The problems with the Boeing 737 Max continue

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

Is this symptomatic of a more general decline in standards from those forming part of the industrial and military complex or associated with it ?

Look at USeLess weapons used in Ukraine .
Bradleys , Abram Tanks , Patriot systems , HIMARS .
With F16s reckoned a certainty to maintain the failure trend by experts, if they ever start to fly in the war zone

From what I've read and what has been disclosed in the Netflix documentary "Downfall: The Case Against Boeing", Boeing's leadership (not it's diversity hires) made a conscious decision to cut corners at the expensive of passenger safety when instead of creating a new aircraft in its race to get to market before its competitor Airbus it instead took it's bread & butter, the industry workhorse, the 737 and modified it to create the 737 MAX.

While the concept of utilizing something that was already in production instead of completely starting from scratch may be acceptable, it's how they attempted to create the "new aircraft" that caused the issue. Because they wanted the MAX to have longer range and accommodate more passengers, they put larger engines on the wings but had to higher and further forward which caused a problem with the aircraft's CG (center of gravity).

The Boeing 737 MAX 8 has larger and heavier engines than its predecessor, the 737 NG. These engines are mounted higher and further forward on the wings, which changes the center of gravity of the aircraft 123. The new engines generate more lift, which causes the nose of the plane to pitch up during takeoff 12. To counteract this, Boeing added a new software system called the Maneuvering Characteristics Augmentation System (MCAS) to the 737 MAX 8 1. However, the MCAS system was found to be faulty and was responsible for two fatal crashes in 2018 and 2019 4. The MCAS system was designed to automatically push the nose of the plane down if it detected that the plane was pitching up too much 1. However, in both crashes, the MCAS system was triggered by faulty sensors and pushed the nose of the plane down repeatedly, causing the planes to crash.​

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[Jim H - VA USA]

Diversity and Inclusion

www.boeing.com

 

[Mac-7]

Boeing is one of the last great American manufacturing companies. And while the planes are assembled in the U.S., most of their parts come from overseas.

So we may blame the American workers for how they put it together or the overseas manufacturer. Stay tuned.

Overseas being China?

 

[sealybobo]

Overseas being China?

I work with Boeing manufacturing facilities in Mexico, Cali, Alabama, MO, MT, OR, PA and Seattle Washington.

Do you know what you are talking about? No you do not. Run along.

 

[Flash]

Back when Gay Barry was President the dufus at Boeing committed the company to DEI.

Now their airplanes are literally falling apart.

Just wait until all these goddamn DEI pilots that the airlines are committed to hire get into the cockpit. You will be fucked if you fly.

 

[Mac-7]

I work with Boeing manufacturing facilities in Mexico, Cali, Alabama, MO, MT, OR, PA and Seattle Washington.

Do you know what you are talking about? No you do not. Run along.

If I had all the answers I would not have used the question mark

But since you do claim to know it all precisely what percentage is made in china?

 

[0311]

Back when Gay Barry was President the dufus at Boeing committed the company to DEI.

Now their airplanes are literally falling apart.

Just wait until all these goddamn DEI pilots that the airlines are committed to hire get into the cockpit. You will be fucked if you fly.

Just this morning there was a report of boeing aircraft having hydraulic problems and it had to return or re-route to another airport. Boeing used to one safety aircraft to fly on but those are long gone.

 

[22lcidw]

Just this morning there was a report of boeing aircraft having hydraulic problems and it had to return or re-route to another airport. Boeing used to one safety aircraft to fly on but those are long gone.

Send them out of business. Soon enough we will get Chinese designed and made passenger jets.

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

Back when Gay Barry was President the dufus at Boeing committed the company to DEI.

Now their airplanes are literally falling apart.

Just wait until all these goddamn DEI pilots that the airlines are committed to hire get into the cockpit. You will be fucked if you fly.

David Harris, the first African American pilot to fly a commercial airliner for a major U.S. carrier, died Saturday at the age of 89. American Airlines, where Harris was first hired in 1964, confirmed his passing.

“We are deeply saddened by the passing of Capt. David E. Harris, a trailblazer in aviation who became the first Black commercial airline pilot when he was hired by American Airlines in 1964. Capt. Harris opened the doors and inspired countless Black pilots to pursue their dreams to fly,” said American CEO Robert Isom in a statement. “We will honor his legacy by ensuring we continue to create access and opportunities for careers in aviation for those who otherwise might not know it’s possible.”

Prior to joining the airline industry, Harris served in the U.S. Air Force as a second lieutenant where he flew the B-47 Stratojet and B-52s. While a student at Ohio State University, he was rejected from the Air Force’s advanced ROTC (Reserve Officer Training Corps) program twice on racial grounds, according to NBC DFW.

After leaving the military in 1964, Harris joined American’s ranks after being denied by several other airlines. He flew the Boeing 747, Boeing 727, Boeing 767, Airbus A300, Douglas DC-6, BAC One-Eleven, and the McDonnell Douglas MD-11 during his tenure at the airline.

Harris flew for 30 years at American before his retirement in 1994 as a captain.
Harris also achieved the distinction of becoming the first African American captain for a major U.S. commercial airline. No cause of death has been made public.

Pioneering Aviator Captain David Harris Dies at 89​

by |Mar 11, 2024
FLYING Magazine

Editor’s Note: This article first appeared on AirlineGeeks.com.

 

[Flash]

David Harris, the first African American pilot to fly a commercial airliner for a major U.S. carrier, died Saturday at the age of 89. American Airlines, where Harris was first hired in 1964, confirmed his passing.

“We are deeply saddened by the passing of Capt. David E. Harris, a trailblazer in aviation who became the first Black commercial airline pilot when he was hired by American Airlines in 1964. Capt. Harris opened the doors and inspired countless Black pilots to pursue their dreams to fly,” said American CEO Robert Isom in a statement. “We will honor his legacy by ensuring we continue to create access and opportunities for careers in aviation for those who otherwise might not know it’s possible.”

