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Not when you consider, teaching them individuality only has to come from Mom and Pops.Winner!This decision will effectively kill the girlscouts as an organization eventually. Rather than changing the organization to meet the needs of the girls they're trying to change the boys to meet the needs of the girls.The current situation with the Boy Scouts illustrates yet another way the Regressive Left is trying to "fundamentally change" the country, and it's certainly working.
The Regressives have determined that they must dilute and decrease masculinity, which is why we're seeing so many stories where they are actively working to meld the two genders together.
From the Boy Scouts to Target's "Gender Neutral Kid's Collection" to gender-neutral parenting (Should You Raise a Gender-neutral Baby?), this is certainly a train that won't be stopping until masculinity is marginalized in every possible corner of our society.
If you want to know what people are thinking, just pay attention to what they are saying and doing, So, as usual, I'll provide some supporting material, all written in favor of this movement:
How to Combat Toxic Masculinity: Don’t be Afraid to Engage
Bullying and Toxic Masculinity
We Need To 'Undefine' Masculinity
The Mean Progressive: Trumped-Up Masculinity
A Guy’s Guide to The Gender-Minimized 1st Date -
Feminism 101: What is Toxic Masculinity?
Why Masculinity Needs To Be Crushed
Should We End Masculinity - The Progressive View
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It really is sad that we're homodginizing our children and not teaching them individuality.
Show me on the doll where Mac touched you...Seems like theres a push and pull for everything. Microcosms in a Nation of 320million people do not imply some great epidemic.And?In other news, MMA's legality and Popularity has increased exponentially since the early 2000s, and so has the number of people in the united states training in hand to hand combat.
Not sure how that relates to this thread
When Mac loses the ability to raise his own boys how he sees fuckin fit, then I give him permission to whine like he does daily without rolling my eyes and going
Plus, if we are talking about the regressives attacking maculinity, lets look at an old.man who sits on the internet every day whining about whats trendy.
Good grief
The following was taken from Mac's first linked article about "toxic masculinity," describing the traits of "toxic masculinity":
- Loving sex, but not really liking women.
- Violence is the way “men” solve problems.
- Dominance over women.
- Believing that they are entitled to success due to their gender.
- Labeling men who don’t subscribe to this mindset as “Beta.”
Much of this has just been conflict invented in the minds of you-know-who.And by the way, notice how they're deploying their "isolation" tactic, trying to isolate the Boy Scouts story only instead of addressing the big picture, which I did.
They do this to minimize the point. The Boy Scout story is just one of many, MANY examples of the point. I even brought up others in the OP.
These people just have to lie to cover for what they're doing.
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I don't even know what to say. I mean I AGREE with you,
but what more is there TO say?
The harm is trying to marginalize normal healthy behavior is obvious, and those supporting it won't even defend it, they move to attack, deflect, distract.
From your first link:
"To clarify, “masculinity” in this context refers not to men’s innate traits, but to the cultural construction of manhood. When we talk about the harmful effects of toxic masculinity, we are not criticizing men, but are calling out the unfair standards imposed upon them."
They claim they are not criticizing men.
Then.
"This form of masculinity has nothing to do with being a man, and everything to do with being an emotionless robot with alarming social opinions including:
- Loving sex, but not really liking women.
- Violence is the way “men” solve problems.
- Dominance over women.
- Believing that they are entitled to success due to their gender.
- Labeling men who don’t subscribe to this mindset as “Beta.”"
What a load of crap.
In my adult life, I have never met a man who thinks that violence is the way to solve problems.
Nor thought that men were dominate over women.
not believed that they were entitled to success due to their gender,
nor labeled any men they disagreed with as "Beta" (other than some lib assholes on this site)
They haven't exactly made a secret of their hatred of masculinity, and now they're manifesting it culturally.
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You bet. Treating people with respect, however, has nothing to do with gender or race or class or religion. If a man behaves in the way you describe, he's clearly in the wrong.The following was taken from Mac's first linked article about "toxic masculinity," describing the traits of "toxic masculinity":
I would have to ask whether Mac supports this sort of behavior. Is his article a complaint that men aren't being allowed to act this way? Just what exactly is he complaining that he is being told to do or to not do? Or that someone is doing to him? We live in a society with upwards of 320 million people in it, and we all have the right to expect decent and respectful conduct from everyone.
