid on those leases. They pay the market price, so your whine is not only wrong but idiotic.
 
Another perfect example of the unsustainability of "green energy". This is wasting all of our money and negatively impacting our defense.

Costly Renewable Energy Regulations Prevent Our Military From Doing Its Job

Portugal runs for four days straight on renewable energy alone

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Portugal runs for four days straight on renewable energy alone"

"Electricity consumption in the country was fully covered by solar, wind and hydro power in an extraordinary 107-hour run that lasted from 6.45am on Saturday 7 May until 5.45pm the following Wednesday, the analysis says."

"Last year, wind provided 22% of electricity and all renewable sources together provided 48%, according to the Portuguese renewable energy association."

"In 2015, wind power alone met 42% of electricity demand in Denmark, 20% in Spain, 13% in Germany and 11% in the UK."

Sure, unsustainable....... not.
 
Another perfect example of the unsustainability of "green energy". This is wasting all of our money and negatively impacting our defense.

Costly Renewable Energy Regulations Prevent Our Military From Doing Its Job

Portugal runs for four days straight on renewable energy alone

"Portugal runs for four days straight on renewable energy alone"

"Electricity consumption in the country was fully covered by solar, wind and hydro power in an extraordinary 107-hour run that lasted from 6.45am on Saturday 7 May until 5.45pm the following Wednesday, the analysis says."

"Last year, wind provided 22% of electricity and all renewable sources together provided 48%, according to the Portuguese renewable energy association."

"In 2015, wind power alone met 42% of electricity demand in Denmark, 20% in Spain, 13% in Germany and 11% in the UK."

Sure, unsustainable....... not.
Perhaps you don't understand what the word "unsustainable" means? (Hint: notice how there is not one single word about what it cost to build out that infrastructure? Yeah - that's not by accident).
 
This is a prime example of why the idiotic "green" pipe dream is unsustainable (for people like Frigidweirdo who just don't understand that this is unsustainable)...

The Solar Impulse 2 features 17,000 solar cells crammed onto its jumbo jet–size wings, along with four lithium-polymer batteries to store electricity for nighttime. Yet that’s still only enough power to carry 2 tons of weight, including a single passenger, at a top speed of just 43 miles per hour.

By contrast, a Boeing 747-400 running on jet fuel can transport some 400 people at a time, at top speeds of 570 miles per hour. Unless we see some truly shocking advances in module efficiency, it’ll be impossible to cram enough solar panels onto a 747’s wings to lift that much weight—some 370 tons in all.


In short - liberals want to force us into an energy source that flies only 2 people at a time (and at least one of them must be a pilot) at a "whopping" 43 miles per hour. That is a very special kind of stupid that could only come from the left. I can drive 50% faster with my entire family on fossil fuels and about a millionth of the cost.

Why the Left Is Wrong to Demonize Affordable Energy
 
Another perfect example of the unsustainability of "green energy". This is wasting all of our money and negatively impacting our defense.

Costly Renewable Energy Regulations Prevent Our Military From Doing Its Job

Portugal runs for four days straight on renewable energy alone

"Portugal runs for four days straight on renewable energy alone"

"Electricity consumption in the country was fully covered by solar, wind and hydro power in an extraordinary 107-hour run that lasted from 6.45am on Saturday 7 May until 5.45pm the following Wednesday, the analysis says."

"Last year, wind provided 22% of electricity and all renewable sources together provided 48%, according to the Portuguese renewable energy association."

"In 2015, wind power alone met 42% of electricity demand in Denmark, 20% in Spain, 13% in Germany and 11% in the UK."

Sure, unsustainable....... not.
Perhaps you don't understand what the word "unsustainable" means? (Hint: notice how there is not one single word about what it cost to build out that infrastructure? Yeah - that's not by accident).

I understand what sustainable means. I know it's also not just a simple case of things appearing. Time will tell whether this is really viable, but it depends on whether people put their pockets first and demand everything be slave labor cheap, or whether they value the air they breathe.
 
