The Right Wing's Lies About Most Everything

[teapartysamurai]

Star Wars was a bluff but the Soviet Union took that bluff very seriously.

If you will remember the Soviet Union put a lot of promises on the table if Reagan would give up on Star Wars but Reagan refused every time.

He even walked away from the table on that.

That was the reason the libs kept wringing their hands.

Do you remember all the libs crying about Reagan refusing to give up Star Wars?

I SURE DO!

This thead itself is testament to the fact the libs are still mad that Reagan proved them 100% wrong!

It's been 24 years since Reagan left office and they still haven't got over it!

Well I was 8 when Reagan left office... So I really never experienced that period as an adult or young adult..... Of course I remember Reagan, however most of what I've learned is via books, newspaper articles, old posts on BBS etc....

Absolutely, progressives thought Reagan was a crazy ass cowboy and the OP's post just goes to show how brainwashed progressives really are.

It's clear progressives do absolutely no research into their claims - they just take another talking head progressive babble to be the truth then pass it on - it's like the "telephone game."

The Reagan Legacy Project, started in 1997 by the conservative lobbyist Grover Norquist, seeks to name something -- a stadium, a stretch of turnpike, anything -- after Reagan in every state in the union.


propaganda

Oh here we go!

IT'S A CONSPIRACY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

When libs can't beat something with their lies, IT'S A CONSPIRACY!!!!!!!!!!

It has NOTHING to do with people like me who REMEMBER REAGAN AND KNOW LIBS ARE LYING. Noooooooooooooooooo!

IT'S ALL A CONSPIRACY!!!!!!!!!!

And then libs wonder why they are losing this debate!

That must be a conspiracy too!

 

[teapartysamurai]

clue: the USSR was weak when Reagan took office. Either you believe this to be true, or you believe a super power can collapse from a mere few years of struggle.

clue: The USSR and the Soviet Block (you know what the soviet block was?) were already experiencing social change and divisions. POLAND SOLIDARITY WORKER'S UNION?
Leading conservatives like Howard Phillips said Reagan was weak on the Soviet Union

"...conservatives such as Phillips were accusing their old hero of selling out to the communists, The Washington Post said this in Reagan's last year: "In less than a decade, the world's largest creditor nation has become its leading debtor, foreign competition humbled America's mightiest companies, hundreds of thousands of manufacturing jobs have disappeared and middle-class living standards have declined in many communities.""
The Last Reagan Campaign: Legacy | USC Annenberg Center on Communication Leadership & Policy

No, the USSR was operating until the Afghan/Soviet war which began a year before Regan took office in 1979...

Besides - you're fucked now little shit.

Either socialism is a failure or Reagan is a success - pick it now progressive fuck....

See you're a fucking idiot...

Your grasp of history is stunningly ignorant.

Reagan versus Socialism? Reagan lost that one. You only know:

The Reagan Legacy Project, started in 1997 by the conservative lobbyist Grover Norquist, seeks to name something -- a stadium, a stretch of turnpike, anything -- after Reagan in every state in the union.

And we all know this to be true, because the libs losing on this debate, say so!



And then Dante ups the comedy by saying We are DELUSIONAL????????

 

[teapartysamurai]

Again: Five myths about Ronald Reagan's legacy

1. Reagan was one of our most popular presidents.

2. Reagan was a tax-cutter.

3. Reagan was a hawk.

4. Reagan shrank the federal government.

5. Reagan was a conservative culture warrior.

Said so by another liberal reiventing history.

And we won't believe him, because IT'S A CONSPIRACY!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[teapartysamurai]

Again: Five myths about Ronald Reagan's legacy

1. Reagan was one of our most popular presidents.

2. Reagan was a tax-cutter.

3. Reagan was a hawk.

4. Reagan shrank the federal government.

5. Reagan was a conservative culture warrior.

4. The number of federal employees grew from 2.8 million to 3 million under Reagan, in large part because of his buildup at the Pentagon. (It took the Democratic administration of President Bill Clinton to trim the employee rolls back to 2.7 million.) Reagan also abandoned a campaign pledge to get rid of two Cabinet agencies - Energy and Education - and added a new one, Veterans Affairs.

Dante quotes himself again!

