The Rise of a New Black Conservative Movement

Until now, Black Conservatives were expected to act like Uncle Toms, spouting Conservative blame the victim rhetoric.

“Uncle Tom”?
Is that a seemingly intelligent black who can articulate the English language?
“Blame the victim rhetoric”?
WTF...who does/says that?
Do you mean blame the stoned black who’s out at 3am and refusing to follow orders given by officers?
 
"We emphasize truth over narrative … We do not obsess over racism as many do on the left..."

Forgive this but how are you gonna get in line with that sort of thinking when every one of your posts and seeming all of your "thinking" seem to be exactly the opposite?

I'm to believe you are suddenly gonna GTF up?
 
These black conservatives do not get the exposure by the RWM as the Candice Owens types and it is done on purpose.

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The Rise of a New Black Conservative Movement
January 1, 2020 by Jeff Charles

It is a new year, and a new decade. Changes are occurring in American politics. The Democratic Party is currently embroiled in a heated war between the establishment and far-left progressive factions. The Republican Party is also caught in a conflict between its own establishment and those who want to bring change.

But there is another evolution occurring, especially on the right, one that has gone largely unnoticed until now. This change is happening in the realm of the black conservative movement with a growing number of right-leaning black Americans pushing for a change in GOP and the overall conservative movement. In essence, they are a new breed of black conservatives, and if their efforts are successful, it could make an immense mark on the nation’s political landscape.

If you have read my work regarding the conservative movement’s relationship — or lack thereof — with the black community, you have seen some of the ideas we espouse. Our message differs from that of the traditional black conservative establishment in that it emphasizes a different view of, and approach to, the black community. We recognize that the messaging strategies used by the black conservative establishment, though well-intentioned, have been woefully impotent when it comes to reaching black American voters. It is time for a new approach.

So what does this look like?

It looks like conservatives talking about blacks as people deserving of dignity instead of treating them as mentally inferior. It means seeing them as fellow Americans instead of slaves on a fictional plantation. It means emphasizing truth over narrative and seeking a genuine understanding of those we wish to reach instead of relying on lazy stereotypes and meaningless platitudes. It means not being limited by the statistics the media selects for us and digging deeper to understand the true issues facing the black community. We do not obsess over racism as many do on the left, but we also do not discount its impact as many do on the right.

Instead of a conservative movement that relies on talking points and narratives lacking nuance, the new black conservative movement seeks to foster a holistic understanding of the black community. This means promoting a real understanding of the black community, its culture, and its history. Rather than holding events that are ostensibly tailored to reaching black voters, but are attended by mostly non-blacks, we wish to see the Republican Party, right-leaning media, and conservative organizations engage directly with black Americans in their communities.

We favor an approach that involves up-close conversation and discourse instead of the mindless repeating of banal platitudes about Chicago’s homicide rates from a distance. The non-establishment black conservative wants to sell the virtues of conservative policies that promote free enterprise rather than only bashing socialism.

Our focus isn’t just on Trump and the presidency; it is on winning black voters at the local and state levels, and in the legislative branch. We’re more likely to favor an organization like the Empower America Project, which is training minority and women candidates to run for office, over a group like Blexit, which has failed to reach black Americans because it still uses the traditional black conservative messaging strategy.


Now these are black conservatives I can work with or even become a part of.

Black, Hispanic, Asian, or any other race conservatives are welcome in my world. I view any of them as equals in the struggle against liberalism, globalism, and communism, no less or more than I would any white conservative or Trump-supporting Republican.
 
...What have Republicans offered black communities other than prisons ?
Why should they offer them anything at all?

Democrats are no better in their treatment of Blacks... they're just more subtle about it than their Republican counterparts.

" Vote Democrat !!! Come out and vote !!! We need you !!! Strength in numbers !!! "

And then the inner-city urban-plantation Black Folk vote (D) just like they were told to do.

And, once the Dems win, they go on their way, and ignore the Black folk for another four years, until they need 'em again at the polls.

Oh, Dems will "offer" ( lure / bribe ) Blacks with a few more goodies, but that just increases the Terrible Dependency in the long run.

One need look no further than any large-scale city controlled for decades by Democrats to know the profound truth of that observation.
Mainly because they offer whites things and try taking things from blacks. You are wrong about democrats and your opinion is what the black conservatives in the OP is talking about. As long as you talk like this, you can forget about blacks becoming republicans. Your observation is wrong because those cities are run by democrats because republicans run and lose. You talk about cities while I live in a state ruined by republican policies.