Fossil fuels are cheap to produce because much of it is practically given away to the companies through federal leases.
and subsidies, along with tax breaks...
"Subsidies"?!? Yeah....those all go to the failed "green" energy. What fossil fuels get are devastating regulatory costs aimed at putting them out of business.
Why do you hate the GOP energy policy law of 2005?
Why do you have to reference something so old, my children weren't even born yet? That was more than a decade ago - when we didn't have a failed marxist sitting in the Oval Office. How about you join us in the laws and regulations of the current decade/administration?

Incidentally - I hate most things the Republican Party does.
 
Fossil fuels are cheap to produce because much of it is practically given away to the companies through federal leases.
and subsidies, along with tax breaks...
"Subsidies"?!? Yeah....those all go to the failed "green" energy. What fossil fuels get are devastating regulatory costs aimed at putting them out of business.
Why do you hate the GOP energy policy law of 2005?
Why do you have to reference something so old, my children weren't even born yet? That was more than a decade ago - when we didn't have a failed marxist sitting in the Oval Office. How about you join us in the laws and regulations of the current decade/administration?

Incidentally - I hate most things the Republican Party does.
Oblama is following the Energy Policy Act of 2005...
 
Another perfect example of the unsustainability of "green energy". This is wasting all of our money and negatively impacting our defense.

Costly Renewable Energy Regulations Prevent Our Military From Doing Its Job

Portugal runs for four days straight on renewable energy alone

"Portugal runs for four days straight on renewable energy alone"

"Electricity consumption in the country was fully covered by solar, wind and hydro power in an extraordinary 107-hour run that lasted from 6.45am on Saturday 7 May until 5.45pm the following Wednesday, the analysis says."

"Last year, wind provided 22% of electricity and all renewable sources together provided 48%, according to the Portuguese renewable energy association."

"In 2015, wind power alone met 42% of electricity demand in Denmark, 20% in Spain, 13% in Germany and 11% in the UK."

Sure, unsustainable....... not.
Perhaps you don't understand what the word "unsustainable" means? (Hint: notice how there is not one single word about what it cost to build out that infrastructure? Yeah - that's not by accident).

I understand what sustainable means. I know it's also not just a simple case of things appearing. Time will tell whether this is really viable, but it depends on whether people put their pockets first and demand everything be slave labor cheap, or whether they value the air they breathe.
In time it will be viable. But we're a loooong way away and forcing this nonsense through government coercion called "regulations" along with illegal subsidies is suicide. It's killing us (as liberal policy always does). Very wealthy, influential people like Bill Gates are obsessed with "green" energy. Let them handle this and get the government out of it. What they are doing is illegal.
 
Fossil fuels are cheap to produce because much of it is practically given away to the companies through federal leases.
and subsidies, along with tax breaks...
"Subsidies"?!? Yeah....those all go to the failed "green" energy. What fossil fuels get are devastating regulatory costs aimed at putting them out of business.
Why do you hate the GOP energy policy law of 2005?
Why do you have to reference something so old, my children weren't even born yet? That was more than a decade ago - when we didn't have a failed marxist sitting in the Oval Office. How about you join us in the laws and regulations of the current decade/administration?

Incidentally - I hate most things the Republican Party does.
Oblama is following the Energy Policy Act of 2005...
No. He's not. At all. Really.
 
Another perfect example of the unsustainability of "green energy". This is wasting all of our money and negatively impacting our defense.

Costly Renewable Energy Regulations Prevent Our Military From Doing Its Job

Portugal runs for four days straight on renewable energy alone

"Portugal runs for four days straight on renewable energy alone"

"Electricity consumption in the country was fully covered by solar, wind and hydro power in an extraordinary 107-hour run that lasted from 6.45am on Saturday 7 May until 5.45pm the following Wednesday, the analysis says."

"Last year, wind provided 22% of electricity and all renewable sources together provided 48%, according to the Portuguese renewable energy association."

"In 2015, wind power alone met 42% of electricity demand in Denmark, 20% in Spain, 13% in Germany and 11% in the UK."

Sure, unsustainable....... not.
Perhaps you don't understand what the word "unsustainable" means? (Hint: notice how there is not one single word about what it cost to build out that infrastructure? Yeah - that's not by accident).

