The Right To Bear Arms

[Rustic]

Great Britain further restricted gun laws in 1986, the gun deaths dropped but the murder rate continued to rise until 1995 when they hire more law enforcement officers. Instead of guns, the murders found other methods to kill people. You want to kill someone, you will find a away.

That's an apologist argument. Gun deaths and deaths from violence in general are higher in the US. And as I havestated as an example multiple times , a person with a gun can kill multiple pepple at once effortlessly , now goodluck with a knife or a hammer.

Mean time I tell my friends all over the world, that there are people who defend owning guns, they can't comprehend it and they view you as crazy, paranoid, violent and lunatic.

Ps: I know you don't give a fuck about the rest of the world, and you don't give a fuck about kids being killed.

First off, you are wrong, if guns were the reason for the violence why did gun deaths go down and murders go up? According to what you claim, gun deaths would go down and murders would go down but it simply isn’t true. So, the issue isn’t the guns, the issue is the culture here in the United States. We need to change the culture, I have stated this fact many times in the past but it seems to go beyond people that have one agenda. The other issue is a mental health issue.

The rest of your post is an emotional rant and does nothing to further the discussion and quite frankly they are emotion based lies. That seems to be a left tactic like tossing in a race card, highly emotional yet no substance.

You want to change the culture, fine, then you are working on solutions, to simply ban guns won’t change anything and Britain’s stats proved that.

.....also, the strict gun laws in certain places here often foster MORE gun crimes. Kennesaw, Georgia has a law that says every household must have a firearm. The gun crime rate in Kennesaw is lower than almost any other place in the nation. Chicago has the most stringent gun laws...and the highest gun crime rate.

650 murders last year in Chicago.
25 years murder-free in ‘Gun Town USA’


ZERO murders in the last 25 years in Kennesaw.
25 years murder-free in ‘Gun Town USA’

It has low crime, yes. But so do most towns of 21K or less. Without or Without the peculiar gun law that they passed. Just down the road is a town of the same size. It has had NO gun crimes in at least 20 years. Now, compare Houston and you get a completely different set of figures. Try not to cherry pick. It's too easy to see past it.

I agree the small size of the town makes gun crimes less probable. Chicago remains the supreme example of proof that strict gun laws do not prevent gun crimes.

Give me a link that names the town just down the road....

More frivolous gun laws equals more violent crime.
Criminals are always for the strictest possible gun laws… fact

 

[KeiserC]

Although I don't own or would never own an AR-15 - I can relate to the Rambo mentality from my younger days. When the Rifleman TV show with Chuck Connors was popular from 1958 to 1963, I had access to my grandfather's lever-action .32 Special. We lived on a remote self-sufficient farm, and I would take it out in the woods and pretend to be the Rifleman. I burned up a lot of ammo (as much as granddad could afford on his meager farm income) - and I can still remember what my mentality was when I was cranking that lever. I was in my early teens. However, I grew up to be an ethical and responsible gun owner and hunter. I cherish my guns - but I detest the NRA. This is somewhat apple and oranges to today's gun problems, but I thought I would share my little story of life on the farm. I consider the NRA the biggest threat to my future gun rights. The NRA was once a great outfit - until it was hijacked by radicals in 1977. The NRA later hijacked the Republican Party.

How NRA’s true believers converted a marksmanship group into a mighty gun lobby

I don't own one either.

I already have a perfectly fine .223 semiauto in my mini 14. I do not see the reason to buy another.

But I also know that the AR is no different than my mini 14 but for some cosmetics

The real difference is the Cyclic Rate. The AR has a much higher one than the Mini-14.

Shit for brains, The cycling rate can vary between both ARs and minis, depending on the manufacturer, Bolt and carrier weights, buffer springs, gas system, etc. THEY ARE BASICALLY THE SAME...
Over the counter ARs generally shot 1” inch MOA, where as over the counter minis shot around 2” inch MOA.
You don’t have a clue of what you’re talking about…

They are all 'squirrel guns... for 'varmints'... out of the box you can't expect much less than 1"MOA... the thing is that they are like legos... buy a leijia barrel, Hart, or Shillen if you want to go heavy, the choices are endless... Then buy an action.... top to bottom... the barrel determines the usefulness of the 'damn' squirrel apparatus... that has been coined an 'Assault Rifle'.... LOL..sorry... not even close to a good squirrel gun....

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Although I don't own or would never own an AR-15 - I can relate to the Rambo mentality from my younger days. When the Rifleman TV show with Chuck Connors was popular from 1958 to 1963, I had access to my grandfather's lever-action .32 Special. We lived on a remote self-sufficient farm, and I would take it out in the woods and pretend to be the Rifleman. I burned up a lot of ammo (as much as granddad could afford on his meager farm income) - and I can still remember what my mentality was when I was cranking that lever. I was in my early teens. However, I grew up to be an ethical and responsible gun owner and hunter. I cherish my guns - but I detest the NRA. This is somewhat apple and oranges to today's gun problems, but I thought I would share my little story of life on the farm. I consider the NRA the biggest threat to my future gun rights. The NRA was once a great outfit - until it was hijacked by radicals in 1977. The NRA later hijacked the Republican Party.

How NRA’s true believers converted a marksmanship group into a mighty gun lobby

I don't own one either.

I already have a perfectly fine .223 semiauto in my mini 14. I do not see the reason to buy another.

But I also know that the AR is no different than my mini 14 but for some cosmetics

The real difference is the Cyclic Rate. The AR has a much higher one than the Mini-14.

Shit for brains, The cycling rate can vary between both ARs and minis, depending on the manufacturer, Bolt and carrier weights, buffer springs, gas system, etc. THEY ARE BASICALLY THE SAME...
Over the counter ARs generally shot 1” inch MOA, where as over the counter minis shot around 2” inch MOA.
You don’t have a clue of what you’re talking about…

Theory has it that the Semi Auto is capable of 180 rounds a minute. But reality says it can't be done. But you can get off 3 shots a second for 10 seconds before you have to change your 30 round clip. And the process starts all over again. This is for the AR-15 and it's variants.

The AR-15 uses the direct impingement gas operating system. It's cheap, fast and easy to manufacture. The Mini-14 uses the conventional gas piston operating system like it's big brother, the M-14. The AR uses quite a few Aluminum parts while the Mini-14 uses all steel. Steel is heavier, ergo, the cyclic rate will be slower. Simple Physics.

And what does MOA have to do with the cyclic rate? Nothing. MOA is about adjusting for drop of the bullet. Don't you feel foolish now?

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Although I don't own or would never own an AR-15 - I can relate to the Rambo mentality from my younger days. When the Rifleman TV show with Chuck Connors was popular from 1958 to 1963, I had access to my grandfather's lever-action .32 Special. We lived on a remote self-sufficient farm, and I would take it out in the woods and pretend to be the Rifleman. I burned up a lot of ammo (as much as granddad could afford on his meager farm income) - and I can still remember what my mentality was when I was cranking that lever. I was in my early teens. However, I grew up to be an ethical and responsible gun owner and hunter. I cherish my guns - but I detest the NRA. This is somewhat apple and oranges to today's gun problems, but I thought I would share my little story of life on the farm. I consider the NRA the biggest threat to my future gun rights. The NRA was once a great outfit - until it was hijacked by radicals in 1977. The NRA later hijacked the Republican Party.

How NRA’s true believers converted a marksmanship group into a mighty gun lobby

I don't own one either.

I already have a perfectly fine .223 semiauto in my mini 14. I do not see the reason to buy another.

