The republicans blew their biggest chance.

[Remodeling Maidiac]

2005 is before the current recession.

Apology accepted, Captain Needa.

The economy didn't crash in 05 numbnuts.

Blow job accepted faggot

Why are conservatives so obsessed with gay male sex?

Some latent tendencies perhaps?

The Republicans have had control of Congress and the Presidency just two times in American history.

Once before the GREAT DEPRESSION and again before the CURRENT RECESSION.

And if you could only gain control of the thinking part of your brain we'd all be better off.

 

[Chris]

Not only that but democrat minded policies of big spending controlled the houses for decades. And that is what led us down the path were on.

Actually it was the Reagan Bush tax cuts.....

 

[BreezeWood]

Democrats controlled both houses for years prior to the crash. Thanks guys

The Administrations control 2/3 of the Congress through their Constitutional power of the legislative Veto.

The Democrats were unable to override the threatened Bush vetoes to their legislative agenda.

 

[Paladin]

The Obama budget deficits originated during the Bush presidency...

1. Tax cuts 2001-2002 (4 trillion over 10 years)
2. Prescription drug benefits (1 trillion over 10 years)
3. Economic meltdown of 2008 ( 3 trillion and rising)
4. Wars in Iraq and Afghanistan (2 trillion and winding down)

1. Tax cuts that enabled a speedy recovery from the devastation following 9/11, an unemployment rate nearing 4%, and a significant movement of "middle class" Americans moving to the "Upper Class" ( I despise the language, but the statistical demarcations labeled as such).

2. I'll give you that one. Once, again Statist giveaways to avoid political damage from "grandma has to choose between her going without her meds or eating cat food" rot.

3. An economic meltdown precipitated by banking and housing market policies of the Clinton administration.

4. Again, I have to concede that. Ridiculous wars not focused on victory, but on public relations, resulting in unnecessary loss of American life and resources without accomplishing anything in the real of positive opinion abroad.

You seem to assume that there are real cuts coming. There is still $1.3 trillion in deficit spending in Obama's "budget". Combine that with increased uncertainty and cost from tax cuts and potential regulation from a Obama administration willing to circumvent Congress, not to mention the astounding devaluation of the currency from debt monetization, and we have a serious problem on our hands. Only the ignorant or willfully blind are unaware of it.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

They had control of everything for about what 6 years there during the Bush admin.
And what did they accomplish?
2 wars,
nearly doubled debt,
$4 gas
And a Recession

Why should anyone believe the promises they are still making that they made before the 2000 election?
What a waste of an opportunity to change things to suit them.

How long since the last time they had controlled congress and the presidency?

Even if one accepts the premise that the GOP isn’t responsible for the December 2007 recession and has sworn off of starting illegal wars, said recession and subsequent economic slowdown demonstrate the failure of conservative fiscal policy to provide stability and growth. Blind adherence to rightist fiscal dogma is madness to say the least, as a pragmatic approach is always best.

The bane of social conservatism, the right’s opposition to the rule of law concerning privacy rights and equal access to the law, and a dangerous foreign policy philosophy predicated on ‘nation building’ all render most republican candidates unqualified to hold office.

 

[rdean]

They had control of everything for about what 6 years there during the Bush admin.
And what did they accomplish?
2 wars,
nearly doubled debt,
$4 gas
And a Recession

Why should anyone believe the promises they are still making that they made before the 2000 election?
What a waste of an opportunity to change things to suit them.

How long since the last time they had controlled congress and the presidency?

They ran on "Jobs Jobs Jobs" during the last election and people still believed what they had to say. Once elected, they said, "Government can't make jobs".

 

[Greenbeard]

Why should anyone believe the promises they are still making that they made before the 2000 election?
What a waste of an opportunity to change things to suit them.

Because they've got a whole new cast of characters who weren't there to push the Bush-era deficit-financed tax cuts, prescription drug benefits, wars of aggression, financial bailouts, or federalizations of education policy.

Paul Ryan, their new Budget chairman. No, wait--he voted for all of those things. John Boehner, the new Speaker. Whoops, no. He voted for all of that, too. Eric Cantor, the Majority Leader. Hmm, he supported all of that, too. Tom Price, the current head of the policy development arm of the House Republicans. Aha! He was for most of that stuff but voted against the unpaid for Medicare drug benefit.

Finally, a member of the current Republican House leadership who voted against one--just one--of the Bush White House's budget busters. Go team!

But really, usc, with the same people in charge, why wouldn't they change?

 

[rdean]

The Obama budget deficits originated during the Bush presidency...