 

[teapartysamurai]

Again: Five myths about Ronald Reagan's legacy

1. Reagan was one of our most popular presidents.

2. Reagan was a tax-cutter.

3. Reagan was a hawk.

4. Reagan shrank the federal government.

5. Reagan was a conservative culture warrior.

5. In 1981, Reagan unintentionally did more than any other president to prevent the Roe v. Wade abortion ruling from being overturned when he appointed Sandra Day O'Connor to the Supreme Court. O'Connor mostly upheld abortion rights during her 25 years as a justice.

And Again!

 

[teapartysamurai]

True, the Nick & TPS

You're a fucking idiot..

You fucking retards sit here all day defending big government and socialism - then your little Dante buddy comes along and implies that socialism is to blame for the fall of the USSR and that Reagan was a pussy...

To sum up your boys stupid assertion "socialism in other countries fail only when republicans are president."

Of course you will buy that bag of dicks because it fits what you want to believe - not what the truth is...

I'm perplexed as to how you progressive retards survive given how grossly dumb you are - oh yeah - government takes care of you.....

It's amazing how you can even operate a computer let alone use a keyboard to communicate your blatantly ignorant views and ideas..

I was "serving" when Reagan was in office smart guy You really should find out who you're flaming b4 hitting "post"

And he always remembered to ask, "you wants fries with that?"

 

[teapartysamurai]

Again: Five myths about Ronald Reagan's legacy

1. Reagan was one of our most popular presidents.

2. Reagan was a tax-cutter.

3. Reagan was a hawk.

4. Reagan shrank the federal government.

5. Reagan was a conservative culture warrior.

3. With the exception of the 1986 bombing of Libya, Reagan also disappointed hawkish aides with his unwillingness to retaliate militarily for terrorism in the Middle East. According to biographer Lou Cannon, the president called the death of innocent civilians in anti-terror operations "terrorism itself."

In 1987, Reagan aide Paul Bremer, later George W. Bush's point man in Baghdad, even argued that terrorism suspects should be tried in civilian courts. "A major element of our strategy has been to delegitimize terrorists, to get society to see them for what they are - criminals - and to use democracy's most potent tool, the rule of law, against them," Bremer said. In 1988, Reagan signed the United Nations Convention Against Torture, which stated that torture could be used under "no exceptional circumstances, whatsoever."

And again!

 

[teapartysamurai]

No, the USSR was operating until the Afghan/Soviet war which began a year before Regan took office in 1979...

Besides - you're fucked now little shit.

Either socialism is a failure or Reagan is a success - pick it now progressive fuck....

See you're a fucking idiot...

Your grasp of history is stunningly ignorant.

Reagan versus Socialism? Reagan lost that one. You only know:

The Reagan Legacy Project, started in 1997 by the conservative lobbyist Grover Norquist, seeks to name something -- a stadium, a stretch of turnpike, anything -- after Reagan in every state in the union.

Reagan lost to socialism

The last time I checked it was the USSR that went bankrupt NOT the US....

Now you're just making shit up - It's pretty pathetic - especially considering you're arguing against FACTS now...

Yeah, keep on spewing shit so the world can see how fucking dumb the typical Obamafuck voter truly is...

This is indicative of what sore losers liberals are.

They are STILL chafing over the fact Reagan beat them so badly.

They still want to reinvent history and convince us all that Reagan's victories never happened.

You can tell how angry they are, that there are people now, in this thread, who remember Reagan and can tell libs how much they are lying.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

Ok Baroness



The Baroness T.P. Samurai Munchhausen

 

[teapartysamurai]

Nick, you're a fucking idiot. Isn't your psyche appointment soon? Can you move it up a few days?

And Nick you are an idiot, becaus the idiot who's slobbering his sore loser rage about Reagan all over this thread, says so!

I would feel insulted if I were you . . . NOT!

 

[teapartysamurai]

IMO, I think "Star Wars" was pretty much nothing but a bluff or an attempt get the USSR to spend more money.... Reagan was intelligent - he knew he could destroy the USSR by keeping them spending money on defense. Remember we're taking socialists here - a economic model that is not focused on generating wealth but an economic model that is focused on sustaining a populace. Regan understood that, and he understood the USSR could not sustain a populace while spending epic amounts of money on war... That's what ultimately destroyed the USSR and that is why Russia today is quasi-capitalist.

Star Wars was a bluff but the Soviet Union took that bluff very seriously.