Prior to joining the airline industry, Harris served in the U.S. Air Force as a second lieutenant where he flew the B-47 Stratojet and B-52s. While a student at Ohio State University, he was rejected from the Air Force’s advanced ROTC (Reserve Officer Training Corps) program twice on racial grounds, according to NBC DFW.

After leaving the military in 1964, Harris joined American’s ranks after being denied by several other airlines. He flew the Boeing 747, Boeing 727, Boeing 767, Airbus A300, Douglas DC-6, BAC One-Eleven, and the McDonnell Douglas MD-11 during his tenure at the airline.

Harris flew for 30 years at American before his retirement in 1994 as a captain.
Harris also achieved the distinction of becoming the first African American captain for a major U.S. commercial airline. No cause of death has been made public.

Pioneering Aviator Captain David Harris Dies at 89​

by |Mar 11, 2024
FLYING Magazine

Editor’s Note: This article first appeared on AirlineGeeks.com.

Just wait until all the Whites retire and we get a bunch of these dumbass DEI Negroes, Queers, Trannies and dingbats flying the airplanes. At the same time those kinds of idiots will be performing maintence on the aircraft. We haven't seen anything yet with doors and wheels coming off.

 

[Zebra]

again and again!

 

[PeterPilot]

From what I've read and what has been disclosed in the Netflix documentary "Downfall: The Case Against Boeing", Boeing's leadership (not it's diversity hires) made a conscious decision to cut corners at the expensive of passenger safety when instead of creating a new aircraft in its race to get to market before its competitor Airbus it instead took it's bread & butter, the industry workhorse, the 737 and modified it to create the 737 MAX.

While the concept of utilizing something that was already in production instead of completely starting from scratch may be acceptable, it's how they attempted to create the "new aircraft" that caused the issue. Because they wanted the MAX to have longer range and accommodate more passengers, they put larger engines on the wings but had to higher and further forward which caused a problem with the aircraft's CG (center of gravity).

The Boeing 737 MAX 8 has larger and heavier engines than its predecessor, the 737 NG. These engines are mounted higher and further forward on the wings, which changes the center of gravity of the aircraft 123. The new engines generate more lift, which causes the nose of the plane to pitch up during takeoff 12. To counteract this, Boeing added a new software system called the Maneuvering Characteristics Augmentation System (MCAS) to the 737 MAX 8 1. However, the MCAS system was found to be faulty and was responsible for two fatal crashes in 2018 and 2019 4. The MCAS system was designed to automatically push the nose of the plane down if it detected that the plane was pitching up too much 1. However, in both crashes, the MCAS system was triggered by faulty sensors and pushed the nose of the plane down repeatedly, causing the planes to crash.​

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I agree that Boeing cheated in getting the Max certified, and they cheated big time.

I spent 10 years working in aircraft production for 2 small airplane manufacturers, never have flown a Boeing. I learned alot about the FAA certification process as a production test pilot. No doubt in my mind that the Max was a large departure from the original 737 type certificate.

They cheated the system, and the chickens have now come home to roost.

 

[0311]

again and again!

Boeing used to the gold standard in airpane manufacturing. Now, if I see the Boeing name on any flight I book, I immediately find another flight or another carrier.

 

[luiza]

NOW( posted elsewhere yesterday )​

IT stinks​

Twice a coincidence . Three times a pattern .
Many times , a False flag

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Boeing 767 Cargo Plane Crash-Landed In Turkey​

WEDNESDAY, MAY 08, 2024 - 06:45 PM
Amid continuous and what seems like weekly turmoil at Boeing, which includes another whistleblower's death, new probes by the Federal Aviation Administration, and a series of mid-air mishaps with various Boeing planes, a 787 cargo plane in Turkey suffered a landing gear malfunction, resulting in the plane landing on its nose.
Daily Mail reports the Boeing 767 cargo plane took off from Paris' Charles de Gaulle airport earlier this morning and was headed to Istanbul when the pilot realized a malfunction.
Dramatic footage has been posted on X, showing the pilot landing on the main landing gear and keeping the nose of the plane up as long as possible because of the malfunctioning front landing gear.


See Zero Hedge now . Wednesday .

 

[luiza]

YOU ARE JOKING US ​

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TWO IN TWO DAYS .​

YOU COULD NOT MAKE IT UP

Boeing 737 Crashes After Failed Takeoff At African Airport​

THURSDAY, MAY 09, 2024 - 12:20 PM
Boeing's PR team must be highly frustrated or possibly even overwhelmed, as yet another Boeing plane has experienced a mishap in the last 24 hours.
Daily Mail reports that a Boeing 737, operated by Senegalese carrier Transair, crashed after a failed takeoff attempt, sending the plane skidding off the runway at Blaise Diagne International Airport in Senegal.

Zero Hedge for full article today

 

[Jarlaxle]

Old planes, with unknown maintenance history, flying in the third world. The TransAir 737 could easily be 40 years old.

 

[0311]

Old planes, with unknown maintenance history, flying in the third world. The TransAir 737 could easily be 40 years old.

I flew on 1944 Manufactured B-17 (Waist Gunner). Hot damn it nice. Cold as a witch's tit but sill fun. It was at an air-show San Diego a few years ago.

 

[SurferH2O]

I work for a company that used to provide highly advanced Project Controls to Boeing. They tossed us out. They went with a whole bunch of cheap Indian Labor and got what they paid for on the IT / Technology side. They also went with cheap Chinese labor.

In the wise words from what a poet once shared....

They not only produced everything late on their schedule, but also they failed in quality. You get what you pay for.