The U.S. Constitution is NOT an international document

It is time to put this idiotic left-wing false narrative to rest once and for all. The U.S. Constitution is not an international document. As such, it applies to U.S. citizens on U.S. soil only. A non-US citizen has no constitutional rights. None. They don't have a right to free speech. The don't have a right to keep and bear arms. They don't have a right to an attorney. They don't have a right to a phone call. And they can absolutely be held indefinitely without being charged. They have no rights.

Bill of Rights in 15 Different Languages! -- Is the site down?

u.s. bill of rights: en, sv, fi, fr, ¿es? -- I have posted some of my own.

I can't be an expert in ALL the languages, but I have a serious grievance against those who insist on translating classic 18th-century American English into informal modern colloquial chit-chat, let alone the proper legal terminology in any given language. I have not reached Spanish yet.
 
You do not illegally walk over from Mexico and received constitutional rights upon stepping onto US soil
Article [V] (Amendment 5 - Rights of Persons)
No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

Article [VI] (Amendment 6 - Rights of Accused in Criminal Prosecutions)
In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defence.
The “persons” being spoken of are persons of the US and not of the planet
 
The “persons” being spoken of are persons of the US and not of the planet

You have posted some of your own what? I literally have no idea what you’re talking about in your entire post.

Sure. This is the U.S. We have to worry about U.S. persons first. We cannot police the whole world. These are our rights, and we have to fight for them, and part of that is thinking, interpreting, working with them. Stop limiting them, chipping away at them, and restricting them. For all practical purposes, they are no more, but we have to fight to bring them back.
 
It’s ludicrous to think that in the late 1700’s the framers were thinking of anything other that persons of the USA-citizens
It’s ludicrous to believe they had much of any awareness of , thus sought to protect, people from Central America.
 
It’s ludicrous to think that in the late 1700’s the framers were thinking of anything other that persons of the USA-citizens
It’s ludicrous to believe they had much of any awareness of , thus sought to protect, people from Central America

Ludicrous? You people are simply high on Quaaludes. The framers were not counting a census of "documented citizens" like David's disastrous numbering of the people in the Bible. They did not envision an Anglo-Saxon-only paradise with closed walls like some kind of Valhalla.

When the Central Americans or others came in peace, they were welcome. When they come in war, we have to defend ourselves against them without the obstructionism and racism.
 
Actually, it's universally agreed upon that many parts of the Constitution apply to everyone under the jurisdiction of the United States - meaning everyone within it's borders, other than diplomats. It's in the text.
Actually - it's not. I don't agree to that at all. So much for your lie that it is "universally agreed upon". Oops. By the way, I highlighted the fact that you contradict yourself in the same breath. :laugh:
Shouting on the internet will not change that reality.
The U.S. Constitution is not an international document. Lying about it on the internet will not change that.

Constitutional rights apply to everyone within the US jurisdiction. The preamble says “ . . . all men are created equal”. Not “all citizens”.

If non-citizens aren’t subject to the rights and protections under the Constitution, why aren’t there one set of laws for citizens, and one for non-citizens? Courts don’t ask if you’re a citizen before beginning proceedings.

Patriot, what you believe is right is irrelevant. Neither the actual document nor its interpretation at any point in history would suggest that you’re correct. In fact, according to the Founding Father’s, the only rights accruing to citizens under the Constitution which don’t apply to non-citizens, is the right to vote.

And the word is “precedent”. It’s a noun. The plural is “precedents”. A precedent is an example of how things are done correctly.

There is no such legal concept as “precedence” which is defined as a ranking. As in “Legacy applications take precedence over all other university applications in the Ivy League. This is affirmative action for rich kids.”
 
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It’s ludicrous to think that in the late 1700’s the framers were thinking of anything other that persons of the USA-citizens
It’s ludicrous to believe they had much of any awareness of , thus sought to protect, people from Central America

Ludicrous? You people are simply high on Quaaludes. The framers were not counting a census of "documented citizens" like David's disastrous numbering of the people in the Bible. They did not envision an Anglo-Saxon-only paradise with closed walls like some kind of Valhalla.

When the Central Americans or others came in peace, they were welcome. When they come in war, we have to defend ourselves against them without the obstructionism and racism.
They were creating citizens of and for this country. They also knew that more people would be coming. Immigrants. Legal immigrants who did what was necessary to enter the country in a lawful manner. They wished to be citizens of this great land.
We are not the public relations ambassador to the world; welcoming every way shape and manner with open arms
We Are a lawful Nation with wonderful Constitutionsl protections for the citizens of this nation
 
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Constitutional rights apply to everyone within the US jurisdiction. The preamble says “ . . . all men are created equal”. Not “all citizens”.
I always enjoy being vindicated... :laugh:
First, it is long settled as a matter of American constitutional law that foreign citizens outside U. S. territory do not possess rights under the U.S. Constitution
It is not an international document and every person with an IQ above 40 knows it. This is a prime example of why Canadians just shouldn't weigh in on American politics. They are simply clueless.
 