1. Tax cuts 2001-2002 (4 trillion over 10 years)
2. Prescription drug benefits (1 trillion over 10 years)
3. Economic meltdown of 2008 ( 3 trillion and rising)
4. Wars in Iraq and Afghanistan (2 trillion and winding down)

1. Tax cuts that enabled a speedy recovery from the devastation following 9/11, an unemployment rate nearing 4%, and a significant movement of "middle class" Americans moving to the "Upper Class" ( I despise the language, but the statistical demarcations labeled as such).

2. I'll give you that one. Once, again Statist giveaways to avoid political damage from "grandma has to choose between her going without her meds or eating cat food" rot.

3. An economic meltdown precipitated by banking and housing market policies of the Clinton administration.

4. Again, I have to concede that. Ridiculous wars not focused on victory, but on public relations, resulting in unnecessary loss of American life and resources without accomplishing anything in the real of positive opinion abroad.

You seem to assume that there are real cuts coming. There is still $1.3 trillion in deficit spending in Obama's "budget". Combine that with increased uncertainty and cost from tax cuts and potential regulation from a Obama administration willing to circumvent Congress, not to mention the astounding devaluation of the currency from debt monetization, and we have a serious problem on our hands. Only the ignorant or willfully blind are unaware of it.

The Bush tax cuts had to be passed through reconciliation. Democrats understand that cutting taxes will cause a small bump to the economy. But the economy only grows if you "make stuff". Tax cuts don't "make stuff". They merely provide a small amount of cash to spend for a very short time. "Cut taxes" isn't a "policy", it's a "scam". Eventually, there are no more taxes to cut, then what? What comes next? Three words Republicans dread being asked.

 

[hortysir]

They had control of everything for about what 6 years there during the Bush admin.
And what did they accomplish?
2 wars,
nearly doubled debt,
$4 gas
And a Recession

Why should anyone believe the promises they are still making that they made before the 2000 election?
What a waste of an opportunity to change things to suit them.

How long since the last time they had controlled congress and the presidency?

No need to live in the past when Obama and the dems have done all of what you just described x 2.

Stop sniveling.

He IS talking about the Obama Admin.
Just still blaming Booooosh......

 

[Greenbeard]

They ran on "Jobs Jobs Jobs" during the last election and people still believed what they had to say. Once elected, they said, "Government can't make jobs".

You have to admit, that's a bit more catchy than "abortion, abortion, abortion, contraception, end Medicare," even if it's a bit less revealing of their actual priorities.

 

[Avorysuds]

They had control of everything for about what 6 years there during the Bush admin.
And what did they accomplish?
2 wars,
nearly doubled debt,
$4 gas
And a Recession

Why should anyone believe the promises they are still making that they made before the 2000 election?
What a waste of an opportunity to change things to suit them.

How long since the last time they had controlled congress and the presidency?

No need to live in the past when Obama and the dems have done all of what you just described x 2.

Stop sniveling.

Wait wait... So you're going to attack Obama's past but not Republicans? Or is 3-11 years ago to long to look back at Republicans?

Gramps sometimes you say smart thing, most the time you say flat out stupid shit. There is a reason when you hire someone you look at their resume, it's a history of their work and what they can do as well as what they can't do.

 

[Oddball]

Thanks for proving my point.

He proved you a complete idiot but you're too stupid to figure it out.

No surprise

2005 is before the current recession.

Apology accepted, Captain Needa.

So is 1967.

Your blatant dishonesty used to be astonishing...Now it's just boring.

 

[hortysir]

Since we're reminiscing.......

Monica blew hers too

 

[Paladin]

The Obama budget deficits originated during the Bush presidency...

1. Tax cuts 2001-2002 (4 trillion over 10 years)
2. Prescription drug benefits (1 trillion over 10 years)
3. Economic meltdown of 2008 ( 3 trillion and rising)
4. Wars in Iraq and Afghanistan (2 trillion and winding down)

1. Tax cuts that enabled a speedy recovery from the devastation following 9/11, an unemployment rate nearing 4%, and a significant movement of "middle class" Americans moving to the "Upper Class" ( I despise the language, but the statistical demarcations labeled as such).

2. I'll give you that one. Once, again Statist giveaways to avoid political damage from "grandma has to choose between her going without her meds or eating cat food" rot.

3. An economic meltdown precipitated by banking and housing market policies of the Clinton administration.

4. Again, I have to concede that. Ridiculous wars not focused on victory, but on public relations, resulting in unnecessary loss of American life and resources without accomplishing anything in the real of positive opinion abroad.

