The Trump "So What" Defense.

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Lakhota, you continue to argue with conservatives who have proven they have lost all grip on reality,‭ ‬and no longer represent the high standards of what it means to be an American.

When trump moved into the White House the world witnessed the complete loss for rational thought by all die-hard Republicans and most who identify as moderate Republicans,‭ ‬and saw the United States lurch toward the plutocracy conservatives long to establish.

As of November‭ ‬2016‭ ‬Republican politicians had the final proof their‭ "‬Southern Strategy‭" ‬was,‭ ‬at last,‭ ‬a nationwide success.

Conservative Christians saw the Electoral College install a vindictive and hate-filled individual who echoed their feelings towards non-whites‭ (‬both foreign and native born‭)‬,‭ ‬women,‭ ‬the LGBTQ community,‭ ‬non-Christians,‭ ‬liberals,‭ ‬progressives,‭ ‬moderates,‭ ‬and everyone else who does not live down to the righties‭’ ‬despicable ideals.

Their deplorable leader trump,‭ ‬validates their Nazi racism,‭ ‬bigotry,‭ ‬and general hatred that civilized society had forced them to keep to themselves since the‭ ‬1960s.

You must realize,‭ ‬as mindless Nazi followers,‭ ‬the trump voters cannot accept any wrongdoing or act of corruption by any of their Republican heroes as a crime or impeachable offense.‭ ‬But,‭ ‬also remember they viewed President Obama’s wearing of a tan suit as shameful,‭ ‬and a reason he should be removed from office.‭

So,‭ ‬despite all the conservatives‭’ ‬claims to be experts in domestic and world economics,‭ ‬foreign policy,‭ ‬all aspects of science,‭ ‬and every other subject known to mankind,‭ ‬as a rational person you obviously understand conservatives truly know,‭ ‬for a certainty,‭ ‬only what the hear from FOX Noise,‭ ‬their uninformed clergy,‭ ‬and every right wing blog sight they can find.

The righties‭’ ‬seek out FOX Noise and the rest mentioned above because they are actually insecure and unsure in their own knowledge and beliefs,‭ ‬and must and must have these ideals reinforced on an hourly basis.‭ ‬Which,‭ ‬is the reason for the success of the multitude of right wing propaganda sources.

You are encouraged to continue exposing the conservatives to the truth,‭ ‬as you have been doing on these message boards for years.‭ ‬However,‭ ‬do not expect to change any conservative’s way of thinking.‭ ‬The right wingers are trapped in a rigid mindset that cannot be changed.‭ ‬They love their Republican Party in the same way as they love their mothers.‭ ‬And everyone knows,‭ ‬Mom can do no wrong.

But I must caution you.‭ ‬Regardless of the conservatives’ constant declarations of hate for political correctness,‭ ‬if you say anything that hurts their feelings,‭ ‬they will run,‭ ‬crying like little girls,‭ ‬to anyone who can censor you.‭

Best of luck in the future.





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Ah...so all conservatives are Southern racist Nazis? (eye roll)

You know, Bertram...there is a reason the average person doesn't like liberals anymore! It's the way you smear anyone that doesn't toe the progressive line with nonsense like the above. It's your PC culture. It's your baseless belief that you're smarter than your neighbor. Go ahead and refer to those who don't believe in your agenda as "deplorables" and worse! It simply makes them dislike you more and more.
 
I've heard several Trump supporters say that even if everything Trump has been accused of is true - it's not impeachable. Is that a reasonable defense? What do you think?

It has long been obvious that Republicans would ultimately converge on this final defense of President Trump: Even if he did everything he has been accused of doing, and perhaps a lot more that we don’t know about, it’s absolutely fine!

We now have a particularly ugly preview of what this defense may look like, as Trump’s Senate trial gets underway. On Sean Hannity’s Thursday night show, former Republican National Committee chair Reince Priebus said:

Sometimes the best defense is the ‘so what’ defense. If everything the Democrats said is true, it’s still not impeachable. If everything Lev Parnas said is true, it’s still not impeachable. That’s what this is about.

What’s truly perverse here is that if Trump did nothing wrong, then no one could speak to that more forcefully than the witnesses Democrats want to hear from, and who Trump and McConnell desperately do not. If withholding the aid was correct on the merits, why not hear from those directly involved in that decision?

The answer is that Trump and McConnell know Trump did engage in profoundly corrupt, impeachable conduct. Trump used the power of his office — and the conditioning of official acts, including withholding hundreds of millions in appropriated military aid from a vulnerable ally — to strong-arm that ally into manufacturing disinformation to corrupt the 2020 election on his behalf.

