The real enemy

Do you really want to compare the Rush 'the drugster' and draft dodger to Ed Shultz, All-American quarterback and NAIA passing leader in 1977?

Although Rush's fat ass is famous...he was able to get out of serving in the during the Vietnam War when he got a medical deferment from a private doctor. Poor Rush had a dreaded pilonidal cyst on his posterior...translation: an ingrown hair follicle on his ass...

what branch of the military did Ed serve with?......and if not....why?....

Schultz didn't dodge the draft like Rush, he missed it. There was no conscription after 1973. The last draft lottery was for men born in 1953, but, men born in 1953 were not drafted due to abolition of the draft in 1973.

Schultz was born in 1954.

and if Ed was born earlier he would have dodged it using school as a way to do it.....dont try and make him sound Noble and Rush sound like an ass.....if Ed was older he would have done what he had to do to stay out of it.....like most of the guys back then......
 
Private doctor as compared to what? What other kinds of doctors is there...a VA doctor?

Having said that...upon more consideration to your stupid post.....I private Dr. cannot give a medical derferment. The person must go through the physical exam from a military doctor, at that time he is given a 1A or a 4F....just sayin

snopes.com: Rush Limbaugh's Pilonidal Cyst

When Rush Limbaugh first came of draft age he held a 2-S (college deferment) Selective Service System classification as a student at Southeast Missouri State University in 1969-70, but after he dropped out of college at the end of his first year he no longer qualified for a student deferment and was subject to being reclassified as 1-A (available immediately for military service) and drafted. Selective Service System records show that Limbaugh was reclassified as 1-Y (qualified for service only in time of [declared] war or national emergency) on 24 November 1970, which effectively ended his draft eligibility and ensured that he would not be called for service.

What was the basis of Limbaugh's 1-Y classification? The Selective Service System records still available indicate that the classification was not assigned on psychological or moral grounds, but because of a physical problem. And since there are no records indicating that Limbaugh was ever examined by a physician at an Armed Forces Entrance Examining Station (i.e., he never underwent a pre-induction physical), the 1-Y classification was almost certainly assigned based on a report Limbaugh had his own doctor prepare and submit to his draft board. (No implication that the report was fabricated is intended; the point is merely to note that Limbaugh's deferment was based upon an examination conducted by a private doctor, not one administered by an Armed Services physician.)

What was the physical problem that disqualified Rush Limbaugh from the draft? Limbaugh biographer Paul D. Colford notes that: As for Limbaugh himself, the broadcaster stated that he was not drafted during the Vietnam War because he had been classified 4-F after a physical found that he had an "inoperable pilonidal cyst" and "a football knee from high school." He added: "I made no effort to evade it or avoid it." (Technically, Limbaugh's classification during his primary year of draft eligibility was 1-Y, not 4-F; he was only reclassified as 4-F after the 1-Y classification was abolished on 10 December 1971.)

Which of the two stated medical reasons was the primary one behind Limbaugh's 1-Y classification is difficult to determine directly since individual medical files held by his draft board have long since been destroyed.

Him being just an average Joe back in the day...I question what Snopes is stating. A friend of mine had a file 2 inches thick from his private doctor....but still had to take the exam from a military doctor. There was no getting around that, at the end of the exam the doctor told him that women and children would go before he would....4F. That IS how it went down back in the 60's and early 70's. Just because they couldn't find any records doesn't mean he wasn't examined by a military doctor. Second....his medical files WERE destroyed.
 
I find it pathetic that anyone - no matter who they are (including the President) - would call other Americans 'enemies' because they happen to disagree politically. Those people - the ones who stir up 'hatred' by calling other Americans 'enemies'... they are the dangerous people. They are the enemy. They are the enemy of America and everything it stands for.

Were the people who killed 3,000 Americans on 9/11 the 'enemy'?

Then what would you call people who promote continuing a for profit private health care cartel that kills 45,000 Americans every year?

What would you call people who decimate environmental protections and promote dirty energy cartels that kill thousands of American every year?

???
A figment of leftist imagination.
 
