The Second Greatest Political Lie

[PoliticalChic]

A Republican senator described the NRA as having gone “too far in the Russian direction,” and a Democrat accused FDR of trying “to transplant Hitlerism to every corner of this country.”
Schivelbusch, “Three New Deals,” p. 27.

Accusations are not arguments.

I never argue.

I simply provide the links, quotes and documentation that proves what I say.

But you know that.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Mindless zealots...

Case closed.

Do you want to take the position that the Nazis were liberals,

and debate that with me? Proceed.

I will.

And I'll prove it.

Stay with the thread....if you dare.



Of course, defeating you has never proven much of a chore.....

Prove that the policy of having a large strong military, is both a Nazi policy and a liberal policy,

and not a conservative policy.

Hmmmm......

...I sense a palpable fear on your part.


The outcome is well anticipated.
Good.

So you've given up already.

So THAT'S why you're known as the NYLiar!

 

[NYcarbineer]

A Republican senator described the NRA as having gone “too far in the Russian direction,” and a Democrat accused FDR of trying “to transplant Hitlerism to every corner of this country.”
Schivelbusch, “Three New Deals,” p. 27.

Accusations are not arguments.

I never argue.

I simply provide the links, quotes and documentation that proves what I say.

But you know that.

No, you never argue. You cut and paste other people's arguments under the delusion that they are factual and relevant.

Was Reagan a Nazi or not when he was an FDR Democrat?

Let's see some cut and pastes to refute your own logic, which is:

FDR was a Liberal. Nazis are liberals. Therefore FDR was a Nazi.

Reagan was an FDR Liberal. Nazis are liberals. Therefore Reagan was a Nazi.

Prove yourself either right or wrong in the above.

 

[PoliticalChic]

In political parlance, a lie is not just something that is not true, but something that is untrue, but serves the purpose of advancing a political agenda.


1. Georges Eugène Sorel (2 November 1847 in Cherbourg – 29 August 1922 in Boulogne-sur-Seine) was a French philosopher and theorist of revolutionary syndicalism. His notion of the power of myth in people's lives inspired Marxists and Fascists, it is, together with his defense of violence, the contribution for which he is most often remembered. Georges Sorel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

a. His identification of the need for a deliberately-conceived "myth" to sway crowds into concerted action was put to use by the Fascist and Communist movements of the 1920s and after. http://homepage.newschool.edu/het//profiles/sorel.htm

b. "For Sen. [Hillary] Clinton, something is true if it validates the myth of her striving and her "greatness" (her overweening ambition in other words) and only ceases to be true when it no longer serves that limitless purpose. "
The case against Hillary Clinton. - By Christopher Hitchens - Slate Magazine]




2. The 'Greatest Lie" is the one that the modern Liberals tell. They claim that those called Liberals today are the liberals who founded this great nation. Nothing could be further from the truth. The Founders were 'classical liberals,' whose vision included . individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government. That's why they wrote out a detailed Constitution.

a. Communist John Dewey, the one who corrupted education in this country, convinced the Socialist Party to change its name to 'Liberal.' And it's values and doctrines formed those called Liberals today.


The benefit to them, of course, is that the uninformed attribute the greatness of the Founders, of America, to them.




3. The "Second Greatest Lie" is also designed to benefit Leftists. It is that the political spectrum has communists on the left, and the Nazis on the right. It is a conscious and carefully crafted lie. And it is because the Left controls the schools and the media that it has been allowed to survive.

This is what a careful study of history shows:
When the worldwide recession, known as the Great Depression, caused many to believe that capitalism had failed, big government command and control economies took control, promising solutions.

The economic plans of Mussolini, Adolph Hitler, Joseph Stalin and Franklin Roosevelt were all variations on the same theme.

a. Many government school grads have been trained to see FDR as a demigod.
"Comparisons of the New Deal with totalitarian ideologies were provided from all sides. A Republican senator described the NRA as having gone “too far in the Russian direction,” and a Democrat accused FDR of trying “to transplant Hitlerism to every corner of this country.” Wolfgang Schivelbusch, “Three New Deals,” p. 27.



This thread will expound on that "Second Greatest Lie."
By doing so, it will explain why Leftist government schools won't teach real history.

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The GREATEST LIE is the crap in your post.

Spoken like a true Liberal!

1. Barnyard vulgarity is your version of 'articulate.'

2. Unable to find any thing untrue or inaccurate.

3. Can be counted on to never provide any more insightful post than some version of "is not, is noooottttttt!"


I can never tell if the problem is genetic deprivation, or government schooling.
Which do you blame?

 

[PaintMyHouse]

In political parlance, a lie is not just something that is not true, but something that is untrue, but serves the purpose of advancing a political agenda.