More: Hannity previews Trump’s final defense: So what if he’s guilty?

Maybe this will help
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It is more like the.......I can shoot someone on Fifth Avenue and Republicans won’t convict me defense

Bullshit rhetoric like this becomes what dims then refer to as facts. And think they can get away with it. Good luck with whatever geriatric they put up against him.


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It is the truth as many Republicans admit to not even reading the charges

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I watched everything. It’s bullshit and you know it. I really hope that shitt, polosi, schrumer, nads, and some other idiots get subpoenaed to testify. It would be interesting to see them destroyed, and fall flat on their incompetent lying faces. It time to put up or STFU! But you pussies won’t be satisfied, just the same as hiltard losing the election. Manufactured facts are not facts.


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I actually listen to the other side. It’s fun.
I have listened to you

but you are not making sense
I have listened to you

but you are not making sense

Becauae you're incompetent.
I am competent enough to realize that liberals are sore losers who cant accept the fact that trump won an election they expected to win

You answer with further incompetence.

That reason is not listed anywhere in articles of impeachment.
Nor does it have to be for us to know whats motivating you

Again your incompetence fails you.
 
It is more like the.......I can shoot someone on Fifth Avenue and Republicans won’t convict me defense

Bullshit rhetoric like this becomes what dims then refer to as facts. And think they can get away with it. Good luck with whatever geriatric they put up against him.


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It is the truth as many Republicans admit to not even reading the charges

Three+Wise+Monkeys+Hear+No+Evil+See+No+Evil+Speak+No+Evil+Body+Language+Nonverbal+Communication+Expert+Expert+Speaker+Speaker+Dr+Jack+Brown+Dr+Jack+Brown+Las+Vegas+Southern+California.jpg

I watched everything. It’s bullshit and you know it. I really hope that shitt, polosi, schrumer, nads, and some other idiots get subpoenaed to testify. It would be interesting to see them destroyed, and fall flat on their incompetent lying faces. It time to put up or STFU! But you pussies won’t be satisfied, just the same as hiltard losing the election. Manufactured facts are not facts.


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RW is use to kangaroo courts, he feels uncomfortable with an honest court.
 
It is more like the.......I can shoot someone on Fifth Avenue and Republicans won’t convict me defense

Bullshit rhetoric like this becomes what dims then refer to as facts. And think they can get away with it. Good luck with whatever geriatric they put up against him.


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It is the truth as many Republicans admit to not even reading the charges

Three+Wise+Monkeys+Hear+No+Evil+See+No+Evil+Speak+No+Evil+Body+Language+Nonverbal+Communication+Expert+Expert+Speaker+Speaker+Dr+Jack+Brown+Dr+Jack+Brown+Las+Vegas+Southern+California.jpg

I watched everything. It’s bullshit and you know it. I really hope that shitt, polosi, schrumer, nads, and some other idiots get subpoenaed to testify. It would be interesting to see them destroyed, and fall flat on their incompetent lying faces. It time to put up or STFU! But you pussies won’t be satisfied, just the same as hiltard losing the election. Manufactured facts are not facts.


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RW is use to kangaroo courts, he feels uncomfortable with an honest court.
Will Senate proceedings be a kangaroo court?

McConnell has repeatedly indicated they will be
 
I'm not going there and say so what if Trump's guilty. The Articles are total partisan bullshit. So why even give Nancy a talking point?
Article-2 is dead, the USSC killed it. Trump does have the right of due process, and that is NOT "Obstruction of the House"
Article-1 is dead, hearsay evidence is NOT allowed in the senate.

What part of Due Process was denied?
 
It is more like the.......I can shoot someone on Fifth Avenue and Republicans won’t convict me defense

Bullshit rhetoric like this becomes what dims then refer to as facts. And think they can get away with it. Good luck with whatever geriatric they put up against him.


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It is the truth as many Republicans admit to not even reading the charges

Three+Wise+Monkeys+Hear+No+Evil+See+No+Evil+Speak+No+Evil+Body+Language+Nonverbal+Communication+Expert+Expert+Speaker+Speaker+Dr+Jack+Brown+Dr+Jack+Brown+Las+Vegas+Southern+California.jpg

I watched everything. It’s bullshit and you know it. I really hope that shitt, polosi, schrumer, nads, and some other idiots get subpoenaed to testify. It would be interesting to see them destroyed, and fall flat on their incompetent lying faces. It time to put up or STFU! But you pussies won’t be satisfied, just the same as hiltard losing the election. Manufactured facts are not facts.