I quote Stuttering LimpTard to make DittoTards choke on his words. There's no way a sane person can say I agree with the pathological liar from the way I use his quotes against him.

im not saying you agree with him......but for someone to scan this fuckers quotes as often as you do......your a type of "Ditto Head" Ed.......:eusa_eh:
Only by your revisionist definition of a DittoTard since by definition DittoTards agree with your MessiahRushie.

I quote Stuttering LimpTard for 2 reasons, one) his transcripts are readily available on line, and two) CON$ habitually claim that people who are making fools of themselves are not CON$, but there is no denying LimpTard is a CON$ervative.

if you say so Ed.....but i think he is much more YOUR go too guy than mine Ed....im sure many here,seeing so many quotes from him by you....will agree....your a type of Ditto Head Ed....
 
And the "we" clearly refers to Latinos, just as I said.

And, clearly, you feel that Obama was right to call Republicans the enemy of Latinos. Charming. Seriously.

Fucking idiot.
There is no denying that the GOP are the enemy of Latinos.

No moron, there is no denying that the GOP is the enemy of illegal immigration. (actually there is, but at least they are pretending to be against it right now)
 
I find it pathetic that anyone - no matter who they are (including the President) - would call other Americans 'enemies' because they happen to disagree politically. Those people - the ones who stir up 'hatred' by calling other Americans 'enemies'... they are the dangerous people. They are the enemy. They are the enemy of America and everything it stands for.

I agree with you most of the time, but on this issue I must disagree. When you have elected offical creating new laws that will creat new criminals, or creating new welfare programs or raising taxes on those who acually create jobs, or Judges who legislate from the bench, or twist the meaning of a right protected by the Constitution, those people do more harm than if someone had attacked us using their military. If one day freedom of speech is no longer allowed would you view the elected offical as a friendly or an enemy?
 
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Well, McConnell has made it clear to all. The GOP is the enemy of the working and middle class. Anything that we have gained since 1900, they wish to reverse. From unions to Social Security and Medicare, their goald is to terminate the gains made by the majority of American Citizens.

We see what has happened in Wisconsin, now we are seeing the GOP's true goals in the upcoming battle over the debt ceiling. The GOP cares absolutely nothing about the average American, and regards them simply as useful idiots, or fodder to be used in empire building.

They would gut the sytems that protect the seniors in this nation, and take us back to the days when surviving to old age meant poverty for the vast majority that did that. Their goal is for older citizens to die as quickly as possible when then can no longer earn a profit for the corperations. Reducing access to medical care and maintenance pharmceuticals is a very good way to do that.

Time to give all them a permenant vacation. We cannot afford the toadies of the corperations in power any longer.

Ok, so then the alternative is the toadies of Unions, Trial Lawyers, and Environmental Wackos is our only alternative?

Funny you said we can not afford Republicans in Power any more, when they have not been in power for some time now, and IMO we certainly can not afford the Far left of the Democrat Party in Power any longer. Either!

So now they are not in power. So then everyone who points back to Nov 10 are fools?

may 2011 - 3.7 trillion dollar budget is not enuff for obama to run his govt

2008 obama said we had to pass tarp fast or u.s. would crash - as of 2011 obama still has not spent it - and he wants more
 
I find it pathetic that anyone - no matter who they are (including the President) - would call other Americans 'enemies' because they happen to disagree politically. Those people - the ones who stir up 'hatred' by calling other Americans 'enemies'... they are the dangerous people. They are the enemy. They are the enemy of America and everything it stands for.

Were the people who killed 3,000 Americans on 9/11 the 'enemy'?

Then what would you call people who promote continuing a for profit private health care cartel that kills 45,000 Americans every year?

What would you call people who decimate environmental protections and promote dirty energy cartels that kill thousands of American every year?

???
A figment of leftist imagination.

It is the job of thinking people not to be on the side of the executioners.
Albert Camus


Study links 45000 U.S. deaths to lack of insurance

Nearly 45,000 people die in the United States each year -- one every 12 minutes -- in large part because they lack health insurance and can not get good care, Harvard Medical School researchers found in an analysis

A study published online today estimates nearly 45,000 annual deaths are associated with lack of health insurance. That figure is about two and a half times higher than an estimate from the Institute of Medicine (IOM) in 2002.