"It looks like conservatives talking about blacks as people deserving of dignity instead of treating them as mentally inferior. It means seeing them as fellow Americans instead of slaves on a fictional plantation. It means emphasizing truth over narrative and seeking a genuine understanding of those we wish to reach instead of relying on lazy stereotypes and meaningless platitudes."

The Rise of a New Black Conservative Movement

"We favor an approach that involves up-close conversation and discourse instead of the mindless repeating of banal platitudes about Chicago’s homicide rates from a distance."


"Conservatives have been saying that black Democrats are slaves on the Democratic plantation since the ‘60s. It was off-putting then, and it’s off-putting now. The GOP has refused to develop a viable strategy to reach black voters and other minorities. Since the ‘60s, they have surrendered the black voter to the left while convincing their members to believe blacks don’t vote for Republicans because they just want “free stuff.” Yes, that’s yet another stereotype that should be debunked. We wish to see this change. "

The Rise of a New Black Conservative Movement
 
...You make sense and I think that the black conservatives could be the ones that burn down the current republican party.
Pure delusion... they are statistically insignificant, or so close to it that it makes very little difference.
 
If you want to pin a political label on a segment of society and call reasonable Black Americans "conservatives" it's your call but it don't make you a conservative if you are sick of being pandered to. How in the world can the democrat party claim that a simple basic item like a photo I.D. in the 21st century would discriminate against Black people? In't it insulting to be pandered to and used in an effort to circumvent the electoral process? Democrats don't give a shit about Black people. Their effort to reverse the voter I.D. law was intended to make it easy for lilly white liberals and illegal aliens vote in multiple venues.
 
Until now, Black Conservatives were expected to act like Uncle Toms, spouting Conservative blame the victim rhetoric.

If the Republican Party really wants to attract blacks, they have to abandon their “plantation” rhetoric and stop their support of the Deplorables
Exactly. That's what blacks keep telling them and it is certainly what these black republicans are doing.

Wouldn't it make more sense to burn the Republican Party down and start over with a party which wasn't cobbled together on a foundation of racism? The Ronald Reagan coalition welcomed Dixiecrats and racists of all stripes because Reagan was smart enough that he couldn't win without them. He pitted rural whites against urban black, declaring ketchup a vegetable for school lunches and railed against inner city "welfare queens" popping out babies to increase their income.

Republicans have betrayed everything that conservatives stand for: expanding the size of government, not shrinking it; running huge, fiscally irresponsible deficits. Their fiscal policies have now crashed the economy during three of the last four times they've held the White House, and the Reagan tax code created the biggest transfer of wealth in world history - all of it upward.

The whole party is toxic to minorities, women, religious minorities and gays. Even mainstream Christians are poorly served by Republicans. If you're not a straight white male, Repubicans have nothing for you. Even worse, they'll see your membership as a validation of their toxic white male agenda.
No! It would make sense though to burn Canada down. Dumbass.
 
...You are wrong about democrats...
That is your opinion.

I will hold to mine.

I have lived in Chicago and its environs all of my fairly long life and have worked for decades in inner-city social services nonprofits.

I saw Democratic Machine control of the inner-city and its cavalier and arrogant treatment of Blacks every working day of those years.

And, that's all well within metaphorical "living memory" - nothing has changed in the few years since I disengaged.

Same pig, different day, different lipstick.
 
"We emphasize truth over narrative … We do not obsess over racism as many do on the left..."

Forgive this but how are you gonna get in line with that sort of thinking when every one of your posts and seeming all of your "thinking" seem to be exactly the opposite?

I'm to believe you are suddenly gonna GTF up?
Because you do not post the entire sentence.
We do not obsess over racism as many do on the left, but we also do not discount its impact as many do on the right.

Stating the impact of white racism on the black community is not obsessing over racism. It is stating fact. But to whites trying to gaslight it becomes obsession in an attempt to pathologize anyone opposing that racism.

Racial gaslighting – the political, social, economic and cultural process that perpetuates and normalizes a white supremacist reality through pathologizing those who resist.
 
...You are wrong about democrats...
That is your opinion.

I will hold to mine.

I have lived in Chicago and its environs all of my fairly long life and have worked for decades in inner-city social services nonprofits.

I saw Democratic Machine control of the inner-city and its cavalier and arrogant treatment of Blacks every working day of those years.

And, that's all well within metaphorical "living memory" - nothing has changed in the few years since I disengaged.