If you will remember the Soviet Union put a lot of promises on the table if Reagan would give up on Star Wars but Reagan refused every time.

He even walked away from the table on that.

That was the reason the libs kept wringing their hands.

Do you remember all the libs crying about Reagan refusing to give up Star Wars?

I SURE DO!

This thead itself is testament to the fact the libs are still mad that Reagan proved them 100% wrong!

It's been 24 years since Reagan left office and they still haven't got over it!

The Soviet response to the SDI during the period March 1983 through November 1985 provided indications of their view of the program both as a threat and as an opportunity to weaken NATO.

Who funded Star Wars' programs? Was it Liberals and Democrats in Congress?

If SDI was such a failure why did the Soviets fear it so much and try so hard to get Reagan to drop it?

Why did it help push the Soviet Union into oblivion?

You libs can make up an entire fantasy history all you like, but the HARD FACTS WON'T CHANGE.

The FACTS ARE the Soviet Union is no longer here.

And it wasn't a Democrat, Lev Walensa, Gorbechev, or even YOU that went to Germany and cried, "Mr. Gorbechev, TEAR DOWN THIS WALL!"

It isn't ANY of those people who have a statue in Eastern Europe, REAGAN HAS ONE!

They KNOW who freed them, and they sure as hell don't give the credit to Gorbechev.

BUDAPEST — Hungary unveiled a statue of former U.S. President Ronald Reagan on Wednesday, honoring him for his role in helping to end communism.

Hundreds took part in the unveiling in Budapest’s Szabadsag, or Freedom, square, including Prime Minister Viktor Orban and former U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice. Mr. Reagan was remembered for his role in “bringing the Cold War to a conclusion, and for the fact that Hungary regained its sovereignty in the process,” the Hungarian government said in a statement.

Ronald Reagan Statue Unveiled in Budapest - Emerging Europe Real Time - WSJ

Eat that, lib liar! I hope it goes down hard!

 

[teapartysamurai]

FDR started "Reefer Madness" outlawing hemp at the behest of the DuPonts

Have you ever seen "Reefer Madness?"

The "good guy" who narrates and gives the lesson at the end is an actor who is a look a like for FDR.

 

[teapartysamurai]

Congress under Ronald Reagan? Do they get any credit?

Congress 2007 under bush?

go away. a tit for tat stupid fest is happening somewhere else.

scram

Yeah! Dante can't keep lying about Reagan if you darn conservatives keep telling the truth in here!

 

[Dot Com]

TPS is on a KG-like posting-rampage. Fauxrage much?

 

[teapartysamurai]

Well I was 8 when Reagan left office... So I really never experienced that period as an adult or young adult..... Of course I remember Reagan, however most of what I've learned is via books, newspaper articles, old posts on BBS etc....

Absolutely, progressives thought Reagan was a crazy ass cowboy and the OP's post just goes to show how brainwashed progressives really are.

It's clear progressives do absolutely no research into their claims - they just take another talking head progressive babble to be the truth then pass it on - it's like the "telephone game."

I was 27 when Reagan left office. I remember it a LOT better, trust me.

I was proud to vote for Reagan when I was 18 (I voted absentee, as I was out of the state, Ohio, at the time, otherwise I would have turned 19, before I voted)

And I was proud to vote for Reagan again when I was 23.

I probably know a bit more about this thing about the arms, because my father was directly involved with it. He was a supervisor and then a manager on the B-1a and the B-1b, Nacelles and FIF (Forward Intermediate Fuselage).

As a matter of fact, Reagan called my Dad personally, to congratulate him on bringing the FIF in, under budget.

The B-1b was Reagan's Baby. So was Star Wars.

Unfortunately, the FIF killed my Dad. He didn't go to the doctor in time, (he worked on the FIF, 7 days a week). By the time he did go to the Doctor it was too late. He had pacreatic cancer and was given three weeks to live. He didn't live to see Reagan leave office. He died in 1986.

Anytime, I go to the Dayton Air Museum, I always touch the B-1B even though the signs say not to touch the planes. It's the legacy my Dad, left. I feel I'm owed.

OMFG! we have our own Baroness -- The Baroness T.P. Samurai Munchaussen

You can think I'm lying all you want, but it's the truth.

My Dad also worked on the B-70 (prototype for the B-1), Apollo 11 (and other apollo projects), the Trident Submarine, the B-1a and the B-1b.