You seem to assume that there are real cuts coming. There is still $1.3 trillion in deficit spending in Obama's "budget". Combine that with increased uncertainty and cost from tax cuts and potential regulation from a Obama administration willing to circumvent Congress, not to mention the astounding devaluation of the currency from debt monetization, and we have a serious problem on our hands. Only the ignorant or willfully blind are unaware of it.

The Bush tax cuts had to be passed through reconciliation. Democrats understand that cutting taxes will cause a small bump to the economy. But the economy only grows if you "make stuff". Tax cuts don't "make stuff". They merely provide a small amount of cash to spend for a very short time. "Cut taxes" isn't a "policy", it's a "scam". Eventually, there are no more taxes to cut, then what? What comes next? Three words Republicans dread being asked.

Tax cuts don't "make stuff". PEOPLE make stuff. They use their resources to be productive or to purchase the produce of others, allowing them to make more stuff. The government doesn't "make stuff". It takes some, wastes a lot, and exchanges something to someone who hasn't earned in return for votes. Cutting taxes allows people to keep more of THEIR money to use as they choose, generally being much more efficient and productive than any centralized authority possibly can be. Cutting spending decreases waste and eliminates money from going where it doesn't really have the consent of or benefit to those that provide it.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

They had control of everything for about what 6 years there during the Bush admin.
And what did they accomplish?
2 wars,
nearly doubled debt,
$4 gas
And a Recession

Why should anyone believe the promises they are still making that they made before the 2000 election?
What a waste of an opportunity to change things to suit them.

How long since the last time they had controlled congress and the presidency?

No need to live in the past when Obama and the dems have done all of what you just described x 2.

Stop sniveling.

Wait wait... So you're going to attack Obama's past but not Republicans? Or is 3-11 years ago to long to look back at Republicans?

Gramps sometimes you say smart thing, most the time you say flat out stupid shit. There is a reason when you hire someone you look at their resume, it's a history of their work and what they can do as well as what they can't do.

I'm on record here PLENTY OF TIMES BLAMING BUSH for insane spending. Doesn't change anything in my posts. Bush simply induldged himself in democratic spending policies. He was as utterly stupid as they STILL ARE.

 

[uscitizen]

They had control of everything for about what 6 years there during the Bush admin.
And what did they accomplish?
2 wars,
nearly doubled debt,
$4 gas
And a Recession

Why should anyone believe the promises they are still making that they made before the 2000 election?
What a waste of an opportunity to change things to suit them.

How long since the last time they had controlled congress and the presidency?

No need to live in the past when Obama and the dems have done all of what you just described x 2.

Stop sniveling.

But, but they are worse than we are!

LMAO

 

[uscitizen]

The Republicans have had control of Congress and the Presidency just two times in American history.

Once before the GREAT DEPRESSION and again before the CURRENT RECESSION.

Hmmm....

 

[JoeB131]

They had control of everything for about what 6 years there during the Bush admin.
And what did they accomplish?
2 wars,
nearly doubled debt,
$4 gas
And a Recession

Why should anyone believe the promises they are still making that they made before the 2000 election?
What a waste of an opportunity to change things to suit them.

How long since the last time they had controlled congress and the presidency?

Hey, Obama had control of everything, and managed to blow it in two years. Ran up more debt in three years than Bush ran up in eight, and he thinks $4.00 a gallon gas is a good thing.

Now, it is true, that the GOP had a great chance this year to dump this guy, and they've blown it by nominating a Weird Mormon Robot.

 

[JoeB131]

The Republicans have had control of Congress and the Presidency just two times in American history.

Once before the GREAT DEPRESSION and again before the CURRENT RECESSION.

Hmmm....

Not true.

The GOP had control of Congress and the White House from 1861 all the way up until 1912, save for the two terms of Grover Cleveland, and few spotty times when Dems controlled the House.

They controlled it from 1921-1931.

They controlled it during the 1950's.

and they controlled it in the early oughts..

 

[uscitizen]

They had control of everything for about what 6 years there during the Bush admin.
And what did they accomplish?
2 wars,
nearly doubled debt,
$4 gas
And a Recession

Why should anyone believe the promises they are still making that they made before the 2000 election?
What a waste of an opportunity to change things to suit them.

How long since the last time they had controlled congress and the presidency?

Hey, Obama had control of everything, and managed to blow it in two years. Ran up more debt in three years than Bush ran up in eight, and he thinks $4.00 a gallon gas is a good thing.

Now, it is true, that the GOP had a great chance this year to dump this guy, and they've blown it by nominating a Weird Mormon Robot.

I do not like Obama either but in all fairness he inherited the worst recession in decades.
vs bush inheriting a nearly balanced budget.