The Right Wing's Lies About Most Everything

[teapartysamurai]

I think you both are kind of missing the point. Reagan believed in walking with a big stick. If forced to use it then use it, but the idea was simply to use the big stick to prevent anyone from fucking with you so you didn't have to use it in the first place. Luckily it worked out well for Reagan. Had it been a different time, things might have been different.

"Things might have been different" is another way of saying, "but we could have been right!"

But, you weren't!

Get over it!

Honestly, you sound like a 15 year old. Not sure why you would jump all over me anyway; I supported Reagan and voted for him. The problem with people like you is that if a person is not so far to the right that they are about to fall off the edge of the earth, then they are a communist marxist liberal in your eyes. Fortunately, that is not reality but unfortunately, it is yours.

Oh, yes you are soooooooooooooooo above us, because you are "in the middle."

That arrogance is always so laughable!

 

[auditor0007]

The only point I'll argue here is that it was Reagan, or the US that caused the collapse of the USSR. The USSR collapsed because communism/socialism aren't economic viabilities. They stretched themselves so thin that they withdrew from Afghan because of bankruptcy and the inability to continue their ways.

Otherwise, the rest is true. Communists took over the democrats, but AI think it was happeneing back in the 40s and was completed by the 80s. Evidence shows now that most democrats are nothing short of socialist morons.

There is no resemblance of communism in the Democratic Party. This is where you right wing loons just prove yourselves to be right wing loons.

And this is where we know you are full of it!

Yes, Dems believe in state control of all business so that we can work towards a time when everyone just works for the bettering of mankind and has no need to be paid in any form for their efforts. Everyone will be completely equal whether a toilet cleaner or one who runs one of those state owned companies. That is the Democratic platform.

Now I can be certain that you will come back and applaud me for being so honest.

 

[Mr.Nick]

And if anyone would have told me (in the 60s) that I would see a day when the Soviet Union was not pointing missles at us, I would not have believed them.

REAGAN MADE THAT A REALITY.

You would not have believed them, because you were always a fearful little twit. Some of us who lied through the cold war weren't as scared as the right wing fear mongers and the left wing scaredy cats.

And the Russians (formerly the USSR) still have missiles pointed at us.

See? You lie and you are stupid.

You weren't as fearful??????????

You libs were the one screaming That Reagan would get us into a war!

I grew up in the 80's, however I read a lot and as far as I can interpret - progressives pretty much viewed Reagan as an "eccentric cowboy" that was willing to drop nukes or go to war at any second even over the smallest of issues...

I love how these twenty-something progressive idiots are painting him as a "pussy" when progressives back in the 80's thought he would start WWIII....

Reagan didn't go to war because he didn't need to - given his personality and his willingness to go to war prevented war....

Lets not forget he pretty much single handedly destroyed the USSR by dropping weaponry to rebel forces in Afghanistan, which in-tun caused the USSR to go bankrupt fighting the Afghans.

 

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Five myths about Ronald Reagan's legacy Five myths about Ronald Reagan's legacy

 

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Reagan didn't go to war because he didn't need to - given his personality and his willingness to go to war prevented war....

Lets not forget he pretty much single handedly destroyed the USSR by dropping weaponry to rebel forces in Afghanistan, which in-tun caused the USSR to go bankrupt fighting the Afghans.

another right wing myth

 

[teapartysamurai]

You would not have believed them, because you were always a fearful little twit. Some of us who lied through the cold war weren't as scared as the right wing fear mongers and the left wing scaredy cats.

And the Russians (formerly the USSR) still have missiles pointed at us.

See? You lie and you are stupid.

You weren't as fearful??????????

You libs were the one screaming That Reagan would get us into a war!

Five myths about Ronald Reagan's legacy

Actually, it was Reagan softening his positions and going liberal that got the ball rolling on the Soviet friendship - Gorby/Reagan. The hard line approach ahd not worked.

Reagan, when he left office, had most all conservatives hating him for his Foreign Policy with the Soviets. Even Newt attacked the Gipper

Gingrich Called Reagan Weak, Pathetically Incompetent and Compared Him to Neville Chamberlain | Crooks and Liars

There They Go Again - NYTimes.com

Here we go again!

Because the liberals say so, we are supposed to believe them.