But I also know that the AR is no different than my mini 14 but for some cosmetics

The real difference is the Cyclic Rate. The AR has a much higher one than the Mini-14.

Shit for brains, The cycling rate can vary between both ARs and minis, depending on the manufacturer, Bolt and carrier weights, buffer springs, gas system, etc. THEY ARE BASICALLY THE SAME...
Over the counter ARs generally shot 1” inch MOA, where as over the counter minis shot around 2” inch MOA.
You don’t have a clue of what you’re talking about…

They are all 'squirrel guns... for 'varmints'... out of the box you can't expect much less than 1"MOA... the thing is that they are like legos... buy a leijia barrel, Hart, or Shillen if you want to go heavy, the choices are endless... Then buy an action.... top to bottom... the barrel determines the usefulness of the 'damn' squirrel apparatus... that has been coined an 'Assault Rifle'.... LOL..sorry... not even close to a good squirrel gun....

Anything in the 223 or 556 with any less than a 24 inch barrel is pretty worthless. The 24 inch barrel is very accurate at out to about 600 yds and makes a great varmint gun. The problem is, many buy them with the 16 to 18 inch barrel making them worthless for hunting anything other than a school yard packed full of school children or movie goers.

 

[Rustic]

Although I don't own or would never own an AR-15 - I can relate to the Rambo mentality from my younger days. When the Rifleman TV show with Chuck Connors was popular from 1958 to 1963, I had access to my grandfather's lever-action .32 Special. We lived on a remote self-sufficient farm, and I would take it out in the woods and pretend to be the Rifleman. I burned up a lot of ammo (as much as granddad could afford on his meager farm income) - and I can still remember what my mentality was when I was cranking that lever. I was in my early teens. However, I grew up to be an ethical and responsible gun owner and hunter. I cherish my guns - but I detest the NRA. This is somewhat apple and oranges to today's gun problems, but I thought I would share my little story of life on the farm. I consider the NRA the biggest threat to my future gun rights. The NRA was once a great outfit - until it was hijacked by radicals in 1977. The NRA later hijacked the Republican Party.

How NRA’s true believers converted a marksmanship group into a mighty gun lobby

I don't own one either.

I already have a perfectly fine .223 semiauto in my mini 14. I do not see the reason to buy another.

But I also know that the AR is no different than my mini 14 but for some cosmetics

The real difference is the Cyclic Rate. The AR has a much higher one than the Mini-14.

Shit for brains, The cycling rate can vary between both ARs and minis, depending on the manufacturer, Bolt and carrier weights, buffer springs, gas system, etc. THEY ARE BASICALLY THE SAME...
Over the counter ARs generally shot 1” inch MOA, where as over the counter minis shot around 2” inch MOA.
You don’t have a clue of what you’re talking about…

Theory has it that the Semi Auto is capable of 180 rounds a minute. But reality says it can't be done. But you can get off 3 shots a second for 10 seconds before you have to change your 30 round clip. And the process starts all over again. This is for the AR-15 and it's variants.

The AR-15 uses the direct impingement gas operating system. It's cheap, fast and easy to manufacture. The Mini-14 uses the conventional gas piston operating system like it's big brother, the M-14. The AR uses quite a few Aluminum parts while the Mini-14 uses all steel. Steel is heavier, ergo, the cyclic rate will be slower. Simple Physics.

And what does MOA have to do with the cyclic rate? Nothing. MOA is about adjusting for drop of the bullet. Don't you feel foolish now?

First of all they are called magazines not clips. dumbass
And like I said it depends on the AR and mini. Not all of the manufacturers use aluminum or steel each one is different. The cycle rate for both generally is the same.

You said in the earlier post the mini 14’s are better for hunting, not true, over-the-counter ARs are more accurate than minis generally, like I said.
You are the foolish one.

 

[KeiserC]

Although I don't own or would never own an AR-15 - I can relate to the Rambo mentality from my younger days. When the Rifleman TV show with Chuck Connors was popular from 1958 to 1963, I had access to my grandfather's lever-action .32 Special. We lived on a remote self-sufficient farm, and I would take it out in the woods and pretend to be the Rifleman. I burned up a lot of ammo (as much as granddad could afford on his meager farm income) - and I can still remember what my mentality was when I was cranking that lever. I was in my early teens. However, I grew up to be an ethical and responsible gun owner and hunter. I cherish my guns - but I detest the NRA. This is somewhat apple and oranges to today's gun problems, but I thought I would share my little story of life on the farm. I consider the NRA the biggest threat to my future gun rights. The NRA was once a great outfit - until it was hijacked by radicals in 1977. The NRA later hijacked the Republican Party.

How NRA’s true believers converted a marksmanship group into a mighty gun lobby

I don't own one either.

I already have a perfectly fine .223 semiauto in my mini 14. I do not see the reason to buy another.

But I also know that the AR is no different than my mini 14 but for some cosmetics

The real difference is the Cyclic Rate. The AR has a much higher one than the Mini-14.

Shit for brains, The cycling rate can vary between both ARs and minis, depending on the manufacturer, Bolt and carrier weights, buffer springs, gas system, etc. THEY ARE BASICALLY THE SAME...
Over the counter ARs generally shot 1” inch MOA, where as over the counter minis shot around 2” inch MOA.
You don’t have a clue of what you’re talking about…

They are all 'squirrel guns... for 'varmints'... out of the box you can't expect much less than 1"MOA... the thing is that they are like legos... buy a leijia barrel, Hart, or Shillen if you want to go heavy, the choices are endless... Then buy an action.... top to bottom... the barrel determines the usefulness of the 'damn' squirrel apparatus... that has been coined an 'Assault Rifle'.... LOL..sorry... not even close to a good squirrel gun....

Anything in the 223 or 556 with any less than a 24 inch barrel is pretty worthless. The 24 inch barrel is very accurate at out to about 600 yds and makes a great varmint gun. The problem is, many buy them with the 16 to 18 inch barrel making them worthless for hunting anything other than a school yard packed full of school children or movie goers.

God Bless if you're all enthused about an AR purchase....

Save us the stats... If you reload your spent brass... you might make your 'box store gun' into a really "tight" shooter.... Don't hunt anything larger than rabbits with it and definitely don't use the FMJ's that are so abundant... Nosler and Hornady are worth the money... if you actually want to humanely hunt... If and only If you use A-max partition bullets you might ethically expand your 'humane' hunting to 30 - 50 lbs. critters...

 

[Rustic]

Although I don't own or would never own an AR-15 - I can relate to the Rambo mentality from my younger days. When the Rifleman TV show with Chuck Connors was popular from 1958 to 1963, I had access to my grandfather's lever-action .32 Special. We lived on a remote self-sufficient farm, and I would take it out in the woods and pretend to be the Rifleman. I burned up a lot of ammo (as much as granddad could afford on his meager farm income) - and I can still remember what my mentality was when I was cranking that lever. I was in my early teens. However, I grew up to be an ethical and responsible gun owner and hunter. I cherish my guns - but I detest the NRA. This is somewhat apple and oranges to today's gun problems, but I thought I would share my little story of life on the farm. I consider the NRA the biggest threat to my future gun rights. The NRA was once a great outfit - until it was hijacked by radicals in 1977. The NRA later hijacked the Republican Party.

How NRA’s true believers converted a marksmanship group into a mighty gun lobby

I don't own one either.

I already have a perfectly fine .223 semiauto in my mini 14. I do not see the reason to buy another.

But I also know that the AR is no different than my mini 14 but for some cosmetics

The real difference is the Cyclic Rate. The AR has a much higher one than the Mini-14.