Same pig, different day, different lipstick.
I am right since I am black and a democrat. You are stating an opinion that has been wrong for about 60 years.

 
If you want to pin a political label on a segment of society and call reasonable Black Americans "conservatives" it's your call but it don't make you a conservative if you are sick of being pandered to. How in the world can the democrat party claim that a simple basic item like a photo I.D. in the 21st century would discriminate against Black people? In't it insulting to be pandered to and used in an effort to circumvent the electoral process? Democrats don't give a shit about Black people. Their effort to reverse the voter I.D. law was intended to make it easy for lilly white liberals and illegal aliens vote in multiple venues.
Ask the courts that proved how so called voter fraud measures were purposefully discriminatory towards blacks. You would not like the black conservatives in the OP and the blacks you consider reasonable only consist of blacks that repeat the racism you believe.
 
These black conservatives do not get the exposure by the RWM as the Candice Owens types and it is done on purpose.

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The Rise of a New Black Conservative Movement
January 1, 2020 by Jeff Charles

It is a new year, and a new decade. Changes are occurring in American politics. The Democratic Party is currently embroiled in a heated war between the establishment and far-left progressive factions. The Republican Party is also caught in a conflict between its own establishment and those who want to bring change.

But there is another evolution occurring, especially on the right, one that has gone largely unnoticed until now. This change is happening in the realm of the black conservative movement with a growing number of right-leaning black Americans pushing for a change in GOP and the overall conservative movement. In essence, they are a new breed of black conservatives, and if their efforts are successful, it could make an immense mark on the nation’s political landscape.

If you have read my work regarding the conservative movement’s relationship — or lack thereof — with the black community, you have seen some of the ideas we espouse. Our message differs from that of the traditional black conservative establishment in that it emphasizes a different view of, and approach to, the black community. We recognize that the messaging strategies used by the black conservative establishment, though well-intentioned, have been woefully impotent when it comes to reaching black American voters. It is time for a new approach.

So what does this look like?

It looks like conservatives talking about blacks as people deserving of dignity instead of treating them as mentally inferior. It means seeing them as fellow Americans instead of slaves on a fictional plantation. It means emphasizing truth over narrative and seeking a genuine understanding of those we wish to reach instead of relying on lazy stereotypes and meaningless platitudes. It means not being limited by the statistics the media selects for us and digging deeper to understand the true issues facing the black community. We do not obsess over racism as many do on the left, but we also do not discount its impact as many do on the right.

Instead of a conservative movement that relies on talking points and narratives lacking nuance, the new black conservative movement seeks to foster a holistic understanding of the black community. This means promoting a real understanding of the black community, its culture, and its history. Rather than holding events that are ostensibly tailored to reaching black voters, but are attended by mostly non-blacks, we wish to see the Republican Party, right-leaning media, and conservative organizations engage directly with black Americans in their communities.

We favor an approach that involves up-close conversation and discourse instead of the mindless repeating of banal platitudes about Chicago’s homicide rates from a distance. The non-establishment black conservative wants to sell the virtues of conservative policies that promote free enterprise rather than only bashing socialism.

Our focus isn’t just on Trump and the presidency; it is on winning black voters at the local and state levels, and in the legislative branch. We’re more likely to favor an organization like the Empower America Project, which is training minority and women candidates to run for office, over a group like Blexit, which has failed to reach black Americans because it still uses the traditional black conservative messaging strategy.


Now these are black conservatives I can work with or even become a part of.


I think a greater diversity of political opinion among Black Americans is a good thing. The Black vote has been taken for granted for far too long. I think Tim Scott is a great example of a new type of African American politician. And yes, if he sees what he feels is racism on either side he will call it out. Personally, I say good for him. :thup:
 
"We emphasize truth over narrative … We do not obsess over racism as many do on the left..."

Forgive this but how are you gonna get in line with that sort of thinking when every one of your posts and seeming all of your "thinking" seem to be exactly the opposite?

I'm to believe you are suddenly gonna GTF up?
Because you do not post the entire sentence.
We do not obsess over racism as many do on the left, but we also do not discount its impact as many do on the right.

Stating the impact of white racism on the black community is not obsessing over racism. It is stating fact. But to whites trying to gaslight it becomes obsession in an attempt to pathologize anyone opposing that racism.