The new study, “Health Insurance and Mortality in U.S. Adults,” appears in today’s online edition of the American Journal of Public Health.

The Harvard-based researchers found that uninsured, working-age Americans have a 40 percent higher risk of death than their privately insured counterparts, up from a 25 percent excess death rate found in 1993.

Lead author Dr. Andrew Wilper, who worked at Harvard Medical School when the study was done and who now teaches at the University of Washington Medical School, said, “The uninsured have a higher risk of death when compared to the privately insured, even after taking into account socioeconomics, health behaviors and baseline health. We doctors have many new ways to prevent deaths from hypertension, diabetes and heart disease — but only if patients can get into our offices and afford their medications.”

The study, which analyzed data from national surveys carried out by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), assessed death rates after taking education, income and many other factors including smoking, drinking and obesity into account. It estimated that lack of health insurance causes 44,789 excess deaths annually.

Previous estimates from the IOM and others had put that figure near 18,000. The methods used in the current study were similar to those employed by the IOM in 2002, which in turn were based on a pioneering 1993 study of health insurance and mortality.

Deaths associated with lack of health insurance now exceed those caused by many common killers such as kidney disease.

New study finds 45,000 deaths annually linked to lack of health coverage | Harvard Gazette

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Toxic Air: Time to Clean Up Coal-fired Power Plants

Hazards revealed

The Lung Association’s report reveals the real public health threat from coal-fired power plants.

Coal-fired power plants that sell electricity to the grid produce more hazardous air pollution in the U.S. than any other industrial pollution sources.
More than 400 coal-fired power plants located in 46 states across the country release more that 386,000 tons of hazardous air pollutants into the atmosphere each year.
Particle pollution from power plants is estimated to kill approximately 13,000 people a year.

“Power plant pollution kills people,” said Charles D. Connor, President and CEO of the American Lung Association. “It threatens the brains and nervous system of children. It can cause cancer, heart attacks and strokes.

“It’s time that we end the ‘toxic loophole’ that has allowed coal-burning power plants to operate without any federal limits on emissions of mercury, arsenic, dioxin, acid gases such as hydrogen chloride and other dangerous pollutants,” said Charles D. Connor, president and CEO of the American Lung Association.

“People living closest to these plants, especially children, seniors, pregnant women and those with chronic disease face the greatest risk, but it doesn’t stop there. Pollution from coal-fired power plants takes flight and travels far into other states—threatening public health.”

Toxic Air: Time to Clean Up Coal-fired Power Plants - American Lung Association
 
Were the people who killed 3,000 Americans on 9/11 the 'enemy'?

Then what would you call people who promote continuing a for profit private health care cartel that kills 45,000 Americans every year?

What would you call people who decimate environmental protections and promote dirty energy cartels that kill thousands of American every year?

???
A figment of leftist imagination.

It is the job of thinking people not to be on the side of the executioners.
Albert Camus


Study links 45000 U.S. deaths to lack of insurance

Nearly 45,000 people die in the United States each year -- one every 12 minutes -- in large part because they lack health insurance and can not get good care, Harvard Medical School researchers found in an analysis

A study published online today estimates nearly 45,000 annual deaths are associated with lack of health insurance. That figure is about two and a half times higher than an estimate from the Institute of Medicine (IOM) in 2002.

The new study, “Health Insurance and Mortality in U.S. Adults,” appears in today’s online edition of the American Journal of Public Health.

The Harvard-based researchers found that uninsured, working-age Americans have a 40 percent higher risk of death than their privately insured counterparts, up from a 25 percent excess death rate found in 1993.

Lead author Dr. Andrew Wilper, who worked at Harvard Medical School when the study was done and who now teaches at the University of Washington Medical School, said, “The uninsured have a higher risk of death when compared to the privately insured, even after taking into account socioeconomics, health behaviors and baseline health. We doctors have many new ways to prevent deaths from hypertension, diabetes and heart disease — but only if patients can get into our offices and afford their medications.”