Shit for brains, The cycling rate can vary between both ARs and minis, depending on the manufacturer, Bolt and carrier weights, buffer springs, gas system, etc. THEY ARE BASICALLY THE SAME...
Over the counter ARs generally shot 1” inch MOA, where as over the counter minis shot around 2” inch MOA.
You don’t have a clue of what you’re talking about…

They are all 'squirrel guns... for 'varmints'... out of the box you can't expect much less than 1"MOA... the thing is that they are like legos... buy a leijia barrel, Hart, or Shillen if you want to go heavy, the choices are endless... Then buy an action.... top to bottom... the barrel determines the usefulness of the 'damn' squirrel apparatus... that has been coined an 'Assault Rifle'.... LOL..sorry... not even close to a good squirrel gun....

Anything in the 223 or 556 with any less than a 24 inch barrel is pretty worthless. The 24 inch barrel is very accurate at out to about 600 yds and makes a great varmint gun. The problem is, many buy them with the 16 to 18 inch barrel making them worthless for hunting anything other than a school yard packed full of school children or movie goers.

AR-15 Rifle Barrel Length - Does It Even Matter? Maybe NOT

The combination of grain and twist has a lot more to do with accuracy than barrel length ever has.. dumbass

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Although I don't own or would never own an AR-15 - I can relate to the Rambo mentality from my younger days. When the Rifleman TV show with Chuck Connors was popular from 1958 to 1963, I had access to my grandfather's lever-action .32 Special. We lived on a remote self-sufficient farm, and I would take it out in the woods and pretend to be the Rifleman. I burned up a lot of ammo (as much as granddad could afford on his meager farm income) - and I can still remember what my mentality was when I was cranking that lever. I was in my early teens. However, I grew up to be an ethical and responsible gun owner and hunter. I cherish my guns - but I detest the NRA. This is somewhat apple and oranges to today's gun problems, but I thought I would share my little story of life on the farm. I consider the NRA the biggest threat to my future gun rights. The NRA was once a great outfit - until it was hijacked by radicals in 1977. The NRA later hijacked the Republican Party.

How NRA’s true believers converted a marksmanship group into a mighty gun lobby

I don't own one either.

I already have a perfectly fine .223 semiauto in my mini 14. I do not see the reason to buy another.

But I also know that the AR is no different than my mini 14 but for some cosmetics

The real difference is the Cyclic Rate. The AR has a much higher one than the Mini-14.

Shit for brains, The cycling rate can vary between both ARs and minis, depending on the manufacturer, Bolt and carrier weights, buffer springs, gas system, etc. THEY ARE BASICALLY THE SAME...
Over the counter ARs generally shot 1” inch MOA, where as over the counter minis shot around 2” inch MOA.
You don’t have a clue of what you’re talking about…

Theory has it that the Semi Auto is capable of 180 rounds a minute. But reality says it can't be done. But you can get off 3 shots a second for 10 seconds before you have to change your 30 round clip. And the process starts all over again. This is for the AR-15 and it's variants.

The AR-15 uses the direct impingement gas operating system. It's cheap, fast and easy to manufacture. The Mini-14 uses the conventional gas piston operating system like it's big brother, the M-14. The AR uses quite a few Aluminum parts while the Mini-14 uses all steel. Steel is heavier, ergo, the cyclic rate will be slower. Simple Physics.

And what does MOA have to do with the cyclic rate? Nothing. MOA is about adjusting for drop of the bullet. Don't you feel foolish now?

First of all they are called magazines not clips. dumbass
And like I said it depends on the AR and mini. Not all of the manufacturers use aluminum or steel each one is different. The cycle rate for both generally is the same.

You said in the earlier post the mini 14’s are better for hunting, not true, over-the-counter ARs are more accurate than minis generally, like I said.
You are the foolish one.

I am older than you are so I will call them Clips. It dates back to the old way of loading where the bullets are on clips and fed into the gun from the top. But it's generally accepted to replace the word clips with mags. And vice versa. You sure do sound foolish on this one. And the more you try to make others look stupid, the more apparent that it's YOU that isn't too bright.

If you purchase a 24 in barreled Mini-14 is is very accurate. If you purchase a 16 in AR it has trouble hitting the proverbial barn door at any range other than close. It's not the gun, it's the cartridge. If I were to buy a new Mini-14 it would have a 24 inch barrel. If you were to purchase a new AR chances are you will be getting the Carbine version of 16 in barrel. Now, use a little physics here. Same goes if one were to buy a Mini-14 with a 16 in barrel and buy an AR with a 24 in barrel. The AR would be more accurate when the tables are turned.

And the reason the MOA is better on the AR is the fact it's not shooting normal 223 ammo. When you buy ammo, you can buy the Nato .556 round that is hotter. But beware. Unless you spent the money to get the barrel to shoot the Nato 556, you are going to wear out your barrel very, very quickly.

Learn to be nice.

 

[Rustic]

I don't own one either.

I already have a perfectly fine .223 semiauto in my mini 14. I do not see the reason to buy another.

But I also know that the AR is no different than my mini 14 but for some cosmetics

The real difference is the Cyclic Rate. The AR has a much higher one than the Mini-14.

Shit for brains, The cycling rate can vary between both ARs and minis, depending on the manufacturer, Bolt and carrier weights, buffer springs, gas system, etc. THEY ARE BASICALLY THE SAME...
Over the counter ARs generally shot 1” inch MOA, where as over the counter minis shot around 2” inch MOA.
You don’t have a clue of what you’re talking about…

Theory has it that the Semi Auto is capable of 180 rounds a minute. But reality says it can't be done. But you can get off 3 shots a second for 10 seconds before you have to change your 30 round clip. And the process starts all over again. This is for the AR-15 and it's variants.

The AR-15 uses the direct impingement gas operating system. It's cheap, fast and easy to manufacture. The Mini-14 uses the conventional gas piston operating system like it's big brother, the M-14. The AR uses quite a few Aluminum parts while the Mini-14 uses all steel. Steel is heavier, ergo, the cyclic rate will be slower. Simple Physics.

And what does MOA have to do with the cyclic rate? Nothing. MOA is about adjusting for drop of the bullet. Don't you feel foolish now?

First of all they are called magazines not clips. dumbass
And like I said it depends on the AR and mini. Not all of the manufacturers use aluminum or steel each one is different. The cycle rate for both generally is the same.

You said in the earlier post the mini 14’s are better for hunting, not true, over-the-counter ARs are more accurate than minis generally, like I said.
You are the foolish one.

I am older than you are so I will call them Clips. It dates back to the old way of loading where the bullets are on clips and fed into the gun from the top. But it's generally accepted to replace the word clips with mags. And vice versa. You sure do sound foolish on this one. And the more you try to make others look stupid, the more apparent that it's YOU that isn't too bright.

If you purchase a 24 in barreled Mini-14 is is very accurate. If you purchase a 16 in AR it has trouble hitting the proverbial barn door at any range other than close. It's not the gun, it's the cartridge. If I were to buy a new Mini-14 it would have a 24 inch barrel. If you were to purchase a new AR chances are you will be getting the Carbine version of 16 in barrel. Now, use a little physics here. Same goes if one were to buy a Mini-14 with a 16 in barrel and buy an AR with a 24 in barrel. The AR would be more accurate when the tables are turned.

And the reason the MOA is better on the AR is the fact it's not shooting normal 223 ammo. When you buy ammo, you can buy the Nato .556 round that is hotter. But beware. Unless you spent the money to get the barrel to shoot the Nato 556, you are going to wear out your barrel very, very quickly.

Learn to be nice.