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RW is use to kangaroo courts, he feels uncomfortable with an honest court.
Will Senate proceedings be a kangaroo court?

McConnell has repeatedly indicated they will be
If the Clinton Impeachment rules for the Senate were considered a Kangaroo Court....yes.

But, the Schiff House rules were definitely considered a Kargaroo court.
 
It is more like the.......I can shoot someone on Fifth Avenue and Republicans won’t convict me defense

Bullshit rhetoric like this becomes what dims then refer to as facts. And think they can get away with it. Good luck with whatever geriatric they put up against him.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
It is the truth as many Republicans admit to not even reading the charges

Three+Wise+Monkeys+Hear+No+Evil+See+No+Evil+Speak+No+Evil+Body+Language+Nonverbal+Communication+Expert+Expert+Speaker+Speaker+Dr+Jack+Brown+Dr+Jack+Brown+Las+Vegas+Southern+California.jpg

I watched everything. It’s bullshit and you know it. I really hope that shitt, polosi, schrumer, nads, and some other idiots get subpoenaed to testify. It would be interesting to see them destroyed, and fall flat on their incompetent lying faces. It time to put up or STFU! But you pussies won’t be satisfied, just the same as hiltard losing the election. Manufactured facts are not facts.


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RW is use to kangaroo courts, he feels uncomfortable with an honest court.
Will Senate proceedings be a kangaroo court?

McConnell has repeatedly indicated they will be
Will you accept the results of the 2016 election?

Or will you go to Putin to beg him to make another dirty dossier for you?
 
I'm not going there and say so what if Trump's guilty. The Articles are total partisan bullshit. So why even give Nancy a talking point?
Article-2 is dead, the USSC killed it. Trump does have the right of due process, and that is NOT "Obstruction of the House"
Article-1 is dead, hearsay evidence is NOT allowed in the senate.

What part of Due Process was denied?
Where have you been? The House proceedings did not give Due Process....as the rules according to Schiff.
The minority did not have their day like the Nixon impeachment proceedings and the Clinton impeachment proceedings.
 
I'm not going there and say so what if Trump's guilty. The Articles are total partisan bullshit. So why even give Nancy a talking point?
Article-2 is dead, the USSC killed it. Trump does have the right of due process, and that is NOT "Obstruction of the House"
Article-1 is dead, hearsay evidence is NOT allowed in the senate.

What part of Due Process was denied?
Pretty much ALL OF IT.

Due Process Clause - Wikipedia

Procedural due process
Procedural due process requires government officials to follow fair procedures before depriving a person of life, liberty, or property.[25]:657 When the government seeks to deprive a person of one of those interests, procedural due process requires the government to afford the person, at minimum, notice, an opportunity to be heard, and a decision made by a neutral decisionmaker.

This protection extends to all government proceedings that can result in an individual's deprivation, whether civil or criminal in nature, from parole violation hearings to administrative hearings regarding government benefits and entitlements to full-blown criminal trials. These rights, which apply equally to civil due process and criminal due process, are:[26]

  1. An unbiased tribunal.
  2. Notice of the proposed action and the grounds asserted for it.
  3. Opportunity to present reasons why the proposed action should not be taken.
  4. The right to present evidence, including the right to call witnesses.
  5. The right to know opposing evidence.
  6. The right to cross-examine adverse witnesses.
  7. A decision based exclusively on the evidence presented.
  8. Opportunity to be represented by counsel.
  9. Requirement that the tribunal prepares a record of the evidence presented.
  10. Requirement that the tribunal prepares written findings of fact and reasons for its decision.
 
I have listened to you

but you are not making sense
I have listened to you

but you are not making sense

Becauae you're incompetent.
I am competent enough to realize that liberals are sore losers who cant accept the fact that trump won an election they expected to win

You answer with further incompetence.

That reason is not listed anywhere in articles of impeachment.
Nor does it have to be for us to know whats motivating you

Again your incompetence fails you.
Sorry but you are mistaken as usual
 
I've heard several Trump supporters say that even if everything Trump has been accused of is true - it's not impeachable. Is that a reasonable defense? What do you think?

It has long been obvious that Republicans would ultimately converge on this final defense of President Trump: Even if he did everything he has been accused of doing, and perhaps a lot more that we don’t know about, it’s absolutely fine!