The study, which analyzed data from national surveys carried out by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), assessed death rates after taking education, income and many other factors including smoking, drinking and obesity into account. It estimated that lack of health insurance causes 44,789 excess deaths annually.

Previous estimates from the IOM and others had put that figure near 18,000. The methods used in the current study were similar to those employed by the IOM in 2002, which in turn were based on a pioneering 1993 study of health insurance and mortality.

Deaths associated with lack of health insurance now exceed those caused by many common killers such as kidney disease.

New study finds 45,000 deaths annually linked to lack of health coverage | Harvard Gazette

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Toxic Air: Time to Clean Up Coal-fired Power Plants

Hazards revealed

The Lung Association’s report reveals the real public health threat from coal-fired power plants.

Coal-fired power plants that sell electricity to the grid produce more hazardous air pollution in the U.S. than any other industrial pollution sources.
More than 400 coal-fired power plants located in 46 states across the country release more that 386,000 tons of hazardous air pollutants into the atmosphere each year.
Particle pollution from power plants is estimated to kill approximately 13,000 people a year.

“Power plant pollution kills people,” said Charles D. Connor, President and CEO of the American Lung Association. “It threatens the brains and nervous system of children. It can cause cancer, heart attacks and strokes.

“It’s time that we end the ‘toxic loophole’ that has allowed coal-burning power plants to operate without any federal limits on emissions of mercury, arsenic, dioxin, acid gases such as hydrogen chloride and other dangerous pollutants,” said Charles D. Connor, president and CEO of the American Lung Association.

“People living closest to these plants, especially children, seniors, pregnant women and those with chronic disease face the greatest risk, but it doesn’t stop there. Pollution from coal-fired power plants takes flight and travels far into other states—threatening public health.”

Toxic Air: Time to Clean Up Coal-fired Power Plants - American Lung Association
And you think government-run healthcare is going to be different...how, exactly?
 
what branch of the military did Ed serve with?......and if not....why?....

Schultz didn't dodge the draft like Rush, he missed it. There was no conscription after 1973. The last draft lottery was for men born in 1953, but, men born in 1953 were not drafted due to abolition of the draft in 1973.

Schultz was born in 1954.

and if Ed was born earlier he would have dodged it using school as a way to do it.....dont try and make him sound Noble and Rush sound like an ass.....if Ed was older he would have done what he had to do to stay out of it.....like most of the guys back then......

You could be right, but we don't know, and we don't really have any reason to question what Ed Schultz's intentions would have been. He went to college on a scholarship, so he probably would have been able to get a deferment. Rush had a college deferment until he became a college dropout.

But now that you have opened the door to speculating about a person's intentions, there is another issue from Rush's past that raises questions.

What was Rush doing with a bottle of Viagra in his bag at Palm Beach International Airport with the prescription in someone else's name? Limbaugh was returning from a vacation in the Dominican Republic, a known haven for sweaty fat white men paying to have sex with underage prostitutes.
 
Well, McConnell has made it clear to all. The GOP is the enemy of the working and middle class. Anything that we have gained since 1900, they wish to reverse. From unions to Social Security and Medicare, their goald is to terminate the gains made by the majority of American Citizens.

We see what has happened in Wisconsin, now we are seeing the GOP's true goals in the upcoming battle over the debt ceiling. The GOP cares absolutely nothing about the average American, and regards them simply as useful idiots, or fodder to be used in empire building.

They would gut the sytems that protect the seniors in this nation, and take us back to the days when surviving to old age meant poverty for the vast majority that did that. Their goal is for older citizens to die as quickly as possible when then can no longer earn a profit for the corperations. Reducing access to medical care and maintenance pharmceuticals is a very good way to do that.

Time to give all them a permenant vacation. We cannot afford the toadies of the corperations in power any longer.

communist demokrats r communists - republicans r useless = welcome to amerika
 
And the "we" clearly refers to Latinos, just as I said.

And, clearly, you feel that Obama was right to call Republicans the enemy of Latinos. Charming. Seriously.

Fucking idiot.
There is no denying that the GOP are the enemy of Latinos.

Fucking dishonest little shit.