 

[Desperado]

Stop Repeating False Propaganda
No ties found between Parkland shooter, white nationalist group
No ties found between Parkland shooter, white nationalist group

 

[Rustic]

I don't own one either.

I already have a perfectly fine .223 semiauto in my mini 14. I do not see the reason to buy another.

But I also know that the AR is no different than my mini 14 but for some cosmetics

The real difference is the Cyclic Rate. The AR has a much higher one than the Mini-14.

Shit for brains, The cycling rate can vary between both ARs and minis, depending on the manufacturer, Bolt and carrier weights, buffer springs, gas system, etc. THEY ARE BASICALLY THE SAME...
Over the counter ARs generally shot 1” inch MOA, where as over the counter minis shot around 2” inch MOA.
You don’t have a clue of what you’re talking about…

Theory has it that the Semi Auto is capable of 180 rounds a minute. But reality says it can't be done. But you can get off 3 shots a second for 10 seconds before you have to change your 30 round clip. And the process starts all over again. This is for the AR-15 and it's variants.

The AR-15 uses the direct impingement gas operating system. It's cheap, fast and easy to manufacture. The Mini-14 uses the conventional gas piston operating system like it's big brother, the M-14. The AR uses quite a few Aluminum parts while the Mini-14 uses all steel. Steel is heavier, ergo, the cyclic rate will be slower. Simple Physics.

And what does MOA have to do with the cyclic rate? Nothing. MOA is about adjusting for drop of the bullet. Don't you feel foolish now?

First of all they are called magazines not clips. dumbass
And like I said it depends on the AR and mini. Not all of the manufacturers use aluminum or steel each one is different. The cycle rate for both generally is the same.

You said in the earlier post the mini 14’s are better for hunting, not true, over-the-counter ARs are more accurate than minis generally, like I said.
You are the foolish one.

I am older than you are so I will call them Clips. It dates back to the old way of loading where the bullets are on clips and fed into the gun from the top. But it's generally accepted to replace the word clips with mags. And vice versa. You sure do sound foolish on this one. And the more you try to make others look stupid, the more apparent that it's YOU that isn't too bright.

If you purchase a 24 in barreled Mini-14 is is very accurate. If you purchase a 16 in AR it has trouble hitting the proverbial barn door at any range other than close. It's not the gun, it's the cartridge. If I were to buy a new Mini-14 it would have a 24 inch barrel. If you were to purchase a new AR chances are you will be getting the Carbine version of 16 in barrel. Now, use a little physics here. Same goes if one were to buy a Mini-14 with a 16 in barrel and buy an AR with a 24 in barrel. The AR would be more accurate when the tables are turned.

And the reason the MOA is better on the AR is the fact it's not shooting normal 223 ammo. When you buy ammo, you can buy the Nato .556 round that is hotter. But beware. Unless you spent the money to get the barrel to shoot the Nato 556, you are going to wear out your barrel very, very quickly.

Learn to be nice.

Wrong again, the combination of twist and grain has a lot more to do with accuracy than barrel length will.
Some rounds hate more bore time, Every rifle has their own personality some barrels hate some rounds. 1/7, 1/9 or whatever will work or it will not depending on the weight of the bullet, Length of the barrel has nothing to do with it.
It depends on how although round is loaded, what kind of powder, how much powder, what type of bullet there are dozens of factors.
If The barrel says 556 on it it can shoot both .223 – 5.56 because of clearances not the “power”. If your barrel says .223 on it it’s best not to shoot 5.56 because of clearances again.
So basically if you want to build an accurate 600+ yards shooter with a 16 inch barrel you can do it just fine, barrel length has nothing to do with it.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

The real difference is the Cyclic Rate. The AR has a much higher one than the Mini-14.

Shit for brains, The cycling rate can vary between both ARs and minis, depending on the manufacturer, Bolt and carrier weights, buffer springs, gas system, etc. THEY ARE BASICALLY THE SAME...
Over the counter ARs generally shot 1” inch MOA, where as over the counter minis shot around 2” inch MOA.
You don’t have a clue of what you’re talking about…

Theory has it that the Semi Auto is capable of 180 rounds a minute. But reality says it can't be done. But you can get off 3 shots a second for 10 seconds before you have to change your 30 round clip. And the process starts all over again. This is for the AR-15 and it's variants.

The AR-15 uses the direct impingement gas operating system. It's cheap, fast and easy to manufacture. The Mini-14 uses the conventional gas piston operating system like it's big brother, the M-14. The AR uses quite a few Aluminum parts while the Mini-14 uses all steel. Steel is heavier, ergo, the cyclic rate will be slower. Simple Physics.

And what does MOA have to do with the cyclic rate? Nothing. MOA is about adjusting for drop of the bullet. Don't you feel foolish now?

First of all they are called magazines not clips. dumbass
And like I said it depends on the AR and mini. Not all of the manufacturers use aluminum or steel each one is different. The cycle rate for both generally is the same.

You said in the earlier post the mini 14’s are better for hunting, not true, over-the-counter ARs are more accurate than minis generally, like I said.
You are the foolish one.

I am older than you are so I will call them Clips. It dates back to the old way of loading where the bullets are on clips and fed into the gun from the top. But it's generally accepted to replace the word clips with mags. And vice versa. You sure do sound foolish on this one. And the more you try to make others look stupid, the more apparent that it's YOU that isn't too bright.

If you purchase a 24 in barreled Mini-14 is is very accurate. If you purchase a 16 in AR it has trouble hitting the proverbial barn door at any range other than close. It's not the gun, it's the cartridge. If I were to buy a new Mini-14 it would have a 24 inch barrel. If you were to purchase a new AR chances are you will be getting the Carbine version of 16 in barrel. Now, use a little physics here. Same goes if one were to buy a Mini-14 with a 16 in barrel and buy an AR with a 24 in barrel. The AR would be more accurate when the tables are turned.

And the reason the MOA is better on the AR is the fact it's not shooting normal 223 ammo. When you buy ammo, you can buy the Nato .556 round that is hotter. But beware. Unless you spent the money to get the barrel to shoot the Nato 556, you are going to wear out your barrel very, very quickly.

Learn to be nice.

Is that the best you got? What you are saying is that you support the murdering of our School Children, Movie Goers, People worshiping in Churches, large gatherings of innocent people. Yes, accept your sin. But don't expect the rest of us to do the same.

ALL of the largest Mass Murders in the last 25 years have all been done by an AR-15 or one of it's copies. And most were purchased legally. That same reason was for handling of the Thompson in 1934. So accept your responsability of murdering our Children.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

The real difference is the Cyclic Rate. The AR has a much higher one than the Mini-14.

Shit for brains, The cycling rate can vary between both ARs and minis, depending on the manufacturer, Bolt and carrier weights, buffer springs, gas system, etc. THEY ARE BASICALLY THE SAME...
Over the counter ARs generally shot 1” inch MOA, where as over the counter minis shot around 2” inch MOA.
You don’t have a clue of what you’re talking about…

Theory has it that the Semi Auto is capable of 180 rounds a minute. But reality says it can't be done. But you can get off 3 shots a second for 10 seconds before you have to change your 30 round clip. And the process starts all over again. This is for the AR-15 and it's variants.

The AR-15 uses the direct impingement gas operating system. It's cheap, fast and easy to manufacture. The Mini-14 uses the conventional gas piston operating system like it's big brother, the M-14. The AR uses quite a few Aluminum parts while the Mini-14 uses all steel. Steel is heavier, ergo, the cyclic rate will be slower. Simple Physics.

And what does MOA have to do with the cyclic rate? Nothing. MOA is about adjusting for drop of the bullet. Don't you feel foolish now?