Pst! Gingrich also was cozying up to Hillary Clinton and Nancy Pelosi. One of the reasons I didn't vote for him. He talked out of both sides of his mouth.

Keep trying!

 

[auditor0007]

"Things might have been different" is another way of saying, "but we could have been right!"

But, you weren't!

Get over it!

Honestly, you sound like a 15 year old. Not sure why you would jump all over me anyway; I supported Reagan and voted for him. The problem with people like you is that if a person is not so far to the right that they are about to fall off the edge of the earth, then they are a communist marxist liberal in your eyes. Fortunately, that is not reality but unfortunately, it is yours.

Oh, yes you are soooooooooooooooo above us, because you are "in the middle."

That arrogance is always so laughable!

It has nothing to do with being in the middle. It has to do with understanding how things work and that what people like you want will only lead us to being like Mexico with a few very rich, a very small middle class, and the majority being poor. That is not my vision of America. And as for Reagan, I imagine he is rolling in his grave over how far to the right the Republicans have moved. Reagan was a realist first, and an ideologue second. Today's Republicans are strictly ideologues; realism doesn't even come into the picture for them.

 

[Sinjorri]

Let us start with President Reagan's military defense toughness myth:

What a joke.

Sure...on the ultimate test of hawkdom -- the willingness to send U.S. troops into harm's way -- Reagan was no bird of prey. He launched exactly one land war, against Grenada, whose army totaled 600 men. It lasted two days. And his only air war -- the 1986 bombing of Libya -- was even briefer....

In fact, Reagan was terrified of war. He took office eager to vanquish Nicaragua's Sandinista government and its rebel allies in El Salvador, both of which were backed by Cuba and the Soviet Union. But at an early meeting, when Secretary of State Alexander Haig suggested that achieving this goal might require bombing Cuba, the suggestion "scared the shit out of Ronald Reagan," according to White House aide Michael Deaver. Haig was marginalized, then resigned, and Reagan never seriously considered sending U.S. troops south of the border, despite demands from conservative intellectuals like Norman Podhoretz and William F. Buckley. "Those sons of bitches won't be happy until we have 25,000 troops in Managua," Reagan told chief of staff Kenneth Duberstein near the end of his presidency, "and I'm not going to do it."

Think Again: Ronald Reagan - By Peter Beinart | Foreign Policy

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A whopper of a lie like that, deserves a neg rep!

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facts are lies now?

if we are so horrible how come leon panetta said the cuts where horrible and why come here? why stay in the country? why why why if we are so horrible do u come to us?

 

[teapartysamurai]

The Right Wing's Lies About Most Everything


The Reagan Administration sent legions of the CIA etc in support of right wing South American Terrorists despite Congressional testimony to the contrary while proclaiming to the American People its adherence to Democracy ...

Yeah Yeah Yeah!

It's just awful Reagan fought communism in Central America (not South, you dipstick), and then lied to a DEMOCRAT Congress that had made their support of communism clear.

(see the post where I cite the letter Ted Kennedy wrote to the Soviet Union)

 

[teapartysamurai]

There is no resemblance of communism in the Democratic Party. This is where you right wing loons just prove yourselves to be right wing loons.

And this is where we know you are full of it!

Yes, Dems believe in state control of all business so that we can work towards a time when everyone just works for the bettering of mankind and has no need to be paid in any form for their efforts. Everyone will be completely equal whether a toilet cleaner or one who runs one of those state owned companies. That is the Democratic platform.

Now I can be certain that you will come back and applaud me for being so honest.

The Democrats believe in a State Controlled economy, that is true

The Republican Leadership want something just light of that. That is ALSO true.

Which is why it's hilarious that Democrats make it out like they are the devil incarnate when they want something just a shade lighter than Democrats.

It's only the conservative wing that want real conservatism and they have to fight their own leadership for it.

 

[Mr.Nick]

Reagan didn't go to war because he didn't need to - given his personality and his willingness to go to war prevented war....

Lets not forget he pretty much single handedly destroyed the USSR by dropping weaponry to rebel forces in Afghanistan, which in-tun caused the USSR to go bankrupt fighting the Afghans.

another right wing myth

Really? how is it a myth????