Tell me something, exactly what does the 'cynic' part of your username come from. Because it seems to me, there ain't nothing cynical about you... you're an unthinking partisan hack, cynicism takes intellect and I've seen absolutely none from you. Ever. Everything about you is dishonest, from your username to your posts, to your lack of individual thought.
 
Schultz didn't dodge the draft like Rush, he missed it. There was no conscription after 1973. The last draft lottery was for men born in 1953, but, men born in 1953 were not drafted due to abolition of the draft in 1973.

Schultz was born in 1954.

and if Ed was born earlier he would have dodged it using school as a way to do it.....dont try and make him sound Noble and Rush sound like an ass.....if Ed was older he would have done what he had to do to stay out of it.....like most of the guys back then......

You could be right, but we don't know, and we don't really have any reason to question what Ed Schultz's intentions would have been. He went to college on a scholarship, so he probably would have been able to get a deferment. Rush had a college deferment until he became a college dropout.

But now that you have opened the door to speculating about a person's intentions, there is another issue from Rush's past that raises questions.

What was Rush doing with a bottle of Viagra in his bag at Palm Beach International Airport with the prescription in someone else's name? Limbaugh was returning from a vacation in the Dominican Republic, a known haven for sweaty fat white men paying to have sex with underage prostitutes.

You seem to be well acquainted with what goes on in the Dominican Republic. Care to elaborate?

Idiot.

:lol::lol:
 
A figment of leftist imagination.

It is the job of thinking people not to be on the side of the executioners.
Albert Camus


Study links 45000 U.S. deaths to lack of insurance

Nearly 45,000 people die in the United States each year -- one every 12 minutes -- in large part because they lack health insurance and can not get good care, Harvard Medical School researchers found in an analysis

A study published online today estimates nearly 45,000 annual deaths are associated with lack of health insurance. That figure is about two and a half times higher than an estimate from the Institute of Medicine (IOM) in 2002.

The new study, “Health Insurance and Mortality in U.S. Adults,” appears in today’s online edition of the American Journal of Public Health.

The Harvard-based researchers found that uninsured, working-age Americans have a 40 percent higher risk of death than their privately insured counterparts, up from a 25 percent excess death rate found in 1993.

Lead author Dr. Andrew Wilper, who worked at Harvard Medical School when the study was done and who now teaches at the University of Washington Medical School, said, “The uninsured have a higher risk of death when compared to the privately insured, even after taking into account socioeconomics, health behaviors and baseline health. We doctors have many new ways to prevent deaths from hypertension, diabetes and heart disease — but only if patients can get into our offices and afford their medications.”

The study, which analyzed data from national surveys carried out by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), assessed death rates after taking education, income and many other factors including smoking, drinking and obesity into account. It estimated that lack of health insurance causes 44,789 excess deaths annually.

Previous estimates from the IOM and others had put that figure near 18,000. The methods used in the current study were similar to those employed by the IOM in 2002, which in turn were based on a pioneering 1993 study of health insurance and mortality.

Deaths associated with lack of health insurance now exceed those caused by many common killers such as kidney disease.

New study finds 45,000 deaths annually linked to lack of health coverage | Harvard Gazette

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Toxic Air: Time to Clean Up Coal-fired Power Plants

Hazards revealed

The Lung Association’s report reveals the real public health threat from coal-fired power plants.

Coal-fired power plants that sell electricity to the grid produce more hazardous air pollution in the U.S. than any other industrial pollution sources.
More than 400 coal-fired power plants located in 46 states across the country release more that 386,000 tons of hazardous air pollutants into the atmosphere each year.
Particle pollution from power plants is estimated to kill approximately 13,000 people a year.

“Power plant pollution kills people,” said Charles D. Connor, President and CEO of the American Lung Association. “It threatens the brains and nervous system of children. It can cause cancer, heart attacks and strokes.

“It’s time that we end the ‘toxic loophole’ that has allowed coal-burning power plants to operate without any federal limits on emissions of mercury, arsenic, dioxin, acid gases such as hydrogen chloride and other dangerous pollutants,” said Charles D. Connor, president and CEO of the American Lung Association.

