The truth about Reaganomics

These economic policies amounted to the most successful economic experiment in world history. The Reagan recovery started in official records in November 1982, and lasted 92 months without a recession until July 1990, when the tax increases of the 1990 budget deal killed it. This set a new record for the longest peacetime expansion ever, the previous high in peacetime being 58 months.

Reaganomics Vs. Obamanomics: Facts And Figures - Forbes

Smoke and mirrors. Reagan's supply side experiment only appears to have succeeded, because he radically increased the deficit, size of the federal workforce, and federal spending in general. His defense spending wound up resulting in one of the greatest defense contractor scandals in our history, i.e. Ill Winds, which was consultants creating a market, in collaboration with contractors and military procurement officials, in the trade of insider procurement document.

Reaganomics also included capricious deregulation that led directly to the S&L collapse, handing Bush I a severe recession and cost the taxpayers hundreds of billions. Reagan's fiscal irresponsibility also resulted in the devaluation of the dollar.

If you want to see real growth in American prosperity, you ought to look at Clinton. He raised taxes, mostly at the top rates, and that resulted in increased value of the dollar, attracted foreign investment, low unemployment, and among other things creating budget surpluses.

Bush II tried the same Reagan approach, without Reagan's flexibility, with an even worse result. Trillions of dollars of American wealth was lost due to Bush's policies.

Obama, has been reducing the size of the federal workforce and when the Bush tax cuts expire, we'll start seeing results similar to Clinton. The biggest problem in our economy today is the lack of recovery in housing and construction. Congress rebuffed Obama's attempts to invest more in infrastructure, that would provide immediate aid to the hardest hit of our industries. But as it stands, Obama's discretionary spending is at the lowest rates we've seen in a very long time.

But I really wonder how the right would react if Obama did what Reagan did with both the Amnesty program and his zero option proposal with the Soviets. I suspect your heads would explode and you'd further snarl yourselves into incohesion.

Job creation from 81-89

Notice: Data not available: U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics
1981 95 67 104 74 10 196 112 -36 -87 -100 -209 -278
1982 -327 -6 -129 -281 -45 -243 -343 -158 -181 -277 -124 -14
1983 225 -78 173 276 277 378 418 -308 1114 271 352 356
1984 447 479 275 363 308 379 312 241 311 286 349 127
1985 266 124 346 195 274 145 189 193 204 187 209 168
1986 123 107 93 188 125 -93 318 113 346 187 186 204
1987 171 232 249 338 227 171 346 170 229 492 231 294
1988 94 452 276 245 227 363 223 121 340 268 339 289
1989 262 258 192 173 118 117 39 47 249 111 277 95

there is no smoke and mirrors here

Oh yes there is. Most of those jobs were federal jobs or defense contractor jobs. Reagan exploded government spending and the size of the federal workforce to get those numbers. He also exploded the size of the debt, not really because of his tax cuts, since he quickly began raising them, but because of the radical increase in deficit spending.
 
The myth of Russia falling due to Reagan is a right wing history rewrite
 
The myth of Russia falling due to Reagan is a right wing history rewrite

That started about ten seconds after it happened.

Why don't you shut up and quit making an ass out of yourself.

You obviously need help as the drugs you've done through the years have really lowered your already deficient I.Q.
 
Smoke and mirrors. Reagan's supply side experiment only appears to have succeeded, because he radically increased the deficit, size of the federal workforce, and federal spending in general. His defense spending wound up resulting in one of the greatest defense contractor scandals in our history, i.e. Ill Winds, which was consultants creating a market, in collaboration with contractors and military procurement officials, in the trade of insider procurement document.

Reaganomics also included capricious deregulation that led directly to the S&L collapse, handing Bush I a severe recession and cost the taxpayers hundreds of billions. Reagan's fiscal irresponsibility also resulted in the devaluation of the dollar.

If you want to see real growth in American prosperity, you ought to look at Clinton. He raised taxes, mostly at the top rates, and that resulted in increased value of the dollar, attracted foreign investment, low unemployment, and among other things creating budget surpluses.

Bush II tried the same Reagan approach, without Reagan's flexibility, with an even worse result. Trillions of dollars of American wealth was lost due to Bush's policies.

Obama, has been reducing the size of the federal workforce and when the Bush tax cuts expire, we'll start seeing results similar to Clinton. The biggest problem in our economy today is the lack of recovery in housing and construction. Congress rebuffed Obama's attempts to invest more in infrastructure, that would provide immediate aid to the hardest hit of our industries. But as it stands, Obama's discretionary spending is at the lowest rates we've seen in a very long time.

But I really wonder how the right would react if Obama did what Reagan did with both the Amnesty program and his zero option proposal with the Soviets. I suspect your heads would explode and you'd further snarl yourselves into incohesion.