Racial gaslighting – the political, social, economic and cultural process that perpetuates and normalizes a white supremacist reality through pathologizing those who resist.
As already noted, your posts reek of your obsession with race and racism and I just don't see you as ever having the strength to deal with universal American truths without your crutch. What is most attractive about Owens is not her physical good looks but rather her clear-eyed recognition that it is the left that treats people of color not as deserving of respect and dignity but instead as mentally inferior little children in constant need of their aid.
 
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These black conservatives do not get the exposure by the RWM as the Candice Owens types and it is done on purpose.

View attachment 336540

The Rise of a New Black Conservative Movement
January 1, 2020 by Jeff Charles

It is a new year, and a new decade. Changes are occurring in American politics. The Democratic Party is currently embroiled in a heated war between the establishment and far-left progressive factions. The Republican Party is also caught in a conflict between its own establishment and those who want to bring change.

But there is another evolution occurring, especially on the right, one that has gone largely unnoticed until now. This change is happening in the realm of the black conservative movement with a growing number of right-leaning black Americans pushing for a change in GOP and the overall conservative movement. In essence, they are a new breed of black conservatives, and if their efforts are successful, it could make an immense mark on the nation’s political landscape.

If you have read my work regarding the conservative movement’s relationship — or lack thereof — with the black community, you have seen some of the ideas we espouse. Our message differs from that of the traditional black conservative establishment in that it emphasizes a different view of, and approach to, the black community. We recognize that the messaging strategies used by the black conservative establishment, though well-intentioned, have been woefully impotent when it comes to reaching black American voters. It is time for a new approach.

So what does this look like?

It looks like conservatives talking about blacks as people deserving of dignity instead of treating them as mentally inferior. It means seeing them as fellow Americans instead of slaves on a fictional plantation. It means emphasizing truth over narrative and seeking a genuine understanding of those we wish to reach instead of relying on lazy stereotypes and meaningless platitudes. It means not being limited by the statistics the media selects for us and digging deeper to understand the true issues facing the black community. We do not obsess over racism as many do on the left, but we also do not discount its impact as many do on the right.

Instead of a conservative movement that relies on talking points and narratives lacking nuance, the new black conservative movement seeks to foster a holistic understanding of the black community. This means promoting a real understanding of the black community, its culture, and its history. Rather than holding events that are ostensibly tailored to reaching black voters, but are attended by mostly non-blacks, we wish to see the Republican Party, right-leaning media, and conservative organizations engage directly with black Americans in their communities.

We favor an approach that involves up-close conversation and discourse instead of the mindless repeating of banal platitudes about Chicago’s homicide rates from a distance. The non-establishment black conservative wants to sell the virtues of conservative policies that promote free enterprise rather than only bashing socialism.

Our focus isn’t just on Trump and the presidency; it is on winning black voters at the local and state levels, and in the legislative branch. We’re more likely to favor an organization like the Empower America Project, which is training minority and women candidates to run for office, over a group like Blexit, which has failed to reach black Americans because it still uses the traditional black conservative messaging strategy.


Now these are black conservatives I can work with or even become a part of.
Sounds EXACTLY like Candice Owens except you're good with it as long as Candice Owens isn't preaching the very same message.

Your issue is PERSONAL and not based on the message. Kinda YOUR problem because you can't get past personalities
 
...What have Republicans offered black communities other than prisons ?
Why should they offer them anything at all?

Democrats are no better in their treatment of Blacks... they're just more subtle about it than their Republican counterparts.

" Vote Democrat !!! Come out and vote !!! We need you !!! Strength in numbers !!! "

And then the inner-city urban-plantation Black Folk vote (D) just like they were told to do.

And, once the Dems win, they go on their way, and ignore the Black folk for another four years, until they need 'em again at the polls.

Oh, Dems will "offer" ( lure / bribe ) Blacks a few more goodies, but that just increases the Terrible Dependency in the long run.

One need look no further than any large-scale city controlled for decades by Democrats to know the profound truth of that observation.

Republican racist bullshit and lies. There is no "terrible dependency". There is a terrible system whereby people of colour are routinely portrayed as less intelligent, less industrious, more criminal and morally deficient and generally "inferior" to white people. Studies have shown that even having a name which "sounds black" leads to job applicants not being invited to interview.

One study stripped resumees of personal information and just provided education and work experience. Any information which might expose race was stripped out of the resumees. When the stripped out resumees were reviewed by HR professionals, the black applicants were more likely to be picked for interviews. Even more telling, when the researchers scrambled identities and assigned "black" names to white applicants' resummees, the resummees attracted fewer interviews than they did with "white" names.