“People living closest to these plants, especially children, seniors, pregnant women and those with chronic disease face the greatest risk, but it doesn’t stop there. Pollution from coal-fired power plants takes flight and travels far into other states—threatening public health.”

Toxic Air: Time to Clean Up Coal-fired Power Plants - American Lung Association
And you think government-run healthcare is going to be different...how, exactly?

insurance_coverage_in_2019_no_reform%282%29.png


The graph atop this post shows the predicted insurance situation (numbers come from this CBO report) for non-elderly Americans if health-care reform didn't pass. It's not a pretty graph, but it'll do the trick. You're seeing 162 million people in the employer market, 54 million uninsured, 35 million people on Medicaid or the Children's Health Insurance Program, and 30 million people in the non-group/other market (this contains not just the individual market but small public plans). To put that slightly differently: No insurance is predicted to be the second-most common arrangement. Compare that to the post-reform prediction:

insurance_coverage_in_2019_with_reform%283%29.png


Here you're seeing 159 million Americans on the employer market, 44 million on Medicaid or the Children's Health Insurance Program, 25 million on the non-group/other market, 24 million in the exchanges, and 22 million left uninsured. The uninsured category has gone from the second largest to the absolute smallest. And though there's no public option, there are a lot more people eligible for public programs. But all in all, only 40 million Americans are in a different insurance situation than would otherwise have been the case. Three-quarters of them would've been otherwise uninsured, and a few more would've been on the individual markets or getting insurance through a small business who's now using the exchange.

But some of you have asked why there's an uninsured category at all. There are a couple of reasons. About a third of the remaining uninsured are illegal immigrants, who are ineligible for coverage through the program. Then there are some folks who have incomes below the individual mandate threshold. Under the terms of the individual mandate, if coverage would cost more than 8 percent of their monthly income, they can skip it. Other people will decide to pay the individual mandate's $750 penalty rather than purchase insurance. Still others will be eligible for public programs such as Medicaid but won't sign up.

So the population of the uninsured will be far reduced, and primarily composed of illegal immigrants, the few people who can't afford their insurance and aren't getting subsidies to help them purchase it, and people who have decided to pay the penalty rather than purchase insurance.

Washinton Post
 
It is the job of thinking people not to be on the side of the executioners.
Albert Camus


Study links 45000 U.S. deaths to lack of insurance

Nearly 45,000 people die in the United States each year -- one every 12 minutes -- in large part because they lack health insurance and can not get good care, Harvard Medical School researchers found in an analysis

A study published online today estimates nearly 45,000 annual deaths are associated with lack of health insurance. That figure is about two and a half times higher than an estimate from the Institute of Medicine (IOM) in 2002.

The new study, “Health Insurance and Mortality in U.S. Adults,” appears in today’s online edition of the American Journal of Public Health.

The Harvard-based researchers found that uninsured, working-age Americans have a 40 percent higher risk of death than their privately insured counterparts, up from a 25 percent excess death rate found in 1993.

Lead author Dr. Andrew Wilper, who worked at Harvard Medical School when the study was done and who now teaches at the University of Washington Medical School, said, “The uninsured have a higher risk of death when compared to the privately insured, even after taking into account socioeconomics, health behaviors and baseline health. We doctors have many new ways to prevent deaths from hypertension, diabetes and heart disease — but only if patients can get into our offices and afford their medications.”

The study, which analyzed data from national surveys carried out by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), assessed death rates after taking education, income and many other factors including smoking, drinking and obesity into account. It estimated that lack of health insurance causes 44,789 excess deaths annually.

Previous estimates from the IOM and others had put that figure near 18,000. The methods used in the current study were similar to those employed by the IOM in 2002, which in turn were based on a pioneering 1993 study of health insurance and mortality.

Deaths associated with lack of health insurance now exceed those caused by many common killers such as kidney disease.

New study finds 45,000 deaths annually linked to lack of health coverage | Harvard Gazette

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Toxic Air: Time to Clean Up Coal-fired Power Plants

Hazards revealed

The Lung Association’s report reveals the real public health threat from coal-fired power plants.