You fucking idiot progressives only love to use the fact Reagan armed al-Qaeda to make a point with the war on terrorism - now Reagan didn't bankrupt the USSR by doing such??

You're seriously a fucking idiot - everyone knows the USSR went bankrupt over the cost of war...

 

[teapartysamurai]

You would not have believed them, because you were always a fearful little twit. Some of us who lied through the cold war weren't as scared as the right wing fear mongers and the left wing scaredy cats.

And the Russians (formerly the USSR) still have missiles pointed at us.

See? You lie and you are stupid.

You weren't as fearful??????????

You libs were the one screaming That Reagan would get us into a war!

I grew up in the 80's, however I read a lot and as far as I can interpret - progressives pretty much viewed Reagan as an "eccentric cowboy" that was willing to drop nukes or go to war at any second even over the smallest of issues...

I love how these twenty-something progressive idiots are painting him as a "pussy" when progressives back in the 80's thought he would start WWIII....

Reagan didn't go to war because he didn't need to - given his personality and his willingness to go to war prevented war....

Lets not forget he pretty much single handedly destroyed the USSR by dropping weaponry to rebel forces in Afghanistan, which in-tun caused the USSR to go bankrupt fighting the Afghans.

It was more than just Afghanistan.

He also wouldn't back down on "Star Wars" and also wouldn't back down on the B-1b.

That and nuclear arms just pushed the Soviet Union into backruptcy. They could not keep up.

 

[teapartysamurai]

Five myths about Ronald Reagan's legacy Five myths about Ronald Reagan's legacy

Again, by the liberal media.

The same liberal media that has been caught LYING AND LYING as of late.

Yet, Dante thinks we will take them seriously.

 

[teapartysamurai]

Reagan didn't go to war because he didn't need to - given his personality and his willingness to go to war prevented war....

Lets not forget he pretty much single handedly destroyed the USSR by dropping weaponry to rebel forces in Afghanistan, which in-tun caused the USSR to go bankrupt fighting the Afghans.

another right wing myth

And we believe it's a myth because Dante says so!



After all, the left believe Gorbachev did it!

 

[teapartysamurai]

Honestly, you sound like a 15 year old. Not sure why you would jump all over me anyway; I supported Reagan and voted for him. The problem with people like you is that if a person is not so far to the right that they are about to fall off the edge of the earth, then they are a communist marxist liberal in your eyes. Fortunately, that is not reality but unfortunately, it is yours.

Oh, yes you are soooooooooooooooo above us, because you are "in the middle."

That arrogance is always so laughable!

It has nothing to do with being in the middle. It has to do with understanding how things work and that what people like you want will only lead us to being like Mexico with a few very rich, a very small middle class, and the majority being poor. That is not my vision of America. And as for Reagan, I imagine he is rolling in his grave over how far to the right the Republicans have moved. Reagan was a realist first, and an ideologue second. Today's Republicans are strictly ideologues; realism doesn't even come into the picture for them.

Yeah, you are sooooooooooooooo undertanding, you believe a Democrat MYTH that they have been predicting since the 1930s and each time, THEY HAVE BEEN WRONG!

 

[teapartysamurai]

Reagan didn't go to war because he didn't need to - given his personality and his willingness to go to war prevented war....

Lets not forget he pretty much single handedly destroyed the USSR by dropping weaponry to rebel forces in Afghanistan, which in-tun caused the USSR to go bankrupt fighting the Afghans.

another right wing myth

Really? how is it a myth????

You fucking idiot progressives only love to use the fact Reagan armed al-Qaeda to make a point with the war on terrorism - now Reagan didn't bankrupt the USSR by doing such??

You're seriously a fucking idiot - everyone knows the USSR went bankrupt over the cost of war...

That's all Dante has.

He has a bunch of left wing pansies like him, reinventing history and as usual with libs we are supposed to take that seriously.

 

[Mr.Nick]

You weren't as fearful??????????

You libs were the one screaming That Reagan would get us into a war!

I grew up in the 80's, however I read a lot and as far as I can interpret - progressives pretty much viewed Reagan as an "eccentric cowboy" that was willing to drop nukes or go to war at any second even over the smallest of issues...

I love how these twenty-something progressive idiots are painting him as a "pussy" when progressives back in the 80's thought he would start WWIII....