I understand what sustainable means. I know it's also not just a simple case of things appearing. Time will tell whether this is really viable, but it depends on whether people put their pockets first and demand everything be slave labor cheap, or whether they value the air they breathe.
In time it will be viable. But we're a loooong way away and forcing this nonsense through government coercion called "regulations" along with illegal subsidies is suicide. It's killing us (as liberal policy always does). Very wealthy, influential people like Bill Gates are obsessed with "green" energy. Let them handle this and get the government out of it. What they are doing is illegal.

The Space Era was forced through, didn't have a problem with that one, hey?

How about all the Wars? Vietnam, Iraq, Iraq 2, Somalia, all the stuff in Latin America and the rest?

You don't like something, you say it'll never be sustainable, in order to make the govt take money away so it never actually becomes sustainable. Self fulfilling prophecy. You're like my boss. But we won't go there.
 
Another perfect example of the unsustainability of "green energy". This is wasting all of our money and negatively impacting our defense.

Costly Renewable Energy Regulations Prevent Our Military From Doing Its Job

Portugal runs for four days straight on renewable energy alone

"
Portugal runs for four days straight on renewable energy alone"

"Electricity consumption in the country was fully covered by solar, wind and hydro power in an extraordinary 107-hour run that lasted from 6.45am on Saturday 7 May until 5.45pm the following Wednesday, the analysis says."

"Last year, wind provided 22% of electricity and all renewable sources together provided 48%, according to the Portuguese renewable energy association."

"In 2015, wind power alone met 42% of electricity demand in Denmark, 20% in Spain, 13% in Germany and 11% in the UK."

Sure, unsustainable....... not.
As reported by the Solar and Wind industry! Lets not forget that Portugal imports more than half its power.

That said, Hydroelectric power is not renewable. Venezuela and Brazil can attest to that fact.

Hydroelectric power is not sustainable, you can not dam the rivers and kill all the fish, there is a limit to the amount of damage you can do to the environment.

But what the hell, Solar and Wind are so weak, you must include Hydroelectric to try and sell them to the public.
 
Another perfect example of the unsustainability of "green energy". This is wasting all of our money and negatively impacting our defense.

Costly Renewable Energy Regulations Prevent Our Military From Doing Its Job

Portugal runs for four days straight on renewable energy alone

"
Portugal runs for four days straight on renewable energy alone"

"Electricity consumption in the country was fully covered by solar, wind and hydro power in an extraordinary 107-hour run that lasted from 6.45am on Saturday 7 May until 5.45pm the following Wednesday, the analysis says."

"Last year, wind provided 22% of electricity and all renewable sources together provided 48%, according to the Portuguese renewable energy association."

"In 2015, wind power alone met 42% of electricity demand in Denmark, 20% in Spain, 13% in Germany and 11% in the UK."

Sure, unsustainable....... not.
As reported by the Solar and Wind industry! Lets not forget that Portugal imports more than half its power.

That said, Hydroelectric power is not renewable. Venezuela and Brazil can attest to that fact.

Hydroelectric power is not sustainable, you can not dam the rivers and kill all the fish, there is a limit to the amount of damage you can do to the environment.

But what the hell, Solar and Wind are so weak, you must include Hydroelectric to try and sell them to the public.

Again, you've said something like "Venezuela and Brazil can attest to that fact", fact? I don't see a fact there. I see you saying it's a fact, but no fact.
 
Electricity dependent on rain is not sustainable, to depend on the rain for 80% of a societies electricity is criminal.

Brazil Power Supply Cut as Demand Peaks; Stocks Plunge

At least nine Brazilian states suffered blackouts after the country’s power grid operator restricted electricity distribution during hours of peak use.

Units at 11 power plants that account for 2,200 megawatts, or about 5 percent of the integrated distribution system, were automatically cut Monday, according to grid operator ONS.

The supply interruptions stoked concern that the country is facing energy rationing as dry weather depletes hydroelectric dams. Shares of CPFL Energia SA, which generates and distributes energy in three of the states affected by the outage, tumbled 7.3 percent as the MSCI Brazil Utilities Index lost 5.7 percent, the most among 10 industry groups.
 

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