Just a few highlights from the recent Supreme Court ruling on George Soros' claim that his "Open Society" is entitled to constitutional rights:
First, it is long settled as a matter of American constitutional law that foreign citizens outside U.S. territory do not possess rights under the U.S. Constitution
Held: Because plaintiffs’ foreign affiliates possess no First Amendment rights, applying the Policy Requirement to them is not unconstitutional.
Two bedrock legal principles lead to this conclusion. As a matter of American constitutional law, foreign citizens outside U.S. territory do not possess rights under the U. S. Constitution
Foreign organizations operating abroad do not possess rights under the U.S. Constitution
Pretty cut and dry but for those leftists who are going to look for loopholes here by citing nonsense like "but....but....but...it mentions outside of U.S. territory", here is a few more highlights from this recent decision to close the case on this favorite left-wing lie:
As the Court has recognized, foreign citizens in the United States may enjoy certain constitutional rights—to take just one example, the right to due process in a criminal trial
Keyword: may. Note that it does not say they will or they have a right. They say they MAY. As in, if we so choose. But it doesn't stop there. Here is more:
To be sure, Congress may seek to enact laws that afford foreign citizens abroad statutory rights or causes of action against misconduct by U.S. Government officials
Once again, that keyword may pops up! Once again, as in if we so choose. Could not be more cut & dry. Thanks for playing leftists. But words have meaning, and although we recognize your utter contempt for the U.S. Constitution because it limits your deep desire for power over others, you lose!

 
It is time to put this idiotic left-wing false narrative to rest once and for all. The U.S. Constitution is not an international document. As such, it applies to U.S. citizens on U.S. soil only. A non-US citizen has no constitutional rights. None. They don't have a right to free speech. The don't have a right to keep and bear arms. They don't have a right to an attorney. They don't have a right to a phone call. And they can absolutely be held indefinitely without being charged. They have no rights.

BLASPHEMY. It applies to non-citizens if important toward the goal of Demonicrat political victories.
 
230 or so odd years of judicial precedent and interpretation disagree with you.

But, I don't imagine you'll let anything so insignificant as reality stop you from believing what you want.
"Judicial Precedence" isn't the supreme law of the land, snowflake. The U.S. Constitution is and it is very clear that you are dead-wrong (as usual).

:lol:

Actually, it's universally agreed upon that many parts of the Constitution apply to everyone under the jurisdiction of the United States - meaning everyone within it's borders, other than diplomats. It's in the text.

Shouting on the internet will not change that reality.
agreed? by whom? link
 
What supreme body interprets the Constitution?

Say Tonto, why the MAGA hat = KKK business? Can you articulate why or does the comparison just make you feel good?

If you would like a fair comparison of people who hide behind costumes who violently offend rights of others, why not ANTIFA = KKK?

The party of slavery only changed tactics.............

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I was wondering why the CIA & Department of State had revoked my passport. I originally thought it was because of gender identity — some of those countries are extremely conservative and anti-LGBT despite their socialist labor-union policies, and make the gross assumption that travelers are having sex with the locals unless they are already "with" an opposite-sex spouse on the trip.

However, that's not the real reason, only a certain old-school establishment line of thinking. In real life, people who are married or in a committed family relationship of any sort don't care if other people are "gay" or "straight" or even if they have sex at all.

The real reason has nothing to do with sex at all. It is that Americans have guns, and we are not welcome in some of those other countries with our guns.
 
It is time to put this idiotic left-wing false narrative to rest once and for all. The U.S. Constitution is not an international document. As such, it applies to U.S. citizens on U.S. soil only. A non-US citizen has no constitutional rights. None. They don't have a right to free speech. The don't have a right to keep and bear arms. They don't have a right to an attorney. They don't have a right to a phone call. And they can absolutely be held indefinitely without being charged. They have no rights.

A widely-held view among the great men who wrote our Constitution—with which I agree—is that it does not create or grant any rights at all, but only recognizes rights to which all human beings are entitled, and which all legitimate governments are obligated to uphold.

Obviously, the Constitution only has legal authority within the jurisdiction of the United States and of the states which comprise it; and it does create a troubling dilemma as to how our government should treat sovereign foreign nations which deny their people the rights that our nation is founded on the idea that every person should have.
 