First of all they are called magazines not clips. dumbass
And like I said it depends on the AR and mini. Not all of the manufacturers use aluminum or steel each one is different. The cycle rate for both generally is the same.

You said in the earlier post the mini 14’s are better for hunting, not true, over-the-counter ARs are more accurate than minis generally, like I said.
You are the foolish one.

I am older than you are so I will call them Clips. It dates back to the old way of loading where the bullets are on clips and fed into the gun from the top. But it's generally accepted to replace the word clips with mags. And vice versa. You sure do sound foolish on this one. And the more you try to make others look stupid, the more apparent that it's YOU that isn't too bright.

If you purchase a 24 in barreled Mini-14 is is very accurate. If you purchase a 16 in AR it has trouble hitting the proverbial barn door at any range other than close. It's not the gun, it's the cartridge. If I were to buy a new Mini-14 it would have a 24 inch barrel. If you were to purchase a new AR chances are you will be getting the Carbine version of 16 in barrel. Now, use a little physics here. Same goes if one were to buy a Mini-14 with a 16 in barrel and buy an AR with a 24 in barrel. The AR would be more accurate when the tables are turned.

And the reason the MOA is better on the AR is the fact it's not shooting normal 223 ammo. When you buy ammo, you can buy the Nato .556 round that is hotter. But beware. Unless you spent the money to get the barrel to shoot the Nato 556, you are going to wear out your barrel very, very quickly.

Learn to be nice.

Wrong again, the combination of twist and grain has a lot more to do with accuracy than barrel length will.
Some rounds hate more bore time, Every rifle has their own personality some barrels hate some rounds. 1/7, 1/9 or whatever will work or it will not depending on the weight of the bullet, Length of the barrel has nothing to do with it.
It depends on how although round is loaded, what kind of powder, how much powder, what type of bullet there are dozens of factors.
If The barrel says 556 on it it can shoot both .223 – 5.56 because of clearances not the “power”. If your barrel says .223 on it it’s best not to shoot 5.56 because of clearances again.
So basically if you want to build an accurate 600+ yards shooter with a 16 inch barrel you can do it just fine, barrel length has nothing to do with it.

Barrel length has nothing to do with it? What are you smoking over there. Are you aware that your Grass consumption prevents you from legally owning fire arms?

 

[Rustic]

Shit for brains, The cycling rate can vary between both ARs and minis, depending on the manufacturer, Bolt and carrier weights, buffer springs, gas system, etc. THEY ARE BASICALLY THE SAME...
Over the counter ARs generally shot 1” inch MOA, where as over the counter minis shot around 2” inch MOA.
You don’t have a clue of what you’re talking about…

Theory has it that the Semi Auto is capable of 180 rounds a minute. But reality says it can't be done. But you can get off 3 shots a second for 10 seconds before you have to change your 30 round clip. And the process starts all over again. This is for the AR-15 and it's variants.

The AR-15 uses the direct impingement gas operating system. It's cheap, fast and easy to manufacture. The Mini-14 uses the conventional gas piston operating system like it's big brother, the M-14. The AR uses quite a few Aluminum parts while the Mini-14 uses all steel. Steel is heavier, ergo, the cyclic rate will be slower. Simple Physics.

And what does MOA have to do with the cyclic rate? Nothing. MOA is about adjusting for drop of the bullet. Don't you feel foolish now?

First of all they are called magazines not clips. dumbass
And like I said it depends on the AR and mini. Not all of the manufacturers use aluminum or steel each one is different. The cycle rate for both generally is the same.

You said in the earlier post the mini 14’s are better for hunting, not true, over-the-counter ARs are more accurate than minis generally, like I said.
You are the foolish one.

I am older than you are so I will call them Clips. It dates back to the old way of loading where the bullets are on clips and fed into the gun from the top. But it's generally accepted to replace the word clips with mags. And vice versa. You sure do sound foolish on this one. And the more you try to make others look stupid, the more apparent that it's YOU that isn't too bright.

If you purchase a 24 in barreled Mini-14 is is very accurate. If you purchase a 16 in AR it has trouble hitting the proverbial barn door at any range other than close. It's not the gun, it's the cartridge. If I were to buy a new Mini-14 it would have a 24 inch barrel. If you were to purchase a new AR chances are you will be getting the Carbine version of 16 in barrel. Now, use a little physics here. Same goes if one were to buy a Mini-14 with a 16 in barrel and buy an AR with a 24 in barrel. The AR would be more accurate when the tables are turned.

And the reason the MOA is better on the AR is the fact it's not shooting normal 223 ammo. When you buy ammo, you can buy the Nato .556 round that is hotter. But beware. Unless you spent the money to get the barrel to shoot the Nato 556, you are going to wear out your barrel very, very quickly.

Learn to be nice.

Is that the best you got? What you are saying is that you support the murdering of our School Children, Movie Goers, People worshiping in Churches, large gatherings of innocent people. Yes, accept your sin. But don't expect the rest of us to do the same.

ALL of the largest Mass Murders in the last 25 years have all been done by an AR-15 or one of it's copies. And most were purchased legally. That same reason was for handling of the Thompson in 1934. So accept your responsability of murdering our Children.

You do realize people kill people not firearms?
More people die from falling out of bed and smoking in bed, than people killed by someone using an AR15 sporting rifle.
Handguns are used for most violent crime in this country by a long shot. Very few deaths are caused by people using ARs, And there are millions of them in this country that’s a very, very low ratio. Firearms cannot control people.
Firearm violence by ARs is a non-issue, We have much bigger fish to fry. So far this year almost 33,000 people have died from medical errors.
Just take your pick…
2018 Real Time Death Statistics in America
Terrorists much prefer bombs/vehicles, For terrorism and they have access to anything they want. So don’t give me that fucking shit that it’s some sporting rifle that causes mass murders you fucking dolt...
So go ahead and live your delusion you sinless snowflake.... lol

 

[Rustic]

Shit for brains, The cycling rate can vary between both ARs and minis, depending on the manufacturer, Bolt and carrier weights, buffer springs, gas system, etc. THEY ARE BASICALLY THE SAME...
Over the counter ARs generally shot 1” inch MOA, where as over the counter minis shot around 2” inch MOA.
You don’t have a clue of what you’re talking about…

Theory has it that the Semi Auto is capable of 180 rounds a minute. But reality says it can't be done. But you can get off 3 shots a second for 10 seconds before you have to change your 30 round clip. And the process starts all over again. This is for the AR-15 and it's variants.

The AR-15 uses the direct impingement gas operating system. It's cheap, fast and easy to manufacture. The Mini-14 uses the conventional gas piston operating system like it's big brother, the M-14. The AR uses quite a few Aluminum parts while the Mini-14 uses all steel. Steel is heavier, ergo, the cyclic rate will be slower. Simple Physics.

And what does MOA have to do with the cyclic rate? Nothing. MOA is about adjusting for drop of the bullet. Don't you feel foolish now?

First of all they are called magazines not clips. dumbass
And like I said it depends on the AR and mini. Not all of the manufacturers use aluminum or steel each one is different. The cycle rate for both generally is the same.

You said in the earlier post the mini 14’s are better for hunting, not true, over-the-counter ARs are more accurate than minis generally, like I said.
You are the foolish one.

I am older than you are so I will call them Clips. It dates back to the old way of loading where the bullets are on clips and fed into the gun from the top. But it's generally accepted to replace the word clips with mags. And vice versa. You sure do sound foolish on this one. And the more you try to make others look stupid, the more apparent that it's YOU that isn't too bright.