Coal-fired power plants that sell electricity to the grid produce more hazardous air pollution in the U.S. than any other industrial pollution sources.
More than 400 coal-fired power plants located in 46 states across the country release more that 386,000 tons of hazardous air pollutants into the atmosphere each year.
Particle pollution from power plants is estimated to kill approximately 13,000 people a year.

“Power plant pollution kills people,” said Charles D. Connor, President and CEO of the American Lung Association. “It threatens the brains and nervous system of children. It can cause cancer, heart attacks and strokes.

“It’s time that we end the ‘toxic loophole’ that has allowed coal-burning power plants to operate without any federal limits on emissions of mercury, arsenic, dioxin, acid gases such as hydrogen chloride and other dangerous pollutants,” said Charles D. Connor, president and CEO of the American Lung Association.

“People living closest to these plants, especially children, seniors, pregnant women and those with chronic disease face the greatest risk, but it doesn’t stop there. Pollution from coal-fired power plants takes flight and travels far into other states—threatening public health.”

Toxic Air: Time to Clean Up Coal-fired Power Plants - American Lung Association
And you think government-run healthcare is going to be different...how, exactly?

insurance_coverage_in_2019_no_reform%282%29.png


The graph atop this post shows the predicted insurance situation (numbers come from this CBO report) for non-elderly Americans if health-care reform didn't pass. It's not a pretty graph, but it'll do the trick. You're seeing 162 million people in the employer market, 54 million uninsured, 35 million people on Medicaid or the Children's Health Insurance Program, and 30 million people in the non-group/other market (this contains not just the individual market but small public plans). To put that slightly differently: No insurance is predicted to be the second-most common arrangement. Compare that to the post-reform prediction:

insurance_coverage_in_2019_with_reform%283%29.png


Here you're seeing 159 million Americans on the employer market, 44 million on Medicaid or the Children's Health Insurance Program, 25 million on the non-group/other market, 24 million in the exchanges, and 22 million left uninsured. The uninsured category has gone from the second largest to the absolute smallest. And though there's no public option, there are a lot more people eligible for public programs. But all in all, only 40 million Americans are in a different insurance situation than would otherwise have been the case. Three-quarters of them would've been otherwise uninsured, and a few more would've been on the individual markets or getting insurance through a small business who's now using the exchange.

But some of you have asked why there's an uninsured category at all. There are a couple of reasons. About a third of the remaining uninsured are illegal immigrants, who are ineligible for coverage through the program. Then there are some folks who have incomes below the individual mandate threshold. Under the terms of the individual mandate, if coverage would cost more than 8 percent of their monthly income, they can skip it. Other people will decide to pay the individual mandate's $750 penalty rather than purchase insurance. Still others will be eligible for public programs such as Medicaid but won't sign up.

So the population of the uninsured will be far reduced, and primarily composed of illegal immigrants, the few people who can't afford their insurance and aren't getting subsidies to help them purchase it, and people who have decided to pay the penalty rather than purchase insurance.

Washinton Post
The CBO?

You realize they don't do any independent research, right? They use only the numbers they're provided...in this case, they used only the numbers they were provided by Democrats, who have an agenda and a reason to exaggerate.

Got anything credible? Didn't think so.
 
You know, I have never understood why the GOP which often touts it horn about individual liberty never sees how anti-individualistic it is: Constant and endless wars on individuals and nations seeking individuality, peace, progress and prosperity are all initiated by so-called "conservatives."

And when it comes to snitching on people to the law, none is as fast as republicans (who ironically allege they hate big government)! Just amazing!
 
You know, I have never understood why the GOP which often touts it horn about individual liberty never sees how anti-individualistic it is: Constant and endless wars on individuals and nations seeking individuality, peace, progress and prosperity are all initiated by so-called "conservatives."
"...individuality, peace, progress and prosperity..." -- is that what you kids are calling Communism and terrorism these days?
And when it comes to snitching on people to the law, none is as fast as republicans (who ironically allege they hate big government)! Just amazing!

Yeah, that explains why Bush set up [email protected] so people could report the lies being told about the War on Terror.

Oh, wait...
 

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