- Loving sex, but not really liking women.
- Violence is the way “men” solve problems.
- Dominance over women.
- Believing that they are entitled to success due to their gender.
- Labeling men who don’t subscribe to this mindset as “Beta.”
They just REFUSE to take these issues head on.
Understandable. It gets tougher when I provide proof.
Another great example of the "isolation" tactic I describe in post 24.Much of this has just been conflict invented in the minds of you-know-who.And by the way, notice how they're deploying their "isolation" tactic, trying to isolate the Boy Scouts story only instead of addressing the big picture, which I did.
They do this to minimize the point. The Boy Scout story is just one of many, MANY examples of the point. I even brought up others in the OP.
These people just have to lie to cover for what they're doing.
.
I don't even know what to say. I mean I AGREE with you,
but what more is there TO say?
The harm is trying to marginalize normal healthy behavior is obvious, and those supporting it won't even defend it, they move to attack, deflect, distract.
From your first link:
"To clarify, “masculinity” in this context refers not to men’s innate traits, but to the cultural construction of manhood. When we talk about the harmful effects of toxic masculinity, we are not criticizing men, but are calling out the unfair standards imposed upon them."
They claim they are not criticizing men.
Then.
"This form of masculinity has nothing to do with being a man, and everything to do with being an emotionless robot with alarming social opinions including:
- Loving sex, but not really liking women.
- Violence is the way “men” solve problems.
- Dominance over women.
- Believing that they are entitled to success due to their gender.
- Labeling men who don’t subscribe to this mindset as “Beta.”"
What a load of crap.
In my adult life, I have never met a man who thinks that violence is the way to solve problems.
Nor thought that men were dominate over women.
not believed that they were entitled to success due to their gender,
nor labeled any men they disagreed with as "Beta" (other than some lib assholes on this site)
They haven't exactly made a secret of their hatred of masculinity, and now they're manifesting it culturally.
.
You really should explain how a girl or two in a scout troop is emasculating to the boys. Female leaders have been in scouting for a long while. I'm approaching 50 and was in scouting through high school. There were women involved on many levels without complaint. If I had a daughter that was into it, I would support her 100% and be grateful that I could share something I found very fulfilling with her.
This is just coming off as just another grouchy, old guy, "hell in a handbasket" thread.
Now, a question for you: Speaking of "respectful conduct", look at the responses in this thread that avoid the point and go after me personally instead. How would you characterize them?
Yeah, I've been persona non grata in that tent since I started skewering their religion.Yup, it looks like the lefties are pushing you out of the BIG Tent....They just REFUSE to take these issues head on. Understandable. It gets tougher when I provide proof.
Yeah, I've been persona non grata in that tent since I started skewering their religion.Yup, it looks like the lefties are pushing you out of the BIG Tent....They just REFUSE to take these issues head on. Understandable. It gets tougher when I provide proof.
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Yeah, I've been persona non grata in that tent since I started skewering their religion.
Grouchy old busy body is exactly what it is.Much of this has just been conflict invented in the minds of you-know-who.And by the way, notice how they're deploying their "isolation" tactic, trying to isolate the Boy Scouts story only instead of addressing the big picture, which I did.
They do this to minimize the point. The Boy Scout story is just one of many, MANY examples of the point. I even brought up others in the OP.
These people just have to lie to cover for what they're doing.
.
I don't even know what to say. I mean I AGREE with you,
but what more is there TO say?
The harm is trying to marginalize normal healthy behavior is obvious, and those supporting it won't even defend it, they move to attack, deflect, distract.
From your first link:
"To clarify, “masculinity” in this context refers not to men’s innate traits, but to the cultural construction of manhood. When we talk about the harmful effects of toxic masculinity, we are not criticizing men, but are calling out the unfair standards imposed upon them."
They claim they are not criticizing men.
Then.
"This form of masculinity has nothing to do with being a man, and everything to do with being an emotionless robot with alarming social opinions including:
- Loving sex, but not really liking women.
- Violence is the way “men” solve problems.
- Dominance over women.
- Believing that they are entitled to success due to their gender.
- Labeling men who don’t subscribe to this mindset as “Beta.”"