We now have a particularly ugly preview of what this defense may look like, as Trump’s Senate trial gets underway. On Sean Hannity’s Thursday night show, former Republican National Committee chair Reince Priebus said:

Sometimes the best defense is the ‘so what’ defense. If everything the Democrats said is true, it’s still not impeachable. If everything Lev Parnas said is true, it’s still not impeachable. That’s what this is about.

What’s truly perverse here is that if Trump did nothing wrong, then no one could speak to that more forcefully than the witnesses Democrats want to hear from, and who Trump and McConnell desperately do not. If withholding the aid was correct on the merits, why not hear from those directly involved in that decision?

The answer is that Trump and McConnell know Trump did engage in profoundly corrupt, impeachable conduct. Trump used the power of his office — and the conditioning of official acts, including withholding hundreds of millions in appropriated military aid from a vulnerable ally — to strong-arm that ally into manufacturing disinformation to corrupt the 2020 election on his behalf.

More: Hannity previews Trump’s final defense: So what if he’s guilty?
It's utter bullshit. His loyal oompah loompahs will buy it, but nobody else.
 
I've heard several Trump supporters say that even if everything Trump has been accused of is true - it's not impeachable. Is that a reasonable defense? What do you think?

Since asshole sore LOSER Democrats skipped right past censure to impeachment we pretty much don't give a shit what you freaks say or think about president Trump. :eusa_hand:
 
It is more like the.......I can shoot someone on Fifth Avenue and Republicans won’t convict me defense

Bullshit rhetoric like this becomes what dims then refer to as facts. And think they can get away with it. Good luck with whatever geriatric they put up against him.


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It is the truth as many Republicans admit to not even reading the charges

Three+Wise+Monkeys+Hear+No+Evil+See+No+Evil+Speak+No+Evil+Body+Language+Nonverbal+Communication+Expert+Expert+Speaker+Speaker+Dr+Jack+Brown+Dr+Jack+Brown+Las+Vegas+Southern+California.jpg

I watched everything. It’s bullshit and you know it. I really hope that shitt, polosi, schrumer, nads, and some other idiots get subpoenaed to testify. It would be interesting to see them destroyed, and fall flat on their incompetent lying faces. It time to put up or STFU! But you pussies won’t be satisfied, just the same as hiltard losing the election. Manufactured facts are not facts.


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RW is use to kangaroo courts, he feels uncomfortable with an honest court.
Will Senate proceedings be a kangaroo court?

McConnell has repeatedly indicated they will be

Apparently they have an established standards. If the dim dribble doesn’t make the cut, it’s history. Many courts throw things out on a routine basis. Ask any of your criminal constituents that have filed bullshit, only to have their feelings and egos hurt [emoji17]. Don’t cry [emoji24], shitt happens.


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Becauae you're incompetent.
I am competent enough to realize that liberals are sore losers who cant accept the fact that trump won an election they expected to win

You answer with further incompetence.

That reason is not listed anywhere in articles of impeachment.
Nor does it have to be for us to know whats motivating you

Again your incompetence fails you.
Sorry but you are mistaken as usual

Not at all.
Your dopey generalization as to what is motivating the impeachment is indicative of a mind that is unable to grasp and understand the series of events that has led us to where we are. So, instead of outing yourself as dumb as shit by saying you don't understand, you, not unlike your retarded bretheren, opt instead to hide behind the relative safety of a handful of dopey narratives.

IOW, failure by incompetence.
 
I am competent enough to realize that liberals are sore losers who cant accept the fact that trump won an election they expected to win

You answer with further incompetence.

That reason is not listed anywhere in articles of impeachment.
Nor does it have to be for us to know whats motivating you

Again your incompetence fails you.
Sorry but you are mistaken as usual

Not at all.
Your dopey generalization as to what is motivating the impeachment is indicative of a mind that is unable to grasp and understand the series of events that has led us to where we are. So, instead of outing yourself as dumb as shit by saying you don't understand, you, not unlike your retarded bretheren, opt instead to hide behind the relative safety of a handful of dopey narratives.

IOW, failure by incompetence.
I know liberals do not like to hear it

the truth makes you look petty and vindictive

but you are motivated and driven by lies about trump
 
Bullshit rhetoric like this becomes what dims then refer to as facts. And think they can get away with it. Good luck with whatever geriatric they put up against him.