I know of what I'm speaking.

You know those armaments didn't happen by magic. There ARE people who have to build them.

I know you libs think "You didn't build that!" But in my father's case, yes he did! He certainly did his part.

How the hell would I know what an FIF or a Nacelle if my father wasn't involved. I've never worked in aircraft.

And if you want to really have your mind blown. My Grandfather was over the entire production of the B-25 in Columbus, Los Angeles, and Detroit, during WWII.

He also (after the war), helped get up and running the first private industry jet engines built outside the military.

Cut me, I bleed aerospace fuel.

 

[teapartysamurai]

clue: the USSR was weak when Reagan took office. Either you believe this to be true, or you believe a super power can collapse from a mere few years of struggle.

clue: The USSR and the Soviet Block (you know what the soviet block was?) were already experiencing social change and divisions. POLAND SOLIDARITY WORKER'S UNION?
Leading conservatives like Howard Phillips said Reagan was weak on the Soviet Union

"...conservatives such as Phillips were accusing their old hero of selling out to the communists, The Washington Post said this in Reagan's last year: "In less than a decade, the world's largest creditor nation has become its leading debtor, foreign competition humbled America's mightiest companies, hundreds of thousands of manufacturing jobs have disappeared and middle-class living standards have declined in many communities.""
The Last Reagan Campaign: Legacy | USC Annenberg Center on Communication Leadership & Policy

When I was 18, I did my senior thesis (high school) on US/Soviet Treaty Violations in Afghanistan. He may be a joke now, but Geraldo Rivera, actually was a serious journalist, at one time, and did some crazy scary stuff.

He embedded with a tribe of Afghanis fighting the Soviets in Afghanistan, because he could pass for an Afghani and he documented the US/Soviet treaty violations they were doing in Afghanistan, including using napalm and biological warfare. in 1980.

The tribesman could not have held out had Reagan not supplied them with arms to fight back.

You know nothing of what you are talking about. You are practicing what liberals always do. You are telling us what you WISH to be true, and since it fits your narrative, you will convince yourself it is true, despite the evidence to the contrary.

That's liberalism 101.

Democratic Congressman Charlie Wilson

Reagan conservatives steal as well as lie? Oh well, you ain't really conservatives anyway.

Charlie Wilson (Texas politician) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Wikipedia again!



Yeah Reagan had nothing to do with it.

You libs keep telling yourselves that.

 

[teapartysamurai]

TPS is on a KG-like posting-rampage. Fauxrage much?

I think I see the rage.

It's coming from libs who think it is sooooooooooooooooooooo unfair that conservatives DARE disagree with the "all powerful, all knowing libreral."

Your arrogance and rage is just seething out.

 

[sfcalifornia]

Reagan defeated the USSR and collapsed their empire, he left them no choice but to complete their takeover of the Democrat Party

What a load of crap.

Reagan defeated the USSR....... How? By standing next to the Berlin Wall and demanding it be torn down? Bullshit. He's as responsible for ending the cold war as David Hasselhoff.

Cold War Museum

The collapse of the USSR started from within. He may have set a policy or two which aided the process but he certainly didn't defeat the USSR.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

Reagan defeated the USSR and collapsed their empire, he left them no choice but to complete their takeover of the Democrat Party

What a load of crap.

Reagan defeated the USSR....... How? By standing next to the Berlin Wall and demanding it be torn down? Bullshit. He's as responsible for ending the cold war as David Hasselhoff.

Cold War Museum

The collapse of the USSR started from within. He may have set a policy or two which aided the process but he certainly didn't defeat the USSR.

 

[teapartysamurai]

Reagan defeated the USSR and collapsed their empire, he left them no choice but to complete their takeover of the Democrat Party

What a load of crap.

Reagan defeated the USSR....... How? By standing next to the Berlin Wall and demanding it be torn down? Bullshit. He's as responsible for ending the cold war as David Hasselhoff.

Cold War Museum

The collapse of the USSR started from within. He may have set a policy or two which aided the process but he certainly didn't defeat the USSR.

And who told you that, your teacher?

Yes, Reagan did.

He did so by forcing the Soviet Union to keep up in the arms race which they couldn't financially handle.

Capitalism could handle it. We thrived.

The Communism couldn't, they collapsed.