If you purchase a 24 in barreled Mini-14 is is very accurate. If you purchase a 16 in AR it has trouble hitting the proverbial barn door at any range other than close. It's not the gun, it's the cartridge. If I were to buy a new Mini-14 it would have a 24 inch barrel. If you were to purchase a new AR chances are you will be getting the Carbine version of 16 in barrel. Now, use a little physics here. Same goes if one were to buy a Mini-14 with a 16 in barrel and buy an AR with a 24 in barrel. The AR would be more accurate when the tables are turned.

And the reason the MOA is better on the AR is the fact it's not shooting normal 223 ammo. When you buy ammo, you can buy the Nato .556 round that is hotter. But beware. Unless you spent the money to get the barrel to shoot the Nato 556, you are going to wear out your barrel very, very quickly.

Learn to be nice.

Wrong again, the combination of twist and grain has a lot more to do with accuracy than barrel length will.
Some rounds hate more bore time, Every rifle has their own personality some barrels hate some rounds. 1/7, 1/9 or whatever will work or it will not depending on the weight of the bullet, Length of the barrel has nothing to do with it.
It depends on how although round is loaded, what kind of powder, how much powder, what type of bullet there are dozens of factors.
If The barrel says 556 on it it can shoot both .223 – 5.56 because of clearances not the “power”. If your barrel says .223 on it it’s best not to shoot 5.56 because of clearances again.
So basically if you want to build an accurate 600+ yards shooter with a 16 inch barrel you can do it just fine, barrel length has nothing to do with it.

Barrel length has nothing to do with it? What are you smoking over there. Are you aware that your Grass consumption prevents you from legally owning fire arms?

Barrel length is not the only determiner of accuracy he never has been never will be

 

[Rustic]

Shit for brains, The cycling rate can vary between both ARs and minis, depending on the manufacturer, Bolt and carrier weights, buffer springs, gas system, etc. THEY ARE BASICALLY THE SAME...
Over the counter ARs generally shot 1” inch MOA, where as over the counter minis shot around 2” inch MOA.
You don’t have a clue of what you’re talking about…

Theory has it that the Semi Auto is capable of 180 rounds a minute. But reality says it can't be done. But you can get off 3 shots a second for 10 seconds before you have to change your 30 round clip. And the process starts all over again. This is for the AR-15 and it's variants.

The AR-15 uses the direct impingement gas operating system. It's cheap, fast and easy to manufacture. The Mini-14 uses the conventional gas piston operating system like it's big brother, the M-14. The AR uses quite a few Aluminum parts while the Mini-14 uses all steel. Steel is heavier, ergo, the cyclic rate will be slower. Simple Physics.

And what does MOA have to do with the cyclic rate? Nothing. MOA is about adjusting for drop of the bullet. Don't you feel foolish now?

First of all they are called magazines not clips. dumbass
And like I said it depends on the AR and mini. Not all of the manufacturers use aluminum or steel each one is different. The cycle rate for both generally is the same.

You said in the earlier post the mini 14’s are better for hunting, not true, over-the-counter ARs are more accurate than minis generally, like I said.
You are the foolish one.

I am older than you are so I will call them Clips. It dates back to the old way of loading where the bullets are on clips and fed into the gun from the top. But it's generally accepted to replace the word clips with mags. And vice versa. You sure do sound foolish on this one. And the more you try to make others look stupid, the more apparent that it's YOU that isn't too bright.

If you purchase a 24 in barreled Mini-14 is is very accurate. If you purchase a 16 in AR it has trouble hitting the proverbial barn door at any range other than close. It's not the gun, it's the cartridge. If I were to buy a new Mini-14 it would have a 24 inch barrel. If you were to purchase a new AR chances are you will be getting the Carbine version of 16 in barrel. Now, use a little physics here. Same goes if one were to buy a Mini-14 with a 16 in barrel and buy an AR with a 24 in barrel. The AR would be more accurate when the tables are turned.

And the reason the MOA is better on the AR is the fact it's not shooting normal 223 ammo. When you buy ammo, you can buy the Nato .556 round that is hotter. But beware. Unless you spent the money to get the barrel to shoot the Nato 556, you are going to wear out your barrel very, very quickly.

Learn to be nice.

Wrong again, the combination of twist and grain has a lot more to do with accuracy than barrel length will.
Some rounds hate more bore time, Every rifle has their own personality some barrels hate some rounds. 1/7, 1/9 or whatever will work or it will not depending on the weight of the bullet, Length of the barrel has nothing to do with it.
It depends on how although round is loaded, what kind of powder, how much powder, what type of bullet there are dozens of factors.
If The barrel says 556 on it it can shoot both .223 – 5.56 because of clearances not the “power”. If your barrel says .223 on it it’s best not to shoot 5.56 because of clearances again.
So basically if you want to build an accurate 600+ yards shooter with a 16 inch barrel you can do it just fine, barrel length has nothing to do with it.

Barrel length has nothing to do with it? What are you smoking over there. Are you aware that your Grass consumption prevents you from legally owning fire arms?

 

[asaratis]

Shit for brains, The cycling rate can vary between both ARs and minis, depending on the manufacturer, Bolt and carrier weights, buffer springs, gas system, etc. THEY ARE BASICALLY THE SAME...
Over the counter ARs generally shot 1” inch MOA, where as over the counter minis shot around 2” inch MOA.
You don’t have a clue of what you’re talking about…

Theory has it that the Semi Auto is capable of 180 rounds a minute. But reality says it can't be done. But you can get off 3 shots a second for 10 seconds before you have to change your 30 round clip. And the process starts all over again. This is for the AR-15 and it's variants.

The AR-15 uses the direct impingement gas operating system. It's cheap, fast and easy to manufacture. The Mini-14 uses the conventional gas piston operating system like it's big brother, the M-14. The AR uses quite a few Aluminum parts while the Mini-14 uses all steel. Steel is heavier, ergo, the cyclic rate will be slower. Simple Physics.

And what does MOA have to do with the cyclic rate? Nothing. MOA is about adjusting for drop of the bullet. Don't you feel foolish now?

First of all they are called magazines not clips. dumbass
And like I said it depends on the AR and mini. Not all of the manufacturers use aluminum or steel each one is different. The cycle rate for both generally is the same.

You said in the earlier post the mini 14’s are better for hunting, not true, over-the-counter ARs are more accurate than minis generally, like I said.
You are the foolish one.

I am older than you are so I will call them Clips. It dates back to the old way of loading where the bullets are on clips and fed into the gun from the top. But it's generally accepted to replace the word clips with mags. And vice versa. You sure do sound foolish on this one. And the more you try to make others look stupid, the more apparent that it's YOU that isn't too bright.

If you purchase a 24 in barreled Mini-14 is is very accurate. If you purchase a 16 in AR it has trouble hitting the proverbial barn door at any range other than close. It's not the gun, it's the cartridge. If I were to buy a new Mini-14 it would have a 24 inch barrel. If you were to purchase a new AR chances are you will be getting the Carbine version of 16 in barrel. Now, use a little physics here. Same goes if one were to buy a Mini-14 with a 16 in barrel and buy an AR with a 24 in barrel. The AR would be more accurate when the tables are turned.

And the reason the MOA is better on the AR is the fact it's not shooting normal 223 ammo. When you buy ammo, you can buy the Nato .556 round that is hotter. But beware. Unless you spent the money to get the barrel to shoot the Nato 556, you are going to wear out your barrel very, very quickly.

Learn to be nice.