1. Georges Eugène Sorel (2 November 1847 in Cherbourg – 29 August 1922 in Boulogne-sur-Seine) was a French philosopher and theorist of revolutionary syndicalism. His notion of the power of myth in people's lives inspired Marxists and Fascists, it is, together with his defense of violence, the contribution for which he is most often remembered. Georges Sorel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

a. His identification of the need for a deliberately-conceived "myth" to sway crowds into concerted action was put to use by the Fascist and Communist movements of the 1920s and after. http://homepage.newschool.edu/het//profiles/sorel.htm

b. "For Sen. [Hillary] Clinton, something is true if it validates the myth of her striving and her "greatness" (her overweening ambition in other words) and only ceases to be true when it no longer serves that limitless purpose. "
The case against Hillary Clinton. - By Christopher Hitchens - Slate Magazine]




2. The 'Greatest Lie" is the one that the modern Liberals tell. They claim that those called Liberals today are the liberals who founded this great nation. Nothing could be further from the truth. The Founders were 'classical liberals,' whose vision included . individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government. That's why they wrote out a detailed Constitution.

a. Communist John Dewey, the one who corrupted education in this country, convinced the Socialist Party to change its name to 'Liberal.' And it's values and doctrines formed those called Liberals today.


The benefit to them, of course, is that the uninformed attribute the greatness of the Founders, of America, to them.




3. The "Second Greatest Lie" is also designed to benefit Leftists. It is that the political spectrum has communists on the left, and the Nazis on the right. It is a conscious and carefully crafted lie. And it is because the Left controls the schools and the media that it has been allowed to survive.

This is what a careful study of history shows:
When the worldwide recession, known as the Great Depression, caused many to believe that capitalism had failed, big government command and control economies took control, promising solutions.

The economic plans of Mussolini, Adolph Hitler, Joseph Stalin and Franklin Roosevelt were all variations on the same theme.

a. Many government school grads have been trained to see FDR as a demigod.
"Comparisons of the New Deal with totalitarian ideologies were provided from all sides. A Republican senator described the NRA as having gone “too far in the Russian direction,” and a Democrat accused FDR of trying “to transplant Hitlerism to every corner of this country.” Wolfgang Schivelbusch, “Three New Deals,” p. 27.



This thread will expound on that "Second Greatest Lie."
By doing so, it will explain why Leftist government schools won't teach real history.

Noble lie
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"In politics, a noble lie is a myth or untruth, often, but not invariably, of a religious nature, knowingly told by an elite to maintain social harmony or to advance an agenda. The noble lie is a concept originated by Plato as described in the Republic.

In religion, a pious fiction is a narrative that is presented as true by the author, but is considered by others to be fictional albeit produced with an altruistic motivation. The term is sometimes used pejoratively to suggest that the author of the narrative was deliberately misleading readers for selfish or deceitful reasons. The term is often used in religious contexts, sometimes referring to passages in religious texts."
Noble lie - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Pete7469]

So THAT'S why you're known as the NYLiar!

I like NYCrackhead.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Do you want to take the position that the Nazis were liberals,

and debate that with me? Proceed.

I will.

And I'll prove it.

Stay with the thread....if you dare.



Of course, defeating you has never proven much of a chore.....

Prove that the policy of having a large strong military, is both a Nazi policy and a liberal policy,

and not a conservative policy.

Hmmmm......

...I sense a palpable fear on your part.


The outcome is well anticipated.
Good.

So you've given up already.

So THAT'S why you're known as the NYLiar!

If I were to call you a C*** in every other post, would that strengthen my arguments on the topic?

Ponder that while you obsess on resorting to namecalling in lieu of substance.

 

[Pete7469]

I can never tell if the problem is genetic deprivation, or government schooling.
Which do you blame?

In the case of many of the moonbats on this forum it's clearly genetic. We've reversed the natural order with excessive safety precautions that keep blithering imbeciles like this alive.

Parasites like these used to electrocute themselves with hair dryers in bathtubs. I'm not saying we should kill all the stupid people, but perhaps getting rid of child proof lids and barriers at rail road crossings would be helpful.

 

[PoliticalChic]

A Republican senator described the NRA as having gone “too far in the Russian direction,” and a Democrat accused FDR of trying “to transplant Hitlerism to every corner of this country.”
Schivelbusch, “Three New Deals,” p. 27.

Accusations are not arguments.

I never argue.

I simply provide the links, quotes and documentation that proves what I say.

But you know that.

No, you never argue. You cut and paste other people's arguments under the delusion that they are factual and relevant.

Was Reagan a Nazi or not when he was an FDR Democrat?

Let's see some cut and pastes to refute your own logic, which is:

FDR was a Liberal. Nazis are liberals. Therefore FDR was a Nazi.