People like you are always quick to point out that 23% of blacks are receiving social assistance, but that means that more than 3/4's of American blacks are contributing members of society, working, making a decent living and not living on government assistance. But to hear people like you tell it, all blacks live in cities on welfare.

Every since the opioid crisis hit, every racial stereotype of inner city blacks has been smashed. Crime and drug abuse in the inner city are the result of poverty and desperation. When you don't have a job, or a hope of getting one, crime is the only other option. Drug addiction, mental health problems, alcoholism - all are diseases of desperation.

Since the manufacturing jobs disappeared in the mid-west, opioid addiction, death, and suicide - the diseases of desperation, have flourished, as has rural crime. Parts of rural American are now more dangerous than inner city slums these days. It's not just black people who turn to crime and drugs when they have no jobs, no money and no hope. In fact, white people are just as prone to the exact same behaviours as blacks, when they're treated as unnecessary and sacrificial.

Any woman or minority who votes for the current itteration of the Republican Party has to be mentally incompetent. They don't want women - they've made it perfectly clear. No abortions, no health care, no birth control, screw equal wages, and forget about maternity leave or child care. Be grateful you have a job at all. Thanks for NOTHING. These are all dollars and cents issues for families, as are education and infrastructure.

I'm sure tha IM2 can provide us with the list of sensible reasonable things blacks want that Republicans will never sign onto. I'm guessing better funding for schools in lower income neighbourhoods might be on that list.
 
"We emphasize truth over narrative … We do not obsess over racism as many do on the left..."

Forgive this but how are you gonna get in line with that sort of thinking when every one of your posts and seeming all of your "thinking" seem to be exactly the opposite?

I'm to believe you are suddenly gonna GTF up?
Because you do not post the entire sentence.
We do not obsess over racism as many do on the left, but we also do not discount its impact as many do on the right.

Stating the impact of white racism on the black community is not obsessing over racism. It is stating fact. But to whites trying to gaslight it becomes obsession in an attempt to pathologize anyone opposing that racism.

Racial gaslighting – the political, social, economic and cultural process that perpetuates and normalizes a white supremacist reality through pathologizing those who resist.
As already noted, your posts reek with your obsession with race and racism and I just don't see you as ever having the strength to deal with universal American truths without your crutch. What is most attractive about Owens is not her physical good looks but rather her clear-eyed recognition that it is the left that treats people of color not as deserving of respect and dignity but instead as mentally inferior little children in constant need of their aid.


I don't think anyone can reasonably argue that Owens is not very intelligent. She terrifies the left because she is so outspoken and challenges many white liberal assumptions.

But the hate that woman has endured is massive. Who knew that such a different voice among African American women could be so scary.
 
Until now, Black Conservatives were expected to act like Uncle Toms, spouting Conservative blame the victim rhetoric.

If the Republican Party really wants to attract blacks, they have to abandon their “plantation” rhetoric and stop their support of the Deplorables
Exactly. That's what blacks keep telling them and it is certainly what these black republicans are doing.

Wouldn't it make more sense to burn the Republican Party down and start over with a party which wasn't cobbled together on a foundation of racism? The Ronald Reagan coalition welcomed Dixiecrats and racists of all stripes because Reagan was smart enough that he couldn't win without them. He pitted rural whites against urban black, declaring ketchup a vegetable for school lunches and railed against inner city "welfare queens" popping out babies to increase their income.

Republicans have betrayed everything that conservatives stand for: expanding the size of government, not shrinking it; running huge, fiscally irresponsible deficits. Their fiscal policies have now crashed the economy during three of the last four times they've held the White House, and the Reagan tax code created the biggest transfer of wealth in world history - all of it upward.

The whole party is toxic to minorities, women, religious minorities and gays. Even mainstream Christians are poorly served by Republicans. If you're not a straight white male, Repubicans have nothing for you. Even worse, they'll see your membership as a validation of their toxic white male agenda.
You make sense and I think that the black conservatives could be the ones that burn down the current republican party.
There you go, advocating violence again
 
What have Republicans offered black communities other than prisons ?
"What have Republicans offered black communities...??" You are exactly the kind of Dem Plantation whip that has for decades cynically held generation after generation of America's minorities in slavery. IM2 expresses a mild interest in getting out from under and you have the highly predictable hissy-fit. Remain calm … there is little chance that IM2 will grow up and get out. There is absolutely none that you will.
 

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