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It is the truth as many Republicans admit to not even reading the charges

Three+Wise+Monkeys+Hear+No+Evil+See+No+Evil+Speak+No+Evil+Body+Language+Nonverbal+Communication+Expert+Expert+Speaker+Speaker+Dr+Jack+Brown+Dr+Jack+Brown+Las+Vegas+Southern+California.jpg

I watched everything. It’s bullshit and you know it. I really hope that shitt, polosi, schrumer, nads, and some other idiots get subpoenaed to testify. It would be interesting to see them destroyed, and fall flat on their incompetent lying faces. It time to put up or STFU! But you pussies won’t be satisfied, just the same as hiltard losing the election. Manufactured facts are not facts.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
RW is use to kangaroo courts, he feels uncomfortable with an honest court.
Will Senate proceedings be a kangaroo court?

McConnell has repeatedly indicated they will be
Will you accept the results of the 2016 election?

Or will you go to Putin to beg him to make another dirty dossier for you?

How ironic and hypocritical. When they thought hilly was a lock, they asked Don if he would concede. What a joke.


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I've heard several Trump supporters say that even if everything Trump has been accused of is true - it's not impeachable. Is that a reasonable defense? What do you think?

It has long been obvious that Republicans would ultimately converge on this final defense of President Trump: Even if he did everything he has been accused of doing, and perhaps a lot more that we don’t know about, it’s absolutely fine!

We now have a particularly ugly preview of what this defense may look like, as Trump’s Senate trial gets underway. On Sean Hannity’s Thursday night show, former Republican National Committee chair Reince Priebus said:

Sometimes the best defense is the ‘so what’ defense. If everything the Democrats said is true, it’s still not impeachable. If everything Lev Parnas said is true, it’s still not impeachable. That’s what this is about.

What’s truly perverse here is that if Trump did nothing wrong, then no one could speak to that more forcefully than the witnesses Democrats want to hear from, and who Trump and McConnell desperately do not. If withholding the aid was correct on the merits, why not hear from those directly involved in that decision?

The answer is that Trump and McConnell know Trump did engage in profoundly corrupt, impeachable conduct. Trump used the power of his office — and the conditioning of official acts, including withholding hundreds of millions in appropriated military aid from a vulnerable ally — to strong-arm that ally into manufacturing disinformation to corrupt the 2020 election on his behalf.

More: Hannity previews Trump’s final defense: So what if he’s guilty?
It's utter bullshit. His loyal oompah loompahs will buy it, but nobody else.
What Biden did threatening to with hold aid from Ukraine unless they fired the attorney investigating Biden's son, apparently was completely legal. There was an actual Quid Pro Quo. Biden threatened and extorted Ukraine, and Ukraine got Hunter Biden off the hook.
 
I've heard several Trump supporters say that even if everything Trump has been accused of is true - it's not impeachable. Is that a reasonable defense? What do you think?

It has long been obvious that Republicans would ultimately converge on this final defense of President Trump: Even if he did everything he has been accused of doing, and perhaps a lot more that we don’t know about, it’s absolutely fine!

We now have a particularly ugly preview of what this defense may look like, as Trump’s Senate trial gets underway. On Sean Hannity’s Thursday night show, former Republican National Committee chair Reince Priebus said:

Sometimes the best defense is the ‘so what’ defense. If everything the Democrats said is true, it’s still not impeachable. If everything Lev Parnas said is true, it’s still not impeachable. That’s what this is about.

What’s truly perverse here is that if Trump did nothing wrong, then no one could speak to that more forcefully than the witnesses Democrats want to hear from, and who Trump and McConnell desperately do not. If withholding the aid was correct on the merits, why not hear from those directly involved in that decision?

The answer is that Trump and McConnell know Trump did engage in profoundly corrupt, impeachable conduct. Trump used the power of his office — and the conditioning of official acts, including withholding hundreds of millions in appropriated military aid from a vulnerable ally — to strong-arm that ally into manufacturing disinformation to corrupt the 2020 election on his behalf.

More: Hannity previews Trump’s final defense: So what if he’s guilty?
It's utter bullshit. His loyal oompah loompahs will buy it, but nobody else.
What Biden did threatening to with hold aid from Ukraine unless they fired the attorney investigating Biden's son, apparently was completely legal. There was an actual Quid Pro Quo. Biden threatened and extorted Ukraine, and Ukraine got Hunter Biden off the hook.
Crap on a crutch, this thing again?

It wasn't Biden, son. It was the whole Western world. And it wasn't for Biden's benefit.

How many times do you morons need to be told the same damn thing?
 

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