Wrong again, the combination of twist and grain has a lot more to do with accuracy than barrel length will.
Some rounds hate more bore time, Every rifle has their own personality some barrels hate some rounds. 1/7, 1/9 or whatever will work or it will not depending on the weight of the bullet, Length of the barrel has nothing to do with it.
It depends on how although round is loaded, what kind of powder, how much powder, what type of bullet there are dozens of factors.
If The barrel says 556 on it it can shoot both .223 – 5.56 because of clearances not the “power”. If your barrel says .223 on it it’s best not to shoot 5.56 because of clearances again.
So basically if you want to build an accurate 600+ yards shooter with a 16 inch barrel you can do it just fine, barrel length has nothing to do with it.

Barrel length has nothing to do with it? What are you smoking over there. Are you aware that your Grass consumption prevents you from legally owning fire arms?

The Truth About Barrel Length, Muzzle Velocity and Accuracy - The Truth About Guns
Conclusions:

This test obliterated what was previously thought to be fact. Not only was it determined that short barreled rifles are easily as accurate a those with long barrels, but we also discovered what we see as a key to viewing accuracy in a practical sense. In an age of misinformation, hard fact can be hard to come by. The internet is full of armchair know-it-alls and trolls a plenty, but for the most part, these can be ignored. Mental preconceptions of the researched concepts are still deeply entrenched in a more or less Napoleonic era of the theory of arms. Most of what is commonly argued about small arms is false and based on opinion. A quick look online reveals hundreds of arguments on topics like 9mm vs. 40 S&W vs. 45ACP or AR-15 vs. AK-47, none of which are based on fact or on the need of the individual in their realistic circumstances.

If anything is to be learned from bullet selection, it is that match quality bullets have a distinct edge in accuracy over military and hunting bullets. The match bullets tested produced significantly greater accuracy than their military or hunting-type counterparts.

This study is not aimed at the promotion of using any particular barrel length, brand of bullet or load. The reader must look at their own situation and determine what the most valuable features are in a rifle.

 

[Rustic]

Theory has it that the Semi Auto is capable of 180 rounds a minute. But reality says it can't be done. But you can get off 3 shots a second for 10 seconds before you have to change your 30 round clip. And the process starts all over again. This is for the AR-15 and it's variants.

The AR-15 uses the direct impingement gas operating system. It's cheap, fast and easy to manufacture. The Mini-14 uses the conventional gas piston operating system like it's big brother, the M-14. The AR uses quite a few Aluminum parts while the Mini-14 uses all steel. Steel is heavier, ergo, the cyclic rate will be slower. Simple Physics.

And what does MOA have to do with the cyclic rate? Nothing. MOA is about adjusting for drop of the bullet. Don't you feel foolish now?

First of all they are called magazines not clips. dumbass
And like I said it depends on the AR and mini. Not all of the manufacturers use aluminum or steel each one is different. The cycle rate for both generally is the same.

You said in the earlier post the mini 14’s are better for hunting, not true, over-the-counter ARs are more accurate than minis generally, like I said.
You are the foolish one.

I am older than you are so I will call them Clips. It dates back to the old way of loading where the bullets are on clips and fed into the gun from the top. But it's generally accepted to replace the word clips with mags. And vice versa. You sure do sound foolish on this one. And the more you try to make others look stupid, the more apparent that it's YOU that isn't too bright.

If you purchase a 24 in barreled Mini-14 is is very accurate. If you purchase a 16 in AR it has trouble hitting the proverbial barn door at any range other than close. It's not the gun, it's the cartridge. If I were to buy a new Mini-14 it would have a 24 inch barrel. If you were to purchase a new AR chances are you will be getting the Carbine version of 16 in barrel. Now, use a little physics here. Same goes if one were to buy a Mini-14 with a 16 in barrel and buy an AR with a 24 in barrel. The AR would be more accurate when the tables are turned.

And the reason the MOA is better on the AR is the fact it's not shooting normal 223 ammo. When you buy ammo, you can buy the Nato .556 round that is hotter. But beware. Unless you spent the money to get the barrel to shoot the Nato 556, you are going to wear out your barrel very, very quickly.

Learn to be nice.

Wrong again, the combination of twist and grain has a lot more to do with accuracy than barrel length will.
Some rounds hate more bore time, Every rifle has their own personality some barrels hate some rounds. 1/7, 1/9 or whatever will work or it will not depending on the weight of the bullet, Length of the barrel has nothing to do with it.
It depends on how although round is loaded, what kind of powder, how much powder, what type of bullet there are dozens of factors.
If The barrel says 556 on it it can shoot both .223 – 5.56 because of clearances not the “power”. If your barrel says .223 on it it’s best not to shoot 5.56 because of clearances again.
So basically if you want to build an accurate 600+ yards shooter with a 16 inch barrel you can do it just fine, barrel length has nothing to do with it.

Barrel length has nothing to do with it? What are you smoking over there. Are you aware that your Grass consumption prevents you from legally owning fire arms?

The Truth About Barrel Length, Muzzle Velocity and Accuracy - The Truth About Guns
Conclusions:

This test obliterated what was previously thought to be fact. Not only was it determined that short barreled rifles are easily as accurate a those with long barrels, but we also discovered what we see as a key to viewing accuracy in a practical sense. In an age of misinformation, hard fact can be hard to come by. The internet is full of armchair know-it-alls and trolls a plenty, but for the most part, these can be ignored. Mental preconceptions of the researched concepts are still deeply entrenched in a more or less Napoleonic era of the theory of arms. Most of what is commonly argued about small arms is false and based on opinion. A quick look online reveals hundreds of arguments on topics like 9mm vs. 40 S&W vs. 45ACP or AR-15 vs. AK-47, none of which are based on fact or on the need of the individual in their realistic circumstances.

If anything is to be learned from bullet selection, it is that match quality bullets have a distinct edge in accuracy over military and hunting bullets. The match bullets tested produced significantly greater accuracy than their military or hunting-type counterparts.

This study is not aimed at the promotion of using any particular barrel length, brand of bullet or load. The reader must look at their own situation and determine what the most valuable features are in a rifle.

Yep, each rifle likes a certain ammo. And barrel length has nothing to do with it... in many cases harmonics can hurt the accuracy of a longer barrel.
Many sharpshooters and snipers don’t like a longer barrel
Ballistics: Understanding Barrel Harmonics and Accuracy | Gun Digest

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Theory has it that the Semi Auto is capable of 180 rounds a minute. But reality says it can't be done. But you can get off 3 shots a second for 10 seconds before you have to change your 30 round clip. And the process starts all over again. This is for the AR-15 and it's variants.

The AR-15 uses the direct impingement gas operating system. It's cheap, fast and easy to manufacture. The Mini-14 uses the conventional gas piston operating system like it's big brother, the M-14. The AR uses quite a few Aluminum parts while the Mini-14 uses all steel. Steel is heavier, ergo, the cyclic rate will be slower. Simple Physics.

And what does MOA have to do with the cyclic rate? Nothing. MOA is about adjusting for drop of the bullet. Don't you feel foolish now?

First of all they are called magazines not clips. dumbass
And like I said it depends on the AR and mini. Not all of the manufacturers use aluminum or steel each one is different. The cycle rate for both generally is the same.

You said in the earlier post the mini 14’s are better for hunting, not true, over-the-counter ARs are more accurate than minis generally, like I said.
You are the foolish one.

I am older than you are so I will call them Clips. It dates back to the old way of loading where the bullets are on clips and fed into the gun from the top. But it's generally accepted to replace the word clips with mags. And vice versa. You sure do sound foolish on this one. And the more you try to make others look stupid, the more apparent that it's YOU that isn't too bright.