Job creation from 81-89

Notice: Data not available: U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics
1981 95 67 104 74 10 196 112 -36 -87 -100 -209 -278
1982 -327 -6 -129 -281 -45 -243 -343 -158 -181 -277 -124 -14
1983 225 -78 173 276 277 378 418 -308 1114 271 352 356
1984 447 479 275 363 308 379 312 241 311 286 349 127
1985 266 124 346 195 274 145 189 193 204 187 209 168
1986 123 107 93 188 125 -93 318 113 346 187 186 204
1987 171 232 249 338 227 171 346 170 229 492 231 294
1988 94 452 276 245 227 363 223 121 340 268 339 289
1989 262 258 192 173 118 117 39 47 249 111 277 95

there is no smoke and mirrors here

Oh yes there is. Most of those jobs were federal jobs or defense contractor jobs. Reagan exploded government spending and the size of the federal workforce to get those numbers. He also exploded the size of the debt, not really because of his tax cuts, since he quickly began raising them, but because of the radical increase in deficit spending.

if this is true then BHO shoud have created trillions in jobs
 

Which President Increased Debt the Most?
congress owns the debt to start with
RR debt vs GDP was 15%
GWB first term was 5%
second was 17% (DEM congress last 2 years)
BHO was 23.5%

what are you trying to say?
facts always harm the libs

Misleading, since Bush got us into the worst recession since the Great Depression, the GDP hit a trough of nearly 14%. Add to that that the Bush recession caused a massive drop in revenues, and your argument makes no sense.
 
Really liked Reagan on the G.E. weekly western show when I was a kid.
 
Job creation from 81-89

Notice: Data not available: U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics
1981 95 67 104 74 10 196 112 -36 -87 -100 -209 -278
1982 -327 -6 -129 -281 -45 -243 -343 -158 -181 -277 -124 -14
1983 225 -78 173 276 277 378 418 -308 1114 271 352 356
1984 447 479 275 363 308 379 312 241 311 286 349 127
1985 266 124 346 195 274 145 189 193 204 187 209 168
1986 123 107 93 188 125 -93 318 113 346 187 186 204
1987 171 232 249 338 227 171 346 170 229 492 231 294
1988 94 452 276 245 227 363 223 121 340 268 339 289
1989 262 258 192 173 118 117 39 47 249 111 277 95

there is no smoke and mirrors here

Oh yes there is. Most of those jobs were federal jobs or defense contractor jobs. Reagan exploded government spending and the size of the federal workforce to get those numbers. He also exploded the size of the debt, not really because of his tax cuts, since he quickly began raising them, but because of the radical increase in deficit spending.

if this is true then BHO shoud have created trillions in jobs

That's a lie, since Obama actually reduced the size of the federal workforce.
 
Oh yes there is. Most of those jobs were federal jobs or defense contractor jobs. Reagan exploded government spending and the size of the federal workforce to get those numbers. He also exploded the size of the debt, not really because of his tax cuts, since he quickly began raising them, but because of the radical increase in deficit spending.

Sorry Suck,

But the proof is in the pudding.

Oh, to be sure he built the military back up. But businesses expanded under him....tremendously.

And he gave confidence to people....all they needed to move forward.

He won 49 states in 2004 and his economy was good enough sustain the idiot who followed him (there was a mild recession....but the basics were there).
 
Oh yes there is. Most of those jobs were federal jobs or defense contractor jobs. Reagan exploded government spending and the size of the federal workforce to get those numbers. He also exploded the size of the debt, not really because of his tax cuts, since he quickly began raising them, but because of the radical increase in deficit spending.

if this is true then BHO shoud have created trillions in jobs

That's a lie, since Obama actually reduced the size of the federal workforce.

The only lie was his statement about how many jobs he'd create in his first four years. He is running at about 45%.
 
The myth of Russia falling due to Reagan is a right wing history rewrite

That started about ten seconds after it happened.

Why don't you shut up and quit making an ass out of yourself.

You obviously need help as the drugs you've done through the years have really lowered your already deficient I.Q.

The USSR was brought down by a number of events
to deny the US tax payer and RR had nothing to do with it as well as allowing Clinton to cut the amount spending went up each year for defense is asinine
 
When President Reagan entered office in 1981, he faced actually much worse economic problems than President Obama faced in 2009.


flat out fucking lie right in the begining of this partisan diatribe

the interest rate in 81 was 21.5%
it was about 6 when BHO took office

Complete different set of circumstances. Volker was trying to prevent runaway inflation. This stifled the economy for a very long time but also brought inflation under control. Is anyone here suggesting that we raise interest rates to 20%? Like I said, a completely different set of circumstances.
 
Oh yes there is. Most of those jobs were federal jobs or defense contractor jobs. Reagan exploded government spending and the size of the federal workforce to get those numbers. He also exploded the size of the debt, not really because of his tax cuts, since he quickly began raising them, but because of the radical increase in deficit spending.