Reagan was an FDR Liberal. Nazis are liberals. Therefore Reagan was a Nazi.

Prove yourself either right or wrong in the above.

"No, you never argue. You cut and paste other people's arguments under the delusion that they are factual and relevant."

The Liberal white flag this early????

'Cut and paste' is not the slightest of refutations.
It is a dodge Liberals/fools use to avoid confronting the truth.



I would say 'you can do better,' but it would be my first error ever.

 

[Pete7469]

 

[PoliticalChic]

I will.

And I'll prove it.

Stay with the thread....if you dare.



Of course, defeating you has never proven much of a chore.....

Prove that the policy of having a large strong military, is both a Nazi policy and a liberal policy,

and not a conservative policy.

Hmmmm......

...I sense a palpable fear on your part.


The outcome is well anticipated.
Good.

So you've given up already.

So THAT'S why you're known as the NYLiar!

If I were to call you a C*** in every other post, would that strengthen my arguments on the topic?

Ponder that while you obsess on resorting to namecalling in lieu of substance.

1. I never resort to vulgarity.
Time and again, when folks realize they have been skewered, that they have no adequate response to truth that destroys their worldview, their most closely held beliefs, their language falls to the vulgar.

....your anger at being bested leaks out as vulgarity.

It explains why I never have to.


2. 'Namecalling'...e.g., referring to you as a liar, is more than reasonable as I have revealed you to be so numerous times.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

"FDR was a Liberal. Nazis are liberals. Therefore FDR was a Nazi.

Reagan was an FDR Liberal. Nazis are liberals. Therefore Reagan was a Nazi."

Not only is this wrong but it's ignorant idiocy.

Nazis were not 'liberals.'

Nazis, and fascism in general, are on the right side of the political spectrum – authoritarian, reactionary, fearful of, and hostile to, change, diversity, and dissent; nothing whatsoever like 'liberals.'

 

[PoliticalChic]

In political parlance, a lie is not just something that is not true, but something that is untrue, but serves the purpose of advancing a political agenda.


1. Georges Eugène Sorel (2 November 1847 in Cherbourg – 29 August 1922 in Boulogne-sur-Seine) was a French philosopher and theorist of revolutionary syndicalism. His notion of the power of myth in people's lives inspired Marxists and Fascists, it is, together with his defense of violence, the contribution for which he is most often remembered. Georges Sorel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

a. His identification of the need for a deliberately-conceived "myth" to sway crowds into concerted action was put to use by the Fascist and Communist movements of the 1920s and after. http://homepage.newschool.edu/het//profiles/sorel.htm

b. "For Sen. [Hillary] Clinton, something is true if it validates the myth of her striving and her "greatness" (her overweening ambition in other words) and only ceases to be true when it no longer serves that limitless purpose. "
The case against Hillary Clinton. - By Christopher Hitchens - Slate Magazine]




2. The 'Greatest Lie" is the one that the modern Liberals tell. They claim that those called Liberals today are the liberals who founded this great nation. Nothing could be further from the truth. The Founders were 'classical liberals,' whose vision included . individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government. That's why they wrote out a detailed Constitution.

a. Communist John Dewey, the one who corrupted education in this country, convinced the Socialist Party to change its name to 'Liberal.' And it's values and doctrines formed those called Liberals today.


The benefit to them, of course, is that the uninformed attribute the greatness of the Founders, of America, to them.




3. The "Second Greatest Lie" is also designed to benefit Leftists. It is that the political spectrum has communists on the left, and the Nazis on the right. It is a conscious and carefully crafted lie. And it is because the Left controls the schools and the media that it has been allowed to survive.

This is what a careful study of history shows:
When the worldwide recession, known as the Great Depression, caused many to believe that capitalism had failed, big government command and control economies took control, promising solutions.

The economic plans of Mussolini, Adolph Hitler, Joseph Stalin and Franklin Roosevelt were all variations on the same theme.

a. Many government school grads have been trained to see FDR as a demigod.
"Comparisons of the New Deal with totalitarian ideologies were provided from all sides. A Republican senator described the NRA as having gone “too far in the Russian direction,” and a Democrat accused FDR of trying “to transplant Hitlerism to every corner of this country.” Wolfgang Schivelbusch, “Three New Deals,” p. 27.



This thread will expound on that "Second Greatest Lie."
By doing so, it will explain why Leftist government schools won't teach real history.

Noble lie
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"In politics, a noble lie is a myth or untruth, often, but not invariably, of a religious nature, knowingly told by an elite to maintain social harmony or to advance an agenda. The noble lie is a concept originated by Plato as described in the Republic.