If you purchase a 24 in barreled Mini-14 is is very accurate. If you purchase a 16 in AR it has trouble hitting the proverbial barn door at any range other than close. It's not the gun, it's the cartridge. If I were to buy a new Mini-14 it would have a 24 inch barrel. If you were to purchase a new AR chances are you will be getting the Carbine version of 16 in barrel. Now, use a little physics here. Same goes if one were to buy a Mini-14 with a 16 in barrel and buy an AR with a 24 in barrel. The AR would be more accurate when the tables are turned.

And the reason the MOA is better on the AR is the fact it's not shooting normal 223 ammo. When you buy ammo, you can buy the Nato .556 round that is hotter. But beware. Unless you spent the money to get the barrel to shoot the Nato 556, you are going to wear out your barrel very, very quickly.

Learn to be nice.

Is that the best you got? What you are saying is that you support the murdering of our School Children, Movie Goers, People worshiping in Churches, large gatherings of innocent people. Yes, accept your sin. But don't expect the rest of us to do the same.

ALL of the largest Mass Murders in the last 25 years have all been done by an AR-15 or one of it's copies. And most were purchased legally. That same reason was for handling of the Thompson in 1934. So accept your responsability of murdering our Children.

You do realize people kill people not firearms?
More people die from falling out of bed and smoking in bed, than people killed by someone using an AR15 sporting rifle.
Handguns are used for most violent crime in this country by a long shot. Very few deaths are caused by people using ARs, And there are millions of them in this country that’s a very, very low ratio. Firearms cannot control people.
Firearm violence by ARs is a non-issue, We have much bigger fish to fry. So far this year almost 33,000 people have died from medical errors.
Just take your pick…
2018 Real Time Death Statistics in America
Terrorists much prefer bombs/vehicles, For terrorism and they have access to anything they want. So don’t give me that fucking shit that it’s some sporting rifle that causes mass murders you fucking dolt...
So go ahead and live your delusion you sinless snowflake.... lol

You used the term "Errors". There is no error in using an AR for slaughtering school children. You are using the "Hey, Look Over There" routine. The AR is used in every mass shooting in the last 25 years. It's the weapon of choice because it is the most available. Anyone can buy it in less than 30 minutes from start to finish along with hundreds of rounds, multiple clips (mags to you) and head for the nearest school and kill lots of children. Even the AK isn't as efficient. But the AK isn't sold in every gun store in America so the culture isn't attached to the AK. Your love of the AR is noted. What you keep doing is making the most efficient weapon for mass shootings so easy to get. I am not proposing outlawing it. I do propose making a bit more difficult to obtain. Ending the cult that surrounds it.

What is sad is, a terrorist on a no fly list can purchase the weapon just by going into a gun store, show his legal ID, plunk down his cash, pass a simple gun test and walk out in less than 30 minutes with the most efficient mass murder weapon that you can obtain. The Mentally unstable can also buy it the same way. I hold that anyone that does mass murder like that is already unstable. But proving it prior is next to impossible. My Crystal Ball is broken. Since we can't predict it, we take away the one thing that is in each and every one of the situation and that is the weapon of choice. It's the only constant that we have control of.

Yah, I know, they will choose a different weapon. A Knife is too slow, a handgun isn't nearly as efficient. A Rock can only kill one at a time. A Baseball Bat, you have to get close and can only hit one person at a time. A Shotgun only holds so many rounds. A Model 700BDL only holds so many rounds. None of these are nearly as efficient as the AR.

One person stated that we need to change the culture. Well, the first thing we need to do is to change your culture. And you must accept that your culture is as much to blame as the person doing the mass killings. You make it too easy for them to auquire the tools to do the job. And that makes you part of the problem. How does it feel to know you are contributing to the deaths of children in the United States. Not something I would want to do. Congratulations, you should take a bow and blow your own brains out with your AR.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Theory has it that the Semi Auto is capable of 180 rounds a minute. But reality says it can't be done. But you can get off 3 shots a second for 10 seconds before you have to change your 30 round clip. And the process starts all over again. This is for the AR-15 and it's variants.

The AR-15 uses the direct impingement gas operating system. It's cheap, fast and easy to manufacture. The Mini-14 uses the conventional gas piston operating system like it's big brother, the M-14. The AR uses quite a few Aluminum parts while the Mini-14 uses all steel. Steel is heavier, ergo, the cyclic rate will be slower. Simple Physics.

And what does MOA have to do with the cyclic rate? Nothing. MOA is about adjusting for drop of the bullet. Don't you feel foolish now?

First of all they are called magazines not clips. dumbass
And like I said it depends on the AR and mini. Not all of the manufacturers use aluminum or steel each one is different. The cycle rate for both generally is the same.

You said in the earlier post the mini 14’s are better for hunting, not true, over-the-counter ARs are more accurate than minis generally, like I said.
You are the foolish one.

I am older than you are so I will call them Clips. It dates back to the old way of loading where the bullets are on clips and fed into the gun from the top. But it's generally accepted to replace the word clips with mags. And vice versa. You sure do sound foolish on this one. And the more you try to make others look stupid, the more apparent that it's YOU that isn't too bright.

If you purchase a 24 in barreled Mini-14 is is very accurate. If you purchase a 16 in AR it has trouble hitting the proverbial barn door at any range other than close. It's not the gun, it's the cartridge. If I were to buy a new Mini-14 it would have a 24 inch barrel. If you were to purchase a new AR chances are you will be getting the Carbine version of 16 in barrel. Now, use a little physics here. Same goes if one were to buy a Mini-14 with a 16 in barrel and buy an AR with a 24 in barrel. The AR would be more accurate when the tables are turned.

And the reason the MOA is better on the AR is the fact it's not shooting normal 223 ammo. When you buy ammo, you can buy the Nato .556 round that is hotter. But beware. Unless you spent the money to get the barrel to shoot the Nato 556, you are going to wear out your barrel very, very quickly.

Learn to be nice.

Wrong again, the combination of twist and grain has a lot more to do with accuracy than barrel length will.
Some rounds hate more bore time, Every rifle has their own personality some barrels hate some rounds. 1/7, 1/9 or whatever will work or it will not depending on the weight of the bullet, Length of the barrel has nothing to do with it.
It depends on how although round is loaded, what kind of powder, how much powder, what type of bullet there are dozens of factors.
If The barrel says 556 on it it can shoot both .223 – 5.56 because of clearances not the “power”. If your barrel says .223 on it it’s best not to shoot 5.56 because of clearances again.
So basically if you want to build an accurate 600+ yards shooter with a 16 inch barrel you can do it just fine, barrel length has nothing to do with it.

Barrel length has nothing to do with it? What are you smoking over there. Are you aware that your Grass consumption prevents you from legally owning fire arms?

Barrel length is not the only determiner of accuracy he never has been never will be

It's one of the factors. Especially if you are not using a scope of any kind. The longer the barrel the further the front site is from the rear sight making it more accurate. Plus, the longer barrel will have more room for a better rifling pattern. Plus, the longer barrel will allow you to use more of the powder. Unspent powder is just wasted out the end of the barrel. No barrel can be made to use all the powder but the longer the barrel, the faster the projectile because more powder is utilized to gain that extra speed. And the 223/556 is a very high speed cartridge and the faster it moves the better considering that there isn't much of a projectile to begin with.

Physics agrees that a 16 in barrel will not have the range nor the accuracy of the 24 in barrel. Of course, within 50 feet it doesn't matter. But using it to varmint hunt, you won't be making any shots within 50 feet. But if you are mass murdering children in a school, that 16 in barrel is the one to use since it's easier to field.