So, according to the 2nd Amendment - you have the right to own any weapon you choose? Right? How many fully automatic weapons do you own? Sawed-off shotguns? Hand grenades? Bazookas?

The refusal of a corrupt and criminal government to uphold a right which the Constitution explicitly affirms, protects, and forbids from being infringed, does not make that right invalid, nor justify the blatantly illegal violation of that right.
 
Time to end this before more left-winger attempt to argue their false narrative further. For the last time right here and now:

The U.S. Constitution is not an international document and as such, non-US citizens do not have constitutional rights. If they did, they could not be prevented from voting. And the law absolutely prevents any non-US citizen from voting.

"However, green card holders cannot do everything that U.S. citizens can. They cannot vote in U.S. elections."


:dance::dance::dance::dance::dance:

Difference Between U.S. Green Card and U.S. Citizenship

Voting is a privilege, exclusive to those who are citizens in the jurisdiction for which they are voting. All adults have a right to have a say in the governing of whatever country in which they are citizens. No rational interpretation of our Constitution, even if we were to assume it applied internationally, would affirm a right of those who are not citizens of this country to vote in this country. It would rationally support a right of them to vote in their own countries, and condemn those governments that refused to allow their own citizens proper enfranchisement and representation in government.
 
It is time to put this idiotic left-wing false narrative to rest once and for all. The U.S. Constitution is not an international document. As such, it applies to U.S. citizens on U.S. soil only. A non-US citizen has no constitutional rights. None. They don't have a right to free speech. The don't have a right to keep and bear arms. They don't have a right to an attorney. They don't have a right to a phone call. And they can absolutely be held indefinitely without being charged. They have no rights.

A widely-held view among the great men who wrote our Constitution—with which I agree—is that it does not create or grant any rights at all, but only recognizes rights to which all human beings are entitled, and which all legitimate governments are obligated to uphold.

Obviously, the Constitution only has legal authority within the jurisdiction of the United States and of the states which comprise it; and it does create a troubling dilemma as to how our government should treat sovereign foreign nations which deny their people the rights that our nation is founded on the idea that .
"every person should have"

Many are confusing terms "persons" and "people".

Non-citizens do have some constitutional rights, but not all the rights that U.S. citizens have. As non-citizens, they have all the rights that the Constitution protects for “persons”, most importantly, the right not to be deprived of life, liberty, or property without due process of law, as well as the rights to a jury, a lawyer, and cross-examination in criminal cases. That's about all they get, basic human rights.

Other rights in the Constitution are secured to “the people” which is read U.S. citizens and legal permanent residents. Thus, non-citizen permanent residents have the right to bear arms, to peaceably assemble, and to be secure from unreasonable searches and seizures. But non-immigrant visitors and illegal aliens do not, and the Bureau of Immigration and Customs Enforcement has broad powers to intrude even on legal non-immigrant visitors without a warrant.

And than, there are few rights specifically limited to citizens (the people) only, like the right to vote who is going to represent them in the government, or be in a jury.
 
Just a few highlights from the recent Supreme Court ruling on George Soros' claim that his "Open Society" is entitled to constitutional rights:
First, it is long settled as a matter of American constitutional law that foreign citizens outside U.S. territory do not possess rights under the U.S. Constitution
Held: Because plaintiffs’ foreign affiliates possess no First Amendment rights, applying the Policy Requirement to them is not unconstitutional.
Two bedrock legal principles lead to this conclusion. As a matter of American constitutional law, foreign citizens outside U.S. territory do not possess rights under the U. S. Constitution
Foreign organizations operating abroad do not possess rights under the U.S. Constitution
Pretty cut and dry but for those leftists who are going to look for loopholes here by citing nonsense like "but....but....but...it mentions outside of U.S. territory", here is a few more highlights from this recent decision to close the case on this favorite left-wing lie:
As the Court has recognized, foreign citizens in the United States may enjoy certain constitutional rights—to take just one example, the right to due process in a criminal trial
Keyword: may. Note that it does not say they will or they have a right. They say they MAY. As in, if we so choose. But it doesn't stop there. Here is more:
To be sure, Congress may seek to enact laws that afford foreign citizens abroad statutory rights or causes of action against misconduct by U.S. Government officials
Once again, that keyword may pops up! Once again, as in if we so choose. Could not be more cut & dry. Thanks for playing leftists. But words have meaning, and although we recognize your utter contempt for the U.S. Constitution because it limits your deep desire for power over others, you lose!


"but, but, but...I really want AMERICAS Constitution to apply to Mexico's human cockroaches as well..DAMNIT!"
Dragonlady cnm
 

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