Reagan didn't go to war because he didn't need to - given his personality and his willingness to go to war prevented war....

Lets not forget he pretty much single handedly destroyed the USSR by dropping weaponry to rebel forces in Afghanistan, which in-tun caused the USSR to go bankrupt fighting the Afghans.

It was more than just Afghanistan.

He also wouldn't back down on "Star Wars" and also wouldn't back down on the B-1b.

That and nuclear arms just pushed the Soviet Union into backruptcy. They could not keep up.

IMO, I think "Star Wars" was pretty much nothing but a bluff or an attempt get the USSR to spend more money.... Reagan was intelligent - he knew he could destroy the USSR by keeping them spending money on defense. Remember we're taking socialists here - a economic model that is not focused on generating wealth but an economic model that is focused on sustaining a populace. Regan understood that, and he understood the USSR could not sustain a populace while spending epic amounts of money on war... That's what ultimately destroyed the USSR and that is why Russia today is quasi-capitalist.

 

[teapartysamurai]

I grew up in the 80's, however I read a lot and as far as I can interpret - progressives pretty much viewed Reagan as an "eccentric cowboy" that was willing to drop nukes or go to war at any second even over the smallest of issues...

I love how these twenty-something progressive idiots are painting him as a "pussy" when progressives back in the 80's thought he would start WWIII....

Reagan didn't go to war because he didn't need to - given his personality and his willingness to go to war prevented war....

Lets not forget he pretty much single handedly destroyed the USSR by dropping weaponry to rebel forces in Afghanistan, which in-tun caused the USSR to go bankrupt fighting the Afghans.

It was more than just Afghanistan.

He also wouldn't back down on "Star Wars" and also wouldn't back down on the B-1b.

That and nuclear arms just pushed the Soviet Union into backruptcy. They could not keep up.

IMO, I think "Star Wars" was pretty much nothing but a bluff or an attempt get the USSR to spend more money.... Reagan was intelligent - he knew he could destroy the USSR by keeping them spending money on defense. Remember we're taking socialists here - a economic model that is not focused on generating wealth but an economic model that is focused on sustaining a populace. Regan understood that, and he understood the USSR could not sustain a populace while spending epic amounts of money on war... That's what ultimately destroyed the USSR and that is why Russia today is quasi-capitalist.

Star Wars was a bluff but the Soviet Union took that bluff very seriously.

If you will remember the Soviet Union put a lot of promises on the table if Reagan would give up on Star Wars but Reagan refused every time.

He even walked away from the table on that.

That was the reason the libs kept wringing their hands.

Do you remember all the libs crying about Reagan refusing to give up Star Wars?

I SURE DO!

This thead itself is testament to the fact the libs are still mad that Reagan proved them 100% wrong!

It's been 24 years since Reagan left office and they still haven't got over it!

 

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another thread hijacked by Tea Party Imbeciles high on a drug called delusion​

 

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Reagan didn't go to war because he didn't need to - given his personality and his willingness to go to war prevented war....

Lets not forget he pretty much single handedly destroyed the USSR by dropping weaponry to rebel forces in Afghanistan, which in-tun caused the USSR to go bankrupt fighting the Afghans.

another right wing myth

Really? how is it a myth????

You fucking idiot progressives only love to use the fact Reagan armed al-Qaeda to make a point with the war on terrorism - now Reagan didn't bankrupt the USSR by doing such??

You're seriously a fucking idiot - everyone knows the USSR went bankrupt over the cost of war...

clue: the USSR was weak when Reagan took office. Either you believe this to be true, or you believe a super power can collapse from a mere few years of struggle.

clue: The USSR and the Soviet Block (you know what the soviet block was?) were already experiencing social change and divisions. POLAND SOLIDARITY WORKER'S UNION?
Leading conservatives like Howard Phillips said Reagan was weak on the Soviet Union

"...conservatives such as Phillips were accusing their old hero of selling out to the communists, The Washington Post said this in Reagan's last year: "In less than a decade, the world's largest creditor nation has become its leading debtor, foreign competition humbled America's mightiest companies, hundreds of thousands of manufacturing jobs have disappeared and middle-class living standards have declined in many communities.""
The Last Reagan Campaign: Legacy | USC Annenberg Center on Communication Leadership & Policy