Sorry Suck,

But the proof is in the pudding.

Oh, to be sure he built the military back up. But businesses expanded under him....tremendously.

And he gave confidence to people....all they needed to move forward.

He won 49 states in 2004 and his economy was good enough sustain the idiot who followed him (there was a mild recession....but the basics were there).

The people loved FDR and that doesnt stop you people from trying to rewrite that history too
 
Oh yes there is. Most of those jobs were federal jobs or defense contractor jobs. Reagan exploded government spending and the size of the federal workforce to get those numbers. He also exploded the size of the debt, not really because of his tax cuts, since he quickly began raising them, but because of the radical increase in deficit spending.

Sorry Suck,

But the proof is in the pudding.

Oh, to be sure he built the military back up. But businesses expanded under him....tremendously.

And he gave confidence to people....all they needed to move forward.

He won 49 states in 2004 and his economy was good enough sustain the idiot who followed him (there was a mild recession....but the basics were there).

The people loved FDR and that doesnt stop you people from trying to rewrite that history too

Piss for brains.....

You've never liked Reagan.

He is he darling of the right.

FDR needs to be dug up and fed to the vultures.

But, you worship him.

Can you ever stop being a moron ?
 
the people who worked us out of the depression and then fought and won WWII loved FDR and his programs.


why do you hate those Americans and call them fools?
 
The myth of Russia falling due to Reagan is a right wing history rewrite

That started about ten seconds after it happened.

Why don't you shut up and quit making an ass out of yourself.

You obviously need help as the drugs you've done through the years have really lowered your already deficient I.Q.

Oh yes there is. Most of those jobs were federal jobs or defense contractor jobs. Reagan exploded government spending and the size of the federal workforce to get those numbers. He also exploded the size of the debt, not really because of his tax cuts, since he quickly began raising them, but because of the radical increase in deficit spending.

if this is true then BHO shoud have created trillions in jobs

That's a lie, since Obama actually reduced the size of the federal workforce.

what does that have to do with the millions that were created during RR tenure?
and the 0 that has been created under BHO?

is your claim that RR hired 15 million people for the US govt?

and exactly when did I state that federal jobs had anything to do with the claim that federal spending created those millions of jobs for RR and the trillions that BHO has over spent has created 0?

we are not to 08 levels yet

From BLS
2008...... 136,790 114,281 21,335 767 7,162 13,406
2009...... 130,807 108,252 18,558 694 6,016 11,847

2010...... 129,874 107,384 17,751 705 5,518 11,528
2011(p)... 131,358 109,253 18,021 784 5,504 11,733



ftp://ftp.bls.gov/pub/suppl/empsit.ceseeb1.txt
add all of 2012 to the 2011 numbers and get backwith me

12 month net change from 08-present
905 728 443 163 -166 -439 -609 -865 -1370 -1938 -2853 -3603
2009 -4462 -5102 -5806 -6290 -6461 -6745 -6874 -6831 -6598 -6311 -5550 -5060
2010 -4282 -3593 -2605 -1674 -797 -482 -201 -21 151 573 736 1027
2011 1177 1432 1489 1501 1039 1290 1444 1580 1809 1701 1737 1840
2012 2005 2044 1941 1758 1791 1771(P) 1838(P)
P : preliminary
 
Reagan raised taxes.

your party today would drum him out of the party

RR had a huge net cut
its called bi partisanship
GWB had it, both SR and JR
Clinton had it (some
BHO does not

you should be ashamed
 
Gorby ended the USSR- we're lucky Rayguns bluster didn't bring the hard liners back.
His chickenhawk, triple the debt foreign policy (see beginning of Taliban and Alqaeda, buddy Saddam, support of dictators in Latin America, and his pander to the rich, screw the rest and our infrastructure, have been a disaster.See sig pp1.

And his end of the Fairness Doctrine have led to a Propaganda machine never seen before, the ruin of political discourse, and 30% loudmouth brainwashed Ugly 'Merican morons- a disgrace. Cuomo said he made attacking the poor ok. Pub dupes!!
 
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Gorby ended the USSR- we're lucky Rayguns bluster didn't bring the hard liners back.
His chickenhawk, triple the debt foreign policy (see beginning of Taliban and Alqaeda, buddy Saddam, support of dictators in Latin America, and his pander to the rich, screw the rest and our infrastructure, have been a disaster.See sig pp1.

And his end of the Fairness Doctrine have led to a Propaganda machine never seen before, the ruin of political discourse, and 30% loudmouth brainwashed Ugly 'Merican morons- a disgrace. Cuomo sad he made attacking the poor ok. Pub dupes!!

so what does that make BHO?
and as far as the USSR?
RR did little
it was his leadership and the US tax payer

Now the word chicken hawk is a racial slur, I will not use it on BHO
but whats the diff with him, Clinton and RR?
GWB served
Sr served

grow up dude and chill
 

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