In religion, a pious fiction is a narrative that is presented as true by the author, but is considered by others to be fictional albeit produced with an altruistic motivation. The term is sometimes used pejoratively to suggest that the author of the narrative was deliberately misleading readers for selfish or deceitful reasons. The term is often used in religious contexts, sometimes referring to passages in religious texts."
Noble lie - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Here you are, grinding your teeth due to the OP.....yet you are unable to refute, or even give any examples of errors in same.

So stipulated: every single thing I've posted is true, correct, and accurate.


Thanks for dropping by.

 

[PoliticalChic]

I can never tell if the problem is genetic deprivation, or government schooling.
Which do you blame?

In the case of many of the moonbats on this forum it's clearly genetic. We've reversed the natural order with excessive safety precautions that keep blithering imbeciles like this alive.

Parasites like these used to electrocute themselves with hair dryers in bathtubs. I'm not saying we should kill all the stupid people, but perhaps getting rid of child proof lids and barriers at rail road crossings would be helpful.

True....and I always wonder how they have time to post, with all the time they spend following the directions on shampoo bottles.

 

[PoliticalChic]

"FDR was a Liberal. Nazis are liberals. Therefore FDR was a Nazi.

Reagan was an FDR Liberal. Nazis are liberals. Therefore Reagan was a Nazi."

Not only is this wrong but it's ignorant idiocy.

Nazis were not 'liberals.'

Nazis, and fascism in general, are on the right side of the political spectrum – authoritarian, reactionary, fearful of, and hostile to, change, diversity, and dissent; nothing whatsoever like 'liberals.'

"Nazis, and fascism in general, are on the right side of the political spectrum –"

Left side. I'll prove it.

Stay tuned for the education you missed, and are in sore need of.


And....forgive me for ending the sentence with a preposition.

 

[PoliticalChic]

6. Progressives/Liberals/Democrats were thrilled with their association with the dictators Mussolini, Hitler, and Stalin, and had no problem co-opting their programs.....


And, btw, Hitler did the same for the Progressives, co-opting their eugenics programs.
"In 1923, Fritz Lenz, a German physician and geneticist advocate of forced sterilization–a man who became one of the leading advocates of the Nazi’s “racial hygiene” program–criticized his countrymen for lagging behind the United States in the enactment of sterilization laws. In June, 1933, several months after Hitler became Chancellor of the Third Reich, the Nazis began to catch up in earnest. Eugenics, American Progressivism, and the 'German Idea of the State' - Online Library of Law & Liberty


a. Hitler wrote to the president of the American Eugenics Society to ask for a copy of his“The Case for Sterilization.” (Margaret Sanger and Sterilization) German race science stood on American Progressive’s shoulders.




And there is the basis for "The Second Greatest Lie."

The Liberals/Progressives could not allow succeeding generations of voters to recognize their association with Hitler and the Holocaust, and see the consequences of their closely held beliefs.

Before WW II, the same folks who championed Progressivism, viewed fascism as a noble economic agenda, and praised Mussolini.

It was the horrors of the Holocaust that required both the rapid retreat from associations with the term fascism, and the rebranding by John Dewey of progressivism as liberalism.

W.E.B.DuBois, a leader of the Progressive movement, suggested that National Socialism seemed an excellent model for economic organization. http://www.ghi-dc.org/files/publications/bu_supp/supp5/supp5_099.pdf


Liberals/Progressives marched shoulder to shoulder with Nazis and Fascists.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Liberals/Progressives marched shoulder to shoulder with Nazis and Fascists.

That must be why under both of those they were killed, or forced to run for their lives.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Liberals/Progressives marched shoulder to shoulder with Nazis and Fascists.

That must be why under both of those they were killed, or forced to run for their lives.

Still unable to find a single error in any of my posts?

See if you can connect those dots.




BTW.....two totalitarian brotherhoods, Nazis and communists, also killed lots of each others members.

It merely proves the homicidal nature of every one of their iterations.



And it explains why every presidential assassin in the history of the nation has been a liberal- or has not been associated with a political outlook- none were right-wingers.

 

[Dot Com]

libertylaw as a source? Please tell me that is not from Liberty University (Bachmann's alma mater.)

And no, I'm not clicking on any of PoliticalSpices links and begin getting a barrage of pop-ups from the likes of NewsMaax & The American Spectator

 

[PoliticalChic]

libertylaw as a source? Please tell me that is not from Liberty University (Bachmann's alma mater.)

And no, I'm not clicking on any of PoliticalSpices links and begin getting a barrage of pop-ups from t/he likes of NewsMaax & The American Spectator

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So...that's the technique they teach in government schools?
Bluff?

When you don't enough to rebut the point, claim that complaining about the source is good enough?

That must be why your educational award, the GED, is known as the 'good enough diploma.'



And....if disqualifying the source is what you do, I guess you no longer use Arabic numerals after 9/11.


Gads, you're a dunce.