What a load of crap.
In my adult life, I have never met a man who thinks that violence is the way to solve problems.
Nor thought that men were dominate over women.
not believed that they were entitled to success due to their gender,
nor labeled any men they disagreed with as "Beta" (other than some lib assholes on this site)
They haven't exactly made a secret of their hatred of masculinity, and now they're manifesting it culturally.
.
You really should explain how a girl or two in a scout troop is emasculating to the boys. Female leaders have been in scouting for a long while. I'm approaching 50 and was in scouting through high school. There were women involved on many levels without complaint. If I had a daughter that was into it, I would support her 100% and be grateful that I could share something I found very fulfilling with her.
This is just coming off as just another grouchy, old guy, "hell in a handbasket" thread.
Another great example of the "isolation" tactic I describe in post 24.Much of this has just been conflict invented in the minds of you-know-who.And by the way, notice how they're deploying their "isolation" tactic, trying to isolate the Boy Scouts story only instead of addressing the big picture, which I did.
They do this to minimize the point. The Boy Scout story is just one of many, MANY examples of the point. I even brought up others in the OP.
These people just have to lie to cover for what they're doing.
.
I don't even know what to say. I mean I AGREE with you,
but what more is there TO say?
The harm is trying to marginalize normal healthy behavior is obvious, and those supporting it won't even defend it, they move to attack, deflect, distract.
From your first link:
"To clarify, “masculinity” in this context refers not to men’s innate traits, but to the cultural construction of manhood. When we talk about the harmful effects of toxic masculinity, we are not criticizing men, but are calling out the unfair standards imposed upon them."
They claim they are not criticizing men.
Then.
"This form of masculinity has nothing to do with being a man, and everything to do with being an emotionless robot with alarming social opinions including:
- Loving sex, but not really liking women.
- Violence is the way “men” solve problems.
- Dominance over women.
- Believing that they are entitled to success due to their gender.
- Labeling men who don’t subscribe to this mindset as “Beta.”"
What a load of crap.
In my adult life, I have never met a man who thinks that violence is the way to solve problems.
Nor thought that men were dominate over women.
not believed that they were entitled to success due to their gender,
nor labeled any men they disagreed with as "Beta" (other than some lib assholes on this site)
They haven't exactly made a secret of their hatred of masculinity, and now they're manifesting it culturally.
.
You really should explain how a girl or two in a scout troop is emasculating to the boys. Female leaders have been in scouting for a long while. I'm approaching 50 and was in scouting through high school. There were women involved on many levels without complaint. If I had a daughter that was into it, I would support her 100% and be grateful that I could share something I found very fulfilling with her.
This is just coming off as just another grouchy, old guy, "hell in a handbasket" thread.
And you make it about me, as I describe in post 5.
Excellent post. Thanks.
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It really is amazing to me. First, I never have to name names. I just make an observation and they jump right in to illustrate it for me. They're perfectly willing to self-identify. And even after I point out their behaviors, they just keep doing them - like trying to make everything about me, their "isolation" tactic, on and on. It's like they're robots who only know how to attack and behave in a certain way.Yeah, I've been persona non grata in that tent since I started skewering their religion.Yup, it looks like the lefties are pushing you out of the BIG Tent....They just REFUSE to take these issues head on. Understandable. It gets tougher when I provide proof.
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.. and look at you .. all happy and stuff...
"This is just coming off as just another grouchy, old guy, "hell in a handbasket" thread."I didn't make it about you. I asked you to explain your thinking. I used my personal experience to establish my thinking. It's called a conversation.
It is about you.It really is amazing to me. First, I never have to name names. I just make an observation and they jump right in to illustrate it for me. They're perfectly willing to self-identify. And even after I point out their behaviors, they just keep doing them - like trying to make everything about me, their "isolation" tactic, on and on. It's like they're robots who only know how to attack and behave in a certain way.Yeah, I've been persona non grata in that tent since I started skewering their religion.Yup, it looks like the lefties are pushing you out of the BIG Tent....They just REFUSE to take these issues head on. Understandable. It gets tougher when I provide proof.
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.. and look at you .. all happy and stuff...
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Take your own kids camping, goofbutt.The Boy Scouts used to be a safe place for boys, but the left wingers ruined that.
