pbel
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Let all of us Americans join together in support of AIPAC. As long as we have AIPAC there will never be sharia law in the USA.montelatici, et al,
So your point is that the root cause of the conflict is based on religious outcomes?
(COMMENT)It's it my anecdotal experience is that once Christians realize that the European Jews did more harm to the Christian population of Palestine than the Muslim one, in terms of per-capita wealth and land stolen, they turn against Israel.
So the measurement of Harm to Christians (what harm was caused by Jews versus what harm would have been caused by Muslims) is a basis for sovereignty. I don't buy that.
If one examines the top 10 countries that are known for religious persecution, you'll find that 7 of the 10 are countries where Muslims persecute Christians. The Jewish religious affiliation did not harm the indigenous Christians ---- or the Muslims for that matter ---- in terms of wealth and land. It was something else; not just one reason, but a summation of many reasons.
Personally, I don't believe the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict is religious based; that is to say that the moral belief structure has an overriding influence on the reasoning behind the struggle. With most Muslim Cultures is about power and influence over people and territory.
The initial reference frames and catalyst for the conflict rests with the post-World War I sequence of events --- and the League of Nations decision to establish a Class "A" Mandate over the territories that came under the control of the Allied Powers. While the Mandates were suppose to be temporal in nature, and a process by which various territories would eventually receive autonomy and independence (and eventually became true for Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, Kuwait and Jordan --- success to about 90%) there was a secondary agenda of establishing a Jewish National Homeland for the protection and preservation of the Jewish People as a culture. As it evolved, the Arab Population rejected the Jewish Immigration politically, economically and culturally; giving rise to an anti-Jewish social establishment; but, not based on religious grounds. The Jewish immigration, largely from Europe, brought with them the knowledge, skills and abilities acquired from their previous homelands (Central Europe) that were Eastern based and the produce of an advanced scientific and industrial civilization; very different from the Arab Culture to which they were transplanting. And the arrival of these new KSA's (concentrated in the Jewish Immigrant Communities) gave rise to a difference socially, politically, economically and commercially.
The Arab Palestinians are a culture of people that are not very industrious. In the last half century, one can do a comparative analysis of the Jewish State to the Arab State and just see (prima facia evidence through direct observation) that the Arabs (whether refugee or not) did little in comparison to the Israelis, in the furtherance of their culture or infrastructure that would advance their nation in terms of wealth and prosperity.
Most Respectfully,
R
What a crock of sh--...The Palestinians are the Most Educated people in the ME even though they live under the Israeli Boot at the point of a gun, yet parrots like you dance to this crock...
Education
Palestinians were always the most educated of the Arab peoples and they are determined to keep standards up. Many Palestinians are today running Jordan. It is wholly mistaken to think of Palestinians (or indeed Bedouins) as ‘primitive farmers’, even though they may be living in near Third World conditions. Not infrequently Palestinians have doctorates.
They can have diplomas' stacked up in every room it does not make them industrious. Ask any employer what job he would give a Palestinian with his many diplomas and they would reply NONE. No industrialised nation will take a Palestinian on as they have no experience of the work involved, they are purely academics with no practical experience. On top of this their academic achievements are ignored by the rest of the world as being useless because they are not hard enough, and many with doctorates from Palestine struggle to get year one achievements outside of Palestine. They are not even good enough to be toilet cleaners outside of Palestine. If they were so good they would have invented the ultimate doomsday weapon and used it against Israel, instead they still use 60 year old technology
Industrious under an extreme occupation, where Israel occasionally freezes their revenues? You just may be the dumbest AH who ever visited these boards!